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Best shows on TV
« on: April 06, 2016, 04:55:39 AM »
Here are my favorites in order. What new shows are a must for you?

1. Game of Thrones-- HBO
2. The Walking Dead-- AMC
3. The Expanse-- SYFY
4. The Left Overs-- HBO
5. American Ninja Warrior-- NBC

I also drop in on CNBC a lot but that really isn't a series.

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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2016, 05:42:40 AM »
Books.

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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2016, 05:49:45 AM »
I can't remember the last time I watched a show on live TV. We only have 10 channels and never have time to watch something when it's on. We have Hulu/Netflix and love to watch things out of order - most of the shows we're fans of require very little mental effort. Plus, we usually only have time to maybe watch one episode of something per day.

1. Supernatural (CW)
2. Last Man On Earth (FOX)
3. Fixer Upper/Property Brothers (HGTV)
4. MasterChef/MasterChef Junior/Chopped (Food Network)
5. Better Call Saul (AMC)

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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2016, 05:58:46 AM »
The newest show I just finished watching on Netflix was the two seasons of Happy Valley .

Just finished watching the whole Stargate franchise in order, including the movies...some of it on Amazon Prime and some I bought the DVDs-- but you asked for new shows.

I read a lot. Hate network TV.

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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2016, 08:54:03 AM »
Books.

Yup.

But I will confess to appreciating 'Father Brown' on BBC. It's (very) loosely based on short stories by G.K. Chesterson. It's about the world's most adorable priest and his ragtag bunch of misfits, and they go around solving the murders that take place every week in their tiny English village.

-Catholics are not shamed for having beliefs. Nor are they presented as perfect. (Homophobia, Magdalene Houses, the role of the Vatican during WW2 are all brought up).
-Others are not shamed for having differing beliefs from Christianity.
-It's not shocking or needlessly graphic. Nor is it needlessly vulgar.
-Women have friendships with other women. Sometimes women have fights with other women. Sometimes women are meek, sometimes they are strong, sometimes they have problems, sometimes they solve problems. Some daughters have great relationships with their moms, some daughters have terrible relationships. The point is that the female characters and their relationships with each other are varied. Rumor has it that in season 4 a main female character is strongly implied to be bisexual, but I've only seen seasons 1 and 2.
-Some characters are sexually liberated. The Catholic characters are presented as not approving of this, but they never stop loving or defending their friends and neighbors.
-It takes place in the 1950s and the costumes are amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing.

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 08:55:13 AM »
(I don't have cable so I am only able to do a best shows on Netflix and Hulu list)

1. Last Man on Earth
2. Friends
3. Last Man Standing
4. Breaking Bad
5. Brooklyn Nine Nine

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2016, 01:33:52 AM »
Books.

Then you can read Game of Thrones, the Expanse, and the Left Overs. The Walking Dead is in graphic novel or comic form but you can get it on paper as well. Imagine that. You are out of luck with American Ninja Warrior-- TV only

I am kind of curious why anyone would pick Netflix over HBO Now-- sure HBO twice as much but its 10x as good. Just an opinion. I have Netflix but the only one who watches it over actual TV programming in my house is my son.

on Netflix he watches mind numbing cartoons but on TV he watches Mythbusters. Netlix was losing to Gravity Falls but that show has already run its course.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2016, 07:40:24 AM »
Man in the High Castle via Amazon Prime

Re Netflix, it is a big draw for kids. But depending our your kids taste in shows, netflix can be interchangeable with Amazon prime or Hulu or even YouTube.

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2016, 08:26:46 AM »
Books.

Then you can read Game of Thrones, the Expanse, and the Left Overs. The Walking Dead is in graphic novel or comic form but you can get it on paper as well. Imagine that. You are out of luck with American Ninja Warrior-- TV only.

Whenever I hear people gushing about a TV show, I check to see if it's based on novels.  Many times it is--that's how I read "Wolf Hall" and "A Song of Ice and Fire" ("Game of Thrones" is the name of the first book).  I'd read the "Outlander" books long before the series came along.  And since the obsession with zombies bore me, I'll skip "The Walking Dead," thanks.  :D

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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2016, 02:14:00 AM »
At the moment it is Better Call Saul. I recommend it if you're a Breaking Bad fan. The first season is on Netflix. I will be tuning into Game of Thrones when it starts back. Another good show my GF and I just finished is 11/22/63 on Hulu. It's based on the Stephen King book.

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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2016, 04:58:30 PM »
I finally got around to reading the Game of Thrones books while on paternity leave. Should I watch the new season starting this month or wait and read the book first (assuming it ever comes out)? It's weird that they diverged the stories so much. So I'm not sure whether things that happen in the show will make the books less interesting.

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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2016, 05:04:21 PM »
I finally got around to reading the Game of Thrones books while on paternity leave. Should I watch the new season starting this month or wait and read the book first (assuming it ever comes out)? It's weird that they diverged the stories so much. So I'm not sure whether things that happen in the show will make the books less interesting.

According to an article I saw in an interview with GRRM, he is no where near done with the next book, so you would need to be ready to wait.

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2016, 07:56:40 PM »
I finally got around to reading the Game of Thrones books while on paternity leave. Should I watch the new season starting this month or wait and read the book first (assuming it ever comes out)? It's weird that they diverged the stories so much. So I'm not sure whether things that happen in the show will make the books less interesting.

I would sign up for HBO Now's month free trial-- binge the crap out of it-- then cancel if you are frugal or wait until new season is over then cancel. Many seasonal viewers of HBO due to that show.

The original True Detective is a must see but thats "old" already

On the binge note... you sign up for Netflix disc trials.. do three and cancel after a month. Thats how I originally got sucked into Game of Thrones

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2016, 09:09:57 PM »
I've read some really damn amazing books in my lifetime. Really wonderful stuff. I've also watched some damn amazing TV shows. They each have their worth.

I just finished up the 2nd season of The Fall. I've also been re-watching Star Trek: Enterprise. I love, love, love the how Enterprise creates links between the modern Navy, and the nascent Starfleet. Rocks my nerd world.

That's pretty much all I have time for. Some historic series I really enjoyed:
1. The X-Files
2. Dexter
3. Grey's Anatomy
4. Bones
5. Xena: Warrior Princess
6. The Star Trek univers. Except DS:9. Didn't care for that one.

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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2016, 09:19:09 PM »
Nice..

anyone watching "The Story of God with Morgan Freeman"

it just started on National Geo channel. It is on every Sunday. He is exploring the after life and various world religions. The first one jumped around a little bit but its pretty good so far. I will continue to watch for now.

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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2016, 09:50:56 PM »

6. The Star Trek univers. Except DS:9. Didn't care for that one.

You would love the Expanse. Its the best Scifi television show I have seen in years-- maybe ever.

Stargate Universe is one of my old favorites but it only made it one season.

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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2016, 10:04:11 PM »
There are two seasons of Stargate Universe. I can't believe they cancelled that show...it was turning into a real gem. (Like the lost, lamented Firefly...sigh.)

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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2016, 10:22:43 PM »
There are two seasons of Stargate Universe. I can't believe they cancelled that show...it was turning into a real gem. (Like the lost, lamented Firefly...sigh.)
I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT FIREFLY. Or Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Both excellent, character driven tv shows. Plus, the comic book post-TV seasons of BtVS. Really beautiful art.


6. The Star Trek univers. Except DS:9. Didn't care for that one.

You would love the Expanse. Its the best Scifi television show I have seen in years-- maybe ever.

Stargate Universe is one of my old favorites but it only made it one season.
Thanks, mister sir, I'll check that out.

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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2016, 11:24:57 PM »
Dr. Who and The Americans are two of my current favorites. Both are on Amazon Prime, or BBC and FX if watching current.  I also really enjoy The Librarians, Broadchurch and Warehouse 13 (series ended).  The PBS Sherlock mini series is also great.

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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2016, 12:28:11 AM »
1. Better Call Saul
2. Shark Tank
3. Grimm
4. Alaska the last Frontier
5. American Greed (older show)
6. Cyber CSI

Not too interested in shows which are violent or sexual. A little violence is ok....So these listed are pretty clean actually.
Just got done watching American Crime Story regarding OJ Simpson.That was really good!!
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2016, 04:10:09 AM »
1. Supernatural
2. The Walking Dead
3. How to Get Away With Murder
4. Grimm
5. Homeland

I love and still watch old repeats of shows like Frasier (my favourite show ever) The Simpsons (older episodes are much better) Buffy, Angel and Friends.:)

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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2016, 04:19:30 AM »
Hell on Wheels
Vikings
Better Call Saul
House of Cards


Great binges:
Arrow
Supernatural
Flash
Daredevil
Star Trek TNG

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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2016, 05:12:55 AM »
Not a lot of comedy (or even dra-medy) being recommended so far. Adding a few excellent TV shows that I have not seen mentioned yet in the thread:

Silicon Valley (season 3 on HBO later this month)
iZombie
Jane the Virgin
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt (new season on netflix next week)
Archer

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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2016, 08:46:31 AM »
I finally got around to reading the Game of Thrones books while on paternity leave. Should I watch the new season starting this month or wait and read the book first (assuming it ever comes out)? It's weird that they diverged the stories so much. So I'm not sure whether things that happen in the show will make the books less interesting.

According to an article I saw in an interview with GRRM, he is no where near done with the next book, so you would need to be ready to wait.

I'm wondering if he'll live long enough to finish book 7. He's not in the greatest of health. And at this rate it could easily be 10 years before it's done.

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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2016, 09:19:54 AM »
This is what Martin had to say about concern over his death LOL http://youtu.be/nTOrBNCeF1Y

Sorry I couldn't resist. Apparently it's a big enough concern that it was even brought to his attention
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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2016, 12:48:13 PM »
The newest show I just finished watching on Netflix was the two seasons of Happy Valley .

Just finished watching the whole Stargate franchise in order, including the movies...some of it on Amazon Prime and some I bought the DVDs-- but you asked for new shows.

I read a lot. Hate network TV.
There is a season 2 for Happy Valley? Thats good t know.

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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2016, 02:09:03 PM »
1. Game of Thrones
2. Walking Dead
3. Better Call Saul
4. The Knick
5. Billions
6. Ray Donovan
7. Fear of the Walking Dead
8. Silicon Valley
9. Limitless
10.Vikings

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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2016, 07:43:25 PM »
Not a lot of comedy (or even dra-medy) being recommended so far. Adding a few excellent TV shows that I have not seen mentioned yet in the thread:

Silicon Valley (season 3 on HBO later this month)
iZombie
Jane the Virgin
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt (new season on netflix next week)
Archer

I am so happy to hear someone mention iZombie! If you liked Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Veronica Mars, I think you would like this. (Plus for VM fans--it is by the same showrunner so VM actors turn up from time to time.)

Another vote for Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Also, Agent Carter is terrific, and The Flash is quite charming. Jessica Jones on Netflix is extremely dark but very well done. Over on Amazon Prime, Justified is well worth watching.

If you are thinking about HBO Now for Game of Thrones, be advised that episodes of their shows don't expire...so if you wait a few weeks into the new season, you can pay for one month (or get it free, if you've never subscribed) and then watch all the episodes of Game of Thrones for the cost of one month of service. I mention this only because I wished I had thought of it last spring...

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« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2016, 08:46:39 PM »
Homeland

House of cards

I am amazed that these two show have not jumped the shark after 4 seasons. The 4th season of Hmeland was gripping. I amwaiting to see if Orange is the New Black will be qs good in sewson 3 as in prefious seasons, amd I am guessing no.

Fargo

Another vote for Ray Donovan

There are many acceptable shows on British tv, PBS is always showing new ones. While the last ones have not been steller (the one set n India and others) they have been ok. Ones such as Call the Midwife and wolf Hall were decent.


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« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2016, 12:53:06 AM »
For those without cable, I found that the first 5 episodes of the Expanse is free online at SYFY

right here: http://www.syfy.com/theexpanse/episodes

Tonight I recorded the Story of God With Morgan Freeman and look forward to watching it later. There is something about Morgan Freeman. I just like that guy.

I did watch Jessica Jones a little ways back-- that was good. I also watched the first two seasons of House of Cards but the third lost me in a couple of episodes.

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« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2016, 10:30:44 AM »
Orphan Black is really good.
Just finished Season 2 of DareDevil.  I liked it.
Misfits on BBC.  The first couple of seasons at least.   Iwan Rheon from GOT is in it.
Black Mirror
Rectify


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« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2016, 10:54:49 AM »
Current ongoing shows:
1. Better Call Saul (AMC - available on Amazon Video)
2. Game of Thrones (HBO - available on HBO Now)
3. The Man in the High Castle (Amazon Prime)
4. Orange is the New Black (Netflix)

Past shows of particular merit:
Breaking Bad
The Wire
Community
Dexter (seasons 1-4)
House, MD
Arrested Development
The Simpsons

And luckily, we now live in an age where all of the above (except maybe The Simpsons) can be sourced cheaply online legally and ad-free without paying for cable or other horseshit.

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« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2016, 12:41:45 PM »
I think I just figured out what happens with Jon Snow. It's been setup slowly over the books.

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« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2016, 01:25:37 PM »
I think I just figured out what happens with Jon Snow. It's been setup slowly over the books.

My hypothesis. Spoilers, sort of.

Spoiler: show
Jon Snow is the bastard child of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen. When Lyanna Stark was killed, Eddard Stark claimed the kid as his own to protect him. It explains how the right honourable Eddard Stark managed to come home with a bastard child. And it's an interesting twist on the 'seed is strong' quote of Jon Arryn. It could point to why Cersie's children are blond, but it could also explain why Jon Snow has dark hair and eyes, despite being a Targaryne. I suspect Jon Snow will become the third dragon rider, along with Daenerys and that Targaryen boy wandering around in the wilderness.

Probably someone on the internet has also arrived at the same conclusion, and done a better job of deduction. But this is my pet theory, that I arrived at all on my own. I'm usually terrible at interpreting foreshadowing, so I'm quite proud of myself.
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« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2016, 01:49:17 PM »
I think I just figured out what happens with Jon Snow. It's been setup slowly over the books.

My hypothesis. Spoilers, sort of.

Spoiler: show

Jon Snow is the bastard child of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen. When Lyanna Stark was killed, Eddard Stark claimed the kid as his own to protect him. It explains how the right honourable Eddard Stark managed to come home with a bastard child. And it's an interesting twist on the 'seed is strong' quote of Jon Arryn. It could point to why Cersie's children are blond, but it could also explain why Jon Snow has dark hair and eyes, despite being a Targaryne. I suspect Jon Snow will become the third dragon rider, along with Daenerys and that Targaryen boy wandering around in the wilderness.

Probably someone on the internet has also arrived at the same conclusion, and done a better job of deduction. But this is my pet theory, that I arrived at all on my own. I'm usually terrible at interpreting foreshadowing, so I'm quite proud of myself.


I wrapped it in spoiler tags. Suggest you do the same for your post. Here's what I was thinking:

Spoiler: show

Very similar. I think Eddard's promise at Lyanna's deathbed was to not let anyone know whose kid Jon was. And I think Jon's milk brother, Edric Dayne (they both nursed on Wylla, who Eddard pretends was the mom), and who was Beric Dondarion's squire and kept bringing Beric back to life, shows up at the Wall soon and brings Jon back to life. So I guess Jon and Daenaerys get married at some point. Jon is the Ice and she is the Fire that the Song of Ice and Fire is about.

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« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2016, 01:56:48 PM »
Thanks man, forgot about those spoiler tags.

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« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2016, 02:01:35 PM »
Some of my favorites from Netflix, in the order in which I like them, although I think they’re all great
Prison Break
Firefly (sadly not many episodes)
Psych
That 70s Show
Arrow
The Office
Supernatural
Freaks and Geeks (sadly not many episodes)
Metalocalypse (have to be into metal and vulgarity to like this one)
Dexter

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« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2016, 02:36:18 PM »
I think I just figured out what happens with Jon Snow. It's been setup slowly over the books.

My hypothesis. Spoilers, sort of.

Spoiler: show

Jon Snow is the bastard child of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen. When Lyanna Stark was killed, Eddard Stark claimed the kid as his own to protect him. It explains how the right honourable Eddard Stark managed to come home with a bastard child. And it's an interesting twist on the 'seed is strong' quote of Jon Arryn. It could point to why Cersie's children are blond, but it could also explain why Jon Snow has dark hair and eyes, despite being a Targaryne. I suspect Jon Snow will become the third dragon rider, along with Daenerys and that Targaryen boy wandering around in the wilderness.

Probably someone on the internet has also arrived at the same conclusion, and done a better job of deduction. But this is my pet theory, that I arrived at all on my own. I'm usually terrible at interpreting foreshadowing, so I'm quite proud of myself.


I wrapped it in spoiler tags. Suggest you do the same for your post. Here's what I was thinking:

Spoiler: show

Very similar. I think Eddard's promise at Lyanna's deathbed was to not let anyone know whose kid Jon was. And I think Jon's milk brother, Edric Dayne (they both nursed on Wylla, who Eddard pretends was the mom), and who was Beric Dondarion's squire and kept bringing Beric back to life, shows up at the Wall soon and brings Jon back to life. So I guess Jon and Daenaerys get married at some point. Jon is the Ice and she is the Fire that the Song of Ice and Fire is about.


Spoiler: show
R+L = J is all but confirmed, and he wouldn't be a bastard if they were married in front of a Heart Tree, like on the Isle of Faces during the tourney at Harrenhal. I'm hoping that Meera Reed is his twin sister (they are the same age and look alike), but it's a long shot. I believe Aegon (aka Young Griff) to be a fake, probably a Blackfyre through the female line that's been propped up by Illyrio and Varys. I don't know about the Edric part, but I'm sure Jon will be rezzed at the wall, either by Mel sacrificing Shireen or Lady Stoneheart showing up and giving up her undead life for him. Jon and Dany seem destined to get together.

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« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2016, 04:55:11 PM »
I think I just figured out what happens with Jon Snow. It's been setup slowly over the books.

My hypothesis. Spoilers, sort of.

Spoiler: show

Jon Snow is the bastard child of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen. When Lyanna Stark was killed, Eddard Stark claimed the kid as his own to protect him. It explains how the right honourable Eddard Stark managed to come home with a bastard child. And it's an interesting twist on the 'seed is strong' quote of Jon Arryn. It could point to why Cersie's children are blond, but it could also explain why Jon Snow has dark hair and eyes, despite being a Targaryne. I suspect Jon Snow will become the third dragon rider, along with Daenerys and that Targaryen boy wandering around in the wilderness.

Probably someone on the internet has also arrived at the same conclusion, and done a better job of deduction. But this is my pet theory, that I arrived at all on my own. I'm usually terrible at interpreting foreshadowing, so I'm quite proud of myself.


I wrapped it in spoiler tags. Suggest you do the same for your post. Here's what I was thinking:

Spoiler: show

Very similar. I think Eddard's promise at Lyanna's deathbed was to not let anyone know whose kid Jon was. And I think Jon's milk brother, Edric Dayne (they both nursed on Wylla, who Eddard pretends was the mom), and who was Beric Dondarion's squire and kept bringing Beric back to life, shows up at the Wall soon and brings Jon back to life. So I guess Jon and Daenaerys get married at some point. Jon is the Ice and she is the Fire that the Song of Ice and Fire is about.


Spoiler: show
R+L = J is all but confirmed, and he wouldn't be a bastard if they were married in front of a Heart Tree, like on the Isle of Faces during the tourney at Harrenhal. I'm hoping that Meera Reed is his twin sister (they are the same age and look alike), but it's a long shot. I believe Aegon (aka Young Griff) to be a fake, probably a Blackfyre through the female line that's been propped up by Illyrio and Varys. I don't know about the Edric part, but I'm sure Jon will be rezzed at the wall, either by Mel sacrificing Shireen or Lady Stoneheart showing up and giving up her undead life for him. Jon and Dany seem destined to get together.

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It can't be Shireen (on the show at least). That ship has sailed. It's weird how they've diverged from the books, but it lets you know some things that can't be what happens.

It's great that I read 5500 or so pages and never had these thoughts before today and then find out it's already been long confirmed by others.

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« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2016, 05:02:41 PM »
Well, I don't have anything to say as far as Jon Snow, but I do have a question about "Lost." Is it really that great? I'm watching season 1 on Netflix, and am about half way through. I know it is supposed to be one of the greatest shows of all time...is it really? Should I keep going? I don't hate it, but so far, since I limit my screen time, I'm not sure it's worth it to binge-watch all of it...which is what I'll do if people recommend it. It seems kind of meh.

Now, "Expanse". Wow, just wow. I've seen the first episode, and I'm totally into it.

"Dark Matter" I'm not sure about. I think I need to just hang in there...maybe it gets better later on. Interesting premise, but I can't remember who is which number. Wish they had names instead of numbers.

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« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2016, 06:21:26 PM »
Well, I don't have anything to say as far as Jon Snow, but I do have a question about "Lost." Is it really that great? I'm watching season 1 on Netflix, and am about half way through. I know it is supposed to be one of the greatest shows of all time...is it really? Should I keep going? I don't hate it, but so far, since I limit my screen time, I'm not sure it's worth it to binge-watch all of it...which is what I'll do if people recommend it. It seems kind of meh.

I started a few years late, then got into it and binge watched the first handful of seasons and then watched along with the air dates for the rest. I was pretty angry after the last episode. The idea was cool for the first few seasons, and it really seemed like it was going to be going somewhere really cool. But
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for it to just end like there was some kind of religious thing that was causing it was such a stupid and useless ending.
I feel like I wasted most of that time. I will probably not get into The Leftovers because the guy doing that show is the same as the Lost guy and the book only took them through the first season, so it's all Lindeloff from there.

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« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2016, 10:01:15 PM »
I think I just figured out what happens with Jon Snow. It's been setup slowly over the books.

My hypothesis. Spoilers, sort of.

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Jon Snow is the bastard child of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen. When Lyanna Stark was killed, Eddard Stark claimed the kid as his own to protect him. It explains how the right honourable Eddard Stark managed to come home with a bastard child. And it's an interesting twist on the 'seed is strong' quote of Jon Arryn. It could point to why Cersie's children are blond, but it could also explain why Jon Snow has dark hair and eyes, despite being a Targaryne. I suspect Jon Snow will become the third dragon rider, along with Daenerys and that Targaryen boy wandering around in the wilderness.

Probably someone on the internet has also arrived at the same conclusion, and done a better job of deduction. But this is my pet theory, that I arrived at all on my own. I'm usually terrible at interpreting foreshadowing, so I'm quite proud of myself.


I wrapped it in spoiler tags. Suggest you do the same for your post. Here's what I was thinking:

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Very similar. I think Eddard's promise at Lyanna's deathbed was to not let anyone know whose kid Jon was. And I think Jon's milk brother, Edric Dayne (they both nursed on Wylla, who Eddard pretends was the mom), and who was Beric Dondarion's squire and kept bringing Beric back to life, shows up at the Wall soon and brings Jon back to life. So I guess Jon and Daenaerys get married at some point. Jon is the Ice and she is the Fire that the Song of Ice and Fire is about.


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R+L = J is all but confirmed, and he wouldn't be a bastard if they were married in front of a Heart Tree, like on the Isle of Faces during the tourney at Harrenhal. I'm hoping that Meera Reed is his twin sister (they are the same age and look alike), but it's a long shot. I believe Aegon (aka Young Griff) to be a fake, probably a Blackfyre through the female line that's been propped up by Illyrio and Varys. I don't know about the Edric part, but I'm sure Jon will be rezzed at the wall, either by Mel sacrificing Shireen or Lady Stoneheart showing up and giving up her undead life for him. Jon and Dany seem destined to get together.

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It can't be Shireen (on the show at least). That ship has sailed. It's weird how they've diverged from the books, but it lets you know some things that can't be what happens.

It's great that I read 5500 or so pages and never had these thoughts before today and then find out it's already been long confirmed by others.


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My wife has several theories for Jon Snow:

1. 
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Jon is the son of his Uncle Benjin (the ranger that disappeared). He had taken the black and needed his son taken care of and kept secret to he would not be killed.


2.
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Jon is the original son of Cersea and Robert. He did not die and was kept alive away in secret for some unknown reason.


3.
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R+L=J


for a weird twist I will add:
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maybe Jon is Eddard's son and it was with Cersea before she hooked up with Robert so they faked his death before the truth was known--- Boom!!

I just realised that last one wouldn't work for a couple of reasons but the idea was fun



The Left Overs


Lost lost me the last 2 seasons. It did get really weird. The Leftovers will only have 3 seasons. The first two were great. Very original and a Lost feel to it all.

The Expanse

I can't even begin to say how underrated this show is. I don't think people are even aware that SYFY can produce a show of this caliber. I know they are making another season for Jan 2017 but really hope it is fully discovered so it can carry on to completion. I think it is right up there with Game of Thrones, and the Walking Dead.

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« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2016, 10:52:48 PM »
Books.

Then you can read Game of Thrones, the Expanse, and the Left Overs. The Walking Dead is in graphic novel or comic form but you can get it on paper as well. Imagine that. You are out of luck with American Ninja Warrior-- TV only.

Whenever I hear people gushing about a TV show, I check to see if it's based on novels.  Many times it is--that's how I read "Wolf Hall" and "A Song of Ice and Fire" ("Game of Thrones" is the name of the first book).  I'd read the "Outlander" books long before the series came along.  And since the obsession with zombies bore me, I'll skip "The Walking Dead," thanks.  :D

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« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2016, 10:56:30 PM »
I need to finish read the Game of Thrones books, I started reading them digitally about a year ago

Fav TV shows that I watched in the last year or so(Sling, Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, in no particular order)

Sense8
True Detective
Burn Notice
Game of Thrones
Better Call Saul
Walking Dead
Mr. Robot(I hope this comes to Hulu/Amazon, something)
Jessica Jones
Daredevil
Tudors
Sopranos
Reign
Walking Dead
Breaking Bad

Used to watch Arrow but kinda got bored with it

I should read more
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« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2016, 09:28:12 AM »
Well, I don't have anything to say as far as Jon Snow, but I do have a question about "Lost." Is it really that great? I'm watching season 1 on Netflix, and am about half way through. I know it is supposed to be one of the greatest shows of all time...is it really? Should I keep going? I don't hate it, but so far, since I limit my screen time, I'm not sure it's worth it to binge-watch all of it...which is what I'll do if people recommend it. It seems kind of meh.

Now, "Expanse". Wow, just wow. I've seen the first episode, and I'm totally into it.

"Dark Matter" I'm not sure about. I think I need to just hang in there...maybe it gets better later on. Interesting premise, but I can't remember who is which number. Wish they had names instead of numbers.

Lost was a trip for us, DH and me. While there was a lot of pointless running around in the rain forest that I found boring, I did enjoy the pseudo science. I even liked the time jumping, and especially liked the village parts.

So,yeah, if youmlike sci fi you will prob like Lost.

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« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2016, 12:13:37 PM »
Well, I don't have anything to say as far as Jon Snow, but I do have a question about "Lost." Is it really that great? I'm watching season 1 on Netflix, and am about half way through. I know it is supposed to be one of the greatest shows of all time...is it really? Should I keep going? I don't hate it, but so far, since I limit my screen time, I'm not sure it's worth it to binge-watch all of it...which is what I'll do if people recommend it. It seems kind of meh.

Now, "Expanse". Wow, just wow. I've seen the first episode, and I'm totally into it.

"Dark Matter" I'm not sure about. I think I need to just hang in there...maybe it gets better later on. Interesting premise, but I can't remember who is which number. Wish they had names instead of numbers.

"Lost" is like cilantro--if it's your thing, you'll love it, but it's not for everyone. There is so much great TV out there now that I wouldn't waste time on something that's not grabbing you. Lost was a brand-new type of television when it aired and the creators were learning to do it as they were doing it, so the series definitely has some flaws--partly because for a long time they didn't know how long the series was going to go, so they didn't know how fast or slow to advance the plot. That said, I actually liked the middle seasons best. It took them awhile to learn how to introduce new characters after the initial cast--the first batch didn't really work out, but later some of the best characters of the series came along--and those characters really enlivened things. I also didn't care for where the series ended up...but there were lot of great, memorable moments along the way.

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« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2016, 02:49:25 PM »
I know it's a little older and no longer on TV, but no one has mentioned Deadwood? It is, hands down, my favorite show of all time.

The style of language takes some getting used to - it's like frontiersman Shakespeare with a hefty dose of swearing. Ian McShane is a force of nature and watching it just to see him is worth it. The fact that all the other actors are superb as well is just icing on the cake.

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« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2016, 05:05:37 PM »
OK, more GOT theories. Not exactly what I was suggesting, but I kinda buy these.


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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2016, 05:02:22 AM »
Well, I don't have anything to say as far as Jon Snow, but I do have a question about "Lost." Is it really that great? I'm watching season 1 on Netflix, and am about half way through. I know it is supposed to be one of the greatest shows of all time...is it really? Should I keep going? I don't hate it, but so far, since I limit my screen time, I'm not sure it's worth it to binge-watch all of it...which is what I'll do if people recommend it. It seems kind of meh.

Now, "Expanse". Wow, just wow. I've seen the first episode, and I'm totally into it.

"Dark Matter" I'm not sure about. I think I need to just hang in there...maybe it gets better later on. Interesting premise, but I can't remember who is which number. Wish they had names instead of numbers.

"Lost" is like cilantro--if it's your thing, you'll love it, but it's not for everyone. There is so much great TV out there now that I wouldn't waste time on something that's not grabbing you. Lost was a brand-new type of television when it aired and the creators were learning to do it as they were doing it, so the series definitely has some flaws--partly because for a long time they didn't know how long the series was going to go, so they didn't know how fast or slow to advance the plot. That said, I actually liked the middle seasons best. It took them awhile to learn how to introduce new characters after the initial cast--the first batch didn't really work out, but later some of the best characters of the series came along--and those characters really enlivened things. I also didn't care for where the series ended up...but there were lot of great, memorable moments along the way.

Thanks for the good information. At the moment, I'm totally engrossed in the "The Expanse" universe--just ordered the first book from 'Zon, and plan to read all six, if they are as engrossing as the TV show. I might watch "Lost" just for completion--so I could discuss it with people at dinner, or something like that. I don't know--I have so little time for TV--books work much better for me.

 

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