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Building an Airbnb - LLC? Taxes? Deductions?
« on: November 03, 2024, 08:21:25 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I'm in the process of building an Airbnb in the Foothills of Colorado.  I'm meeting with an accountant for a consult this week, but wanted to see if you guys had suggestions on how to set it up?  Do I need an LLC?  What extra insurance should i carry?  What is tax deductible from the build?  Furnishing?  What else should I look at to best capitalize on this and reduce my exposure?  Appreciate any advice!

Here's some additional details:

Rental:  This is stand alone rental on an acre property.   Property value is $1.5M (not including ADU addition) ADU is costing approximately $320K to build.  Likely $7k to furnish.  800 sq ft.  Main house is 3300 sq ft.  Separate utilities for both structures (water, sewer, electricity).  Owe $220K on main house (30 yrs, 3.375%), $140k on ADU@ 6.99%.  I expect the ADU to gross $60K annually before expenses. 

Personal:  Single, W2 income is $400K, ~$2M in 401K + vanguard taxable account.  Minimal deduction - 401K maxed, itemized deductions.   

How do I best set this up?

I've been doing my taxes on Turbo tax, but think I'm ready for an expert.  Any recommendations in Colorado?

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Re: Building an Airbnb - LLC? Taxes? Deductions?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2024, 01:18:29 PM »
This isn't at all what you're asking, but how do you think the ADU will affect those renting the main house and how much they'll be willing to pay?  It's on a full acre, so I assume there's some space between them, so that's a plus.  However, since the main house is 3,300 sq ft, I imagine they're paying quite a bit in rent and like their privacy, so an ADU could be a big negative.  Are there trees or bushes between the two houses?  Will they share the same driveway?  Do you have current long term tenants or do you expect a turnover? 

For what you are asking, make sure you have umbrella insurance.  For deductions, is all the construction for Airbnb/rental or will you be living there at all?  If it's all for business, then all your expenses are business expenses.  I think you could probably furnish it for less than 7k if you buy used, and it would be silly to purchase everything new. 

I don't have experience with the LLC route, but financing might be dependent on it being under your name personally.  A bank won't loan money to an LLC without sufficient assets, which I think usually means a person has several rental properties lumped together into one LLC.  Maybe the financing is from a HELOC or cash out refinance of your rental property, which I suppose could potentially be made into an LLC, maybe?

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2024, 01:25:17 PM »
If I had a liquid NW of $2 million (plus over a million bucks in equity on your property) and a $400k day job, no way in hell would I spend my time building an ADU to use as an AirBnB to earn relative peanuts. I've run an AirBnB. I lasted about 3 months before I turned it into a long term rental, because OMG running an AirBnB is PITA.

My advice, hence, would be to rent it long term, find someone to manage it, and look closely at what you want to do with your life. Sounds like you probably don't (unless you really like spending $) need more money at this point.

If the other house is also a rental (or do you live in it?), it might make sense to set up an LLC. Otherwise I probably would not bother.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2024, 02:08:26 PM »
This is a great book.  Even if you consult with an accountant (which you should) it is still very worthwhile reading:

https://store.nolo.com/products/every-landlords-tax-deduction-guide-dell.html?srsltid=AfmBOorZX1KvlrR9CvmuR7ggIYQQiNhAcjCE6nVNoVOGBnJiq-JYQLju


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Re: Building an Airbnb - LLC? Taxes? Deductions?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2024, 08:12:33 AM »
Thanks for the book and accountant recommendations!  I've got the book on order. 

The ADU is on the same property as my residence, so no concerns about bothering the main renters.  I have a property manager (Evolve) to handle the logistics of the short term rental, so hopefully minimal impact to me.  It is mid construction, so not debating the merits of doing it or not, I'm committed.  The plan is to pay this off in the short term, and when I quit my W2 job in a couple years, this covers my living expenses without touching my investments. 

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2024, 10:24:05 AM »
When you talk with the accountant, please lay out your situation more clearly than you did here. It’s confusing because you first described the main house as a stand alone rental. It actually being your primary residence, which you either have roommates or a suite, is a bit different from an accounting perspective.

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Re: Building an Airbnb - LLC? Taxes? Deductions?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2024, 07:29:56 AM »
I think that by "stand alone," OP meant the ADU rental is separate from the main house on the property, which is his residence.

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Re: Building an Airbnb - LLC? Taxes? Deductions?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2024, 07:10:41 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I'm in the process of building an Airbnb in the Foothills of Colorado.  I'm meeting with an accountant for a consult this week, but wanted to see if you guys had suggestions on how to set it up?  Do I need an LLC?  What extra insurance should i carry?  What is tax deductible from the build?  Furnishing?  What else should I look at to best capitalize on this and reduce my exposure?  Appreciate any advice!

Here's some additional details:

Rental:  This is stand alone rental on an acre property.   Property value is $1.5M (not including ADU addition) ADU is costing approximately $320K to build.  Likely $7k to furnish.  800 sq ft.  Main house is 3300 sq ft.  Separate utilities for both structures (water, sewer, electricity).  Owe $220K on main house (30 yrs, 3.375%), $140k on ADU@ 6.99%.  I expect the ADU to gross $60K annually before expenses. 

Personal:  Single, W2 income is $400K, ~$2M in 401K + vanguard taxable account.  Minimal deduction - 401K maxed, itemized deductions.   

How do I best set this up?

I've been doing my taxes on Turbo tax, but think I'm ready for an expert.  Any recommendations in Colorado?

@Coloradostache I've got a bunch of blog posts about how to make short-term rentals work. But here's one you want to probably start with: https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/short-term-rental-depreciation-deductions/ It provides a calculator you can use to estimate the depreciation deductions and their timing if you use a cost segregation study.

Also not angling for the work. We're plenty busy. But you don't need someone in Colorado if you want to maximize your STR tax savings. You want someone who understands how STRs work and when they don't. There are bunch of ways to catastrophically bungle STR taxes. (At the end of the linked to blog post, there are links to three articles you would probably find useful.) Good luck!

 

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