I HATE Scott Walker -- Do ANY Mustachians think he is PRESIDENTIAL material?

[fartface]

You know what they say, "Elect a CLOWN and you'll get a Circus!"

Just yesterday the state of MN was compared to WI and the US overall.

Results were NOT surprising: MN has poured an abundance of money into jobs, education, and infrastructure...they LEAD THE NATION in job growth.

WISCONSIN is 38th in job creation. Gov. Walker seeks to dismantle public education...kid by kid...brick-by-brick.

Please, please, tell me what you see in this ASS-CLOWN if you are SERIOUSLY considering him as a presidential candidate? He was KICKED OUT OF University for CHEATING in the 90's. Never earned a college degree. Marquette University even ran a headline (not shitting you --- google it) where they said he was "UNFIT FOR STUDENT GOVERNMENT." WTF --- how can this guy be a FRONTRUNNER in the state of Iowa?

Really, what does the NATION think about this lying, cheating, scheming, DUNCE? I have lived and  worked under him in the state of Wisconsin and wonder what everybody else finds so magical about him? Please enlighten me!

[Kris]

I teach at one of the UW campuses.  You'll get no argument from me.

[Emilyngh]

You know what they say, "Elect a CLOWN and you'll get a Circus!"

Just yesterday the state of MN was compared to WI and the US overall.

Results were NOT surprising: MN has poured an abundance of money into jobs, education, and infrastructure...they LEAD THE NATION in job growth.

WISCONSIN is 38th in job creation. Gov. Walker seeks to dismantle public education...kid by kid...brick-by-brick.

Please, please, tell me what you see in this ASS-CLOWN if you are SERIOUSLY considering him as a presidential candidate? He was KICKED OUT OF University for CHEATING in the 90's. Never earned a college degree. Marquette University even ran a headline (not shitting you --- google it) where they said he was "UNFIT FOR STUDENT GOVERNMENT." WTF --- how can this guy be a FRONTRUNNER in the state of Iowa?

Really, what does the NATION think about this lying, cheating, scheming, DUNCE? I have lived and  worked under him in the state of Wisconsin and wonder what everybody else finds so magical about him? Please enlighten me!

Yeah.   The fact that he has supporters makes me question humanity.

[Cressida]

Really, what does the NATION think about this lying, cheating, scheming, DUNCE? I have lived and  worked under him in the state of Wisconsin and wonder what everybody else finds so magical about him? Please enlighten me!

I can't speak for the entire nation :), but there was a lot of talk among my acquaintances about Walker when the whole union thing was going down, and we were not impressed. Unfortunately, none of us would vote for a Republican anyway, so I guess that's not much help.

[fartface]

In sum...

[alsoknownasDean]

How often do the primary results in Iowa end up reflecting who actually gets chosen in the end (for either party)?

After all, didn't they pick Rick Santorum for the Republicans in 2012?

[sol]

I think Scott Walker's backer's are primarily other elected Republicans who admire his success in dismantling worker protections in his state.

I'm not sure how he ever got elected, but I long ago gave up believing that popular opinions or policies were required to win elections.

[johnny847]

How often do the primary results in Iowa end up reflecting who actually gets chosen in the end (for either party)?

After all, didn't they pick Rick Santorum for the Republicans in 2012?

Well to me the fact that he is even a frontrunner in one caucus is ridiculous.

[GizmoTX]

I'm not sure how he ever got elected, but I long ago gave up believing that popular opinions or policies were required to win elections.

This certainly explains Obama.

[Vertical Mode]

Typically, I defer to the late Robin Williams' sage wisdom on politics:

"'Politics' - you see, it comes from Latin. 'Poly', meaning 'many'; and 'tics', as in, 'bloodsucking creatures'..."

Even as someone who identifies as politically conservative, I could not get behind a Walker candidacy.

[simplified]

I have lived and  worked under him in the state of Wisconsin ...

As in, you were in a government job and a member of a union?

Politics and religion are two things that evoke strong emotions and hatred. Basically brings out the worst in people, because they believe they are always in the right. There are many people on both sides that fit the bill. Take for example, the previous Governor of the great state of Oregon that stepped down amid controversy.

Not everyone endorses public education, MMM being one of them. Some would argue that the unions are not a good fit for some occupations. Walker has successfully fought and won one of the most publicized recall campaign in the history of the country. That in itself is a huge thing.

Hatred aside, you do not see anything good in him, that the other great Wisconsinites may have seen, that may have led to his successful reelection?
Its not as if the elections were rigged. He won the majority vote. May be most of the other people in the state could see through some of the hatred towards him as being unjustified.

[MDM]

Group A: People who can't understand how anyone could have voted for Obama - twice.

Group B: People who can't understand how anyone could have voted for Walker - thrice.

Anyone here who belongs to both A and B, but supports some major party candidate?

[caliq]

I have lived and  worked under him in the state of Wisconsin ...

As in, you were in a government job and a member of a union?

Politics and religion are two things that evoke strong emotions and hatred. Basically brings out the worst in people, because they believe they are always in the right. There are many people on both sides that fit the bill. Take for example, the previous Governor of the great state of Oregon that stepped down amid controversy.

Not everyone endorses public education, MMM being one of them. Some would argue that the unions are not a good fit for some occupations. Walker has successfully fought and won one of the most publicized recall campaign in the history of the country. That in itself is a huge thing.

Hatred aside, you do not see anything good in him, that the other great Wisconsinites may have seen, that may have led to his successful reelection?
Its not as if the elections were rigged. He won the majority vote. May be most of the other people in the state could see through some of the hatred towards him as being unjustified.

I think you are very wrong about MMM's stance on public education.

Yes, he homeschools his son, but he was very clear (and Mrs. MMM was also very clear, on her own blog) that they wholeheartedly support public education in the general sense.  They were quite active with the school system before pulling their son out and I believe he actually does still go to school for things like music and art and sports.


I just recently visited Wisconsin and experienced some of the people that I'm positive voted for Walker twice (because I'm aware of their politics based on many discussions, not because I'm stereotyping).  One couple tried to convince me that evolution is false and literal Creation is the true origin of life (as in, within 7 days, exactly as described in the Bible), as well as insisting that Christians are the most persecuted religion in this country at the moment, and called their gun a N****-deterrent.  A different set of people are also Republicans, but only cared about whoever promised to lower their individual taxes the most. 

So um,  if those are the types of "great people" of Wisconsin that think Scott Walker is awesome, I think it's fairly reasonable to think that they're just flat out wrong.

[caliq]

Group A: People who can't understand how anyone could have voted for Obama - twice.

Group B: People who can't understand how anyone could have voted for Walker - thrice.

Anyone here who belongs to both A and B, but supports some major party candidate?

I'd support Elizabeth Warren if she ran for the Dems ;) 

People who voted for Obama twice were wrong to do so the second time because he went too centrist!  (I'm kind of kidding, I actually voted for him the second time around because it was the first time I was of age to vote.  I have some regrets now but then I remember Romney and forget my regrets.)

[math-ya]

I think Scott walker as president could potentially be catastrophic to the U.S.  he can be such a bully when we wants his way. But I do like him as governor because his power is limited and all he's really done is common sense stuff. Some people don't like him bc he took away their entitlements

[Vertical Mode]

Group A: People who can't understand how anyone could have voted for Obama - twice.

Group B: People who can't understand how anyone could have voted for Walker - thrice.

Anyone here who belongs to both A and B, but supports some major party candidate?

I think at this point it's a little early to say. Not opposed to doing so, but the jury is still out on who that might be for 2016 and not everyone has announced their intentions yet. Most of the (D) and (R) candidates I have liked in the past haven't made it out of their respective primaries because they have refused to bend to party-line orthodoxy.

[ncornilsen]

I don't have much to say about walker as a president, however as governor, I support his efforts to give workers some choice in their employment situation.

As a former union member who had a serious safety grievance "bartered away" in exchange for a favorable decision for another employee who was the shop stewards buddy... I say F unions. I don't want to be forced to support them financially, I want to be able to pave my own path.

And public employee unions should be illegal. Period. complete conflict of interest, and walker has done some good things with respect to the health care, IE stopping the union's bribery scheme where they got kickbacks for going with a more expensive choice.