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Has anyone praised your ER?
« on: April 28, 2015, 09:52:01 AM »
We talk about all the negative reactions to ER all the time, but as anyone ever told you (outside of the forum), "That's freaking awesome!" proceeded by lots of follow-up questions?
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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2015, 11:01:11 AM »
I would say about 30% of the responses I get are positive. Generally I find its either negative, non committal, or REALLY positive.

Most people don't get it.. or I suspect don't really believe it.. really means they don't believe your wealthy enough to pull it off.

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2015, 11:31:08 AM »
People would look at each other and say: "Told you." I was a financial planner for part of my career and people knew I practiced what I preached. My younger colleagues got so they were embarrassed to be seen buying lunch because I always brought mine. If someone was carrying a deli bag and saw me, they would try to hide it or give me a long and disjointed explanation. It was hilarious. I was invited to a brown bag lunch by some of them to discuss FIRE and when they asked why I was so frugal I said: "Part of the reason I enjoy my job so much is that I can walk out of here tomorrow knowing I never have to work for money again. It's incredibly freeing." There was a long silence after that.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2015, 12:07:00 PM »
Only half-FI/semi-retired, but no real job at all right now so I look retired, but so far it's only been neutral or positive comments, which has been surprising based on what I've read about other's experiences. I haven't received a single negative or doubtful response from anyone.

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2015, 12:19:49 PM »
My tribe is full of accounting and finance professionals with professional certifications, masters degrees and the like.  Almost to a man, they are consumerist whores (I still like most of them anyway.)  The typical response is, that's OK for you but I have to be able to spend money!  I've had serious discussion where they explain Starbucks and manicures and being spendy is what makes them happy.  Different strokes.

I was having a discussion with a server at IHOP about his ambition to attend barber college and become self employed and improve his situation.  I was explaining his best move after achieving his goal was to continue to live frugally and save/invest the rest.  The "why?" included me revealing I retired at 40.  He gave me an enthusiastic "Praise Jesus!"  Good kid.  He might do seminary school instead.  No one else except my father has been overwhelmingly positive.

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2015, 10:23:09 PM »
I have had people easily understand and compliment the FI aspect.  The ER portion is not as easily understood.  This may be an offshoot of the retirement police but most of the folks I have discussed this with in non-internet life equate retirement to playing golf and fishing all day. 

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2015, 05:20:27 AM »
Never negative but i get bewildered looks. But thats part of the fun of it keep people guessing.

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2015, 08:52:29 AM »
Not there yet, but will be in 4.5 years, and many of my friends are a combination of supportive, envious (because I have a defined benefit plan in addition to my defined contribution plan, making this FIRE thing a lot easier), and amazed.  Several have joined the quest as a result of my example.

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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2015, 11:07:53 AM »
I've received lots of positive reactions, and plenty of bewilderment. By far the #1 most common response I hear is, "What, did you win the lottery?"

It's probably a pretty sad commentary that winning the lottery is viewed as the most likely path to retiring early!


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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2015, 10:37:11 AM »
I had only ONE positive reaction to my multi-year sabbatical. It was not direct praise, I just overheard him talking on the phone.

My step dad on the phone to his mother: "You know, to be honest, if I had 6 months of money saved up, I'd love to quit my job and find a different one."

This was the first and only time anyone framed my sabbatical as POSITIVE. Usually, people frame it as youthful ignorance, selfishness, pettiness, ...

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2015, 10:52:39 AM »
Only my mom.

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2015, 01:35:23 PM »
My experience has been close to Spartana's. I am not looking for affirmation of my achievement, so I don't put much stock in people's reactions.

Right after I married and FIRE'd, we discovered that my MIL has Alzheimer's. We sold both of our houses and bought a lovely clown house so that she could live safely with us and DH could walk to work. Occasionally, people who don't know me well may think that I retired so that I could take care of her, but DH and I know the truth. Frustrating as she can be at times (she's realtively high functioning, thanks to good drugs), dealing with her is so much easier than my old job was, even on its very best day.

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2015, 02:00:16 PM »
DH FIREd in 2011 (it was before my MMM days) His dad would drop hints about being concerned for our finances, so one day I showed them to him. His reaction was that I was a "Keeper" :) My mom knows and is happy for us. I have a few folks I have shared our story and plans with, but they are already warm to the notion and of course are impressed. I've not shared our situation with any family or friends who would not receive it well, its not worth the trouble.

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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2015, 06:32:26 PM »
Wow..... what a thread !!! :-)

I have rarely found people appreciating ER! I haven't yet left the corporate job though I am FI (Financially independent) but still working full time. When I tell people that I am FI, the reactions are very disappointing ! The reactions can mostly be categorized into 2 categories

(1) Don't believe me - Make statements like you must be kidding or you may not have done the proper calculations - Later on, you will realize that you are not FI and will repent

(2) Just ignore me - I think they feel that I am showing off

Now I have stopped telling people that I am FI!!

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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2015, 10:39:57 PM »
I have been wondering about this a bit.

I wonder if our western (work yourself to death)  culture means that people who aim to check out and retire are viewed as lowlife's that simply don't want to work anymore and thus should be viewed as lazy.

This of course is a bit of a twist on what retirement actually is, I don't believe any of us really cease to work, rather we work at different things, its just that we don't HVAE to work for our employer if we don't want to.. and lets face it, most of us don't.

So yeah ER, is definitely counter culture, plus most people really don't believe me when I say I'm FIRED anyway.

Speaking of culture.. anybody know of any Japanese nationals that are FIRED? I ask because often men won't come home till very late at night, lest their apartment neighbours think they don't have important jobs! Some of them really do die a work as well.

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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2015, 11:57:04 PM »
Only my Mum. She said something like, "you've done well and deserve it."

Everyone else who knows actually says very little about it. People our age seem quite envious (my sister, Sister-in-law, best friend). With acquaintances and strangers we've learned to downplay it.

We are moving to a small town post-FIRE and we've started trial running it. We get asked by EVERYONE we talk to, what we are going to do with ourselves when we move there. It's really awkward and we haven't come up with a good response yet.

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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2015, 06:51:09 AM »
I prefer not to say it if I were at ER, there are those greedy lurchers who will beg me to give me them some money to pay off for their stupidities. I don't feel like having friends or family members begging me for money and hear the usual "I will pay you back" which usually leads to never them paying me back, because that's how they got into that mess to begin with. I would simply tell them "I quit my job and doing independant work to support myself".

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2015, 06:56:01 AM »
Only my Mum. She said something like, "you've done well and deserve it."


Wow....You are lucky. In my case, my parents were the biggest opponent. After achieving FI, I was about to leave the corporate job and they must be the most frightened person in this universe..... They said everything that you can imagine to discourage me to leave the job :-)

Finally I decided not to leave the job (for now) because of other reasons and they took a sign of relief :-) Perhaps they are now the happiest person in this universe..... Thought their happiness is going to be short lived ;)

We get asked by EVERYONE we talk to, what we are going to do with ourselves when we move there. It's really awkward and we haven't come up with a good response yet.



Same here..... Haven't been able to come up with a satisfactory answer for others. Do let me know, if you find something :-)

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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2015, 08:21:29 PM »

Only my Mum. She said something like, "you've done well and deserve it."


Wow....You are lucky. In my case, my parents were the biggest opponent. After achieving FI, I was about to leave the corporate job and they must be the most frightened person in this universe..... They said everything that you can imagine to discourage me to leave the job :-)

Finally I decided not to leave the job (for now) because of other reasons and they took a sign of relief :-) Perhaps they are now the happiest person in this universe..... Thought their happiness is going to be short lived ;)

We get asked by EVERYONE we talk to, what we are going to do with ourselves when we move there. It's really awkward and we haven't come up with a good response yet.



Same here..... Haven't been able to come up with a satisfactory answer for others. Do let me know, if you find something :-)

Good heavens, nothing could be easier. Tell them you are an artist or a writer. I make beaded necklaces, so I can call myself a "bead artist". Do you have a hobby? Make that your "work". Are you able to write a coherent sentence? Start a blog. Tell people you are working on a history of the area, or on a biography of some obscure historical figure, or a science fiction novel. You don't have to ever publish. 

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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2015, 09:05:10 PM »
When I catch up with old friends, they usually get a big shit-eatin grin and tell me congrats.  "It sounds like you're at a pretty sweet spot in life". 

Lately it's happened when we talk about our 7 week trip to Mexico this summer.  My kid's teacher was going on for probably five minutes about how lucky my daughter is to be able to go on these long trips abroad for so long (and the teacher knew about our planned 5 week vacation to Canada last summer).  We're at a low income school where some families can't hardly afford housing and food, so globetrotting for a month or two each summer isn't a common occurrence (other than immigrant families returning home to visit family). 

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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2015, 02:49:52 AM »
We talk about all the negative reactions to ER all the time, but as anyone ever told you (outside of the forum), "That's freaking awesome!" proceeded by lots of follow-up questions?

Mine was precipitated by a health crisis, since handled.  I had planned to retire by 55 but pulled the plug at 52. People my age are "jellus".  People older than me, who are still working to pay for their possessions, don't understand how I did it.

My parents don't get it, but part of their issue is not understanding that I work when I want to, on projects I like. I had already, during the Great Recession, worked only 6 months a year, during the winter - spending 25%, saving 75% and debt free.  It is too uncertain for them. But then they don't understand how I live the way I do - gives them nothing to brag about!
I'm just glad that I have the time to spend more time with them.

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2015, 04:41:46 AM »

Good heavens, nothing could be easier. Tell them you are an artist or a writer. I make beaded necklaces, so I can call myself a "bead artist". Do you have a hobby? Make that your "work". Are you able to write a coherent sentence? Start a blog. Tell people you are working on a history of the area, or on a biography of some obscure historical figure, or a science fiction novel. You don't have to ever publish.

Lol.....

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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2015, 07:14:39 AM »
Only my Mum. She said something like, "you've done well and deserve it."


Wow....You are lucky. In my case, my parents were the biggest opponent. After achieving FI, I was about to leave the corporate job and they must be the most frightened person in this universe..... They said everything that you can imagine to discourage me to leave the job :-)

Finally I decided not to leave the job (for now) because of other reasons and they took a sign of relief :-) Perhaps they are now the happiest person in this universe..... Thought their happiness is going to be short lived ;)

We get asked by EVERYONE we talk to, what we are going to do with ourselves when we move there. It's really awkward and we haven't come up with a good response yet.



Same here..... Haven't been able to come up with a satisfactory answer for others. Do let me know, if you find something :-)

We have found the perfect response when people ask us this.  We just tell them we're going to start selling Amway.  It shuts them up really quickly!  LOL.

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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2015, 12:27:37 PM »
Wow....You are lucky. In my case, my parents were the biggest opponent. After achieving FI, I was about to leave the corporate job and they must be the most frightened person in this universe..... They said everything that you can imagine to discourage me to leave the job :-)

My parents are the same. My dad worked for the same company for 40 years (!) so he's always been nervous about my contracting/self-employment/unemployment. When I've mentioned our RE plans, he changes the subject. The first time, my mom loudly exclaimed, "That's just a long vacation, right?" Yes, mom, a very long vacation.


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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2015, 05:56:38 PM »
We have found the perfect response when people ask us this.  We just tell them we're going to start selling Amway.  It shuts them up really quickly!  LOL.

This actually seems a good idea !!! Would love to see how people react! :-)

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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2015, 12:23:28 PM »
Yes, my dad, my brother, and my DW (also a number of friends).  I don't very often make decisions based on what others say, but I have to admit that these were big ones.
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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2015, 01:15:06 PM »
I've told nobody we're ER.  Mostly because I think it's an oversimplification that masks the actual truth.  We're both taking an extended break from career to enjoy life, and may or may not work again in the same field in the future.  It's easy to parse the semantics here where people get it, but I choose to not trip people up in everyday life as that can cause more harm than good.  I don't want praise or especially not an extended conversation about finances.  Just to let the people I care about know where I am in life and to set a good example should my choices interest them. 

My favorite response was from the wife of the owner of my last company.  She told me privately that she was proud of me and that I'd never regret embracing the opportunity. 
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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2015, 10:57:21 AM »
My parents dont get idea of ER, although they've been ER for a while now but still cant grasp a concept that you dont have to wait till certain age to be FI and ER. When I tell them that we are FI and could retire early in our 40's, they just smile at me
an shake their heads in disbelieve. I personally dont even try to share this with anybody, since very few can understand 
what I am talking about.

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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2015, 12:51:09 PM »
I wouldn't say spending is a western culture only. I have Asian background so I can comment that "working till you are supposed to retire at 65" is the norm in Asia as well. Most of the family have 2 income earners who work until time to collect pension. The idea of FIRE is nonexistence. Money is the most important thing in life even though it doesn't necessarily bring happiness. I've seen enough families have more money than they need yet live a miserable life.

Asians are usually very good savers. However it has changed quite dramatically in recent years as more and more people are spending money like there is no tomorrow. Old generations save but don't know how to invest. All money is put in a savings account or GIC and eaten by inflation.


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I think I got off topic a bit. I'd like to add that my peers don't know "ER" ever exists. It's like I'm talking to a wall every time I bring up FI or ER. Last night I was talking to a close friend about ER, she is like "are you joking". So I stopped. Everyone thinks that we need to earn high 6 figures to retire and no one retire before 65, period. Even if we earn enough money but we should still work until 65.

My parents are very supportive though and that's all I care about. I need to find a partner who shares the same vision as I do. I feel that it's extremely hard as all of the young people I know knows nothing about FI or ER. I'm better off by myself.
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« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2015, 02:48:32 PM »
@Spartana

House and Cars represent status and success in Asian community. People may work their a** off to drive fancy cars and live in a McMansion. One cannot own a house but needs to drive a Mercedes . It's so sad that we are perceived as failures if drive a Toyota. That's probably why one of my friends lives in a basement but drives a BMW.

I know someone who works 3 jobs to barely cover a $400k apartment she mortgaged and a Lexus SUV she leased. I don't understand but I guess that's the reason why it separates me from the rest of them.

Older generations save their entire lives and offer to pay off their kids' colleague and even their down payment for house. That's one of the many reasons why they can't retire. However, it's also the culture that adult children are expected to take care of their parents when they are old. I see that more and more adult kids are eating on their parents' savings and doing nothing. I think I may need to create a new thread to discuss this phenomenon. It amazes me every time I see adult children ask money from their old parents.

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« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2015, 09:59:08 AM »
People that are frugal themselves but may not know about ER make positive comments, and surprisingly my own family is starting to come around. One sister told me when I came for a recent visit that she watched me carefully to see how I made choices about money and what I talked about. She is a way off from ER, but has an interest now.

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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2015, 10:19:11 AM »
Since Mr. LC and I retired last year we have spent a great deal of time sorting through every nook and cranny of our home and ridding ourselves of everything that didn't have value or purpose to us.  We then sold items that still had value on Craigslist, Facebook garage sale sites, and a garage sale at our home.  A "friend" of ours made the comment that we needed the money for groceries since we were not working. Didn't bother to set them straight as it was pointless. 
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« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2015, 02:38:58 PM »
My parents can't comprehend. We retired at the same time as they did. They keep making jokes about applying at McD's, etc. They know we have enough to live on, think it's a generational/values issue. I told one friend who admitted she was jealous and then pulled way back. (Not telling anyone else) It's nice to have this forum though.

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« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2015, 10:51:30 AM »
I wouldn't say spending is a western culture only. I have Asian background so I can comment that "working till you are supposed to retire at 65" is the norm in Asia as well. Most of the family have 2 income earners who work until time to collect pension. The idea of FIRE is nonexistence. Money is the most important thing in life even though it doesn't necessarily bring happiness. I've seen enough families have more money than they need yet live a miserable life.

Asians are usually very good savers. However it has changed quite dramatically in recent years as more and more people are spending money like there is no tomorrow. Old generations save but don't know how to invest. All money is put in a savings account or GIC and eaten by inflation.


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I think I got off topic a bit. I'd like to add that my peers don't know "ER" ever exists. It's like I'm talking to a wall every time I bring up FI or ER. Last night I was talking to a close friend about ER, she is like "are you joking". So I stopped. Everyone thinks that we need to earn high 6 figures to retire and no one retire before 65, period. Even if we earn enough money but we should still work until 65.

My parents are very supportive though and that's all I care about. I need to find a partner who shares the same vision as I do. I feel that it's extremely hard as all of the young people I know knows nothing about FI or ER. I'm better off by myself.
This is actually true in my area. I live in a very large Asian community (only non-Asian in the 'hood I think) and when I have told my neighbors about my retiring early they could not grasp it (now I just tell them I work from home). Most live in large family groups and everyone works until a fairly old age. They do save and live fairly frugal lives (except most seem to have luxury cars for some reason - odd to see endless Mercedes and Lexus' in a working-class neighborhood) and put a high value on helping their children thru college and into a better future rather than FIREing themselves.

I am ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I definitely agree with the statement that the older generation's "American Dream" was sacrificing themselves to set up a stable life in American and put their children through college.  After largely dating other Asians, I ended up marrying a Caucasian Southerner (so about as American as it gets) who is strangely asian in lifestyle - very frugal and eats anything. 

My parents are supportive in a confused sort of way.  They are very happy that my husband and I are such good savers, but they don't understand our FIRE goals.  I think early retirement is equated with laziness.  All my cousins and siblings are engineers, doctors, and Ivy League professors, so I am definitely the odd one out.  Strangely, my grandfather, however, is totally on board.  He took me aside one day and said that he has come to realize that "normal" or "average" has become too rare these days, and that he thinks I am doing something right by focusing on spending more time with family.  I think he genuinely regrets not spending more time with his children when they were younger, but those were different times and he was under intense pressure to be the "big man" and breadwinner. 

I guess it comes down to values.  You only have so much time in a day, and while I haven't completely discounted the argument that "you can have it all," I personally feel like something has to give.  I would rather have an average career, save harder, and be free to spend more time with my husband, children, and aging relatives.  Others prefer to pursue careers, aspire to making a difference on a broader scale, and don't worry about FI because their ambition means money is not a primary concern, or that there is no foreseeable end in sight to their work.  They set the bar high, hit a peak of happiness that fades quickly after the goal is met, reset the bar higher, and then it's back to work.  I have my bar set low, and have been steadily content for about 8 years now.  I think I get as much happiness from when my ultra-Mustachian husband allows some ice cream into the house as my cousin gets when his pretrial for a cure to kidney stones succeeds.  Maybe I am selfish to only focus on my small bubble of family and friends, but I guess I have much more nihilistic leanings than most.
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« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2015, 01:12:59 PM »
My parents can't comprehend. We retired at the same time as they did. They keep making jokes about applying at McD's, etc. They know we have enough to live on, think it's a generational/values issue. I told one friend who admitted she was jealous and then pulled way back. (Not telling anyone else) It's nice to have this forum though.

Sometimes I wonder if that joking isn't a form of modesty. They don't want to be thought of as pretentious so they discount their true position. They may also have friends who are struggling in retirement, with no chance of improving their situation this late in life, and don't want to brag about their own security. Also, there are plenty of Madoff types around who have scammed seemingly smart people out of their life savings, so there is possibly a constant undercurrent of fear that something could still happen to derail their retirements.

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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2015, 08:31:57 PM »
It's funny how parents can be. My parents haven't said anything in the way of praise to me. However, my brother says they are always putting us up as role models to him. So perhaps they are praising us - just not to our faces!

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2015, 02:50:49 PM »
We have found the perfect response when people ask us this.  We just tell them we're going to start selling Amway.  It shuts them up really quickly!  LOL.

This actually seems a good idea !!! Would love to see how people react! :-)

Cracked me up! What a effective and polite way to end the conversation- I am going to try this(the explanation that is)........

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2015, 04:44:50 PM »
Some friends are happy for us, though these tend to be people who have also quit their jobs, not necessarily for FIRE but to do something different or better. They think we are badasses. We have a parent on either side who's super happy for us, and very proud of how we've set and met goals. They've watched it for decades, so I think they understand -- more than most -- the hard work that went into FIRE and how long it actually took.

But, most everyone else seems to think we're crazy and to be quite concerned about us. A lot of people want to know how long we intend to do this, others can't fathom how we spend our days. I blogged about it (https://evgeniagotfi.wordpress.com/2015/06/28/theres-no-line-item-for-fi/) because I think people lack a framework for thinking about themselves outside of work. Our culture is so focused on "productivity" (and specifically productivity as defined in terms of a full-time job) and has scorned so many things we enjoy in FIRE (making things yourself, doing things around the house, spending time with your family) that I think many people just don't have a mental model for where to put us.

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2015, 07:04:21 PM »
Pulled the er plug 4 years ago age 53.  100% of my friends "get it" Those who do not-----are NOT my friends

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2015, 10:09:24 AM »
It's funny how parents can be. My parents haven't said anything in the way of praise to me. However, my brother says they are always putting us up as role models to him. So perhaps they are praising us - just not to our faces!

I guess if people are going to talk about you behind your back, that's the best way to do it.  My parents like to take credit for my accomplishments, including my engineering degree.  Their contribution to my degree was a swift kick in the butt on the way out, and a whisper that the college fund never really existed. 

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2015, 05:27:38 PM »
Only my very close friend.

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2015, 12:31:39 AM »
Most people just think I'm travelling, they can't understand the concept that I've retired at 35. The majority of people are too interested in the latest iPhone or impressing others with fast cars, buying expensive drinks in bars/clubs, or funding their girlfriends consumer/shopping habit etc..I'm glad the majority of people are wired like this, it makes my dreams possible.

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2015, 05:03:39 AM »
My kids are super proud and have followed in our footsteps. One is almost FI in his late thirties and has kids!  The other is way ahead of where we were at his age and if all goes well will be there mid fourties. When we talked about it they are making a conscious decision to spend more now on travel and delay ER. For them it is the right thing. We were 52 and 55 at ER. 

One of our toughest critics who has spent her life thinking "poor me" while spending spending spending told her kids they should talk to us to find out how we did it. I took it as a compliment.

The won the lottery post cracked me up. One of the reasons we could ER was because we did not waste money buying lottery tickets. Joke is on them.

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2015, 08:52:38 AM »
Majority of reactions are either negative, sarcastic or doubting.  Only a couple of my friends have a genuinely positive response, but they are also FI and/or RE themselves.  My latest response to doubters when they ask what I do is to tell them that I am "Gainfully Unemployed".  This usually shuts them up and leaves them agape

Gotta say reaction of others to my FIRE is not what I expected.  Between the apparent view that I am not a contributor, lazy or SUPER, MEGA rich or something (which I am not), they don't understand how someone can live on so little, spend so much time with themselves and not go crazy, rather seem very content.

So glad for this forum where I may return for validation when the negative views cover me with their slime ;-)

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2015, 09:35:38 AM »
We recently had a meet-up in the SFO area where I did feel supported in my decisions, but I guess that's why we do these meet-ups.

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2015, 09:54:01 AM »
My kids are super proud and have followed in our footsteps. One is almost FI in his late thirties and has kids!  The other is way ahead of where we were at his age and if all goes well will be there mid fourties. When we talked about it they are making a conscious decision to spend more now on travel and delay ER. For them it is the right thing. We were 52 and 55 at ER. 

One of our toughest critics who has spent her life thinking "poor me" while spending spending spending told her kids they should talk to us to find out how we did it. I took it as a compliment.

The won the lottery post cracked me up. One of the reasons we could ER was because we did not waste money buying lottery tickets. Joke is on them.

I'm sure you did well but does 52 and 55 qualify as ER?   Just curious.  Most everyone I know who has had a teaching or government gig (except myself)  has exited with sweet benefits and pensions around that time.     I always assume that anything after 55 is a late retirement for my generation.    I guess I'm wrong on that?  Probably a thread on what qualifies as ER that I have read and forgotten about already.

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2015, 10:25:13 AM »
My kids are super proud and have followed in our footsteps. One is almost FI in his late thirties and has kids!  The other is way ahead of where we were at his age and if all goes well will be there mid fourties. When we talked about it they are making a conscious decision to spend more now on travel and delay ER. For them it is the right thing. We were 52 and 55 at ER. 

One of our toughest critics who has spent her life thinking "poor me" while spending spending spending told her kids they should talk to us to find out how we did it. I took it as a compliment.

The won the lottery post cracked me up. One of the reasons we could ER was because we did not waste money buying lottery tickets. Joke is on them.

I'm sure you did well but does 52 and 55 qualify as ER?   Just curious.  Most everyone I know who has had a teaching or government gig (except myself)  has exited with sweet benefits and pensions around that time.     I always assume that anything after 55 is a late retirement for my generation.    I guess I'm wrong on that?  Probably a thread on what qualifies as ER that I have read and forgotten about already.
I think early retirement is considered before you start getting goverment benefits at 65 (depending where you live). I always saw it that way, so if somebody retires at 55, I still consider early retirement. Someone who retires before 50, i consider that extreme early retirement, basically because a very small percentage are able to pull that off. I guess the definition of ER is not a precise one.

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2015, 09:05:45 PM »
My kids are super proud and have followed in our footsteps. One is almost FI in his late thirties and has kids!  The other is way ahead of where we were at his age and if all goes well will be there mid fourties. When we talked about it they are making a conscious decision to spend more now on travel and delay ER. For them it is the right thing. We were 52 and 55 at ER. 

One of our toughest critics who has spent her life thinking "poor me" while spending spending spending told her kids they should talk to us to find out how we did it. I took it as a compliment.

The won the lottery post cracked me up. One of the reasons we could ER was because we did not waste money buying lottery tickets. Joke is on them.

I'm sure you did well but does 52 and 55 qualify as ER?   Just curious.  Most everyone I know who has had a teaching or government gig (except myself)  has exited with sweet benefits and pensions around that time.     I always assume that anything after 55 is a late retirement for my generation.    I guess I'm wrong on that?  Probably a thread on what qualifies as ER that I have read and forgotten about already.

It's not Mustachian-level ER, but for regular people 55 is early.  Think about how (relatively) young 55 is to have freedom from paid work.  More badass than many!

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2015, 04:55:24 PM »
My kids are super proud and have followed in our footsteps. One is almost FI in his late thirties and has kids!  The other is way ahead of where we were at his age and if all goes well will be there mid fourties. When we talked about it they are making a conscious decision to spend more now on travel and delay ER. For them it is the right thing. We were 52 and 55 at ER. 

One of our toughest critics who has spent her life thinking "poor me" while spending spending spending told her kids they should talk to us to find out how we did it. I took it as a compliment.

The won the lottery post cracked me up. One of the reasons we could ER was because we did not waste money buying lottery tickets. Joke is on them.

I'm sure you did well but does 52 and 55 qualify as ER?   Just curious.  Most everyone I know who has had a teaching or government gig (except myself)  has exited with sweet benefits and pensions around that time.     I always assume that anything after 55 is a late retirement for my generation.    I guess I'm wrong on that?  Probably a thread on what qualifies as ER that I have read and forgotten about already.

It's not Mustachian-level ER, but for regular people 55 is early.  Think about how (relatively) young 55 is to have freedom from paid work.  More badass than many!

Maybe it's the difference between government w/pension and private enterprise?

I left at 50.  While not 'early' around here, it was considered a very strange event indeed at work.  Everyone gave me odd responses.  Even the HR chick at my exit interview sort of stammered.  She expected some 65 year old and didn't know what to say to a 50 year old (who was probably 10 years her junior.)

There was even some debate amongst a couple of people who had to come to me to clear it up.

man1: You can't retire
me: yes I can
man2: you're not old enough
me: yes I am.  I can retire any time I want to.
man1: but ... but ... I mean... can...?
me: Can I collect social security?
man1: yeah!
me: no
man2: See, I told you!

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Re: Has anyone praised your ER?
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2015, 12:04:05 PM »

We have found the perfect response when people ask us this.  We just tell them we're going to start selling Amway.  It shuts them up really quickly!  LOL.

This is pure brilliance!