Hi, I discovered MMM's blog a couple of months ago and have been working my way through, but this is my first post. I'm all the way across the pond in London, where I live (on a boat to keep our costs down while we build our stash) with my wonderful wife who is a native of Seattle.
We still own her old house in Seattle, which has been rented out for the last four years that she has been over in the UK. We want to keep it as part of our asset portfolio, and take advantage of historic low mortgage rates to refinance it to a lower rate and free up some cash-flow so that it is cash generative instead of the very small negative cash-flow we have currently. The plan would be to refi to a lower 30 year fix to lock in current rates, and use the excess cash to overpay the mortgage while we are still accumulating assets over the next few years, leaving us with the option of cutting back to the regular payment when we stop working.
The difficulty we have is that the dynamic in our relationship is that normally I take the lead on finance stuff like this, partly because I enjoy it more than the wife does, and partly because I am qualified as a chartered accountant (equivalent of a CPA) which means I generally have a pretty good understanding of the issues. However I'm discovering that the mortgage market in the USA is a totally different place from the one over here - for example would you believe me if i told you that a 30 year fixed mortgage is absolutely unheard of, and that even a 5 year fix is considered very long? Most people have a 2-3 year fix, or even a mortgage which tracks the bank rate!
So my wife has spoken to a broker, who has quoted us a rate of 4.25 on a loan value of $170k, with 20% down. They have estimated closing costs at $4,136 which seems to be made up mostly of a 1.75% Fannie Investment Fee, plus various items like escrow fee, document fee and title insurance. We have to pay this ourselves, either in cash or by rolling it into the loan. This is all based on my wife's credit which is 798.
In addition there is a Broker's fee of 2% plus a $945 underwriting fee, which will apparently be paid directly by the lender.
I'm in a situation now where my wife is happy to go ahead with the broker, on the grounds that his job is to search the market for the best buy for us. However I have a pathological mistrust of anyone who gives advice based on commission, and would generally much rather shop around myself but don't know the market at all. I have no idea whether all these costs are normal, if this is a good deal, or whether we are being stiffed. I know the rate is higher than the residential rates I've seen advertised, but I'd expect to have a higher rate anyway for an investment property and looking on the web I have struggled to find price comparisons for investment.
So I figured I'd turn to the most money savvy people I know stateside for their thoughts, and here I am. I'd love to hear your thoughts in particular:
- How does the rate sound for an investment property?
- Do the fees and broker costs sound reasonable?
- If not can you recommend good places to check for a direct quote?
- Any other ideas I don't even know to ask for?
I'd really appreciate anything you great people can contribute
Thanks
Neil