Hmmm. I was just referring to Trump's history of pussy grabbing and applying it to a person of the same gender . . . why do you assume that homosexuality somehow debases a person?
I don't see homosexuality as something insulting, sorry.
That's not what Nereo is saying. And I also found your original comment uncomfortable.
No, that is exactly what he's talking about. He was very explicit.
Nereo first said that it is debasing to say that a person may act upon homosexual feelings. Then he argued that even implying a person could be gay is an insult to that person. Frankly, neither sit well with me.
There's nothing wrong with being gay or acting in a gay manner - it's perfectly normal. So where is the insult / debasement?
I've been thinking a lot about this. Either being gay is something bad/wrong as Nereo argues (which would make my initial comment an insult) or it's perfectly OK to be gay and nothing I said was wrong. You can't really have it both ways. If we were discussing Michelle Pence, and Trump wanting to grab her in heterosexual fervor . . . then there would be no problem. Why? Because heterosexuality is not dirty/insulting/debasing. But neither is homosexuality!
Really, the uncomfortable part should be the lack of consent bit - something that Trump has always been happy to brag about.
Am I out to lunch on this (I often am)? Does treating homosexuality the same way as heterosexuality make me a homophobe as Nereo argued?
If you would like to continue this conversation, feel free to PM me. I don't want to derail this too much longer.
But No, that is not at all what I was saying.
This is a thread discussing Trump's latest outrage (inherently negative things). There is absolutely no indication of homoerotic actions occuring between Mike Pence and Donald Trump, so to combine the two (criticisms of Trump) with suggestions of homoerotic behavior comes off as gay slander.
Let's put it this way: saying "Brokeback Mountain is a story which involves the homoerotic emotion" is both true and fine. Suggesting two leaders you don't like must be engaging in homoerotic emotion is not, because it ties an inherent dislike of two people with being gay. It links homosexuality with a negative connotation. Does that make sense?