Trump outrage of the day

[MudPuppy]

TVA

I was talking to my spouse and ILs about this over the weekend. They come from an area west of the Mississippi without an electric cooperative and thought I was kidding about how the electricity is here.

[Roadrunner53]

Seriously, is there a special FLIP FLOP school these people go to?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mitch-mcconnell-now-says-hed-absolutely-support-trump-in-2024-after-savaging-him-for-capitol-attack/ar-BB1e3gIY

[GuitarStv]

Seriously, is there a special FLIP FLOP school these people go to?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mitch-mcconnell-now-says-hed-absolutely-support-trump-in-2024-after-savaging-him-for-capitol-attack/ar-BB1e3gIY

They're just doing what the people who vote for them demand.  The people who vote Republican were very vocal about their disappointment that the US government was not recently overthrown by their coup.

Why stand in the way of what your base wants?

[frugalnacho]

I know the GOP is a bunch of self serving liars with absolutely no morals, but I don't even understand backing Trump still.  He fucking lost, he's a loser.  He lost the house, senate, and the presidency, and is possibly in legal trouble.  Why are they still aligning with him?  I know he still has his base, but we've just shown that's not enough to retain power.  I hope the entire party implodes under its own stupidity. 

[Sandi_k]

I know the GOP is a bunch of self serving liars with absolutely no morals, but I don't even understand backing Trump still.  He fucking lost, he's a loser.  He lost the house, senate, and the presidency, and is possibly in legal trouble.  Why are they still aligning with him? 

One word: Money. They wrote out $300m+ in donations to the T "legal fund" in December 2020.

The base isn't big enough to win the presidency, but it did a remarkable job in the Senate, and they've sewn up SCOTUS. If they can continue to disenfranchise voters in places like Michigan. Georgia and TX, it's good enough to stay in power in the Senate and House - and rake in the bucks until the person in question "retires" to become a lobbyist.

[OtherJen]

You really cannot make up this shit: This golden statue of Trump at CPAC is a perfect metaphor for the state of the GOP

I know I've been an out and proud atheist for nearly a decade, but I did spend most of my life as an active participant in Catholic worship and education. I definitely remember something about golden idols being a bad idea...

[Travis]

I hope the entire party implodes under its own stupidity.

They have a lock on too many states for that to happen.

[jehovasfitness23]

You really cannot make up this shit: This golden statue of Trump at CPAC is a perfect metaphor for the state of the GOP

I know I've been an out and proud atheist for nearly a decade, but I did spend most of my life as an active participant in Catholic worship and education. I definitely remember something about golden idols being a bad idea...

it's not a cult. /sarcasm

[Alfred J Quack]

You really cannot make up this shit: This golden statue of Trump at CPAC is a perfect metaphor for the state of the GOP

I know I've been an out and proud atheist for nearly a decade, but I did spend most of my life as an active participant in Catholic worship and education. I definitely remember something about golden idols being a bad idea...

it's not a cult. /sarcasm

Wouldn't a sect designation be more appropriate by now?

[partgypsy]

I thought for sure someone would have mentioned this: the stage of cpac in the shape of a hate symbol/icon used by nazis and white supremacists? https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN2AS0R2

[talltexan]

Just coincidental.

[talltexan]

I believe Trump is only influential if the media give him coverage, so I've very intentionally not clicked on any link with the name "Trump" in the headline. I didn't watch the speech yesterday, but I saw the headline about him listing the names of members of Congress who voted to impeach/remove him, and I must admit, wow!

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/28/us/politics/trump-cpac-republicans.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

I'm trying to understand why someone would do this. I'm trying to understand how we got to the point where so many people think this is normal and desirable in a country with anything approaching democratic values. It seems positively authoritarian.

I've been ignoring him, but I'm starting to worry whether it's truly safe to do so.

[GuitarStv]

Just coincidental.

Maybe.

Republicans have been very openly embracing white supremacy for some time now . . . so I could see it being a conscious choice that someone made and thought there was plausible deniability for.  That seems at least as likely as an accident at this point.  Can't say definitively one way or another though.

I believe Trump is only influential if the media give him coverage, so I've very intentionally not clicked on any link with the name "Trump" in the headline. I didn't watch the speech yesterday, but I saw the headline about him listing the names of members of Congress who voted to impeach/remove him, and I must admit, wow!

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/28/us/politics/trump-cpac-republicans.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

I'm trying to understand why someone would do this. I'm trying to understand how we got to the point where so many people think this is normal and desirable in a country with anything approaching democratic values. It seems positively authoritarian.

I've been ignoring him, but I'm starting to worry whether it's truly safe to do so.

According to every poll and survey, Trump is pretty much the heart and soul of the Republican Party.  His every action is MASSIVELY popular among Republican voters.  I'm not sure that simply ignoring what just under half the country believes in is a safe decision to make.

[talltexan]

Two very important signals for the paleo-conservative Trump movement have been removed, however: Trump's twitter presence, and the Rush Limbaugh radio voice. Sure other things exist, but it's a lot harder for this movement to coordinate now than it was on Jan. 5, 2021. I suppose we'll learn whether this is true on March 4.

[Alfred J Quack]

This is a good point.  I live in a state where there is a $5/month/kW fee for solar power.  We don't get quite enough sun for a completely off-grid system to be feasible so the power company charges a fee to offset the amount that you wouldn't be paying them for.

To be fair, power you are generating but not using goes back into the grid which the grid companies need to balance their output to.

In my country (the Netherlands) you get to correct your usage with your over production at 0 extra cost. However, if you produce more than you're actually using you can get 7 to 8 eurocents per kWh rather than the tariff you're paying (around 20-22). Reason being that the difference is taxes and costs to keep the network running and balanced.
This tax-free correction is going to be replaced with a more similar system you are describing though. If on a summer day I produce more than I use, I get a few cents per kWh and pay full price when I use more (like in the evening). But, my system is way to small to make a Powerwall or some such viable :(

[LennStar]

Just coincidental.

Maybe.

Republicans have been very openly embracing white supremacy for some time now . . . so I could see it being a conscious choice that someone made and thought there was plausible deniability for.  That seems at least as likely as an accident at this point.  Can't say definitively one way or another though.

I believe Trump is only influential if the media give him coverage, so I've very intentionally not clicked on any link with the name "Trump" in the headline. I didn't watch the speech yesterday, but I saw the headline about him listing the names of members of Congress who voted to impeach/remove him, and I must admit, wow!

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/28/us/politics/trump-cpac-republicans.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

I'm trying to understand why someone would do this. I'm trying to understand how we got to the point where so many people think this is normal and desirable in a country with anything approaching democratic values. It seems positively authoritarian.

I've been ignoring him, but I'm starting to worry whether it's truly safe to do so.

According to every poll and survey, Trump is pretty much the heart and soul of the Republican Party.  His every action is MASSIVELY popular among Republican voters.  I'm not sure that simply ignoring what just under half the country believes in is a safe decision to make.

There is a lot of "hidden" signaling, but this one is rediculous. You must be fairly deep into it to even know that sign. Then it is upside down and you need fantasy to see it out of the structure.
Way too much brain for the right wing nuts ;)

Such a thing happened before, even several times. I think even Obama once had an arrangement in the background with something from the gas champer unit?
It is simply impossible to completely avoid a multitude of quite simple structures even if you tried to. Not to mention people who don't knwo the difference between a Hitler Swastika and the map symbol for a temple on Japanese maps (they wanted to change it for the Olympics, don't know if that happened).

That Trump is a total authoritarian and his fans love him for exactly that - I am surprised anybody can be surprised about that though. Ever heard of Victor Orban for example? Same stuff. Everywhere in the world. A certain, big part of the people just loves a "strong man" that goes against "the others". And they only care about democracy if they are the ones that have the vote. Demoracy is not a value in itself, it is only one of several to serve their needs. If a different method looks better...

It's strange that people can clearly see it when it happens in China, but not when it happens in their own country.

[talltexan]

I understood not wanting to spread COVID across the globe via an Olympic games, but I'm tired of waiting for Simone Biles to take her rightful place at the top of the medal podium in gymnastics. Maybe we could just have the gymnists compete?

[nereo]

I understood not wanting to spread COVID across the globe via an Olympic games, but I'm tired of waiting for Simone Biles to take her rightful place at the top of the medal podium in gymnastics. Maybe we could just have the gymnists compete?

At the risk of veering wildly off-topic, this is yet another example of why the Olympics needs to abandon the "single-city, rotational" approach to the games.

The games are now way too big, way too costly, and the events too varied to be successfully carried out by a single host-city (or even nation) even during non-pandemic times.

[talltexan]

I think Donald Trump is the first American President since Jimmy Carter to not have the US compete in a summer Olympic games during his time in the White House. So this is completely in line with the topic. Trump failed us in yet another area.

[nereo]

I think Donald Trump is the first American President since Jimmy Carter to not have the US compete in a summer Olympic games during his time in the White House. So this is completely in line with the topic. Trump failed us in yet another area.

I'm all for blaming Trump for stuff... but hard to see how any US President could have saved this Olympic games (hosted overseas).
;-P

[GuitarStv]

I think Donald Trump is the first American President since Jimmy Carter to not have the US compete in a summer Olympic games during his time in the White House. So this is completely in line with the topic. Trump failed us in yet another area.

While I'm not a fan of Trump, seems a bit of a stretch to place the blame for this squarely at his feet.  :P

[OtherJen]

I think Donald Trump is the first American President since Jimmy Carter to not have the US compete in a summer Olympic games during his time in the White House. So this is completely in line with the topic. Trump failed us in yet another area.

I'm all for blaming Trump for stuff... but hard to see how any US President could have saved this Olympic games (hosted overseas).
;-P

Yeah...hard to send a team if the event itself has been postponed.

[bacchi]

In Texas vernacular, y'all are missing the sarcasm.

Edit: Or humor. Y'all are missing the humor. Either way, I suspect that what talltexan wrote is not literal.

[GuitarStv]

In Texas vernacular, y'all are missing the sarcasm.

Edit: Or humor. Y'all are missing the humor. Either way, I suspect that what talltexan wrote is not literal.

Thanks, Obama.

[frugalnacho]

[talltexan]

In Texas vernacular, y'all are missing the sarcasm.

Edit: Or humor. Y'all are missing the humor. Either way, I suspect that what talltexan wrote is not literal.

Jimmy Carter: made the decision to boycott 1980 Olympics in Moscow. It was done in protest of Soviets' invasion of Afghanistan. Whose fault was it? Carter or USSRs?

Donald Trump: During his time as President, the US failed to contain a SARS-based covorona virus despite years of policy and vaccine infrastructure build out by the two preceding Presidents. The US pulled out of the WHO at a moment when WHO coordination could have lessened the impact of the virus globally. That virus impact proved so substantial that host-Japan asked to postpone the games. 

Look, I know this thread is devoted to hating on Trump, so don't we owe it to ourselves to examine the blame he might deserve for the games' postponement?

[Taran Wanderer]

In Texas vernacular, y'all are missing the sarcasm.

Edit: Or humor. Y'all are missing the humor. Either way, I suspect that what talltexan wrote is not literal.

Thanks, Obama.

Obama?  What?  No. Blame Canada!

[GuitarStv]

In Texas vernacular, y'all are missing the sarcasm.

Edit: Or humor. Y'all are missing the humor. Either way, I suspect that what talltexan wrote is not literal.

Thanks, Obama.

Obama?  What?  No. Blame Canada!

Leave America's hat out of this!

[EscapeVelocity2020]

In Texas vernacular, y'all are missing the sarcasm.

Edit: Or humor. Y'all are missing the humor. Either way, I suspect that what talltexan wrote is not literal.

Thanks, Obama.

Obama?  What?  No. Blame Canada!

Leave America's hat out of this!

Unless Canada becomes a cowboy 10 gallon hat, screw em :)

[Dancin'Dog]

I think Donald Trump is the first American President since Jimmy Carter to not have the US compete in a summer Olympic games during his time in the White House. So this is completely in line with the topic. Trump failed us in yet another area.

While I'm not a fan of Trump, seems a bit of a stretch to place the blame for this squarely at his feet.  :P

But, if enough of us repeat it on the internet it becomes true.  Just ask Qanon & the other Trump fan clubs.

[Travis]

I think Donald Trump is the first American President since Jimmy Carter to not have the US compete in a summer Olympic games during his time in the White House. So this is completely in line with the topic. Trump failed us in yet another area.

While I'm not a fan of Trump, seems a bit of a stretch to place the blame for this squarely at his feet.  :P

But, if enough of us repeat it on the internet it becomes true.  Just ask Qanon & the other Trump fan clubs.

The election was stolen. Didn't you get the memo? If not, Trump and Cruz made sure to remind everyone this week.

[talltexan]

Cruz had to swing through mexico to check out a ballot-harvesting operation where the Spanish affiliate of Dominion owned a warehouse.

[OtherJen]

In Texas vernacular, y'all are missing the sarcasm.

Edit: Or humor. Y'all are missing the humor. Either way, I suspect that what talltexan wrote is not literal.

Thanks, Obama.

Obama?  What?  No. Blame Canada!

Leave America's hat out of this!

Unless Canada becomes a cowboy 10 gallon hat, screw em :)

What if Trump is actually Canadian?

[LennStar]

I understood not wanting to spread COVID across the globe via an Olympic games, but I'm tired of waiting for Simone Biles to take her rightful place at the top of the medal podium in gymnastics. Maybe we could just have the gymnists compete?

At the risk of veering wildly off-topic, this is yet another example of why the Olympics needs to abandon the "single-city, rotational" approach to the games.

The games are now way too big, way too costly, and the events too varied to be successfully carried out by a single host-city (or even nation) even during non-pandemic times.

That would never happen. If you spread out the games, the whole bribery system would break down. The IOC is never going to do that!

What if Trump is actually Canadian?

Since then he could not have bcome president, that means everything he did as president would automatically be reversed? Would save a lot of time!

[nereo]

What if Trump is actually Canadian?

Since then he could not have bcome president, that means everything he did as president would automatically be reversed? Would save a lot of time!

That, in a nut shell, explains why many chose to pursue the ‘birther’ conspiracy pushed by Trump.  And racism.

[talltexan]

Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but he seems to be getting along just fine in American politics. Re-elected to US Senate and runner-up in 2016 Republican primary.

[GuitarStv]

Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but he seems to be getting along just fine in American politics. Re-elected to US Senate and runner-up in 2016 Republican primary.

I'll talk to someone here and add him to the list.


Canada officially apologizes for:
- Celine Dion
- Nickelback
- Ted Cruz
Sorry world, our bad.

[OtherJen]

Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but he seems to be getting along just fine in American politics. Re-elected to US Senate and runner-up in 2016 Republican primary.

See, it's fine if you're born outside of the US to a born-American mother, even if your father is not American and you're born in a country where neither of your parents are current citizens, as long as you're white and they give you a "non-foreign" nickname (e.g., Ted). No one will ever question your eligibility for the presidency.

(But if you're black and born on US soil to a born-American mother, who then gives you a non-foreign nickname like Barry, and you're partly raised by your WWII vet grandfather, then apparently your citizenship status is suspect because of course your absent non-white, non-citizen father overrides all of your US relatives and their influences.)

[Alfred J Quack]

Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but he seems to be getting along just fine in American politics. Re-elected to US Senate and runner-up in 2016 Republican primary.

I'll talk to someone here and add him to the list.


Canada officially apologizes for:
- Celine Dion
- Nickelback
- Ted Cruz
Sorry world, our bad.

Wait, what?! Nickleback isn't actually that bad, if you censor out the balads...

[Sandi_k]

Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but he seems to be getting along just fine in American politics. Re-elected to US Senate and runner-up in 2016 Republican primary.

I'll talk to someone here and add him to the list.


Canada officially apologizes for:
- Celine Dion
- Nickelback
- Ted Cruz
Sorry world, our bad.

Don't forget Justin Bieber. ;)

[talltexan]

In spring 2008, as John McCain pulled off primary victories to save his candidacy, then Senators Clinton and Obama--who were themselves competing for the Presidency--co-sponsored a bill in the Senate declaring McCain a "Natural Born Citizen" despite his having been born outside of the US. At the time, McCain's father (a Navy Admiral) was serving our country in the Panama Canal Zone. Obama only co-sponsored this bill because the details of his own birth were so murky that he hoped to direct suspicion away from himself.

[JLee]

In spring 2008, as John McCain pulled off primary victories to save his candidacy, then Senators Clinton and Obama--who were themselves competing for the Presidency--co-sponsored a bill in the Senate declaring McCain a "Natural Born Citizen" despite his having been born outside of the US. At the time, McCain's father (a Navy Admiral) was serving our country in the Panama Canal Zone. Obama only co-sponsored this bill because the details of his own birth were so murky that he hoped to direct suspicion away from himself.

I think your tinfoil hat is slipping off - might want to adjust it.

[former player]

In spring 2008, as John McCain pulled off primary victories to save his candidacy, then Senators Clinton and Obama--who were themselves competing for the Presidency--co-sponsored a bill in the Senate declaring McCain a "Natural Born Citizen" despite his having been born outside of the US. At the time, McCain's father (a Navy Admiral) was serving our country in the Panama Canal Zone. Obama only co-sponsored this bill because the details of his own birth were so murky that he hoped to direct suspicion away from himself.

huh?

[Taran Wanderer]

🙄

That’s an eye roll emoji...

[nereo]

So my conspiracy-minded in-laws tell me today is “Inauguration Day” for Trump.

Meanwhile, the house has decided not to be in session today for fear of another attack.  The Senate will be, though...

[jehovasfitness23]

So my conspiracy-minded in-laws tell me today is “Inauguration Day” for Trump.

Meanwhile, the house has decided not to be in session today for fear of another attack.  The Senate will be, though...

sorry but LOL. I can't believe people believe this one

[Roadrunner53]

I am sure the Repugs will soon all have a miniature golden Trump statues on their desks and maybe they will have golden Trump statue necklaces too. The mini version of the statues will most likely be sold as MAGA merch at his rallies. Hahaha! Pez dispencers?

[Luke Warm]

I am sure the Repugs will soon all have a miniature golden Trump statues on their desks and maybe they will have golden Trump statue necklaces too. The mini version of the statues will most likely be sold as MAGA merch at his rallies. Hahaha! Pez dispencers?

might be a good business opportunity.

[bacchi]

I am sure the Repugs will soon all have a miniature golden Trump statues on their desks and maybe they will have golden Trump statue necklaces too. The mini version of the statues will most likely be sold as MAGA merch at his rallies. Hahaha! Pez dispencers?

might be a good business opportunity.

"Suckers LLC" dba "MAGA 4ever"

[talltexan]

Early in 2017, I heard someone compare Trump's ability to move and shape public opinion on twitter to FDR's fireside chats on the nascent medium of radio. It occurred to me then that we might be seeing the start of a 9+ year Presidency. I wondered how I would go about pulling together the resources to write a book arguing that Trump would run for and win a third term.

A combination of my own laziness and horror at his policies meant I never really explored this. It's easy for me to view the activity on this thread and believe I could have pulled together $30,000 or more via a GoFundMe for such a book.