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House and dog sitters
« on: July 06, 2021, 04:07:47 PM »
Hello community,

I am six months into FIRE and I gotta say I have not been happier in my life. While being FIREd at home is quite nice, part of the motivation was to slow travel the world and explore different places weeks or even months at a time.

I have a cottage sized home with a very nice garden full of vegetables and I also have dogs. My dogs will accompany me to any trips within North America, but they will stay home if I go to, say, Thailand for two months.  Does anyone have experience with house sitters that will take care of a garden and dogs for an extended period of time? Where did you find them and what's a good resource?


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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2021, 09:16:34 PM »
I used two house/pet sitters for a while that were recommended through friends. I found two others through rover.com and one of these is my go-to now whenever I travel. I absolutely love and trust her. I was hesitant to use a stranger, but the site recommends very locally, and there was enough to go on in the profiles to narrow a few for in-person meetings. I started with lower stakes engagements (daytime dog walks) and verified references before doing any overnights. It's made travel so much easier.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2021, 09:56:58 PM »
Hello community,

I am six months into FIRE and I gotta say I have not been happier in my life. While being FIREd at home is quite nice, part of the motivation was to slow travel the world and explore different places weeks or even months at a time.

I have a cottage sized home with a very nice garden full of vegetables and I also have dogs. My dogs will accompany me to any trips within North America, but they will stay home if I go to, say, Thailand for two months.  Does anyone have experience with house sitters that will take care of a garden and dogs for an extended period of time? Where did you find them and what's a good resource?

Hi- Try trusted housesitters. I think its around $100 a year or so to join f. We have done a few sits through them. Basically how it works is sitters will come to your house and watch pets for free in exchange for staying in your place. We have stayed in interesting places and had a great time watching some great dogs. The only problem was when we had to leave the dogs as we quickly become attached to them. 

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2021, 10:35:07 AM »
Thank you both for the recommendations. Checking them out now.

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2021, 05:43:49 PM »
I have used rover.com and had really good experiences.  I may go on a longer trip in December, and if one of my friends is unable to dogsit I will definitely use Rover again.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2021, 04:08:45 AM »
I had a nightmare situation with a highly-recommended rover sitter. She didn’t actually stay at my house (as verified through my home security) and neglected my dogs. Luckily it was a short trip, but just be careful with rover.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2021, 08:37:36 PM »
I forget which online service I used, one of the big and reliable ones.  The lady who came from Europe for a 3-month stay while I was working out of town was trustworthy enough, but she broke a hip falling off my bike and had to go back to her home country, after staying in the hospital for a while.  So my house ended up being vacant while I was gone anyway.  I wasn't close to RE yet so I ended up selling the house and getting a condo, which I could leave with less worry. 

I think house sitters can certainly work, I think the house sitter and I were unlucky, but you need to have a viable backup plan that you can trigger if something happens.  My sitter also ended up staying with some friends she knew in town some of the time before her injury as she didn't like my house that much, and I had warned her of its shortcomings before she took the contract (I had a great location but a mediocre house, not the luxury digs that many house sitters are looking for, but I was totally up front about that).

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2021, 09:40:15 PM »
I have had very formal, large (i.e. multiple people involved) organizations watch my pets, and also done it through word-of-mouth.  I think a larger organization brings a few things: they probably have a web tool for communication, which not only documents their visits, but also your desires.  They should (if they are local) also be more reliable to deal with one person being unavailable, and also for coverage during holidays.  They will be more expensive.

The other way to go is to ask at your vet.  It seems a lot of vet techs do this on the side, and of course they readily talk with your vet, so there is a high probability that any medical issue with your pet will get looked after.

And of course, whatever you do, try it out on small trips first, to build up your confidence and their knowledge of what needs to be done.  No service will get it right if your first encounter is a 2 month getaway.  Your animals need to be comfortable with the person, too, and that will take time.  If they are active, maybe it starts as some dog walking days, not for any purpose but to familiarize them.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2021, 04:44:54 PM »
I had a nightmare situation with a highly-recommended rover sitter. She didn’t actually stay at my house (as verified through my home security) and neglected my dogs. Luckily it was a short trip, but just be careful with rover.

This is a good point. We have used rover as well. If someone doesn’t have friends/family they can call in the event of an emergency, I’d certainly recommend setting up some backup rover personnel before you leave in case you get in a crunch.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2021, 02:32:24 PM »
Because we are a dog intensive neighborhood I’ve heard a couple of interesting, bad experiences with Rover.

Recently …well it doesn’t matter. TLDR  In one case Rover made it absolutely right. In the second case they were unable because the dog is dead.

We have a tried and true Dog Sitter who does not stay in our house because she has her own dogs. So she comes two or three times a day. Yes it’s very expensive. She charges $15 per visit. But that’s life with dogs.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2021, 05:09:13 PM »
Another vote for "trusted housesitters"... I know people who have done it and have used them, both get to rate the other so there's encouragement to do a good job.  Usually no money changes hands ... the sitter gets a free place to stay, you get a free house and pet sitter.  Meet up before to transfer instructions. 

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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2021, 03:07:29 PM »
I just finished entering feedback on Trusted Housesitters for my latest sitter for a trip I got back from yesterday.  It works well and is very mustachian.  The one downside is I do feel compelled to have a Plan B in case of an emergency for the sitter, since they are not a company I've contracted with that would have their own back-ups.  But, it's a huge difference in cost.  We were on a 17-day trip with friends in July where they hired a pet sitter and we used TH.  They paid $1400 and we paid the annual fee for TH (they now have a tiered plan, so this fee could be between about $100-200). 

The harder things on our side are that I do a lot more work for the sitters than for someone I pay, and this is hard when you are getting ready for a trip and trying to pack.  I have a whole 3-week cleaning schedule leading up to my trips to deep clean the house to be sure it is ready for guests.  (The biggest thing I've seen on the house sitter groups is shock from sitters about how disgusting the home they are sitting in is). Also, I feel like you have to have a little more flexibility in these exchange situations than where you are paying someone and can set higher expectations or stricter rules.  Both are minor things for saving thousands of dollars on pet care.  Many/most of the sitters have deep experience with sitting including plant/garden maintenance, and you can get to know a lot about them before selecting them through the website.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2021, 01:08:07 PM »
Disclaimer: I'm a crazy dog mom and this might be overkill but when it comes to my dog, I'd rather be too careful than be sorry later. I also don't leave my dog anymore after it didn't work out with 2 sitters from rover - either we take him along or we take turn for international trips.


We used Rover and now host as well. Here are what we tell friends and family:

- Meet and greet is a must. If the sitter has a dog, look at their dog's behavior and see if it's well trained or not. Bring your dog to the M&G and see how the sitter and their dog interact with your dog. As a host, we require M&G to see if we're a great fit and occasionally have to say no if the dog (it's really the owner) is not a great fit.

- Dog lovers are awesome but they don't necessarily make great sitters. Find someone who can introduce/maintain structures and boundaries to the dogs they watch as well.

- Ask about what their routine with their dog. As a host, we enforce the same rules for all dogs staying with us. We walk twice a day ~2-3miles total (we'll do separate walk if the client's dog needs shorter walk). Our dog is not allowed to jump on the furniture or people and the same rule applies to the dogs we host. If they come to us knowing no boundaries, they'll leave knowing at least some. We follow balance training and if the owner follows positive only training and minds our method, we're completely fine with not getting their business - we understand that not everyone is our client (we're not really doing this for the money so we can afford to be picky on who we want to take on).

- Note if the sitter asks questions about your dog's routine (exercise, meal and medication schedule, known allergies, known health issues, vet and emergency contact info, any aggression or reactivity, any resource guarding issue, separation anxiety, etc).

- Ask if there will always be someone at home with the dogs and WHO that person is. You want to meet this person as well. We got a great referral for a host and when I asked about this, they said they go out shopping for up to EIGHT hours. We settled for 4 hours alone time with doggie gate to separate the dogs unsupervised (too many horror stories about fights when no one is watching). Then the night before we left, they texted and asked if it was okay to bring our dog rock climbing. They will tether the dog at the base and they will be many people passing by. We cancelled the booking and cancelled our trip.

- You usually get what you pay for. We had horrible experience with a Rover host with hundreds of 5 star review. She was the cheapest I could find and being a mustachian, of course I picked her. My dog had separation anxiety and I was worried if he was eating while we were gone. She wasn't responsive and after multiple unanswered texts and calls, we had to cut our trip short and booked a flight home the following day. When we picked him up, the host wasn't even home. Her father in law, who we never met and had no idea about his capability of handling dogs opened the door and gave us our dog. His bed was peed on, the leash smelled like pee, the dog smelled like pee. By the time we got home, the car and our hands all smelled like pee. We don't let this happen our watch (as a host). All dogs get multiple bathroom breaks throughout the day. We just got another client who said they'd been trying to find a reliable sitter for over a year when they found us. They almost gave up but they realized the issue could've been because they were going with the $20-25/night hosts. We're definitely more expensive than most people on rover but we also provide more since we only take no more than 2 dogs at a time.


I know you want someone to stay at your place but the same rule of thumb above still applies and I would definitely get several referrals, preferably from someone you know. A friend of ours had a vet tech stayed at his place. She didn't let the dog out for bathroom breaks, threw a party and had sex in his bed (I guess she had no idea he had cameras). In fact, because of the unsuccessful stories from our friends plus our own experiences, we decided to start hosting to help them out.

But then again, some people had great results and never had any issues with their sitters so good sitters are definitely out there, you just have to weed out the bad ones.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2021, 04:26:10 PM »
I agree with rae09. I'd rather forego a trip together than risk having someone do a poor job taking care of our dogs.  We haven't had any major issues with Rover sitters (that we know of...), and one in particular was amazing, but we've had some "too much misdirected love" situations -- overfeeding, over-treating, vet visit for a known chronic issue, ignoring all the hard work we've put into manners/training, etc. So yes, dog lover ≠ good dog sitter in all cases.

Although we don't have any dog-less travel plans, we do prepare for emergencies as well as we can. The same emergency prep also makes our dogs easier for a dog sitter to handle if we find ourselves wanting to work with one again someday. We've socialized our pups so that they're able to interact with lots of other dogs and people in a friendly way. The big, rambunctious puppy goes to a doggie day care weekly, so she could be boarded there if necessary, since they know her. (The little, elderly dog is much easier for someone to take in if necessary. You hardly know she's there. :-) ) We've crate trained them to make transport by a stranger or an unexpected overnight stay away from home easier. And of course we have a backup plan in the form of a couple of neighbors we trust.

When I first got a puppy 14 years ago, I figured she'd just fit seamlessly into my life, and nothing would really change. Well, it turns out these little guys are life-changing! :-) Mostly in a good way, but I do worry about them when I choose to go away, or if something ever happens to keep me from being with them temporarily or permanently.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2021, 10:20:02 PM »
We joined Trusted Housesitters and did several sits before covid and really enjoyed it. Our last dog passed a couple of years ago and we have held off getting another so we are free to travel for a while. Biggest problem was leaving the dogs we sat with as we became attached to them!
I think its best to really vet out any potential sitters best you can and if possible a meet and greet even if its only online.
I can only speak for us but we always abide by any guidance given by the owners on what they want done with the dog. We also made sure to keep the house in as good or better condition than when we arrived.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2021, 04:42:09 PM »
Great thread and very relevant to us.  We have an older dog that is becoming less and less capable for longer trips.  Also, we want to to some long term international trips where she couldn't go.   We've kenneled her for short trips, but I don't like doing that for more than 3 days.   We will look into the Find a Housesitter and possibly try that in the future.


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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2021, 11:06:35 AM »
Thank-you all for posting this.
Sitting really (REALLY) intrigues me!!

I am a dog person - I've had many over the years, of all sizes.
My last dog was my 'once-in-a-lifetime' dog.  I got her for my 3 girls, but she chose to be my dog.
When I lost her (over 15 yrs ago) it was the first time I'd ever lived alone.  I went from parents house, to military barracks to marriage, kids, and... divorce.
I took advantage of being alone and got into travelling.
Being a 'sitter' will allow me to go to new places and save lodging costs while letting me be with, play with dogs.

I'm just going to wait for covid to recede.

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« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2021, 01:41:57 PM »
I think COVID is making this a lot more challenging on both sides.  I'm seeing quite a few posts from folks with emergency last minute requests for sitting.  I think for a while folks will want sitters from their own countries, to avoid worrying about their sitters being unable to enter the homeowner's country.  But there are still other risks I'm not quite sure how to manage.  We are thinking of posting a month-long sit soon for May/June timeframe, but who knows what the next variant of COVID will be doing to us by then?  And if we post and accept a sitter, we have a (moral) obligation to provide the housing we promised during that time, so we are a little torn.  Also, either party could get COVID at the last minute.  Of course something like this could happen any time (car accident, other sickness, etc), but the risk seems higher.  As homeowners, I think we'd try to do extra quarantine ahead of time to lower the risk we'd get sick and be able to leave our home to the sitter.  But as sitters, who might be doing one or two previous sits before they arrive, their ability to quarantine might be reduced.  I'm sure everyone will shift into new protocols and new normals, but just not sure quite how yet.  We did successfully use two different sitters last summer for our travels before Delta came down hard near us, but things feel different now, post-delta and current-omicron.


Trusted Housesitters has a member forum now so I bet they are discussing things like this there.

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2021, 08:50:27 AM »
As a sitter, can you request / filter homes w/o  'aggressive' breeds?

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2021, 09:38:42 AM »
As a sitter, can you request / filter homes w/o  'aggressive' breeds?

On Trusted Housesitters you can't filter by breed, but you can choose to only apply to sits with animals or breeds of animals that you actually want to stay with. If an owner contacts you and you're not interested (because of the breed or any other reason), just decline. I've declined a few sit requests. 

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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2021, 10:38:50 AM »
On Trusted Housesitters you can't filter by breed, but you can choose to only apply to sits with animals or breeds of animals that you actually want to stay with. If an owner contacts you and you're not interested (because of the breed or any other reason), just decline. I've declined a few sit requests.
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2021, 02:17:28 AM »
I came to this thread intending to ping @Tami1982 , because she's an experienced mustachian pet sitter. Wow, is this ever interesting! I'd never heard of Trusted Housesitters.This a very intriguing concept. Now I'm posting to learn more. Thanks!

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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2021, 09:55:10 AM »
If anyone following ever decides to join Trusted Housesitters, either as a sitter or as an owner, be sure to contact someone you know who is already a member (or one of us on this thread if you don't know someone) because you can get a referral code for 25% off your annual membership (in return, the person you get the referral code from gets two months of free membership). There's no need to pay full price to join.

I don't know if there is a similar policy for other sitting sites, but I imagine there is.

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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2021, 06:04:40 PM »
If anyone following ever decides to join Trusted Housesitters, either as a sitter or as an owner, be sure to contact someone you know who is already a member (or one of us on this thread if you don't know someone) because you can get a referral code for 25% off your annual membership (in return, the person you get the referral code from gets two months of free membership). There's no need to pay full price to join.

Thanks for the $tip!!

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Re: House and dog sitters
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2022, 05:21:48 PM »
PTF.  I'd be interested in dog sitting.

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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2022, 06:51:32 PM »
+1 vote for TrustedHousesitter. 

We have used the platform over the past 5 years, both as sitters and mostly to have a housesitter come and stay in our home when we travel.  We have had great experiences from the variety of sitters that we have had during this time.  It has saved us ton of money, our dogs are well-cared for in their own environment, and our outdoor houseplants are tended while we are gone, too.

We have recently been building our sitter profile by taking shorter, local sits so that we can use housesitting destinations for fun future travel.  It is competitive to land a sit in some of the more lucrative locations.

A great resource to learn more about is is GoWithLess YouTube channel - The content producers are a married couple who are digital nomads living on a very mustachian budget, and are fully nomadic.  They are part of the FIRE community.  https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlF4wwaTSqbp4ojv5gSSifZ8iKOZdsRup


 

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