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I'm currently on the edge of Milwaukee WI.  Big city with big city problems.  Mostly crime and taxes.  They're both continually going up.
I want to move a ways out of the city.   I want a large lot (by city standards - I don't know if small towns / rural are different).  Small town or rural would be nice, a farmstead could be ideal,  But I'm trying to keep an open mind.
Is there a name of this kind of realty that I can/should use to find a realtor and discuss with?
I googled 'rural realty' and got back acreage and farms...
Advance Thanks.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2023, 09:36:26 PM »
Most real estate listings are available online these days. If you prefer a realtor to search for you, drive to the area in question and write down the names and numbers on for sale signs and call them.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2023, 02:53:33 AM »
I agree that it’s better to first narrow down what area you want to purchase in, then find a local realtor that specializes in selling in that area. Local realtors will know stuff that out-of-town ones won’t. Like whether the area is in a snow belt, or whether sump pumps are standard in basements, or local ordinances, etc.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2023, 05:01:20 AM »
Realtors are local.

You will want to narrow down the location you want first, and trust me, there are A LOT of factors you will want to consider beyond what the property is like before deciding to buy in a rural community.

Have you ever lived in a rural community?

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2023, 10:37:58 AM »
I love Milwaukee and lived there many years ago. I would find a realtor that comes highly recommended by someone you know and let that person help you find the right property.

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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2023, 11:53:29 AM »
I've heard of lots of stories of people with Green Acres dreams who find that rural living isn't what they're actually looking for.  There's a LOT of work involved in maintaining even a small amount of land.

Rather than say "I want a big lot," you may find it more effective to say "I want to do X, Y, and Z on my property," and then figure out what kind of property would be the most efficient* way to achieve that goal.  It's easy to jump to the conclusion that a large lot will meet your needs, but it's important to strip back all the assumptions and start with a basis of what you want to do.

*efficient means not only the amount of money involved, but also the amount of your time that will be required for it.  If you're looking to grow fruit trees or a large garden, figure out how much land you'd need for that (hint: probably not as much as you think).  If you want a sizeable shop for working on cars, figure out how much land you'd need for that (again, it's not much!).

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2023, 06:14:53 AM »
I've heard of lots of stories of people with Green Acres dreams who find that rural living isn't what they're actually looking for.  There's a LOT of work involved in maintaining even a small amount of land.

Rather than say "I want a big lot," you may find it more effective to say "I want to do X, Y, and Z on my property," and then figure out what kind of property would be the most efficient* way to achieve that goal.  It's easy to jump to the conclusion that a large lot will meet your needs, but it's important to strip back all the assumptions and start with a basis of what you want to do.

*efficient means not only the amount of money involved, but also the amount of your time that will be required for it.  If you're looking to grow fruit trees or a large garden, figure out how much land you'd need for that (hint: probably not as much as you think).  If you want a sizeable shop for working on cars, figure out how much land you'd need for that (again, it's not much!).

And an astronomical amount of work to maintain a farm.

What is it with Americans and this dream of retiring on an acreage/farmstead??

My parents are on a very small acreage (no farm, just a huge garden) right now and I've been trying to get them to sell for ages, because even in their 60s it was just too much work.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2023, 03:43:34 PM »
And an astronomical amount of work to maintain a farm.

What is it with Americans and this dream of retiring on an acreage/farmstead??

My parents are on a very small acreage (no farm, just a huge garden) right now and I've been trying to get them to sell for ages, because even in their 60s it was just too much work.
It's mostly a fantasy. Blame TV, movies, and the general urge to "get away from it all."

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2023, 03:53:58 PM »
And an astronomical amount of work to maintain a farm.

What is it with Americans and this dream of retiring on an acreage/farmstead??

My parents are on a very small acreage (no farm, just a huge garden) right now and I've been trying to get them to sell for ages, because even in their 60s it was just too much work.
It's mostly a fantasy. Blame TV, movies, and the general urge to "get away from it all."

As someone who ran away to the edge of the earth to "get away from it all," I do get that urge, but not once did I feel the need to slave away on a farm/acreage to do it.

There's some American thing about owning land...

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2023, 04:09:33 PM »
And an astronomical amount of work to maintain a farm.

What is it with Americans and this dream of retiring on an acreage/farmstead??

My parents are on a very small acreage (no farm, just a huge garden) right now and I've been trying to get them to sell for ages, because even in their 60s it was just too much work.
It's mostly a fantasy. Blame TV, movies, and the general urge to "get away from it all."

As someone who ran away to the edge of the earth to "get away from it all," I do get that urge, but not once did I feel the need to slave away on a farm/acreage to do it.

There's some American thing about owning land...
Forty acres and a mule?

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2023, 04:31:23 PM »
And an astronomical amount of work to maintain a farm.

What is it with Americans and this dream of retiring on an acreage/farmstead??

My parents are on a very small acreage (no farm, just a huge garden) right now and I've been trying to get them to sell for ages, because even in their 60s it was just too much work.
It's mostly a fantasy. Blame TV, movies, and the general urge to "get away from it all."

As someone who ran away to the edge of the earth to "get away from it all," I do get that urge, but not once did I feel the need to slave away on a farm/acreage to do it.

There's some American thing about owning land...
Forty acres and a mule?

I don't get your obscure American references ;P

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2023, 06:32:32 PM »
And an astronomical amount of work to maintain a farm.

What is it with Americans and this dream of retiring on an acreage/farmstead??

My parents are on a very small acreage (no farm, just a huge garden) right now and I've been trying to get them to sell for ages, because even in their 60s it was just too much work.
It's mostly a fantasy. Blame TV, movies, and the general urge to "get away from it all."

As someone who ran away to the edge of the earth to "get away from it all," I do get that urge, but not once did I feel the need to slave away on a farm/acreage to do it.

There's some American thing about owning land...
Forty acres and a mule?

I don't get your obscure American references ;P
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/01/12/376781165/the-story-behind-40-acres-and-a-mule#:~:text=William%20T.,40%20acres%20and%20a%20mule.%22

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2023, 06:42:25 PM »
And an astronomical amount of work to maintain a farm.

What is it with Americans and this dream of retiring on an acreage/farmstead??

My parents are on a very small acreage (no farm, just a huge garden) right now and I've been trying to get them to sell for ages, because even in their 60s it was just too much work.
It's mostly a fantasy. Blame TV, movies, and the general urge to "get away from it all."

As someone who ran away to the edge of the earth to "get away from it all," I do get that urge, but not once did I feel the need to slave away on a farm/acreage to do it.

There's some American thing about owning land...
Forty acres and a mule?

I don't get your obscure American references ;P
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/01/12/376781165/the-story-behind-40-acres-and-a-mule#:~:text=William%20T.,40%20acres%20and%20a%20mule.%22

Dammit! You didn't get my joke, it was a reference to the "mean" thread. And it was really funny.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2023, 06:45:41 PM »
And an astronomical amount of work to maintain a farm.

What is it with Americans and this dream of retiring on an acreage/farmstead??

My parents are on a very small acreage (no farm, just a huge garden) right now and I've been trying to get them to sell for ages, because even in their 60s it was just too much work.
It's mostly a fantasy. Blame TV, movies, and the general urge to "get away from it all."

As someone who ran away to the edge of the earth to "get away from it all," I do get that urge, but not once did I feel the need to slave away on a farm/acreage to do it.

There's some American thing about owning land...
Forty acres and a mule?

I don't get your obscure American references ;P
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/01/12/376781165/the-story-behind-40-acres-and-a-mule#:~:text=William%20T.,40%20acres%20and%20a%20mule.%22

Dammit! You didn't get my joke, it was a reference to the "mean" thread. And it was really funny.
You are always funny, and sparingly [that's autocarrot for "searingly"] insightful. Are your ears burning? I just mentioned you on another thread.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2023, 08:38:03 PM by Dicey »

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2023, 10:45:10 PM »
@Metalcat lol, yes, that was funny XD

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2023, 01:49:21 AM »
Seconding Metalcat's warning about land taking a lot of looking after.  If you want space from neighbours look at space from neighbours.  If you want to grow food at anything less than full sef-sufficiency then depending on the land you can do that on one eighth of an acre.  But I live rurally and people from the city not realising how much money and time even an average garden takes is common.

Otherwise, if you are going rural watch out for having to drive everywhere.  Watch out for facilities you thought would be on your doorstep going out of business.  Watch out for intensely rural properties blighted by road noise.

The centre or inner suburb of a small-ish town that has two solid reasons not to go into economic decline is a reasonable bet.

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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2023, 04:26:32 AM »
Seconding Metalcat's warning about land taking a lot of looking after.  If you want space from neighbours look at space from neighbours.  If you want to grow food at anything less than full sef-sufficiency then depending on the land you can do that on one eighth of an acre.  But I live rurally and people from the city not realising how much money and time even an average garden takes is common.

Otherwise, if you are going rural watch out for having to drive everywhere.  Watch out for facilities you thought would be on your doorstep going out of business.  Watch out for intensely rural properties blighted by road noise.

The centre or inner suburb of a small-ish town that has two solid reasons not to go into economic decline is a reasonable bet.

I'm back in the city and having to remember that it's okay to let my car tank run down to empty because I don't have to worry about the gas station not having gas.

Amenities are a major quality of life thing if you aren't used to what it's like being without them.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2023, 07:09:23 AM »
New to the sub-forum...
I'm currently on the edge of Milwaukee WI.  Big city with big city problems.  Mostly crime and taxes.  They're both continually going up.
I want to move a ways out of the city.   I want a large lot (by city standards - I don't know if small towns / rural are different).  Small town or rural would be nice, a farmstead could be ideal,  But I'm trying to keep an open mind.
Is there a name of this kind of realty that I can/should use to find a realtor and discuss with?
I googled 'rural realty' and got back acreage and farms...
Advance Thanks.

You are likely to find small acreages, a modest house with 2 -5 acres, near a metropolitan place to be exorbitant in price.

Instead, look for a house in a small town with a large lot. I look at realtor.com all the time and set the filter to property size to those with 1/2 acre and more. You could set the filter to 1 acre.

I have no idea what you want to do with your land, but you can do tons of things with 1 acre.

A few years ago we bought an old house, entirely livable but OLD ( original 1941 kitchen!) on one acre for $79,000 in a small tourist town. I did NOT want to be out in the country where I had to drive everywhere. My definition of desired location was “I want to be able to walk to a coffee shop.”

OP you don’t say how dependent you are on drive time to a job. That will limit how far out you can go.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2023, 07:18:57 AM by iris lily »

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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2023, 07:21:26 AM »
New to the sub-forum...
I'm currently on the edge of Milwaukee WI.  Big city with big city problems.  Mostly crime and taxes.  They're both continually going up.
I want to move a ways out of the city.   I want a large lot (by city standards - I don't know if small towns / rural are different).  Small town or rural would be nice, a farmstead could be ideal,  But I'm trying to keep an open mind.
Is there a name of this kind of realty that I can/should use to find a realtor and discuss with?
I googled 'rural realty' and got back acreage and farms...
Advance Thanks.

You are likely to find small acreages, a modest house with 2 -5 acres, near a metropolitan place to be exorbitant in price.

Instead, look for a house in a small town with a large lot. I look at realtor.com all the time and set the filter to property size to those with 1/2 acre and more. You could set the filter to 1 acre.

I have no idea what you want to do with your land, but you can do tons of things with 1 acre.

A few years ago we bought an old house, entirely livable but OLD ( original 1941 kitchen!) on one acre for $79,000 in a small tourist town. I did NOT want to be out in the country where I had to drive everywhere. My definition of desired location was “I want to be able to walk to a coffee shop.”

This is true. My parents are on an acreage as I mentioned, but they only use about 1-2 acres of it. The rest is just woods.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2023, 10:58:05 AM »

...   look at realtor.com all the time and set the filter to property size to those with 1/2 acre and more. You could set the filter to 1 acre.

I have no idea what you want to do with your land, but you can do tons of things with 1 acre.

A few years ago we bought an old house, entirely livable but OLD ( original 1941 kitchen!) on one acre for $79,000 in a small tourist town....
THANKS!!   This is pretty much what info I was hoping to get.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2023, 03:10:33 PM »
New to the sub-forum...
I'm currently on the edge of Milwaukee WI.  Big city with big city problems.  Mostly crime and taxes.  They're both continually going up.
I want to move a ways out of the city.   I want a large lot (by city standards - I don't know if small towns / rural are different).  Small town or rural would be nice, a farmstead could be ideal,  But I'm trying to keep an open mind.
Is there a name of this kind of realty that I can/should use to find a realtor and discuss with?
I googled 'rural realty' and got back acreage and farms...
Advance Thanks.

Do you want to stay in Wisconsin? I’m pretty sure that there are realtors who specialize in properties Up North. Ask around.

Otherwise, again, think about where you want to live. This is a nice time of year to drive around and visit!

I’ve bought two houses in Madison in the past couple of years, and our realtor is amazing. If I were buying somewhere else in the state, I’d ask him for a referral.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2023, 02:45:13 PM »

Do you want to stay in Wisconsin? I’m pretty sure that there are realtors who specialize in properties Up North. Ask around.

Otherwise, again, think about where you want to live. This is a nice time of year to drive around and visit!

I’ve bought two houses in Madison in the past couple of years, and our realtor is amazing. If I were buying somewhere else in the state, I’d ask him for a referral.
Staying in southern Wisc.  GF/SO has family in the area.   
Re; previous posts...  I grew up (partially yet significantly) on a dairy farm.  I 'know' rural living.

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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2023, 09:01:48 AM »
Instead of hiring a realtor, maybe try Zillow.com or Realtor.com? Your average realtor spends 90% of their time finding their next client and 10% of their time providing services to their existing clients. That's what you're paying for. You don't even need a realtor for closing.

Also, I'm seconding @former player 's note about having to drive everywhere. Your transportation expenses will skyrocket when you go rural/small town and what used to be minor errands (quick grocery run, visiting friends, getting the car serviced, picking up something from the home improvement store, etc.) will suddenly have turnaround times over 2 hours. 

If your car in Milwaukee gets broken into less than twice per year at a cost of less than $500 per breakin, you'll almost certainly spend more money on that car traveling several thousand more miles per year along rural highways. You'll also spend more time driving one or two hundred more hours per year than dealing with such messes.

As you think about high taxes, don't forget to account for things like pumping your septic tank, paying extra for rural trash pickup, higher odds of long utility outages so you buy and maintain a generator, higher bids from contractors, potentially higher homeowner's insurance, propane delivery, well maintenance if you have a well, and more vulnerability to things like the price of gas, tires, and new vehicles.

I also second the idea of getting specific about what you want to do and only buying as much dirt as it takes to accomplish that goal. A quarter-acre garden is practically a part-time job. A big workshop with driveway or a chicken yard takes about an eighth acre. A nice little orchard can be had in two to four acres. Etc. A city or suburban house that includes the empty lot next to it can meet most needs unless you want large livestock and unless surrounding buildings shade it.   

So many people buy a several-acre lot and then realize they "need" a $15,000 zero-turn mower to cut all that grass. Next thing you know their whole lives revolve around "caring for" a patch of dirt and between that and driving it becomes an obsession that eats more money and time than city inconveniences ever did.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2023, 09:46:36 AM »
I am not sure where you work in Milwaukee which makes a difference but both Kenosha and Racine are cheaper and safer and not far from the south side of Milwaukee. There’s also homes with acreage in this area.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2023, 10:26:25 PM »
Generally, most RE agents are not able to make your dream come true. You're going to have to really spend some time working on this.

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Re: How do I find a realtor that will help me find the property I want?
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2024, 08:29:26 PM »
I am a WI REALTOR.

I understand your problem. There is waves to the market. The spring season kicks up late March (People don't want to move in the snow, who knew?). People who want to see and ride the wave start early. People are paying cash over their offers to make things happen.

So, depends what side of Milwaukee you want to live on, and what your commute is. Big thing is to make a relationship with a REALTOR that you think you can work with. I have an auntie that has lived in Milwaukee her whole life and also has her license. Get on a push list, so whenever something is put on the MLS you get a notification. I would recommend seeing things as soon as they come onto market.

In the meanwhile- get your backend ready. Are you ready for financing? If the right place comes along, are you ready to go when you see it?

Personally, I believe in a tour of homes, and it's very rare that I don't encourage people to see 20, 30, 40+ homes on the market to see what is available and make an informed opinion.