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suzyfein

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Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« on: March 24, 2013, 11:26:18 AM »
Hi everyone,

I'm hoping y'all have a suggestion for disinfecting our house.

First, my husband, our toddler and myself are recovering from a nasty stomach virus. We've heard it is norovirus rampaging throughout the community. Whatever it was, it sucked for about 48 hours. Today is the first day I've been able to get out of bed.

Second, we have an older dog with bladder cancer. She has a tendency toward infections and incontinence, as well as some spotty bleeding. We try to keep a diaper on her (adult diapers with a hole cut for the tail), but we have a hard time doing it 100% of the time (she's able to get it off).

Suffice it to say, I don't feel like our house is a clean place to live.

After freaking out a bit, I thought about buying one of those $200 steam vacs. But then I remembered MMM and stopped myself just in time.

Does anyone have favorite methods to share to disinfect? Is diluted bleach is the best solution? How should I clean the floors? We have a mix of hardwoods, vinyl tile and carpet. I have to keep our curious toddler in mind and make sure the cleaning method is safe for her.

Thanks so much!
Suzanne

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 12:58:00 PM »
Soap and water should be enough to kill germs.  If in doubt, spray with vinegar, let it sit for a minute, and wipe off.  All this anti-bacterial stuff currently available is the reason why we're running into strains of bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics. 

For your carpet, I'd suggest you hire a professional to come and clean it and alert them about your special needs (child and dog).  They have access to specialty products that aren't available off the shelf.   Call around to see what the prices are and ask what the price includes.  Those places are notorious for quoting a basic cheap price, then upsell you once they get at your house. What you want is to have your carpets sanitized and deodorized which might not be included in the basic price.   Having said all that, they are more efficient at it than you would if you were buying or renting a carpet cleaner.  It's money well spent. 


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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 01:46:27 PM »
I think I had that earlier this year... it is been a bad year.

So few things: the virus itself is weak as a puppy. It can survive 12 hours on a hard surface, maybe 12 days in a fabric or other 'safe' environment for it. You would be better off to spend extra energy ensuring everyone washes their hands (the dog can be exempt) regularly - especially before touching an eye, mouth, ear or nose (basically anything that is wet on your body). Soap and water like blyeeyetea suggested will kill pretty much anything you need to worry about.

So to answer your specific questions I reccomend:
murphy's soap/oil for hardwood
mr. clean (or just regular soap) for vinyl
carpet is just dirty, no way around it. rent a steam cleaner from your local supermarket if you want to give it a super clean. But in terms of priorities, I would sooner spend the energy on hand washing. If you are dead set on cleaning the carpet, steam clean it. No chemicals, and ya.

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2013, 02:26:52 PM »
Once you've gotten a virus, no amount of cleaning is going to change that. It can be lying dormant all over your house; but it doesn't matter, you've already caught it.

I won't say that you should not worry too much about sterilizing your house; god forbid that you heed my advice, someone gets sick and gets hospitalized (or worse). Short term, it's definitely a good thing to kill as much bacteria/viruses/etc. as possible. But long term, personally I don't think so. I think of the immune system as a muscle. Yeah, taking a day off is rather nice. Two is great. Three...I dunno. Five years of laying on the couch = can't get up to pee. Some of the sickest kids I know live in spotless homes.

Our kids play in the dirt. They pick up rocks (one mom acted freaked out when my daughter offered her a rock that had been outside). They wash their hands after going to the toilet (with regular soap, not anti-bacterial). Hand sanitizer is rarely used (I may take it as backup on a trip in case there's no soap; if on a cruise and they're "making" you use it before eating, so be it). If another child coughs in their general direction, I'm not going to completely freak out and run away screaming (but if our kids cough, I often have to remind them to cover their mouth with their arm).

Kids and dirt go together.

Ok, now to address your actual questions:

Dog: I won't get into quality of life, I'm assuming you've already thought of that. Do other dog owners or your vet have any tips on keeping the diaper on, or an alternative? Doggie suspenders? Maybe confine her to a certain area at a time. I don't mean lock her up. I'm thinking...make it so she can't get out of the kitchen. You do your thing there while she visits; she wants to leave, you make sure the diaper is still intact, then let her into another sectioned off part of the house (such as the living room). If the diaper is NOT intact, you don't have to go through the whole house trying to find it, you know it's in the kitchen (or living room, bedroom, etc.).

For occasional use, a cheap sponge mop will do the trick. Water and vinegar or water and ammonia is all I use. Yeah, we do have a steam mop...back in the US, collecting dust. It's a bit less intensive to use (just pour in water/solution/whatever, steam clean the hardwood floor and vinyl, done; vs getting a bucket, rinsing it in a sink so you don't dirty up the clean water as quick, worry about how sanitary the whole process is, etc.). As for carpets, a cheap carpet cleaner would probably be sufficient, just make sure you let everything dry out after each use (yes, air out the carpet so mold doesn't grow, but I'm thinking more along the lines of the carpet cleaner itself). Personally, I just use vinegar in place of the cleaning solution.

suzyfein

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2013, 04:46:21 PM »
Y'all are beyond fantastic. Your advice and wisdom made me feel so much better. I truly appreciate the time and thoughtfulness you put into your answers. Lots of easy actions we can put into place. And bonus...my mom gave us her carpet steamer to use.

Thanks Josetann for the suggestion to investigate a different type of dog diaper. I found a woman on Etsy that custom makes fabric/velcro dog diapers in all sizes, and they look much more stable. Only $17.99 plus three bucks to ship. Great deal, and better for the environment.

Thanks again to all! Taking a nice deep breath.

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2013, 05:49:01 PM »
you've already gotten some great advice on the cleaning here, so I don't need to add the same info, but just wanted to chime in that yes, we got some version of that bug this past weekend and it was a whopper. Our 3 year old was not terribly sick but DH and I were.
And the fabric/velcro doggy diapers do work well - my mom used one on her very old dog toward the end of its life.

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2013, 08:51:09 AM »
This is a late response, but with an incontinent dog it may be useful to know that Nature's Miracle is an absolute necessity in your situation. It removes pet odors, esp. urine, very well. You can get it at pet stores, some hardware stores, feed stores, etc. It isn't that expensive.

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2016, 11:36:37 PM »
+1 on the bleach for after norovirus. Nothing else really does the trick at the household level. Vinegar is not going to touch that stuff. Rubbing alcohol doesn't affect it either.

For the rest -- well, we have friends who swear by the Spot Bot / Little Green Clean Machine.

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2016, 09:42:15 AM »
Bleach yep. You don't need much - make a pretty dilute solution with water. Works great on most of your hard surfaces, obviously keep it away from carpets, clothing etc that the bleach will damage.

Open the windows and air out the house regularly, if your climate allows. Will help both dissipate the bleach vapors and vent out / dry out various nasties.

I wonder if there would be a way to use UV light to destroy the virus. I know some places (hospitals etc) use it for disinfection of various things.

I had this nasty bug, as did one of my sons, right before the new year. It sucked big time, but somehow I got over it in only about 8 hours (felt weakened for a day after, but no more nausea or puking). We had been staying at my FIL's house along with ALL of his kids and their families, so there were about 30 people in the house including many kids of various ages. The bug went around like a sneaky time bomb, since it had a 1-2 day incubation you never knew who was going to get hit next.

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2016, 09:02:47 AM »
We have bleach and water in a spray bottle. When these viruses hit, the one thing that stops us all getting it is spraying faucets, toilet handle, door handles every time sick person uses that bathroom.
Bleach. Always reliable. And changing bedding daily...straight in a hot wash...or just pillow case if you can't face that. We are amazed how effective this kind of spot cleaning is.

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2016, 06:00:05 PM »
Hi Suzy.

I have a bachelor's degree in Biochemistry, and I had to do additional research on norovirus and GI-tract viruses a couple of years ago when we had two separate rounds of bad stomach virus in my extended family.
I think you've got some good advice here, but I'm also concerned, because some of the information and assumptions being made on this thread are absolutely wrong.
First, these viruses, whether norovirus or stomach flu, are not 'weak as a puppy' and do not die after 24 hours. These viruses remain viable and infectious on hard surfaces for up to 3 weeks. An elementary school in my area was shut down for a week to allow complete disinfection of all surfaces after infection rates of all students and teachers surpassed 80%.
I personally contracted stomach flu from a hard surface that had not been disinfected, during a visit to a home that had hosted a child with stomach flu two weeks before. The child had been gone over a week when we arrived, and the other people in the house hadn't gotten sick. My boyfriend got sick 3 days after we arrived, and me a day after that. Both of us were violently ill and unable to eat anything for 3 days.

Soap and/or vinegar does *not* kill these viruses. You need to use a product like Lysol Wipes or a dilute bleach solution. Dilute bleach solution is the standard disinfectant for surfaces in science labs and hospitals (at least, all the ones I'm familiar with), and everyone who suggested that is right on the money.

Also, it *is* important to disinfect the house - all hard surfaces, pull knobs, doorhandles, toilet flush handle and toilet sink taps especially.
One should never assume that it isn't worth bothering because a) everyone is already sick or b) you've got the virus even if you aren't sick.
You might not have it yet, and at some point in the next three weeks you might have visitors to your home who would prefer not to have norovirus.
Also, if an area that was highly exposed to the virus and is therefore serving as a reservoir for the virus (like, for example, the toilet handle) is not disinfected, every time a person touches it, they will take that virus with them to the next pit stop. Stomach flu virus is transmitted through fecal matter. Not snot, not spit.

Last, 'germs' is a useless term that leads to people confusing bacteria with viruses. Bacteria and viruses are vastly different organisms. Many garden-variety bacteria  -- including the ones that live in your gut -- can be neutralized with plain soap, vinegar, rubbing alcohol, or salt. None of those things are effective on stomach flu virus or norovirus, or regular cold viruses.

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2016, 07:45:22 AM »
Thanks Missy. Most useful

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2016, 11:30:17 AM »
I'm getting thru a head/chest cold.
This thread had me wondering if I've been re-infecting myself, so I used disinfectant wipes on the things I touch every day;
besides faucets, door knobs and toilet flusher, I did;
alarm clock
my universal remote
computer mouse and keyboard
light switches

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Re: Disinfecting house after stomach virus
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2016, 08:05:15 AM »
I'm not much of a "germaphobe" but I use antibacterial wipes on hard surfaces every time I fly, both in the airport and on the plane:  seat arms, tray table, etc.  Anecdotally, my staff has commented upon the fact that I don't get sick after every business trip anymore.

 

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