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« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2020, 12:37:30 PM »
@Omy, that sounds like my version of hell.

Cruise ships are akin to giant shopping malls, and the epitome of waste and gluttony.

I'd love to bicycle around the world. 

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« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2020, 12:51:52 AM »
Coincidentally it adds up to about the same four months of travel but spread out over the whole year. Annual travel budget is now $15k.

We are heading into FIRE with a travel budget of around 25K USD for two of us. I hope it will give us about 90 days of travel a year split into 2 or 3 trips. Maybe one 2 month trip and 2 x 2 week trips. Something like that, maybe.... I am figuring on an average spend of $200 a day and about $7K for flights. We will live in Australia so will spend a lot on flights if we want to spend time in Europe. The $200 a day considers spending more in Europe/ Nth America and less in Asia/ Latin America and will need to cover accom, food, entertainment, land travel etc.

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« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2020, 11:21:49 AM »
@Omy, that sounds like my version of hell.

Cruise ships are akin to giant shopping malls, and the epitome of waste and gluttony.

I'd love to bicycle around the world.
I'm not much for cruising either but a freighter/cargo ship could be a fun and (maybe) low cost way to get to exotic places.

Fully self-contained biking though would be the dream and I follow several solo women's blogs who are doing long term RTW bike touring. Or even just biking unencumbered and staying in hostels or AirBNB's or renting in one area for a month or so. I'm looking at more the north to south route (Northern Norway to South Africa, Alaska to the tip of South America, etc). Minimal flying and mostly by feet, bike, bus and train.

 Following your journal and happy to see the dream morph into reality for you. Same with @JoJo blog. Still waiting for @EndlessJourney to chime in. For those who don't know, he and his DH have been on.the...endless journey...all around the world on.their motorcycles for over 7 years now. Their blog is pretty great.

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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2020, 12:53:24 PM »
We have taken 6 cruises and love them. The longest was 3 weeks. Thatís long enough.

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« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2020, 01:39:31 PM »
I bought a new suitcase today! just happened the zipper failed on my other one during my last business trip. But since I'm retiring in a few months I'm getting excited about having a brand new suitcase for my travel adventures.  I'm going to put stickers on it for all the places I visit Post-FIRE. Only 1 trip (to Europe) planned so far, but this thread is good for inspiration. I haven't travelled for more than a month at a time, I think that's my limit but who knows.

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« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2020, 03:55:02 PM »
We have taken 6 cruises and love them. The longest was 3 weeks. Thatís long enough.

I've taken 3 (all with extended family) and it's been a lot of fun. None have been longer than 7 days, so I need to try a 3 or 4 week cruise before committing to RTW.

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« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2020, 04:39:04 PM »
Omg, ours was a repositioning Cruise so lots of sea days but tons of things which kept us busy. My husband enjoyed being in the choir and taking a acting class. Then at the end of the cruise they all performed. There was also a mystery to solve and you did it in groups of 8 people.  It was really challenging with the clues they gave.

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« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2020, 04:57:30 PM »
We have taken 6 cruises and love them. The longest was 3 weeks. That’s long enough.

I've taken 3 (all with extended family) and it's been a lot of fun. None have been longer than 7 days, so I need to try a 3 or 4 week cruise before committing to RTW.
While I don't have any interest in doing any cruising I was curious how much they cost and where they went. They seem to be about 150-200 days around $40k plus per person (yikes). Example: this at around $50k/person. Since my budget is around $1500 - $2000 per month I don't think I will doing that.

https://oceaniacruisesale.com/Itinerary.php?type=1&pid=592&id=1374899
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« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2020, 05:17:56 PM »
I'm currently day dreaming about biking across the US.  I'm thinking I'd head out from my current east coast locale, patch together a few Adventure Cycling routes to make my way cross country.  I'd mostly camp/warm showers/stay with friends or family wherever possible with an occasional motel/hotel if the weather is looking treacherous.  Then the way back would be a leisurely train journey with layovers in a few locations to break it up and see places/people.  Maybe 3.5-4 months all in.

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« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2020, 04:11:02 PM »
Spartans, we have been to Alaska, New England and Canada and various cruises to different Caribbean islands. Our cheapest was a week in the Caribbean for 500 each. But there are many additional charges such as port fees, taxes, gratuities, etc. Then do you need airfare to get to the port. The 3 week cruise had a base price of 3k before everything else added in. We have spent anywhere from 3-8k depending on the destination, deal we find and cost of the airfare.   Caribbean cruises are cheaper and so far Alaska the most expensive.

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« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2020, 06:11:33 PM »
In May, 2018, my family and I enjoyed 7 days on the Hurtigruten Ferry in Norway. It was kind of like a cruise, but the Hurtigruten is also a working ferry. Every day, our ship stopped in several little ports, where we picked up and dropped off vehicles, cargo, and people. Our trip started in Bergen, in the SW, and ended far above the Arctic Circle in the little town of Kirkenes. We paid about US$1500 each for the entire trip, which included 3 delicious meals/day and one of the cheapest rooms for 3. At each port, if there was time, we usually got off and walked around the town or took a short hike up onto a hill overlooking the harbor. Each day, the shipped stopped at one port for 3-4 hours. The other stops were shorter, say, 20 - 30 minutes each. Just like a cruise, the Hurtigruten offers excursions at each of the ports where it stops for a few hours. We never took the excursions, because they were pretty expensive. Didn't find out until the last day of the trip, but the Hurtigruten has bicycles on board that passengers can borrow for free to ride around the towns where the ship makes longer stops. Next time, I'll definitely take advantage of that.

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« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2020, 10:34:46 AM »
I've actually been wondering what it would be like to go to a country and gradually walk a long distance maybe 10 or 20km at a time.  It seems like it would be better in a country that's fairly densely populated where distances between lodging and food is short, like India, Egypt, or the Netherlands. 

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« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2020, 10:49:09 AM »
@Shane  I took a Norwegian ferry over night from Stockholm to Helsinki (then train and buses from there to Narvik, Norway and South on the coast to Oslo). The ferry was great even though I didn't have a cabin and just slept on the deck like the other grungy backpackers, and I thought it would be a wonderful way to see the fjords. Mine was included in my Eurrail pass (as were several other ferry routes) and your experience made me think ferries could be a low key inexpensive way to see and visit some interesting area along a coast.

 My sister took all the ferries in Alaska starting from Bellingham, WA and going as far as Dutch Harbor. She did get off at every port big or small and stay several days at each (tent camping) and slept on deck like many others did even though you could also book cabins when in transit. It wasn't too expensive and she really saw ALOT and took all summer long. She went up there 4 summers in a row (May to Sept) and travelled all around in various ways (including hitchhiking) and didn't spend much. I'd like to do the ferry system in Alaska like that someday.
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« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2020, 10:56:58 AM »
I've actually been wondering what it would be like to go to a country and gradually walk a long distance maybe 10 or 20km at a time.  It seems like it would be better in a country that's fairly densely populated where distances between lodging and food is short, like India, Egypt, or the Netherlands.
Europe has tons of long distance walking paths so check them out. Most are off road but have many overnight options. Look for @arebelspy journal as he and his (pregnant) wife walked the long one in Spain (Camino Santiago I think it's called).

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« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2020, 11:13:15 AM »
In May, 2018, my family and I enjoyed 7 days on the Hurtigruten Ferry in Norway. It was kind of like a cruise, but the Hurtigruten is also a working ferry. Every day, our ship stopped in several little ports, where we picked up and dropped off vehicles, cargo, and people. Our trip started in Bergen, in the SW, and ended far above the Arctic Circle in the little town of Kirkenes. We paid about US$1500 each for the entire trip, which included 3 delicious meals/day and one of the cheapest rooms for 3. At each port, if there was time, we usually got off and walked around the town or took a short hike up onto a hill overlooking the harbor. Each day, the shipped stopped at one port for 3-4 hours. The other stops were shorter, say, 20 - 30 minutes each. Just like a cruise, the Hurtigruten offers excursions at each of the ports where it stops for a few hours. We never took the excursions, because they were pretty expensive. Didn't find out until the last day of the trip, but the Hurtigruten has bicycles on board that passengers can borrow for free to ride around the towns where the ship makes longer stops. Next time, I'll definitely take advantage of that.

We did the Hurtigruten trip once too, but broke it in half with 4 days on the Lofoten islands. We took one ship to Lofoten and then another on to Bergen. Weíd love to do the trip again even more slowly with even more extended stays in places like Trondheim and Andoya

Other awesome boat trips we have done include taking a Dahabiya up the Nile (best way to travel the Nile), cruising the Galapagos and Seychelles in small cruisers, sailing the Kerala backwaters in the very fancy Oberoi floating hotel and sleeping on the poop deck on the ferry through the inside passage to Alaska. All of the trips were really fantastic in their own way.

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« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2020, 12:01:28 PM »
I've actually been wondering what it would be like to go to a country and gradually walk a long distance maybe 10 or 20km at a time.  It seems like it would be better in a country that's fairly densely populated where distances between lodging and food is short, like India, Egypt, or the Netherlands.
Europe has tons of long distance walking paths so check them out. Most are off road but have many overnight options. Look for @arebelspy journal as he and his (pregnant) wife walked the long one in Spain (Camino Santiago I think it's called).

Yeah, I think the Camino de Santiago is a Catholic pilgrimage route, but being as they're well established, maybe major pilgrimage routes might be a good idea even for non-religious folks. 

Now that you mention it, I remember seeing pilgrims in India getting ready to go on a pilgrimage to Sabarimala temple which was over 1000km from where I was at.  Holy smokes!  I just looked it up, and it looks 40-50 million people go a year.  That's like the entire population of California and Arizona all converging on Tucson, many of them walking the entire way barefoot.  That might be an interesting trip.

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« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2020, 12:17:25 PM »
Re: cruising for RTW travel

There are some smoking deals for repositioning cruises that would be awesome for people traveling in pairs (or someone who could find a cruise partner) that wanted to go from continent to continent.  I didn't retire this year but was thinking of it.  Was in South America for an Antarctica cruise in December.  Was thinking about making my way to Brazil for Carnival, then taking a repostitioning cruise to Europe for the spring.

Here are some interesting ones right now>
* Rio to Barcelona, Spain $909 for 17 nights, stopping several stops in Brazil, Canary Islands, Funchal, and Lisbon.
Santiago Chile to Port Canaveral, FL $399 for 15 days including stops in CH, Peru, Costa rica plus a full panama canal transit.
* Cape Town to Singapore $1499 for 24 days, lots of stops in Indian Ocean
* Sydney to LA $1749 for 29 days, stops in NZ, Hawaii, and south pacific islands. 

Even with the tips, you can do these for (sometimes well) under $100 per day, would be a fun way to cross the ocean.




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« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2020, 12:35:40 PM »
Wow 2Birds1Stone, that sounds amazing, though a little tiring/daunting in my head to do all at once. 

I guess that looks like a perfect guideline for me to use over few years (maybe 3 months on one continent per year returning home each time, as I don't like to be rushed traveling, but guess I do really like home). 

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« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2020, 07:42:06 PM »
@Shane  I took a Norwegian ferry over night from Stockholm to Helsinki (then train and buses from there to Narvik, Norway and South on the coast to Oslo). The ferry was great even though I didn't have a cabin and just slept on the deck like the other grungy backpackers, and I thought it would be a wonderful way to see the fjords. Mine was included in my Eurrail pass (as were several other ferry routes) and your experience made me think ferries could be a low key inexpensive way to see and visit some interesting area along a coast.

 My sister took all the ferries in Alaska starting from Bellingham, WA and going as far as Dutch Harbor. She did get off at every port big or small and stay several days at each (tent camping) and slept on deck like many others did even though you could also book cabins when in transit. It wasn't too expensive and she really saw ALOT and took all summer long. She went up there 4 summers in a row (May to Sept) and travelled all around in various ways (including hitchhiking) and didn't spend much. I'd like to do the ferry system in Alaska like that someday.

@spartana The ferry from Bellingham up to Alaska is something I've always thought of doing, as well. Kind of surprisingly to me, though, even sleeping outside on the deck of the ship isn't necessarily the cheapest way to get to Alaska. Last I checked, a plane ticket was actually less $. Obviously, the ferry offers things a plane does not, though. Some day...

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« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2020, 07:55:13 PM »
Re: cruising for RTW travel

There are some smoking deals for repositioning cruises that would be awesome for people traveling in pairs (or someone who could find a cruise partner) that wanted to go from continent to continent.  I didn't retire this year but was thinking of it.  Was in South America for an Antarctica cruise in December.  Was thinking about making my way to Brazil for Carnival, then taking a repostitioning cruise to Europe for the spring.

Here are some interesting ones right now>
* Rio to Barcelona, Spain $909 for 17 nights, stopping several stops in Brazil, Canary Islands, Funchal, and Lisbon.
Santiago Chile to Port Canaveral, FL $399 for 15 days including stops in CH, Peru, Costa rica plus a full panama canal transit.
* Cape Town to Singapore $1499 for 24 days, lots of stops in Indian Ocean
* Sydney to LA $1749 for 29 days, stops in NZ, Hawaii, and south pacific islands. 

Even with the tips, you can do these for (sometimes well) under $100 per day, would be a fun way to cross the ocean.

Repositioning cruises sounds really interesting to me too. Sometimes I search on CruiseSheet to see what's available, but haven't actually taken one yet. It's amazing how cheap some of them are.

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« Reply #70 on: January 28, 2020, 06:43:11 AM »
Cool...sounds interesting to me as well. Thanks for the link.

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« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2020, 11:33:39 AM »
@Shane  I took a Norwegian ferry over night from Stockholm to Helsinki (then train and buses from there to Narvik, Norway and South on the coast to Oslo). The ferry was great even though I didn't have a cabin and just slept on the deck like the other grungy backpackers, and I thought it would be a wonderful way to see the fjords. Mine was included in my Eurrail pass (as were several other ferry routes) and your experience made me think ferries could be a low key inexpensive way to see and visit some interesting area along a coast.

 My sister took all the ferries in Alaska starting from Bellingham, WA and going as far as Dutch Harbor. She did get off at every port big or small and stay several days at each (tent camping) and slept on deck like many others did even though you could also book cabins when in transit. It wasn't too expensive and she really saw ALOT and took all summer long. She went up there 4 summers in a row (May to Sept) and travelled all around in various ways (including hitchhiking) and didn't spend much. I'd like to do the ferry system in Alaska like that someday.

@spartana The ferry from Bellingham up to Alaska is something I've always thought of doing, as well. Kind of surprisingly to me, though, even sleeping outside on the deck of the ship isn't necessarily the cheapest way to get to Alaska. Last I checked, a plane ticket was actually less $. Obviously, the ferry offers things a plane does not, though. Some day...
Not the cheapest but a really good way to see some more remote out of the way places that cruise ships, or flying, don't offer. Having lots of free time too as you often are "stuck" in one place for a few days or a week until the next ferry arrives.

She also hitchhiked thru out the interior one summer (not something I'd recommend for a single female), worked on a small cruise ship another summer, and spend an another summer at my place in Anchorage where we did some local trips and some longer ones when I was off work. I lived there 4 years and never saw or did even a fraction of what she did in her 4 summers there. Guess work kind of messes that kind of thing up ;-).

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« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2020, 11:40:47 AM »
I've actually been wondering what it would be like to go to a country and gradually walk a long distance maybe 10 or 20km at a time.  It seems like it would be better in a country that's fairly densely populated where distances between lodging and food is short, like India, Egypt, or the Netherlands.
Europe has tons of long distance walking paths so check them out. Most are off road but have many overnight options. Look for @arebelspy journal as he and his (pregnant) wife walked the long one in Spain (Camino Santiago I think it's called).

Yeah, I think the Camino de Santiago is a Catholic pilgrimage route, but being as they're well established, maybe major pilgrimage routes might be a good idea even for non-religious folks. 

Now that you mention it, I remember seeing pilgrims in India getting ready to go on a pilgrimage to Sabarimala temple which was over 1000km from where I was at.  Holy smokes!  I just looked it up, and it looks 40-50 million people go a year.  That's like the entire population of California and Arizona all converging on Tucson, many of them walking the entire way barefoot.  That might be an interesting trip.
. Yeah I've read about some of those pilgrimage journeys and they are pretty epic. Lots and lots of non-pilgrimage long distance walking paths in most EUropean countries that have close by lodging and camping along the way. There are even large "walking events" that cover hundreds (thousands?) of miles too. Wikipedia lists a bunch of long distance walking paths and trails. Probably lots more out there.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long-distance_footpaths
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« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2020, 11:56:48 AM »
Yeah I've read about some of those pilgrimage journeys and they are pretty epic. Lots and lots of non-pilgrimage long distance walking paths in most EUropean countries that have close by lodging and camping along the way. There are even large "walking events" that cover hundreds (thousands?) of miles too. Wikipedia lists a bunch of long distance walking paths and trails. Probably lots more out there.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long-distance_footpaths

Honestly I'd prefer walking roads when it's safe.  I definitely like some time with nature and solitude on trails, but I'm honestly more drawn to people watching.  I've gotten into the idea of thinking of sidewalks as trails and hiking across cities the same as you might go hiking in the woods. 

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« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2020, 12:27:49 PM »
A lot of the European ones go thru small towns and cities and have plenty of people watching opportunities. I did the Cirque Terra...something something along the coast of Italy and it went from coast town to coast town etc and was pretty populated. It was fairly short though and could easily be done in a day but a nice example of what some longer walking paths are like. I've done a few others and they are more countryside to towns walking paths than hiking in the remote woods paths. I'd love to do more someday.
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« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2020, 02:48:59 PM »
I got a few brief glimpses of the Cinque Terre from the train years ago, and I really wish I had stopped.  It looked so cool.  I'd like to go some day, but I don't know if it would be irresponsible now given that I've read that those villages are really struggling with overtourism recently.  I'm more fascinated with Asia and Africa anyway.

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« Reply #76 on: February 04, 2020, 07:08:45 PM »
A few years ago we cycled 700+ kms along the Danube from Passau in Germany down to Budapest. We met people who were doing the same trip but walking it rather than riding.

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« Reply #77 on: February 04, 2020, 07:20:24 PM »
We walked sections of the GR 34 route in Brittany and it was a great mix of nature, villages/harbors, ancient sites like standing stones, and cideries. Oh, the cideries: so good and so inexpensive. Hard cider is definitely one of my gazingus pins.

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« Reply #78 on: February 04, 2020, 09:49:49 PM »
A few years ago we cycled 700+ kms along the Danube from Passau in Germany down to Budapest. We met people who were doing the same trip but walking it rather than riding.

An old friend's uncle used to tell stories of when he solo kayaked that route, camping in his tent each night along the banks of the Danube.

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« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2020, 09:03:41 AM »
A few years ago we cycled 700+ kms along the Danube from Passau in Germany down to Budapest. We met people who were doing the same trip but walking it rather than riding.

An old friend's uncle used to tell stories of when he solo kayaked that route, camping in his tent each night along the banks of the Danube.

Weíd love to do it again. Especially the first half to Vienna. If we went again weíd like to do it in a small group with some friends. Nothing better than eating and drinking with friends!! A morning of cycling each days working up an appetite makes the eating and drinking all the more enjoyable

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« Reply #80 on: February 05, 2020, 10:03:35 AM »
I got a few brief glimpses of the Cinque Terre from the train years ago, and I really wish I had stopped.  It looked so cool.  I'd like to go some day, but I don't know if it would be irresponsible now given that I've read that those villages are really struggling with overtourism recently.  I'm more fascinated with Asia and Africa anyway.

I visited Cinque Terre in February (2017) and I met exactly 5 people on the trails. Main tourist source that time was Chinese folks (Lunar NY period) and they don't do the hikes or stay in the towns. Going off season gstill gives you all the options. Weather was also perfect for hiking that time of the year.

Overtourism is certainly an issue there, but mostly in spring/summer months and tour-group based.

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« Reply #81 on: February 05, 2020, 03:10:15 PM »
A few years ago we cycled 700+ kms along the Danube from Passau in Germany down to Budapest. We met people who were doing the same trip but walking it rather than riding.

An old friend's uncle used to tell stories of when he solo kayaked that route, camping in his tent each night along the banks of the Danube.

Weíd love to do it again. Especially the first half to Vienna. If we went again weíd like to do it in a small group with some friends. Nothing better than eating and drinking with friends!! A morning of cycling each days working up an appetite makes the eating and drinking all the more enjoyable

Where did you guys stay at night @itchyfeet ? Tent? Hostel? Hotel? Did you carry a camp stove and cook your own food?

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« Reply #82 on: February 05, 2020, 07:49:55 PM »
We stayed in hotels.

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« Reply #83 on: February 11, 2020, 10:17:55 AM »
I visited Cinque Terre in February (2017) and I met exactly 5 people on the trails. Main tourist source that time was Chinese folks (Lunar NY period) and they don't do the hikes or stay in the towns. Going off season gstill gives you all the options. Weather was also perfect for hiking that time of the year.

Overtourism is certainly an issue there, but mostly in spring/summer months and tour-group based.

Good to know.  I didn't know there was that much of a drop-off in the off season.  I think Italy is also one of the places where winter isn't that bad. 

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« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2020, 10:36:08 AM »
We went to Italy in February and the temperature were between 45-60.  It was still crowded but nothing like summer.

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Re: Round The World trip? How would you do it?
« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2020, 11:45:55 AM »
So, whatís everyone got planned for 2020 in terms of global travel?

For us itíll be a bit less travel compared to recent years as we need to go back to Australia 3 times which will bite our bank balance. Still we have some things planned for the summer.

We will do a driving trip around Transylvania (Romania) with another couple and then we will fly over to Tokyo for the Olympics. We are  really looking forward to both halves of our vacation.

This trio will either be our last vacation as full time employees, or our first post FIRE trip. So doubly exciting.

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« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2020, 11:53:19 AM »
@itchyfeet, I posted at the bottom of the first page in this thread, a detailed breakdown of our upcoming year of travel. This was before the Coronavirus outbreak, so our second leg in SE Asia might have to get changed a bit.

TL;DR: We will be traveling around the world for 12 months, and are taking off in a few short weeks :)

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« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2020, 12:20:17 PM »
@itchyfeet, I posted at the bottom of the first page in this thread, a detailed breakdown of our upcoming year of travel. This was before the Coronavirus outbreak, so our second leg in SE Asia might have to get changed a bit.

TL;DR: We will be traveling around the world for 12 months, and are taking off in a few short weeks :)
My plans also remain unchanged at this moment but who knows?! The original plan was to fly to Stockholm this Spring,  then tour around Europe for about 2 monthsvia rail pass and bike, then return to Stockholm for a month then back to US in end of June.  But I'm thinking I might go longer and go to Africa (never been) and then would leave in late summer instead and go north to south. That's a big maybe though but also a "why not!"
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« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2020, 03:51:26 PM »
My plan for this year assuming retirement by July - Spend August in MN, take my parents on a road trip.  Late August, fly to Copenhagen, do Copenhagen, Stockholm, ferry to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, fly into Minsk (need to fly in and out for VOA) visit Belarus for a couple weeks, Fly to either Lviv or Kyiv, spend some significant time in Ukraine, making way south to Odessa, then Moldova, keep heading south.  My friend will come back to US for Christmas, so I might fly to Tbilisi or Red Sea for a month to stay put for awhile.  He'll fly back and we also want to check out Cypruss, Greece, Lebanon, Egypt (i've been there).  Not sure how good those places will be in the middle of the winter, won't be swimming I guess.   This will put me over 100 countries visited (depending on the flight plan either Estonia or Latvia will be my 100th). 

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« Reply #89 on: February 12, 2020, 04:35:54 PM »
Leaving for Japan in October, then on to KL, Singapore, Raja Ampat, Penang, and Thailand. Back home and to work in February. Turns out a friend is getting married to a Thai woman so we are probably going to a fancy-pants traditional Thai wedding at some point during our sabbatical.

Anyone want to house/cat sit? 85+ acres of wildlife habitat, mountain views, and nearby downhill and cross country skiing opportunities could be yours for the winter! Snowshoeing from the front door is a wonderful thing. :-)




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« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2020, 08:25:53 PM »
@JoJo , was visiting 100 countries something you have been targeting, or mere happenstance?

We have been to 70 something countries (I have counted but canít remember the precise number), and I have wondered whether we will get to 80 something and then, as it is within reach, 100 will become a goal.

I can imagine a scenario with us us never getting to 100, even though we have prob 30 more years of travel left in us, as we donít have a deep need to visit that many places we havenít already been to... I do expect we will stumble over 100, but I am curious to see whether it becomes a goal for us.

From where we are to reach 100 the regions we would prob tick off more countries would be

- Central America/ Caribbean  maybe 12 (as we havenít visited that part of the world)
- Pacific islands.  3 (close to home so we should visit a couple. I havenít even been to Fiji)
- Asia 5 (Japan this year, then Indonesia is prob the only other country we will def go to that we havenít been to already. Itís also probable we will go to Uzbekistan at some point this year).
- Baltics and Balkans  say 7 (I have only been to Serbia so plenty to see in those regions)
- Other 5 (at least Iceland, Morocco, Colombia)

So 100 is certainly likely.... we shall see whether it becomes a goal....

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Re: Round The World trip? How would you do it?
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2020, 09:04:10 PM »
Sounds like we will all meet up in Stockholm.

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« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2020, 09:05:27 PM »
I am going to walk for two weeks the part of the Camino that runs in France (not enough time to do all of the France part sadly). I have heard it is less crowded than the Section that runs through Spain.

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Re: Round The World trip? How would you do it?
« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2020, 09:36:12 PM »
So, whatís everyone got planned for 2020 in terms of global travel?

For us itíll be a bit less travel compared to recent years as we need to go back to Australia 3 times which will bite our bank balance. Still we have some things planned for the summer.

We will do a driving trip around Transylvania (Romania) with another couple and then we will fly over to Tokyo for the Olympics. We are  really looking forward to both halves of our vacation.

This trio will either be our last vacation as full time employees, or our first post FIRE trip. So doubly exciting.
Flooding in New Zealand caused my February trip there to be cancelled, and Iíll visit the Atacama Desert in Chile instead.
Covid-19 caused my April hiking trip to Hunan Province to be cancelled, so Iíll move up my trip to the Baltic States (originally planned for August)
June: Sumatra and Sulawesi
August: Kilimanjaro and Kenya
October: Australia for the T20 World Cup
December: Northern Brazil

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Re: Round The World trip? How would you do it?
« Reply #94 on: February 13, 2020, 11:22:30 AM »
@itchyfeet

I'd like to get to as many countries as possible in my lifetime, but not necessarily all of them.  My passport makes some countries impossible right now.    I thought it would be cool to get to 100 countries by age 50, and it looks like I'll get it a couple years early at 47.

That being said, I'm not really going out of my way to increase my count like some of those "record-breakers" who visited all countries and spent like a day or two in each.  In fact, in 2019 I traveled over 4 months of the year and didn't get any new country count.  (drove to alaska, arctic ocean, montana, and cruised to antarctica with a couple weeks in patagonia (which included stops in Argentina and Chile of which I had already spent some time))


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Re: Round The World trip? How would you do it?
« Reply #95 on: February 13, 2020, 03:27:12 PM »
I'd like to get to as many countries as possible in my lifetime, but not necessarily all of them.  My passport makes some countries impossible right now.    I thought it would be cool to get to 100 countries by age 50, and it looks like I'll get it a couple years early at 47.

That being said, I'm not really going out of my way to increase my count like some of those "record-breakers" who visited all countries and spent like a day or two in each.  In fact, in 2019 I traveled over 4 months of the year and didn't get any new country count.  (drove to alaska, arctic ocean, montana, and cruised to antarctica with a couple weeks in patagonia (which included stops in Argentina and Chile of which I had already spent some time))

It's fun to count countries, but I don't want it actually to affect how I travel.  I took a second trip to Mexico last year instead of checking off a new country.  Maybe I should have gone somewhere new like the Netherlands or Colombia, but there's so much to see in a country like Mexico.  I can't imagine spending a few days in a country, especially one that's so big and diverse, and consider that as having checked the box. 


So, whatís everyone got planned for 2020 in terms of global travel?

Nothing major until next year. I'm trying to focus more on getting to FIRE because hurrying there then hurrying back to work isn't fun.

Flooding in New Zealand caused my February trip there to be cancelled, and Iíll visit the Atacama Desert in Chile instead.

You really wanted to make sure flooding wasn't a problem again :)

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« Reply #96 on: February 13, 2020, 03:58:35 PM »
So, what’s everyone got planned for 2020 in terms of global travel?

For us it’ll be a bit less travel compared to recent years as we need to go back to Australia 3 times which will bite our bank balance. Still we have some things planned for the summer.

We will do a driving trip around Transylvania (Romania) with another couple and then we will fly over to Tokyo for the Olympics. We are  really looking forward to both halves of our vacation.

This trio will either be our last vacation as full time employees, or our first post FIRE trip. So doubly exciting.
Flooding in New Zealand caused my February trip there to be cancelled, and I’ll visit the Atacama Desert in Chile instead.
Covid-19 caused my April hiking trip to Hunan Province to be cancelled, so I’ll move up my trip to the Baltic States (originally planned for August)
June: Sumatra and Sulawesi
August: Kilimanjaro and Kenya
October: Australia for the T20 World Cup
December: Northern Brazil
I think you are FIRE already so have you thought of combining your trips into one or two longer ones that are close to each other? Save on travel/airfare costs, time and hassles,  and greatly reduce your carbon footprint.
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« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2020, 04:29:16 PM »
So, whatís everyone got planned for 2020 in terms of global travel?

For us itíll be a bit less travel compared to recent years as we need to go back to Australia 3 times which will bite our bank balance. Still we have some things planned for the summer.

We will do a driving trip around Transylvania (Romania) with another couple and then we will fly over to Tokyo for the Olympics. We are  really looking forward to both halves of our vacation.

This trio will either be our last vacation as full time employees, or our first post FIRE trip. So doubly exciting.
Flooding in New Zealand caused my February trip there to be cancelled, and Iíll visit the Atacama Desert in Chile instead.
Covid-19 caused my April hiking trip to Hunan Province to be cancelled, so Iíll move up my trip to the Baltic States (originally planned for August)
June: Sumatra and Sulawesi
August: Kilimanjaro and Kenya
October: Australia for the T20 World Cup
December: Northern Brazil
I think you are FIRE already so have you thought of combining your trips into one or two longer ones that are close to each other? Save on travel/airfare costs, time and hassles,  and greatly reduce your carbon footprint.
I would love to, but my girlfriend isnít FIREd and we miss each other too much if Iím away too long, so itís usually six weeks home, 2 1/2 or so away (NZ wouldíve been an exception, I had a five weeker planned).

Fortunately Iím fatFIRE by MMM forum standards (not so much by Bogleheads standards perhaps :-)  ), and I travel on the cheaper side, so the extra airfares arenít a killer for my $15k travel budget.
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« Reply #98 on: February 14, 2020, 01:52:07 AM »
@jeroly the number of airfares per year has been a bit of a wildcard question in my FIRE planning.

I think we will have about $10K USD/yr for 2 of us for flights, and will have to make it work. If we fly economy it will go along way. If we fly premium economy/ business then not so much.

Our 2019 was a bit like your 2020, but we were somehow holding jobs down in between trips
- Feb - Denmark
- Mar - Sydney Aus (old mans 80th)
- Mar - Portugal
- May - Oman (just for 3 days. We drove over so doesnít really count)
- Jun - Kyrgyzstan
- Aug - Sweden (3weeks in which we chartered a boat for 1 week)
- Nov - India (golden triangle)
- Dec - Sydney for XMas

This year will see much less travel, but next year post FIRE might see us flying all over the place once more. I have no idea and no firm plans....

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« Reply #99 on: February 14, 2020, 04:15:07 AM »
@jeroly the number of airfares per year has been a bit of a wildcard question in my FIRE planning.

I think we will have about $10K USD/yr for 2 of us for flights, and will have to make it work. If we fly economy it will go along way. If we fly premium economy/ business then not so much.

Our 2019 was a bit like your 2020, but we were somehow holding jobs down in between trips
- Feb - Denmark
- Mar - Sydney Aus (old mans 80th)
- Mar - Portugal
- May - Oman (just for 3 days. We drove over so doesnít really count)
- Jun - Kyrgyzstan
- Aug - Sweden (3weeks in which we chartered a boat for 1 week)
- Nov - India (golden triangle)
- Dec - Sydney for XMas

This year will see much less travel, but next year post FIRE might see us flying all over the place once more. I have no idea and no firm plans....
I donít specifically budget for flights as in general the pricier flights tend to be matched to cheaper destinations e.g. SE Asia, Africa etc.  It seems to be around $1k/week overall the way Iíve been doing it, including airfares. Australia (3 1/2 weeks in March 2019) and Kyrgyzstan (2 weeks in May 2018) were outliers  on the high and low ends respectively.