MOD EDIT: I don't feel like going line by line to edit this, but chill out, and don't be rude to other forum members. Cheers!-you're so close-minded to reconsider that words change over time and that your own stubbornness is causing you to be mentally lazy. How's that sound?
Sounds dumb. I know full well words can change over time
and can have multiple meanings. My point is that you believe you've changed the word 'retired' and you
haven't. Your definition is NONSENSICAL, and no one but a few on some obscure blog use it that way -which does
not constitute a legit definition of a word.
If it did, anything would mean anything anyone insisted something meant. I always fight when logic is blindly being trampled on.
-the world is passing you by and you're making one last angry grasp to make sense of it?
WFT are you talking about???? I'm guessing we're around the same age. Hell, maybe I'm younger than you. And I'm
annoyed by your childish non-arguments, but I'm not 'angry'. Certainly not fuming as I calmly type this.
And you totally misunderstood my Morningstar quote.
Intentionally or just a blunder?
And yes, I agree that if you're earning a salary, it's unlikely you're retired.
Well, that's
not agreeing with me. That's you fabricating something illogical I
didn't write and you agreeing with
yourself. NO ONE earning a salary is retired. The word would have no meaning at all if that were somehow true to most people.
You seem to be the only one confused here the word retired, by the way. The rest of us seem to grasp the meaning just fine.
Seriously, how full of yourself are you? Not even every person on this single
thread think your definition makes sense, much less on this
forum, much less the rest of the
actual real world where, for a fact, essentially no one uses 'retired' like your deluded imagination is telling you they are.
So it doesn't have anything to do with age, yet you have to be at least a certain age. That makes a lot of sense! No contradiction there AT ALL! Nice job!
Once AGAIN, retired
doesn't mean only 'old' people. That would be totally stupid. And you only have to be a 'certain age' to the extent that no one calls CHILDREN 'retired'. Retired means you 'have
had' some sort of career/work that you
no longer have, so people who've never worked aren't logically retired, either. Is 'adult of essentially ANY age' too restricting for you??
It's funny that you had a grasp of this plain logic just a few years ago when you posted that someone else shouldn't conflate 'risk' and 'volatility' (like MANY do as terms of finance). You were 100% right, even though that's a weaker argument than mine on 'retired'.
But when someone challenges you, you suddenly forget logic and cling to a nonsensical defense?
To tie this back 'on topic', "You're too young to retire" obviously meant 'no longer working to earn money' and BECAUSE OF THAT, was meant, and understood, as an insult.
C'mon, man... just be honest. You know you're wrong. NO ONE ELSE uses your version of 'retired' in the real world. Your def. is obscure jargon nonsense and contradicts how most people think of the word.
Does anyone else get a kick out of the fact that the Internet Retirement Police are ALWAYS people that work full time? I've never once heard someone who is retired worry about whether someone else "qualifies" to join them. It's starting to make me think that maybe there's a tad bit of jealously involved. But nah, that couldn't be.
I'll assume you're talking about me. And every sentence you wrote was entirely deranged. Might not want to all-caps
ALWAYS when you have no idea what you're talking about.
I don't work full time, and obviously qualify as 'Internet Retirement Police' (and not the only one) in the phrasing of your 'dear leader' as you slavishly called him. So, you're just straight-up
wrong.
And AGAIN, it's not about 'qualifying' for the title of 'retired'. IMO, 'retired' is not even a title of prestige to 'join'. Since it means something so simple as 'no longer working for income', most 'Mustachians' are
far more sophisticated than just doing nothing and collecting SS and dividends (as is far more typical).
As I said, what we do really does deserve it's own word for what this is. Then it would take making that word known (and making sure the definition doesn't get fucked up by pig-headed idiots). Making a mess of a completely ill-fitting, banal word already in wide use is face-punchingly stupid.
Once AGAIN, 'Mustachain' essentially defines this and would
almost work,
and coined by your beloved leader. It's only flaw is that it defines post
and PRE financial independence.
As for
jealousy... AGAIN... I'm FI and don't need to work. I have nothing to be jealous of. Monday morning can go fuck itself, and I could buy any dumb new gadget or go on whatever vacation I want at will. But this has
nothing to do with me, or what
I want 'retired' to mean. I'm just emphatically telling you how people use it, and that you're using it nonsensically, so
stop.
The core of 'Mustachianism' is using logic to call out dumb shit most people just do without thinking. Forcing the word 'retire' into obscure jargon only those 'inside the cult' will
ever understand totally undermines that logic.