Author Topic: Finding a Resilient Community  (Read 1808 times)

smoghat

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Finding a Resilient Community
« on: April 19, 2020, 02:58:35 PM »
Wow! Things sure have changed lately, havenít they?

Thereís a good chance that the virus will be gone and done sometime relatively soon (a season or two, maybe a year or two) but it may also be with us for good. Iím thrilled Iím not living in a 350 square foot apartment in Brooklyn like some of my friends are, but even a half acre of real estate in the suburbs seems too small, especially for self-sufficiency. Growing food here is impossible because of rampant deer, protected by people whoíve watched Bambi and think itís normal to have them as lawn ornaments. So Iím beginning to wonder where there might be more resilient communities, places that have a sense of social cohesion (e.g. not Trump country), arenít desperately poor and full of meth and opioids (again, not Trump country), where people live more closely to the Earth (this is very important). Ideally, itíd be somewhere in the Northeast (so it could be a second home as we live in northern NJ) and be kind of affordable (I know, Iím dreaming). As Iím in my early 50s, there should be a real hospital there.

Places Iím considering:

The Hudson Valley
Vermont (a bit far, but probably the best bet)
Maine (quite far, but a good choice)
The Berkshires (I grew up there, so itís a real possibility)
Bucks County, PA
Western NJ near the Delaware River (the least interesting, but the most accessible)

Definitely NOT a city of any size.
Am I missing anything else?

Is anybody else out there looking?

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Re: Finding a Resilient Community
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2020, 03:10:13 PM »
Following. Also in my early 50s.

Iíve had Hudson Valley & VT on my list for some time. Advantage of HV is access to nyc. Winters in VT I hear are very long, so would need to be up for that.

Neither state is great for retirees though.

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Re: Finding a Resilient Community
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2020, 07:29:21 AM »
Put up a 6' fence and you won't have a deer eating your garden problem.
We meth head dummies in Trump country figured that out a long time ago while we were living closer to the earth and not dreaming about it.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2020, 12:49:08 PM by Fishindude »

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Re: Finding a Resilient Community
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2020, 07:13:25 PM »
What kind of deers do you have at your
 place, @Fishindude? We need 8' fences to keep the critters out ;-)
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Re: Finding a Resilient Community
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2020, 07:20:05 AM »
What kind of deers do you have at your
 place, @Fishindude? We need 8' fences to keep the critters out ;-)

6' Works here in meth head, Trump country.   Maybe you have taller "deers"?
In that case, you better go with the 8' fence.

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Re: Finding a Resilient Community
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2020, 05:34:17 PM »
Don't come check it out until the quarantine is lifted, but the Big Island of Hawaii is a good place to find communities with large lots where you can grow food and get some reasonable distance from neighbors.  The town where I am has had no cases and everyone is fairly relaxed when I meet them in my daily walks.  COL is a little high and it is not bikeable but I am actually thinking of taking my house off the market because this is proving to be a good spot to be.

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Re: Finding a Resilient Community
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2020, 06:43:14 PM »
What kind of deers do you have at your
 place, @Fishindude? We need 8' fences to keep the critters out ;-)

6' Works here in meth head, Trump country.   Maybe you have taller "deers"?
In that case, you better go with the 8' fence.


This part of Trump/meth country requires 8' for the deer. I've watched them jump 6'.

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Re: Finding a Resilient Community
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2020, 07:40:34 PM »
Why not Oregon then? You won't have the harsh winters, you are more likely to be around people like you, it is excellent for agriculture and land is plentiful.

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Re: Finding a Resilient Community
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2020, 05:49:38 PM »
Are we talking hobby farming/grow your own chard but still drive into town for groceries? Or are we talking totally self sufficient?

IMO, there's not really a middle ground. Either you have a couple acres of land and you know how to grow taters and beans and other stuff that can actually feed you with just manual labor, or else you're just gardening for fun. There's nothing wrong with gardening for fun, but it's not a useful response to a pandemic particularly.

Your neighbors will matter too - if you're surrounded by folks who are fixing their own stuff and living off grid and can clean and dress a moose, you'll have support and trading partners when times are tough. If you have fellow yuppies you met at the farmers market, you have zilch.

I'd put Idaho up high on your list, though you might not like the politics of the areas you'd want to live.

-W