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US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« on: January 14, 2016, 02:57:30 PM »
What US address does one use when traveling/living abroad for say 2 years?
I am currently an apartment renter and do not have the option to use the US address of friends or relatives.
Would I even need it?


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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2016, 03:08:13 PM »
I don't have direct experience with this, but search sites that give information for full time RV-ing. People that are living in RVs also have an issue with a physical address. I believe there are companies that can act as your mailbox. Some have services where they can scan any important documents to you. My aunt and uncle lived on a sailboat for 5-6 years in the Caribbean and used a service like this.

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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 04:55:06 PM »
Here's a great organization geared for RVers -
https://www.escapees.com/support/domicile-options

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 10:51:57 PM »
We're full-time RVers and use My Dakota Address. I'm sure a full-time traveler could use them as well.

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 02:40:00 AM »
Long term sailors have the same need and there are a number of services to address (sorry) it. A popular one with cruisers is St Brendans Isle in florida which will happily be your full time residence.

https://www.sbimailservice.com

Remember it's worth establishing your residence in a location with no state or local income tax

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2016, 06:11:37 AM »
How interesting!
Thanks!

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2016, 03:11:49 PM »
Which of the 3 states (Texas, South Dakota or Florida) would it be better to pay minimal taxes?


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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2016, 07:06:16 PM »
Which of the 3 states (Texas, South Dakota or Florida) would it be better to pay minimal taxes?

All three have no state taxes, so it is your choice.  I am also considering where I want to buy health insurance in as a factor to consider, so have added two other no-state-tax locations into the mix:  Washington and Nevada.  Right now I am favoring Washington state, now need to find an RV or sailing forwarding service there.

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2016, 03:16:11 PM »
I used the UPS Store in Lacey, WA for my address when I lived in Central America.  I had a box there when I lived in the area, and just kept it.  That section of WA doesn't (or at least didn't) require vehicle emissions testing, so I could renew my vehicle plates via mail as well.  They are nice folks there as well.


1420 Marvin Rd NE, Lacey, WA 98516   



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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2018, 03:05:46 PM »
Bumping this.  I'm looking at retirement around April 2019 and am planning to be nomadic for awhile (combo of international, North American via camper van, and visiting with family in the USA).

I've done quite a bit of research and now heavily leaning towards one of the mail services in South Dakota.  I'm currently in Washington state and had a friend that I thought might take my mail for me but thinking about the savings on only car insurance and licensing fees will pay for the mail services.

Other perk: mail service is only 4 hour drive from where my family lives. 

Any advice in setting this up?  Anything you'd do differently?




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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2018, 03:09:44 PM »
Traveling Mailbox is the service we use (www.travelingmailbox.com).

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2018, 03:31:14 PM »
I've been very happy with Escapees mail service.

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2018, 03:48:44 PM »
We just started Escapee mail service about a week ago, and we changed our address with Ally Bank to our Escapee address.  The next day they called us because the Escapee address did not qualify as a permanent address, but said that we could still use the Escapee address as long as we also provided a next-of-kin address.  So that's what we did, we gave them my parents address.  We changed our address with Schwab Bank on Saturday, and so far we haven't been contacted by them to say it's a problem (but it's only been two days).

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2018, 05:19:15 PM »
For those with Escapee, what state did you use?  Why?

My biggest ? now is healthcare - I was just reading some stuff that South Dakota is awful for choice if you don't actually live in SD.  Also looking at Ministries or the Geo Blue since I'll be abroad much of the time (although this is not ACA, nor an allowed exemption unless out of the US 330+ days).


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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2018, 07:25:44 PM »
For Escapees your mailing address is Texas.  But you also have the option to choose a domicile (physical address) in Florida or South Dakota, in which case you will have two addresses, one in Texas and one in your chosen domicile state.  So the three options are:

1) Texas address only
2) Florida and Texas addresses
3) South Dakota and Texas addresses

The cost of the three options is the same as long as your mail is sent to Texas, otherwise you have to pay $1 extra per envelope if mail is sent to either Florida or South Dakota (because they then forward to Texas).

We decided to go with the Florida and Texas option.  We currently live in North Carolina, so it's much easier for us to go to Florida to get our driver's licenses than it would be to go all the way to Texas.  (We are also good friends with Minnie and Mickey, and by being Florida residents we get discounts on park tickets).  Once we get our driver's licenses in Florida and move out of North Carolina, we will no longer have to pay state taxes.  Other reasons you might choose one of the three states over the other two is for vehicle insurance rates, vehicle registration costs and inspection requirements, and health insurance rates.

We just started using Escapees and are new to this, so please double check this information and forgive me if I stated something that is incorrect.  When you call them they are always friendly and helpful.  We are going down at the end of the month to get our driver's license, library card, and register to vote.

Another option is St. Brendan's Isle in Florida, which is similar to Escapees but only have an office in Florida.

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2018, 07:28:25 PM »
Thanks. 

I'm leaning towards the South Dakota option heavily because my parents and siblings live only about 4 hours from 2 of the mail place options.  Just wondering if any one has some compelling reason I should choose a different state.

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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2018, 02:42:04 AM »
Although this doesn't fulfill the OP's needs, I thought I would throw this out there since some recent posters do have strategically-located family:  We moved internationally this year.  I happen to have in-laws in Texas, and we just use their address.  We have moved every one of our regular correspondents to online billing / communication, so they occasionally get government mail for us, which we have forwarded monthly.  Any bills get paid via online bill pay, and any checks we get will (eventually) be electronically deposited.  The USPS has an "informed delivery" service which scans the outer envelope of everything, so we know what we're getting, and if something is urgent / out of normal.

I looked at the forwarding services, but piecing it together ourselves seems to be working OK, too.

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2018, 11:59:03 AM »
Although this doesn't fulfill the OP's needs, I thought I would throw this out there since some recent posters do have strategically-located family:  We moved internationally this year.  I happen to have in-laws in Texas, and we just use their address.  We have moved every one of our regular correspondents to online billing / communication, so they occasionally get government mail for us, which we have forwarded monthly.  Any bills get paid via online bill pay, and any checks we get will (eventually) be electronically deposited.  The USPS has an "informed delivery" service which scans the outer envelope of everything, so we know what we're getting, and if something is urgent / out of normal.

I looked at the forwarding services, but piecing it together ourselves seems to be working OK, too.

It would be great to have that option.   My family lives in Minnesota and the last time I went abroad for a couple years and "moved" to their address, the MN tax man came after me.  Since I have deferred tax accounts, I'm expecting somewhere in the range of 35K per year "income" so the no income tax state is super important. 

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2018, 07:12:35 PM »
I'm literally sitting in my motel room right now establishing residency in South Dakota.

It's so freaking easy with Americas Mailbox.

step 1 - Show up to their office and spend about an hour doing some paperwork and learning about their mail forwarding service. Take the receipt showing your new address.
step 2 - Spend one night in South Dakota, and have whomever put your new address on the lodging receipt.
step 3 - The next morning, go to the DMV with your AM and lodging receipt and get a South Dakota license. Stop by AM to get them a photocopy of your new license.
step 4 - Come back in five years to renew your license. Otherwise, your presence in the state is not required.

Highly recommended.

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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2018, 07:41:16 PM »
I'm literally sitting in my motel room right now establishing residency in South Dakota.

It's so freaking easy with Americas Mailbox.

step 1 - Show up to their office and spend about an hour doing some paperwork and learning about their mail forwarding service. Take the receipt showing your new address.
step 2 - Spend one night in South Dakota, and have whomever put your new address on the lodging receipt.
step 3 - The next morning, go to the DMV with your AM and lodging receipt and get a South Dakota license. Stop by AM to get them a photocopy of your new license.
step 4 - Come back in five years to renew your license. Otherwise, your presence in the state is not required.

Highly recommended.
It's a nice hack, but couldn't you just do something similar in Florida? Just snorkel in the keys for a month or something. If you have to go back every now and then to renew your license and other paperwork, why not make it close to a major international hub like MIA or DFW?

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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2018, 07:14:58 AM »
Here's a new step-by-step on getting residency in Florida. Easier to get to than S. Dakota and a lot warmer :-)

https://winnieviews.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-to-move-to-florida-in-1-hour.html

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2018, 12:27:45 PM »
I'm literally sitting in my motel room right now establishing residency in South Dakota.

It's so freaking easy with Americas Mailbox.

step 1 - Show up to their office and spend about an hour doing some paperwork and learning about their mail forwarding service. Take the receipt showing your new address.
step 2 - Spend one night in South Dakota, and have whomever put your new address on the lodging receipt.
step 3 - The next morning, go to the DMV with your AM and lodging receipt and get a South Dakota license. Stop by AM to get them a photocopy of your new license.
step 4 - Come back in five years to renew your license. Otherwise, your presence in the state is not required.

Highly recommended.

Here's a new step-by-step on getting residency in Florida. Easier to get to than S. Dakota and a lot warmer :-)

https://winnieviews.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-to-move-to-florida-in-1-hour.html

There's 2 out of 3. Anyone have instructions or a link to how to establish residency in TX?

Of course, any other no income tax states anyone is familiar with would be interesting too.

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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2018, 12:38:32 PM »
Washington: you need to prove that you live at the address with a utility bill or bank statement, so probably not interesting unless you already live in the state, or park an RV there for a couple of months. Interestingly, when I moved there the DMV clerk didn't give a shit, I just verbally gave my address and that was good enough for him.

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Re: US Address (Renter) during extended living/traveling overseas
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2018, 04:25:01 PM »

There's 2 out of 3. Anyone have instructions or a link to how to establish residency in TX?

Of course, any other no income tax states anyone is familiar with would be interesting too.

Terrific information on the Escapees site about domiciling in Texas, South Dakota, or Florida:
https://www.escapees.com/education/domicile/

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How does this change voter registration? Do you have to register with your new  address?

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How does this change voter registration? Do you have to register with your new  address?

OK, never mind. I think this varies by state. From my research (google! ;) ) I found that WA state will allow you to have a different mailing address than permanent address and this can be used for temporary moves. You also have to register separately for "Snowbird" status if you're going to be out of the country.

Also, now is a good time to double check that your voter registration is active. Deadline for WA state is Oct 8th. My partner's was surprisingly "inactive" and we're not sure why. Fixed now!