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moving overseas in retirement
« on: January 31, 2023, 05:33:00 PM »
Looking for inspiration....
Has anyone moved overseas in retirement? If you have, can you share your experience, location and what you love/don't like about it? Looking forward to being inspired!

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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2023, 06:33:24 AM »
YouTube is full of these stories, with lots of details and content. Look for Our Rich Journey, they live in Portugal with 2 kids. There are also many nomads that move around and live off 2 bags or backpack. Look for Go With Less, Amy and Tim Rutherford.

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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2023, 03:30:49 PM »
Thank you! I am looking at Mexico or Portugal at the moment. Mexico would be so much easier but oh how I'd love to be in Europe.
I was hoping some folks who have retired early and moved away would comment and inspire.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will check them out!

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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2023, 03:52:14 PM »
I’m financially independent and not retired yet but I have relocated internationally and I’m loving it. It is a great adventure! I have one life to live and wouldn’t have done this any other way!

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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2023, 01:49:53 PM »
I'd love to move to Davao on Mindanao, Philippines.

I spent about 6 weeks there, the people are very nice and its warm with excellent SCUBA diving in WARM water... It has its downsides but I could live there at least for several months of the year.

Maybe I'm just sick of being cold..:)

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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2023, 06:52:55 PM »
How is your Spanish? Portuguese?

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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2023, 06:24:28 AM »
I lived in W. Europe for a few years in the 1990's. I was on a tight budget ($400-$500 per month) so I didn't get to do many things I wanted to do. I'd love to live there again in FIRE with the chance to do what I couldn't afford to do then.

I mastered a foreign language while living there and now own a house there, too.

What I love about W. Europe:
1) lots of free time activities that don't cost a lot of money, or even any money at all. (bike tours, hikes, historical city centers, museums)
2) with careful planning, no need to own a car.
3) lots of very affordable sights and attractions to see and do.
4) meeting a culture that is sort of familiar to yours, but still very different if you dig deeper.
5) different weather types found in very close proximity.
6) different countries are close together and thus easily accessible for excursions.
7) lots of history/historical things, if you're interested in that. If not, there's plenty of sun, sand, mountains and forests, too.

With Airbnb it's now possible to get a fully furnished apartment for a long term rental, say, six months. Then you can get to know the area and decide if it's for you. If not, then it's easy enough to up sticks and find another airbnb in another city/country. 
Another benefit now vs. when I lived in Europe is the Euro. Before, I'd always lose time (and money) changing money every time I visited a new country. Many countries in W. Europe have adopted the Euro, so that is one less inefficiency to deal with.

For inspiration I'd look to Rick Steves. He's been going to Europe now since the 1980s (?) and has produced lots of videos (now on YouTube) on travel and life in these countries.

Let us know what you decide to do!


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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2023, 12:19:00 PM »
I lived in W. Europe for a few years in the 1990's. I was on a tight budget ($400-$500 per month) so I didn't get to do many things I wanted to do. I'd love to live there again in FIRE with the chance to do what I couldn't afford to do then.

I mastered a foreign language while living there and now own a house there, too.

What I love about W. Europe:
1) lots of free time activities that don't cost a lot of money, or even any money at all. (bike tours, hikes, historical city centers, museums)
2) with careful planning, no need to own a car.
3) lots of very affordable sights and attractions to see and do.
4) meeting a culture that is sort of familiar to yours, but still very different if you dig deeper.
5) different weather types found in very close proximity.
6) different countries are close together and thus easily accessible for excursions.
7) lots of history/historical things, if you're interested in that. If not, there's plenty of sun, sand, mountains and forests, too.

With Airbnb it's now possible to get a fully furnished apartment for a long term rental, say, six months. Then you can get to know the area and decide if it's for you. If not, then it's easy enough to up sticks and find another airbnb in another city/country. 
Another benefit now vs. when I lived in Europe is the Euro. Before, I'd always lose time (and money) changing money every time I visited a new country. Many countries in W. Europe have adopted the Euro, so that is one less inefficiency to deal with.

For inspiration I'd look to Rick Steves. He's been going to Europe now since the 1980s (?) and has produced lots of videos (now on YouTube) on travel and life in these countries.

Let us know what you decide to do!

This is a primary reason we would consider Europe and maybe S. America, but not Asia. We lived in Asia (Japan) for about 5 years  total (in 2 stints) and while it was a great opportunity and the  people were phenomenal, the complete cultural illiteracy was exhausting at times, as was the actual illiteracy and the challenge learning the language.  (Admitedly, I could have spent much more time on the language, and I probably would have if I hadn't been surrounded by mostly Americans. I learned some, but it was what I'd consider "basic travel language" where I could ask where the bathroom was, be polite at a basic level, get directions, etc., but I couldn't chat at all.)  A country where more things are familiar and where the language is also more similar would be so much easier.  We also lived in Germany and the difference in ease of integration was significant.

 I loved our brief visit to Portugal and also the few times we went to Spain, so either of those seem attractive, and they conveniently happen to be lower cost then many other places in Europe. 

If money (and Visas) were no object, I'd probably aim for Scotland for 6-8 months a year, and then somewhere else to ride out the worst of the winter (and maybe the midges). 

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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2023, 05:11:26 AM »
CAMBODIA: I'm currently working at an NGO in Siem Reap, a beautiful small city near Angkor Wat temples. The people are very friendly, the climate is hot (very hot and wet half the year or more) and living cost are reasonable eg. Rent for a nice apartment is $250 - $400 USD/mth. There's a welcoming expat community and lots of travel and volunteer opportunities. Retirement visa is $295 USD/year. I pay about $200/mth for international health insurance and also pay for Khmer language classes which range from free to $9/hr. I'm looking forward to extensive South East Asia travel while I'm here. I like living in Siem Reap very much. I'm happy to answer any questions.

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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2023, 05:33:19 PM »
CAMBODIA: I'm currently working at an NGO in Siem Reap, a beautiful small city near Angkor Wat temples. The people are very friendly, the climate is hot (very hot and wet half the year or more) and living cost are reasonable eg. Rent for a nice apartment is $250 - $400 USD/mth. There's a welcoming expat community and lots of travel and volunteer opportunities. Retirement visa is $295 USD/year. I pay about $200/mth for international health insurance and also pay for Khmer language classes which range from free to $9/hr. I'm looking forward to extensive South East Asia travel while I'm here. I like living in Siem Reap very much. I'm happy to answer any questions.

This is really cool. How long do you anticipate staying there?

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Re: moving overseas in retirement
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2023, 03:50:57 AM »
CAMBODIA: I'm currently working at an NGO in Siem Reap, a beautiful small city near Angkor Wat temples. The people are very friendly, the climate is hot (very hot and wet half the year or more) and living cost are reasonable eg. Rent for a nice apartment is $250 - $400 USD/mth. There's a welcoming expat community and lots of travel and volunteer opportunities. Retirement visa is $295 USD/year. I pay about $200/mth for international health insurance and also pay for Khmer language classes which range from free to $9/hr. I'm looking forward to extensive South East Asia travel while I'm here. I like living in Siem Reap very much. I'm happy to answer any questions.

I didn't know that Cambodia has a retirement visa program. Does it look like the Thailand one?