Author Topic: Should I Sell or Rent this out?  (Read 2158 times)

JoJo

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Should I Sell or Rent this out?
« on: April 01, 2015, 12:46:09 PM »
Iím about 18 months from retirement so Iím starting to think about what I want to do with my condo, as there are some repairs and other things I need to do to prepare for sale or rental Ė and whether I sell or rent might impact the timing of repairs for tax purposes.  I plan on traveling & living abroad for awhile in my early retirement.  Also, selling it would mean I put it on the market in less than 15 months.

Facts about the unit:
* Bought for $550K, probably could sell for $360K (before agent costs & taxes) OUCH
* Paid off (no mortgage)
* Have $5K-10K in repairs/upgrades that need to be made before selling/renting
* About the building condition & HOA:  HOA has $275,000 in reserves on 20 units.  New roof & gutters in 2013.  But there are a number of things that need repair Ė new pavement, painting, possibly new siding or repairs, there is evidence of mold in a couple units but the cost/scope of this hasnít been bad (yet).  Management isnít great.
* Taxes + HOA fees are about $600 per month.

Current rents are around $2000 per month.  Since Iíll be abroad Iíll need to have management and the going rate for that is one month rent to find tenants or renew a lease plus 10% per month to collect rent and be ďon callĒ for maintenance issues.  Maintenance, dues, assessments, landlord insurance, and taxes would be on top of that - so I'm guessing the net would only be around $1000 per month.  Vacancies are fairly low if you price it right.


Reasons to sell:
* ratio of rent to sales price is not great (I understand from this forum that around 1% is ideal and this is about half of that)
* free up money for other stuff
* risk of special assessment
* less worry
* easier tax filing

Reasons to rent:
* unit has a storage unit that I could use for free while traveling
* unit is in a state with no income tax so Iíd like to keep the address
* fairly high probability that I might want to come back and live in this area for a few years (maybe after age 50 Ė the city has lots of activities for 50+).  Itís next to a nice lake for kayaking and city is very bike-able and walkable.  Hikes are less than 1 hour away.  The views & sunsets are amazing.
* no capital gains on the appreciation for quite some time as it is so far under what I paid for it (but I understand I might have to live in it for a few years to get this benefit)
* appreciation could be fairly high as itís one of the fastest growing populations in the country (Seattle area).  Condo development has kept the appreciation fairly low since the crash but there is limited room for more developments in the particular 4 mile radius.
* I have enough in non-retirement savings to live off of, coupled with rental income, that I won't need to access the $ in the home value for many years.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2015, 01:11:21 PM by JoJo »

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Re: Should I Sell or Rent this out?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2015, 02:14:08 PM »
No one has an opinion on this?  Open to opinions.  Anything huge I haven't included in my consideration?

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Re: Should I Sell or Rent this out?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2015, 02:35:57 PM »
It probably throws people to consider that it's paid off, that might be what has prevented responses.  This is also a somewhat lower volume subforum.

For me, being that far under the purchase price and no likelihood of returning to purchase price in the very near future, and with the volatility of HOA potential for special assessments, high HOA, and low rent in relation to the value, I would probably sell it and take the loss.  If you do so, it might be worth considering what you do to take advantage of that loss in 2015 given your upcoming retirement.  Perhaps do some extra Roth conversion if you are RE'ing?  Also possibly worth considering if it's worth carrying into next year when you are retired for the full year to capitalize on the loss then.
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Re: Should I Sell or Rent this out?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2015, 03:41:22 PM »
It probably throws people to consider that it's paid off, that might be what has prevented responses.  This is also a somewhat lower volume subforum.

For me, being that far under the purchase price and no likelihood of returning to purchase price in the very near future, and with the volatility of HOA potential for special assessments, high HOA, and low rent in relation to the value, I would probably sell it and take the loss.  If you do so, it might be worth considering what you do to take advantage of that loss in 2015 given your upcoming retirement.  Perhaps do some extra Roth conversion if you are RE'ing?  Also possibly worth considering if it's worth carrying into next year when you are retired for the full year to capitalize on the loss then.

I got the impression that I won't get any advantage (tax or otherwise) from taking the loss.  I thought that any loss below 250,000 for a single person is just ignored.  Am I wrong about that?

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Re: Should I Sell or Rent this out?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2015, 03:58:10 PM »
It probably throws people to consider that it's paid off, that might be what has prevented responses.  This is also a somewhat lower volume subforum.

For me, being that far under the purchase price and no likelihood of returning to purchase price in the very near future, and with the volatility of HOA potential for special assessments, high HOA, and low rent in relation to the value, I would probably sell it and take the loss.  If you do so, it might be worth considering what you do to take advantage of that loss in 2015 given your upcoming retirement.  Perhaps do some extra Roth conversion if you are RE'ing?  Also possibly worth considering if it's worth carrying into next year when you are retired for the full year to capitalize on the loss then.

I got the impression that I won't get any advantage (tax or otherwise) from taking the loss.  I thought that any loss below 250,000 for a single person is just ignored.  Am I wrong about that?

Yes, it seems that you're right.  I guess I had my head stuck in "rental property" mode.  Sorry about that!  I'd still probably sell, though, this seems like it would become a bit of an albatross for you.