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Mortgage Free Mike

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Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« on: February 09, 2014, 08:35:38 PM »
About a month ago I made the switch from my $110 a month Verizon plan with an iPhone 5 to the $25 a month Republic Wireless plan with the new Moto X phone.

I've gotta say, it's worth the $85 savings, so far.

My one frustration, however, has been trouble with texting my iPhone friends. I didn't realize I had to disable iMessage before selling my iPhone, so apparently some iPhone users are having trouble sending me messages. Their phones think I am still an iPhone user, so it sends an iMessage, not an SMS text. I have had to coach a few friends through the process of deleting my number and re-entering it. Still, some are having to manually send SMS text messages.  An Apple rep told me it should work itself out within 30 days. We'll see. This problem isn't limited to Republic Wireless.

Otherwise, only a few dropped calls when on Sprint's network, which is good in my area. Wi-Fi works great.

I wrote a full review on my website to expand on these points. When I compared the wireless plans on the market, Republic Wireless made the most sense.

My review of Republic's $25 talk, text and data plan - http://wp.me/p4kABG-1e

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 03:58:26 PM »
I don't know much about their old phone, the Defy, right? But I'll tell you the Moto X is great. It's very sharp looking. Everyone asks me what type of phone I have.  And oddly enough, a friend who pays a lot more on Verizon just got this phone. I told him about Republic and he couldn't believe it. As a former iPhone user, I was concerned the Android would be too confusing, but it's actually very simple to use. I'd go for it if you have the money and are happy with Republic's service.

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2014, 07:02:01 AM »
I just switched from Verizon to Republic Wireless as well.  Currently in the midst of selling my old iPhone.  I've had issues with the iMessaging as well, but apparently it seems like you have to disable 'imessage' as well as 'facetime' for it to work appropriately.  Also, if you have any other apple products (laptop), you need to make sure to disable imessaging and facetime from that as well. 

MOTO X is great so far, nothing major to complain about.  I'm on the $10 plan.  Only data I really need outside of the house is GPS, and I discovered that as long as you get it to find the directions before you leave the house, turn by turn navigation doesn't use any data.  However, it can't re-route if you don't follow the path you planned on.  One thing I've noticed about android is it doesn't compress videos - so if you have a video over 25MB you can't text or email it like you can on iPhone. 


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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2014, 07:07:25 AM »
gmail won't send a 25mb file?

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2014, 07:54:49 AM »
It won't send it from the phone if it's over 25MB, is the error I receive when trying to text/email videos from the phone.

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2014, 04:18:57 PM »
So can you use Republic to tether and thus provide your internet connection to your house?

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2014, 05:12:00 PM »
As I understand my RW phone and the $10 plan, it requires a WiFi at home.  I guess you could pay for a higher plan that would give you data but kind of defeats the purpose of the cheaper plans...

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2014, 05:19:17 PM »
So can you use Republic to tether and thus provide your internet connection to your house?

Nope. They don't even like you using the phone much outside of your WiFi hotspot where you get data from some other source.

Quote from: Republic Wireless Terms of Service
19. Acceptable Use Policy; Usage Limitations; Off-Network Roaming; Other Usage Matters; Matters Related to Data Services.

(c) In addition to those uses prohibited as illegal, improper or inappropriate pursuant to Republic Wireless’ Acceptable Use Policy or otherwise, You will not (and will not permit Users to): (i) generate excessive network traffic through the continuous, unattended streaming, downloading or uploading of videos or other files or otherwise, or the operation of hosting services, each as determined by Republic Wireless in its sole discretion, (ii) maintain continuous active network connections through the use of a web camera or other machine-to-machine connections that do not involve active participation by a person; (iii) utilize excessively, as determined by Republic Wireless in its sole discretion, any community member support; (iv) utilize any Mobile Device(s) in a manner inconsistent with normal consumer usage, including, without limitation, any disassembly or modification of any Mobile Device(s) or any cabling of any Mobile Device(s) to any unaffiliated location; (v) modify any software included in any Mobile Device(s); (vi) utilize any Mobile Device(s) as a modem for computers or other equipment (or otherwise tether such Mobile Device to any such computers or other equipment), unless Republic Wireless identifies the Service Plan and/or Mobile Device provided as specifically intended for that purpose; (vii) violate or infringe any copyright, patent, trademark or trade secret or right of privacy or publicity or any other personal or proprietary right of any third parties; (viii) will not send or attempt to send any message(s) that include a virus, Trojan horse, worm, back door, trap door, time bomb, drop-dead device, timer, clock, counter or other limiting routine, as well as any other instructions, designs, software routines, or hardware components designed to: (A) disable, erase, or otherwise harm software, hardware, data, text or any other information stored in electronic form; (B) cause any of the foregoing with the passage of time; or (C) place a program or hardware under the positive control of a person other than an owner or licensee of the program or hardware; or (ix) will not send or attempt to send any message(s) that include any spamming, mail-bombing, spoofing or any fraudulent, illegal or unauthorized use.

You (and everyone else) should also give their AUP, the full T&C and any other legal document a full read. You want to know why I don't recommend Republic at the most fundamental level? It comes down to those legal documents you commit to after shelling your money out. Their own contracts basically stand in stark contrast to everything they promise in the advertising copy.

Here's one of my favorite bits:

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REPUBLIC WIRELESS RESERVES THE RIGHT TO IMMEDIATELY TERMINATE SERVICE AND, IN ADDITION TO ANY AND ALL OTHER APPLICABLE CHARGES UNDER THESE TERMS OF SERVICE, CHARGE A MINIMUM INAPPROPRIATE USE FEE OF $500 AND/OR CHARGE $0.05 PER MINUTE FOR ALL CALLS MADE DURING SUCH PERIODS OF PROHIBITED USE, WHICHEVER IS HIGHER, CHARGE $0.04 PER SMS OR MMS FOR ALL SMS’ OR MMS’ MADE DURING SUCH PERIODS OF PROHIBITED USE, AND CHARGE $0.30 PER MB OF DATA CONTENT FOR USAGE DURING SUCH PERIODS OF PROHIBITED USE, AS WELL AS ALL APPLICABLE AMOUNTS DUE PURSUANT TO THESE TERMS OF SERVICE AND THE SERVICE PLAN. (WE DO NOT REALLY WANT TO CHARGE YOU THESE FEES AND DO NOT EXPECT THAT YOU WILL DO ANYTHING THAT MAKES US THINK ABOUT IT.  PLEASE BEHAVE.)

But you'll note even with the cutesy language in a legal document, they don't exactly disclose where this magic line is anywhere except that it's by their discretion. Not even America Movil has the gall to threaten a $500+ fine on top of disconnecting your service for "abusing" their data connection, and at least they've finally disclosed a data soft cap policy as well.

Edit: That said, just for historical perspective back in their beta phase... here's what Republic considered to be abusive usage in the past.

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How much cellular usage is too much?
It depends. Even assuming 0% wifi usage, for example, you could consume 550 minutes, send 150 texts, and download 300 megabytes of data without crossing the community’s fair use threshold. Everyone's usage patterns will be different, but we're confident you’ll be amazed at how little cellular you actually use when you have a phone that makes it easy to leverage the power of your Wi-Fi networks.

550 minutes, 150 texts, 300MB of data of actual mobile usage.

Reach your own conclusions, folks.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2014, 05:35:09 PM by I.P. Daley »

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2014, 08:02:24 PM »
Can I ask why you picked Republic over other cheap options? We currently have Airvoice, but we have "dumb" phones and we want to upgrade to smart phones maybe late this year, so I sort of have that provider decision in the back of my head.

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2014, 09:47:13 PM »
Can I ask why you picked Republic over other cheap options? We currently have Airvoice, but we have "dumb" phones and we want to upgrade to smart phones maybe late this year, so I sort of have that provider decision in the back of my head.
I would highly recommend looking at I.P. Daley's guide if you are deciding which plan to go with, especially if cost is your main issue. It breaks stuff down pretty well. (Plus if you don't read it, he'll say something later ;-)).
That being said, I chose Republic back when it was beta only, and I chose them because they were completely disruptive to what people came to expect from a cell phone company. They were one of the first to truly capitalize on the wifi calling technology, and pass that along to the customer. Even though they aren't the only game out there now, nor necessarily the cheapest, I still love what the company stands for, and I truly believe supporting them.

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2014, 02:38:44 PM »
If you're a mega data user, this isn't for you. This is for people who have access to Wi-Fi a lot of the time. I make calls fine over Wi-Fi and Sprint as a backup.  I think Republic is trying to protect itself against abusers of the system with that language in the fine print.

I chose Republic because:

1) Sprint (the backup) has good service my area
2) The Moto X phone has great reviews
3) I read Clark Howard's review. He is someone I know personally and trust. Here's the link in case you are interested:
http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/clark-howard/technology/clarks-review-republic-wireless/nb8zx/

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2014, 01:15:43 PM »
Does anyone who has done this happen to know if you can use your old (disconnected) iphone to facetime after you switch to another device and carrier?

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Re: Dumped Verizon for Republic Wireless
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2014, 10:40:11 AM »
Does anyone who has done this happen to know if you can use your old (disconnected) iphone to facetime after you switch to another device and carrier?

Yes you can facetime with your iPhone when you have a WIFI connection, the same way an iPad with out a cellular antenna can use facetime