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Re: Serious "one more year" syndrome - advice appreciated
« Reply #200 on: September 21, 2020, 08:26:53 AM »
I was just looking for a ďsafeĒish place to vent and chose here. Please feel free to ignore me and move on now. This post is pretty pointless,

I am not sure if I have OMY syndrome but my inability to calmly move toward FIRE is an illness of some kind for sure.

Todayís drama.....

It has been on the radar for a month or so, but it came up again at work again today. I am in pole position to get a very big promotion.... and meanwhile I am going to FIRE this year.

I really want to FIRE, but have this nagging feeling that I should take the promotion to crown my career. 🤴 The promotion would take my career to a height I never imagined possible, nor aspired to achieve.

If I landed the job Iíd feel good very about what Iíd achieved and the extra money in the stash will be used for certain. DW thinks I should take on the challenge of the appointment. She thinks Iíd relish with the pressure and challenges that Iíll face.....

On the other hand I want to FIRE and Iíve saved hard to get to the point where I can. Iíve been chipping away for years to get to this point. At 48 I am not so young, and want to make the absolute most of the next 20 years, and sitting in an office isnít what I spend my nights dreaming about.

There are many pros and cons for either next step which I couldnít be bothered writing here, but I really really hope I donít get the job because I really fear that if offered I will accept the job offer and that will be another 5 years of life life consumed...... 😤

Wow - just read this thread and this was exactly my situation 2 years ago.  Hope you chose well.

An update would be great - it's been more than 6 months, so itchyfeet should be promoted and/or FIREd by now ;)

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Re: Serious "one more year" syndrome - advice appreciated
« Reply #201 on: September 21, 2020, 11:08:31 AM »
I was just looking for a ďsafeĒish place to vent and chose here. Please feel free to ignore me and move on now. This post is pretty pointless,

I am not sure if I have OMY syndrome but my inability to calmly move toward FIRE is an illness of some kind for sure.

Todayís drama.....

It has been on the radar for a month or so, but it came up again at work again today. I am in pole position to get a very big promotion.... and meanwhile I am going to FIRE this year.

I really want to FIRE, but have this nagging feeling that I should take the promotion to crown my career. 🤴 The promotion would take my career to a height I never imagined possible, nor aspired to achieve.

If I landed the job Iíd feel good very about what Iíd achieved and the extra money in the stash will be used for certain. DW thinks I should take on the challenge of the appointment. She thinks Iíd relish with the pressure and challenges that Iíll face.....

On the other hand I want to FIRE and Iíve saved hard to get to the point where I can. Iíve been chipping away for years to get to this point. At 48 I am not so young, and want to make the absolute most of the next 20 years, and sitting in an office isnít what I spend my nights dreaming about.

There are many pros and cons for either next step which I couldnít be bothered writing here, but I really really hope I donít get the job because I really fear that if offered I will accept the job offer and that will be another 5 years of life life consumed...... 😤

Wow - just read this thread and this was exactly my situation 2 years ago.  Hope you chose well.

An update would be great - it's been more than 6 months, so itchyfeet should be promoted and/or FIREd by now ;)

On the 2020 cohort thread, itchyfeet is listed as having accepted a new job, so perhaps they took the promotion?

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Re: Serious "one more year" syndrome - advice appreciated
« Reply #202 on: September 21, 2020, 03:12:31 PM »
OP OMY are you still happy with the decision to fire in light of Covid? Like itchyfeet I have a promotion coming also, and am slogging out OMY, have to decide soon. I re read your thread OMY, I do remember this thread from back in the day. I hope I dont keep slogging away at my job out of fear.
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Re: Serious "one more year" syndrome - advice appreciated
« Reply #203 on: September 21, 2020, 04:26:55 PM »
I seriously had excellent timing getting my big promotion a year ago. 20% raise, and fulltime WFH since March (old position would still be going in most of the time) - and the boost to (eventual) pension value will mean I can walk away in ~2 years, presuming the markets are at least flat.

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« Reply #204 on: September 22, 2020, 10:04:42 AM »
Wow just read this thread. Lots of good info here.

I'm struggling with this as well. My situation is that I'm in a contract until next October, but I'm bored as hell with the job. Before covid19 I had decided to give notice in January and be out by the end of Q1. But now it just seems silly to go through the drama of leaving early when we could easily be on lockdown again. So I'm leaning towards riding out the virus and adding to the stash in the meantime, but boy oh boy am I bored.

Congrats on breaking free Omy. Sounds like you made the right choice :)

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« Reply #205 on: September 22, 2020, 08:01:04 PM »
I am very happy we FIREd last year. If we had waited until this past March, I have no doubt we would still be working. With the lockdown and the stock market drop we would have slogged it out a bit longer. If we were still working at this point, we'd be telling ourselves we should wait until after we knew the outcome of the election. Then the excuse would be that we should wait until the SCOTUS decision on the ACA. My concerns would have just kept moving the goal post further away every year until we got sick or died.

We finally realized that we had enough money and that we were smart enough to figure out a Plan B if something catastrophic should happen.
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« Reply #206 on: September 23, 2020, 08:23:01 AM »
I am very happy we FIREd last year.

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We finally realized that we had enough money and that we were smart enough to figure out a Plan B if something catastrophic should happen.
This.

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Re: Serious "one more year" syndrome - advice appreciated
« Reply #207 on: November 13, 2020, 06:32:05 AM »
Finally found this thread!  A very interesting read.  So glad you managed to avoid your OMY, OMY, and have been enjoying the fruits of your labours! 

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« Reply #208 on: November 13, 2020, 09:02:42 AM »
Admittedly there were several OMYs before we finally quit (at least 5 "one more years" actually). The plus is that we doubled our net worth in that time which increased our confidence significantly. I regret that we only had about 6 months of goofing off before the pandemic shut us down. We are doing our best to keep our spirits up while significantly limiting our social activities and travel plans.
So far pandemic spending has been WAY less than our projections and we've made good progress in organizing and house maintenance. Looking forward to a post-covid world...but content that we are privileged enough to not have to expose ourselves on a daily basis.

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« Reply #209 on: November 19, 2020, 09:16:29 AM »
I am very happy we FIREd last year. If we had waited until this past March, I have no doubt we would still be working. With the lockdown and the stock market drop we would have slogged it out a bit longer. If we were still working at this point, we'd be telling ourselves we should wait until after we knew the outcome of the election. Then the excuse would be that we should wait until the SCOTUS decision on the ACA. My concerns would have just kept moving the goal post further away every year until we got sick or died.

We finally realized that we had enough money and that we were smart enough to figure out a Plan B if something catastrophic should happen.

Yeah, I think I finally realized at some point that the list of possible catastrophes out there more often end up with me dead rather than broke....so encourage an earlier FIRE, not a later one.

And I have never seen any reason to base the decision off of current health care/tax/political policies etc, in the US at least every 2 years could bring something totally different (or bring things back) and that is just not a significant period of time in my planned retirement.


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« Reply #210 on: November 21, 2020, 08:40:12 AM »
Yes...the Rich, Broke, Dead calculator was an eye opener for me. And DH has always said the same thing about US politics. The other conclusion we came to is that if it's so bad that we're hurting, we will still be in a lot better position than 95% of the population.

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« Reply #211 on: January 02, 2021, 09:53:20 AM »
Happy New Year!

Quick update. We just did our end of year net worth calculations and it was much better than expected. The stock market has been kind to us and our renters have been paying consistently (knock on wood that both continue). We did our first Roth conversion this year since we had so little income that it made sense to get some of our IRA money taxed at the 12% rate.

2021 will be our first year with ACA subsidies (assuming we can keep our MAGI under the cap). Our health insurance costs should be less than a third of what our COBRA costs were. If we have a windfall and MAGI  goes over the cap, our costs will be similar to last year's COBRA...so still manageable.

I'm still bored from being in self-imposed covid jail. Looking forward to getting vaccinated as soon as my turn comes up. Until then I will attempt to be productive at house projects, financial optimization, and health and exercise goals...and lots of binge watching of old tv series.

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« Reply #212 on: January 03, 2021, 02:50:32 AM »
@Omy Thanks for this update - this thread was one of the main influences in hastening my retirement!

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Re: Serious "one more year" syndrome - advice appreciated
« Reply #213 on: January 03, 2021, 06:36:54 AM »
I loved seeing the update OMY.

I end up having similar thoughts on the health insurance, we're married with no kids and either will fill up the 12% tax bracket and pay full price, or let our income be in the range of $65,000 and pickup a tax credit worth around $3,000 towards health insurance.

One neat thing we've figured out is with some self employment income, those premiums become an above the line tax deduction.  We're picking up at least $1,000 in easy gig work to stay active (mainly shopping high dollar Costco orders for Instacart)

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« Reply #214 on: January 03, 2021, 07:48:13 AM »
One neat thing we've figured out is with some self employment income, those premiums become an above the line tax deduction.  We're picking up at least $1,000 in easy gig work to stay active (mainly shopping high dollar Costco orders for Instacart)

Something to keep in mind, the deduction is limited to the amount of the self employment income less the SE tax deduction or the cost of health insurance (whichever is less), so you don't instantly get to deduct the whole cost of health insurance as soon as you have any self employment income.

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« Reply #215 on: January 03, 2021, 09:03:54 AM »
You can also consider contributing (a lot) to a Solo 401k if it looks like your self employed income is going to break through the ACA subsidy cap. It's crazy how much you can contribute to that to reduce MAGI. We are also planning to do some improvements to the rentals in 2021 to help keep us under the subsidy cap.

@Omy Thanks for this update - this thread was one of the main influences in hastening my retirement!

Starting this thread helped me SO much in my FIRE journey. I'm happy that it has helped others as well.

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« Reply #216 on: January 11, 2021, 09:52:53 PM »
Six months since my last check in. We've been mostly isolating for the past 6 months to keep ourselves out of covid-19's grasp. A bit boring since we aren't traveling or socializing as much as we expected. On the plus side, we haven't spent nearly as much as we budgeted and we've completed several home improvement projects. We have also focused on eating better and exercising a lot more.

Our portfolio mostly recovered - our last calculation indicated that we were a bit down from the high in December but that we had more than when we retired last August. So far both tenants have been paying on time and have jobs that are safe for now.

My biggest concern is what might happen to the ACA with the legendary RBG no longer here to save it. DH or I may get a job with health benefits if things get too wonky, but we're not rushing into that just yet. I'm strongly considering taking a complete break from social media and the daily chaos in the news to improve my mood.

Appreciate you sharing so much about your journey. Think ACA will be ok given the current political climate we are entering. Hope things open up soon so you can enjoy your freedom; not meeting up with friends and traveling is a tough one. Once things open up, thatís when we will most likely FIRE. Look forward to hearing how youíre adjusting a year later.

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« Reply #217 on: February 26, 2021, 03:13:19 PM »
Almost 2 months since my last update so I'm checking in. We have been FIREd for 18 months. A year ago we had just come home from a road trip to visit family before the world came to a stop. I had a lot of anxiety in March of 2020 about the stock market, whether our tenants would be able to keep their jobs and keep paying rent, and where I was going to find toilet paper and cheese since the shelves were bare for 2 months and our supply was dwindling. A lot has changed in a year. I woke up this morning feeling optimistic that life might return to normal fairly soon with covid cases falling. I can't wait to be eligible for the vaccine so we can feel confident about traveling and socializing again.

While I've been a bit whiny at times about our self-imposed covid jail, I realize how fortunate we are to live in a lovely home with more than enough space to spread out. We have taken lots of walks and worked on our exercise goals. I was forced to become a MUCH better cook because we never eat out - which has made us healthier and wealthier. Since the pandemic started, we've been donating monthly to a local food pantry because we have so much more than we need.

That's all for now. Thanks for all of your support - this forum has definitely fueled my optimism.
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« Reply #218 on: February 26, 2021, 03:17:54 PM »
That's a lovely update!  So glad you can feel the optimism returning.  I can too (though still fundamentally an anxious person).  It's amazing what scientific awesomeness and some sunshine can do!

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« Reply #219 on: April 09, 2021, 01:25:14 PM »
Just received a lovely letter from the state health exchange. Our subsidy increased by $158 per month and our Gold plan will go down to $229/month for 2 of us. Thank you ACA and The American Rescue Plan!

Also, we received Moderna#1 in mid March (both had sore arms), and we will get Moderna#2 in less than 2 weeks.  We are super excited to start traveling a bit and spending time with family and friends. This past year was not what we had expected from FIRE, but in some ways the isolation has made us appreciate being FIREd even more.
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Re: Serious "one more year" syndrome - advice appreciated
« Reply #220 on: May 07, 2021, 06:00:59 AM »
So finally getting around to checking in.

I took the job!!

Itís been a busy year.

We repatriated to Australia in August and I started my new job.

Things have not gone as planned. I canít say much here due to NDAs but my company is in the midst of being swallowed up by a bigger fish and having bits of it sliced off and fed to the sharks.

The merger with Big Fish Co is going to be a massive project that would keep me very busy for the next 3 years, but also gives me an out, and I have decided to opt out.

I have scratched the itch I had, and now I will be pulling the pin.

I have some golden handcuffs to keep me interested in not resigning before 1 Jan 2022, but on the first working day of 2022 I will hand in my resignation and step out of the shark infested waters and move on with my post fired life.

DW is still not convinced/ ready to FIRE so will keep working for a bit. She is happy to see me test retired life and then decide whatís best for her. She might cut back to 3 or 4 days a week.

I told my parents of my plans and mum said even as a teenager I would tell them I would retire by 50. So she wasnít surprised to hear me confirm retirement at 50.

So no more angst. The future is clear.

I am glad I stepped into the role. I have no regrets. Itís been crazy times this past year with the M&A activity swirling around. The work has been challenging and at time stimulating and rewarding, but I canít honestly say that I feel it is the absolute optimal way to spend the limited hours I have in my life, so I look forward to having more or less complete freedom of choice on what I do with my time from some time early next year... probably April.

Sorry to take so long to give an update.
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Re: Serious "one more year" syndrome - advice appreciated
« Reply #221 on: May 07, 2021, 08:01:33 AM »
@itchyfeet

Gogogogogogogogo!

I've been through huge faceless corporation M&A and S&D before as an accountant.  It is a big messy job.  Few things clearly defined and lots of squishiness.  It can be fun but the long hours and sudden and shifting deadlines can be a hassle. Grats on a golden handcuffs package.  Have your eyes open as termination date approaches.  The acquiring company usually wants to get rid of large numbers of the people it acquired, especially if they are G&A.  You might be able to get a severance package!

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« Reply #222 on: May 07, 2021, 06:24:36 PM »
I tried to negotiate a severance already. Haha. No dice.

I have secured a nice retention bonus if I hang around till Jan, and they offered to increase my notice period to 6 months. That cuts both ways though. Whilst they would have to pay me out 6 months on top of statutory redundancy if punting me, it would also mean that if I want to leave Iíll have to suffer through 6 months after giving notice. I have no interest in that, and given I am almost certain they will have work for me for the next 3 years through the various separations and integration, the 6 months notice is of no interest to me.

Frankly, if they want me gone (which I donít expect in the next 2 years at least ) Iíll take my retention payment, my unpaid bonuses, the 3 months in lieu of notice, a few months redundancy and Iíll be on my way with a fat wallet and a smile.

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Re: Serious "one more year" syndrome - advice appreciated
« Reply #223 on: May 08, 2021, 04:28:32 AM »
Cheering you on from the sideline @itchyfeet!  Go for it!