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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7750 on: April 19, 2021, 03:07:34 AM »
"No collusion."
https://www.newsandguts.com/feds-finally-link-trump-2016-campaign-to-russian-spies/

It is clear that Manfort was deeply compromised, and this is just another piece of that. The unanswered question is still how much DJT knew and when did he know it.

“Feds finally link Trump Campaign to Russian spies”

Didn’t that happen four years ago?  Did not the national security forces jointly testify that Russia actively interfered? Didn’t Mueller already document this with painstaking detail and a number of indictments?  Seems like a “finally” and more of “yet another brick in this massive wall”
No. What happened 4 years ago was "Russian spies linked to Trump Campaign", not "Trump campaign linked to Russian spies".
And yes, that is an important difference: Who was the initiator. I am quite sure the headline maker didn't think about that though.


Also, what does "ultra-conservative" mean?
I can think of 3 possibilities:
A) Either they still want to ban printing presses and punish owning one by death, like the Catholic church in France did (which didn't work so well so Queen Anne in England invented copyright as a more effective censoring system)
B) people with heavy dementia
C) Racists, but we can't call them that because they are going to complain to our advertisers.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7751 on: April 19, 2021, 06:51:43 AM »
There was also that Senate Intelligence committee report.

And the co-chair of that committee--Richard Burr--also voted for conviction in the second of the two impeachment trials.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7752 on: April 19, 2021, 09:40:49 AM »
"No collusion."
https://www.newsandguts.com/feds-finally-link-trump-2016-campaign-to-russian-spies/

It is clear that Manfort was deeply compromised, and this is just another piece of that. The unanswered question is still how much DJT knew and when did he know it.

“Feds finally link Trump Campaign to Russian spies”

Didn’t that happen four years ago?  Did not the national security forces jointly testify that Russia actively interfered? Didn’t Mueller already document this with painstaking detail and a number of indictments?  Seems like a “finally” and more of “yet another brick in this massive wall”
No. What happened 4 years ago was "Russian spies linked to Trump Campaign", not "Trump campaign linked to Russian spies".
And yes, that is an important difference: Who was the initiator. I am quite sure the headline maker didn't think about that though.


Also, what does "ultra-conservative" mean?
I can think of 3 possibilities:
A) Either they still want to ban printing presses and punish owning one by death, like the Catholic church in France did (which didn't work so well so Queen Anne in England invented copyright as a more effective censoring system)
B) people with heavy dementia
C) Racists, but we can't call them that because they are going to complain to our advertisers.
C) I think the preferred term is "Anglo-Saxon heritage", aka, White Nationalism. The heritage thing does not stand up to really any level of historical scrutiny, but that is beside the point. It is a political desire/reaction to a changing world and idealization of a non-existant past. Mix in people like Cruz who see it as a convenient lever to wield political power and stir the pot as necessary.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7753 on: April 19, 2021, 01:05:29 PM »
I think the preferred term is "Anglo-Saxon heritage"

So.... they want to repel Norman invaders, build castles, and establish an oppressive feudal system over the serfs?

How ever will they feel when the news of what happened in 1066 catches up with them?

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7754 on: April 19, 2021, 01:11:41 PM »
I think the preferred term is "Anglo-Saxon heritage"

So.... they want to repel Norman invaders, build castles, and establish an oppressive feudal system over the serfs?

How ever will they feel when the news of what happened in 1066 catches up with them?

They'll call it fake news and blame the liberal education industry.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7755 on: April 19, 2021, 03:10:07 PM »
Any progress on criminal investigations of T?    He needs to be securely tucked away in federal prison in about 2 1/2 years...

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7756 on: April 20, 2021, 10:23:07 AM »
I think the preferred term is "Anglo-Saxon heritage"

So.... they want to repel Norman invaders, build castles, and establish an oppressive feudal system over the serfs?

How ever will they feel when the news of what happened in 1066 catches up with them?
Would that make the current citizenry become serfer dudes and dudettes?

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7757 on: April 20, 2021, 06:17:29 PM »
I think the preferred term is "Anglo-Saxon heritage"

So.... they want to repel Norman invaders, build castles, and establish an oppressive feudal system over the serfs?

How ever will they feel when the news of what happened in 1066 catches up with them?

Build Walls? Check.

Keep foreigners away? Check.

Have others toil away their lives to support their greed? check.

Guess they were on to something.
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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7758 on: April 23, 2021, 03:58:22 PM »
Thought Experiment: Imagine on April 15, 2017, Trump proposed expanding the Supreme Court to 13 members.  How many replies would this topic receive.

Yeah, I would have exploded in rage.
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Of course I feel compelled to point out the obvious here - Biden hasn't proposed expanding the Supreme Court. He's created a committee tasked with writing what's essentially a research paper on ways which the supreme court could be reformed. It's got 36 members and it's findings are just an analysis - not proposed legislation. The committee is actually notable in that there's some heavy-hitting conservative legal minds on it in addition to a bunch of centrist and progressive scholars.
I think they need to review some of the aspects of the court, Justice Barret has been on the court for less than a year, has very little litigation experience and just got a book deal with a 2mil advance. Clarence Thomas' wife is a right wing activist. You can't tell me that either one of them is impartial.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7759 on: April 23, 2021, 06:57:40 PM »
I'm surprised it took this long. He's been out of office for 3 months. City of Albuquerque refers Trump campaign bill to collection agency

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7760 on: April 24, 2021, 03:53:27 AM »
Why would anyone, company or city not demand payment up front from a known bankrupty?

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7761 on: April 24, 2021, 05:42:40 AM »
Why would anyone, company or city not demand payment up front from a known bankrupty?

Truly, it is one of the things about him that has confused me the most, even before he ran for office. He has a decades-long history of not paying bills and stiffing contractors. Everyone should know better than to do any sort of business with him.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7762 on: April 24, 2021, 08:35:53 AM »
Why would anyone, company or city not demand payment up front from a known bankrupty?

My understanding is that the bills he owes primarily come from emergency services like the police being used for security and managing traffic. These aren't costs that are negotiated beforehand, they're costs that local governments incur because they think it's necessary to keep people safe.

That said, it's standard practice to bill campaigns and event organizers for these costs. Most people with integrity pay up. When they don't, they're taking money from the police department, so... defunding the police?

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7763 on: April 26, 2021, 04:53:28 AM »
Why would anyone, company or city not demand payment up front from a known bankrupty?
Because if you want to get re-elected, you don't want Trump crying "censoring!!!" on Twitter about you.

But that is good! That is the Free Market working! If people don't pay nobody will give them any credit, right?

Not like in Socialist countries, where the government does nothing except setting up a whole omni-survaillance system just to make sure people pay their bills (that is the official reason for the social credit score system, and it actually has a point because that is a huge problem in China.)

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7764 on: April 28, 2021, 04:07:07 AM »
Why would anyone, company or city not demand payment up front from a known bankrupty?

Truly, it is one of the things about him that has confused me the most, even before he ran for office. He has a decades-long history of not paying bills and stiffing contractors. Everyone should know better than to do any sort of business with him.

I know right? Surely a quick check of his credit score ...

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7765 on: April 28, 2021, 09:47:45 AM »
Why would anyone, company or city not demand payment up front from a known bankrupty?

Why does anyone make a deal with the devil?

"Surely, that won't happen to ME!"

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7766 on: April 28, 2021, 10:19:44 AM »
I love how comparatively little action this thread gets compared to last year.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7767 on: April 28, 2021, 10:49:03 AM »
I love how comparatively little action this thread gets compared to last year.

I do wonder if this is our 'new normal', or if this is just a brief respite before the next tempest.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7768 on: April 28, 2021, 11:10:14 AM »
I love how comparatively little action this thread gets compared to last year.

I do wonder if this is our 'new normal', or if this is just a brief respite before the next tempest.

It depends on how effective Trump is in stacking the deck and winning the House.

Trump is running someone against the GA SoS, also a Republican, who didn't kowtow to his "find the votes" plea. That'll be a real shitshow if the Democrat wins again in 2022 and the SoS refuses to certify the vote, or decides to throw out (black) Atlanta votes, or chooses to do a re-vote in certain counties.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7770 on: April 28, 2021, 11:30:08 AM »
Meanwhile...
Federal agents have executed a search warrant of  Rudy Giuliani's manhattan home as part of an ongoing investigation about whether Giuliani acted as an unregistered foreign agent to Russia on behalf of Donald Trump.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7771 on: April 28, 2021, 01:39:03 PM »
I love how comparatively little action this thread gets compared to last year.

I do wonder if this is our 'new normal', or if this is just a brief respite before the next tempest.
I follow professor Heather Cox Richardson and she still seems quite concerned about The Big Lie and the work to undermine democracy in this country.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7772 on: April 28, 2021, 03:00:55 PM »
Meanwhile...
Federal agents have executed a search warrant of  Rudy Giuliani's manhattan home as part of an ongoing investigation about whether Giuliani acted as an unregistered foreign agent to Russia on behalf of Donald Trump.

My head hurts just thinking about what they might find in there...

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7773 on: April 28, 2021, 05:30:35 PM »
Meanwhile...
Federal agents have executed a search warrant of  Rudy Giuliani's manhattan home as part of an ongoing investigation about whether Giuliani acted as an unregistered foreign agent to Russia on behalf of Donald Trump.

My head hurts just thinking about what they might find in there...

So much. The Best Stuff. You can't make this up.

And the agents should follow DJT's words:
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Don't tell me it doesn't work. Torture works. Okay, folks?

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7774 on: April 29, 2021, 12:00:10 PM »
I love how comparatively little action this thread gets compared to last year.

I no longer allow myself to click on any link with the word "Trump" in it...apart from this thread. You guys are my lifeline to...

Let's use the word "connection"...drama. And I am so excited about the Giuliani criminal exposure. I remember when I was a student at Northwestern, and he was circulating to promote a book in 2005. He was greeted as a celebrity, and was already (behind the scenes) fund-raising for a Presidential try. He seems so degraded and disgraced now. And it's going to be hard for him to pay his own attorneys when it seems his most important client isn't interested in paying him:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/trump-doesnt-want-to-pay-stiff-giuliani-legal-fees.html

I will also add that I think Giuliani deserves quite a bit of credit for making Trump seem so un-threatened by the 2019 impeachment threat. Whatever he was doing on TV during that time absolutely bolstered the firewall of conservative support that delivered fifty Senate votes against removal in early 2020.


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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7775 on: April 29, 2021, 01:10:54 PM »
One more piece that people who are elated about Giuliani's current troubles will enjoy:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/rudy-giuliani-trump-see-ya-dude.html

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7776 on: April 30, 2021, 03:30:51 AM »
Meanwhile...
Federal agents have executed a search warrant of  Rudy Giuliani's manhattan home as part of an ongoing investigation about whether Giuliani acted as an unregistered foreign agent to Russia on behalf of Donald Trump.

My head hurts just thinking about what they might find in there...

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7777 on: April 30, 2021, 08:12:14 AM »
I frequently interact with a co-worker who supports Trump.

He contacted me today so angry about Joe Manchin's wife being appointed to a government board--some kind of Appalachian thing--and being paid a salary of $160,000/year. Yeah, I'm glad that bothers him when it's the wife of a Democratic Senator.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7778 on: April 30, 2021, 08:17:50 AM »
I'm assuming that you replied with uncaptioned photos of Ivanka and Jared. And that the point was completely lost on CW.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7779 on: April 30, 2021, 08:49:57 AM »
I'm assuming that you replied with uncaptioned photos of Ivanka and Jared. And that the point was completely lost on CW.

Or a photo of Trump's secretary of transportation, a.k.a. Mrs. McConnell.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7780 on: April 30, 2021, 09:25:12 AM »
You know--funny thing--my co-worker was complaining quite a bit about Elaine Chao last month, but didn't seem to think there was anything worth mentioning when she was nominated for Transportation Secretary in 2017.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7781 on: April 30, 2021, 09:44:33 AM »
You know--funny thing--my co-worker was complaining quite a bit about Elaine Chao last month, but didn't seem to think there was anything worth mentioning when she was nominated for Transportation Secretary in 2017.

She was qualified, unlike the jewelry designer and failed real estate tycoon advising the President.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7782 on: April 30, 2021, 10:22:28 AM »
You know--funny thing--my co-worker was complaining quite a bit about Elaine Chao last month, but didn't seem to think there was anything worth mentioning when she was nominated for Transportation Secretary in 2017.

Not surprising. The hypocrisy and double-standards run deep in Trumpcult.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7783 on: April 30, 2021, 10:27:46 AM »
You know--funny thing--my co-worker was complaining quite a bit about Elaine Chao last month, but didn't seem to think there was anything worth mentioning when she was nominated for Transportation Secretary in 2017.

Not surprising. The hypocrisy and double-standards run deep in Trumpcult.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7784 on: April 30, 2021, 05:30:16 PM »
It surprises me to say this, but Chao was certainly qualified. I’m not supporting her, mind you, but she was the rare example in the trump WH who want woefully unqualified or diametrically opposed to the agencies they were appointed to lead.

Insisting on calling a woman who goes by her birth name “mrs [husbands name]” strikes me as sexist and dated. There are plenty of reasons one could be critical of Chao as an executive branch employee.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7785 on: April 30, 2021, 07:21:42 PM »
It surprises me to say this, but Chao was certainly qualified. I’m not supporting her, mind you, but she was the rare example in the trump WH who want woefully unqualified or diametrically opposed to the agencies they were appointed to lead.

Insisting on calling a woman who goes by her birth name “mrs [husbands name]” strikes me as sexist and dated. There are plenty of reasons one could be critical of Chao as an executive branch employee.

I don't disagree that Elaine Chao was qualified. I merely take issue with the hyper-partisan double standard that it is fine for a Republican president to appoint a Republican senator's wife to a high-ranking Cabinet position, but wrong for a Democratic president to do the same.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7787 on: May 01, 2021, 03:32:00 PM »
Seriously?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-christie-donald-trump-presidency-rating_n_608d0d34e4b05af50dc3acf1

Chris Christie has already announced that he's planning on running for president in 2024. The game for sucking up and getting Trump's blessing begins now.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7788 on: May 01, 2021, 03:55:07 PM »
Seriously?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-christie-donald-trump-presidency-rating_n_608d0d34e4b05af50dc3acf1

Chris Christie has already announced that he's planning on running for president in 2024. The game for sucking up and getting Trump's blessing begins now.

Is it just me or is politics evil and sickening?

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7789 on: May 01, 2021, 04:52:57 PM »
Seriously?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-christie-donald-trump-presidency-rating_n_608d0d34e4b05af50dc3acf1

Chris Christie has already announced that he's planning on running for president in 2024. The game for sucking up and getting Trump's blessing begins now.

Good lord.  It’s like the GOP is going out of its way to promote candidates that will have the hardest time attracting independent and ‘soft’ democrats.  Double-down on tossing red-meat to their steadily shrinking base. 

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7790 on: May 01, 2021, 05:37:28 PM »
Seriously?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-christie-donald-trump-presidency-rating_n_608d0d34e4b05af50dc3acf1

Chris Christie has already announced that he's planning on running for president in 2024. The game for sucking up and getting Trump's blessing begins now.

Good lord.  It’s like the GOP is going out of its way to promote candidates that will have the hardest time attracting independent and ‘soft’ democrats.  Double-down on tossing red-meat to their steadily shrinking base.

The senate and house are both slanted Republican.  If you can rule with a minority, why would you try to win a majority.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/republicans-can-govern-without-winning-a-majority-that-threatens-our-entire-democracy/

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7791 on: May 01, 2021, 06:06:58 PM »
Just seems like winning the WH would be a priority.  Otherwise they are reduced to playing spoiler, with only moderate effectiveness. 

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7792 on: May 01, 2021, 08:34:16 PM »
Seriously?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-christie-donald-trump-presidency-rating_n_608d0d34e4b05af50dc3acf1

Chris Christie has already announced that he's planning on running for president in 2024. The game for sucking up and getting Trump's blessing begins now.

Good lord.  It’s like the GOP is going out of its way to promote candidates that will have the hardest time attracting independent and ‘soft’ democrats.  Double-down on tossing red-meat to their steadily shrinking base.

Important points to remember:
-Trump got elected playing to the populist/blue collar/racist/conspiracy population
-He only lost the second time because the Democrats got the governors, legislatures, election boards, and courts to all cheat for them  (edit: From the perspective of Trump supporters)
-Other conspiracy theorists and sociopaths got elected to Congress
-He still has influence over local races
-The electoral college is stacked to favor Republicans

In other words, they don't see the last 6 months as a failure of their plans and policies. This was a setback, and before Lady Gaga even got on a plane to go home the legislatures of Arizona, Georgia, and Texas were already writing new election laws to make sure it never happens again.  Even the people that Trump has publicly thrown under the bus don't mind their treatment if there is a sliver of the party staying in power.
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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7793 on: May 01, 2021, 08:47:42 PM »
Seriously?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-christie-donald-trump-presidency-rating_n_608d0d34e4b05af50dc3acf1

Chris Christie has already announced that he's planning on running for president in 2024. The game for sucking up and getting Trump's blessing begins now.

Good lord.  It’s like the GOP is going out of its way to promote candidates that will have the hardest time attracting independent and ‘soft’ democrats.  Double-down on tossing red-meat to their steadily shrinking base.

Important points to remember:
-Trump got elected playing to the populist/blue collar/racist/conspiracy population
-He only lost the second time because the Democrats got the governors, legislatures, election boards, and courts to all cheat for them
-Other conspiracy theorists and sociopaths got elected to Congress
-He still has influence over local races
-The electoral college is stacked to favor Republicans

In other words, they don't see the last 6 months as a failure of their plans and policies. Even the people that Trump has publicly thrown under the bus don't mind their treatment if there is a sliver of the party staying in power.

Lol, ok, Dems cheating? When the court system was stacked with GOP judges? And won the states AZ, GA, and WI which are all GOP controlled states? Get out of here with that nonsense.

It was close because as you said, the deck is stacked for the GOP and Biden had to win by overwhelming numbers just to barely skirt a win.

At least moving forward, there's an outside chance that the National Popular Vote will be in effect in 2024, but I anticipate that it will be in effect by 2028 or 2032. And then the GOP will have to actually appeal to actual people in order to ever have control again.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7794 on: May 01, 2021, 08:49:06 PM »
Seriously?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-christie-donald-trump-presidency-rating_n_608d0d34e4b05af50dc3acf1

Chris Christie has already announced that he's planning on running for president in 2024. The game for sucking up and getting Trump's blessing begins now.

Good lord.  It’s like the GOP is going out of its way to promote candidates that will have the hardest time attracting independent and ‘soft’ democrats.  Double-down on tossing red-meat to their steadily shrinking base.

Important points to remember:
-Trump got elected playing to the populist/blue collar/racist/conspiracy population
-He only lost the second time because the Democrats got the governors, legislatures, election boards, and courts to all cheat for them
-Other conspiracy theorists and sociopaths got elected to Congress
-He still has influence over local races
-The electoral college is stacked to favor Republicans

In other words, they don't see the last 6 months as a failure of their plans and policies. Even the people that Trump has publicly thrown under the bus don't mind their treatment if there is a sliver of the party staying in power.

Lol, ok, Dems cheating? When the court system was stacked with GOP judges? And won the states AZ, GA, and WI which are all GOP controlled states? Get out of here with that nonsense.

It was close because as you said, the deck is stacked for the GOP and Biden had to win by overwhelming numbers just to barely skirt a win.

At least moving forward, there's an outside chance that the National Popular Vote will be in effect in 2024, but I anticipate that it will be in effect by 2028 or 2032. And then the GOP will have to actually appeal to actual people in order to ever have control again.

Sorry, I didn't think I needed to point out that was sarcasm.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7795 on: May 01, 2021, 08:58:30 PM »
Seriously?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-christie-donald-trump-presidency-rating_n_608d0d34e4b05af50dc3acf1

Chris Christie has already announced that he's planning on running for president in 2024. The game for sucking up and getting Trump's blessing begins now.

Good lord.  It’s like the GOP is going out of its way to promote candidates that will have the hardest time attracting independent and ‘soft’ democrats.  Double-down on tossing red-meat to their steadily shrinking base.

Important points to remember:
-Trump got elected playing to the populist/blue collar/racist/conspiracy population
-He only lost the second time because the Democrats got the governors, legislatures, election boards, and courts to all cheat for them
-Other conspiracy theorists and sociopaths got elected to Congress
-He still has influence over local races
-The electoral college is stacked to favor Republicans

In other words, they don't see the last 6 months as a failure of their plans and policies. Even the people that Trump has publicly thrown under the bus don't mind their treatment if there is a sliver of the party staying in power.

Lol, ok, Dems cheating? When the court system was stacked with GOP judges? And won the states AZ, GA, and WI which are all GOP controlled states? Get out of here with that nonsense.

It was close because as you said, the deck is stacked for the GOP and Biden had to win by overwhelming numbers just to barely skirt a win.

At least moving forward, there's an outside chance that the National Popular Vote will be in effect in 2024, but I anticipate that it will be in effect by 2028 or 2032. And then the GOP will have to actually appeal to actual people in order to ever have control again.

Sorry, I didn't think I needed to point out that was sarcasm.

Hah well, the rest of your post I completely agree with so that's why I didn't think it was sarcasm.

I don't believe that there is any GOP Senator or Governor that actually believes Dems cheated, but they'll all be screaming about it during the next campaign.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7796 on: May 01, 2021, 09:53:06 PM »
Question:

Q believes that Trump knew that the Democrats were going to cheat so he put a UV "watermark" on all the ballots to prevent the Democrats from sneaking in new, fraudulent, ones. (Like the ones brought in by ship from North Korea.)

The AZ recount is/was using UV lights to determine if the ballots were real.

What goes through their minds when NONE of the ballots have any UV "watermark"? Do they think, "Ok, maybe that wasn't true." Or do they double down, "Holy shit! The entire AZ election was fraudulent...all the votes cast were replaced by the Democrats!!1111!"

I'm leaning towards the latter.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7797 on: May 01, 2021, 11:09:42 PM »
Sorry, I didn't think I needed to point out that was sarcasm.

I had to read it twice to get that, but it wasn’t obvious at first.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7798 on: May 02, 2021, 04:49:17 AM »
Question:

Q believes that Trump knew that the Democrats were going to cheat so he put a UV "watermark" on all the ballots to prevent the Democrats from sneaking in new, fraudulent, ones. (Like the ones brought in by ship from North Korea.)

The AZ recount is/was using UV lights to determine if the ballots were real.

What goes through their minds when NONE of the ballots have any UV "watermark"? Do they think, "Ok, maybe that wasn't true." Or do they double down, "Holy shit! The entire AZ election was fraudulent...all the votes cast were replaced by the Democrats!!1111!"

I'm leaning towards the latter.

The only reason they're doing this recount is because they have the preconceived notion that it's true. Georgia had three recounts and their legislature still believes it was rigged.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #7799 on: May 02, 2021, 04:53:29 AM »
Question:

Q believes that Trump knew that the Democrats were going to cheat so he put a UV "watermark" on all the ballots to prevent the Democrats from sneaking in new, fraudulent, ones. (Like the ones brought in by ship from North Korea.)

The AZ recount is/was using UV lights to determine if the ballots were real.

What goes through their minds when NONE of the ballots have any UV "watermark"? Do they think, "Ok, maybe that wasn't true." Or do they double down, "Holy shit! The entire AZ election was fraudulent...all the votes cast were replaced by the Democrats!!1111!"

I'm leaning towards the latter.

The only reason they're doing this recount is because they have the preconceived notion that it's true. Georgia had three recounts and their legislature still believes it was rigged.

I’m skeptical they actually believe it themselves.  Sure, they go on TV and make outrageous statements at rallies, but look at their actions - they are just going through the motions with regard to recounts.  They’ve accepted that BIden is president and aren’t making plans for any ‘great reversal’ of the 2020 election.

I think they feel forced to say such things so they don’t lose their base, but then they just go about being and believing they are the minority party now.