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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6000 on: December 11, 2020, 05:31:14 PM »
OMG! This is beautiful!

Supreme Court rejects lawsuit from Texas and Trump to overturn the election
From CNN's Ariane de Vogue

The Supreme Court acted with unusual speed to reject a bid from Texas’ attorney general— supported by President Trump — to block the ballots of millions of voters in battleground states that went in favor of President-elect Joe Biden.

The court’s move to dismiss the challenge is the strongest indication yet, that Trump has no chance of overturning election results in court that even the justices who he placed on the Supreme Court have no interest in allowing his desperate legal bids to continue.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-trump-us-election-news-12-11-20/h_0f5210649341a9c63a3fac9a6f1abdae

I am almost as happy as when it became clear that Biden won!

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6001 on: December 11, 2020, 05:38:01 PM »
So all three of Trump's SC appointees are Deep State operatives, LOL.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6002 on: December 11, 2020, 05:46:56 PM »
Wow, this tweet from four hours ago didn’t age well:

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If the Supreme Court shows great Wisdom and Courage, the American People will win perhaps the most important case in history, and our Electoral Process will be respected again!

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337494507756072961

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« Reply #6003 on: December 11, 2020, 06:08:48 PM »
Wow, this tweet from four hours ago didn’t age well:

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If the Supreme Court shows great Wisdom and Courage, the American People will win perhaps the most important case in history, and our Electoral Process will be respected again!

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337494507756072961
NO kidding.  BYE FELICIA.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6004 on: December 11, 2020, 06:29:22 PM »
Wow, this tweet from four hours ago didn’t age well:

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If the Supreme Court shows great Wisdom and Courage, the American People will win perhaps the most important case in history, and our Electoral Process will be respected again!

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337494507756072961

Again with the projecting.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6005 on: December 11, 2020, 07:05:43 PM »
Wow, this tweet from four hours ago didn’t age well:

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If the Supreme Court shows great Wisdom and Courage, the American People will win perhaps the most important case in history, and our Electoral Process will be respected again!

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337494507756072961

I’d say it aged well - just not the way Trump hoped. 
SCOTUS showed wisdom and courage to deny the case with no dissenting opinions; the American people win, and the electoral process continues (perhaps not respected, but going forward as intended).

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6006 on: December 12, 2020, 06:45:16 AM »
It’s not enough to throw an epic nationwide temper tantrum because someone else got the toy you wanted. Apparently you also need to set fire to the whole damned toy store.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6007 on: December 12, 2020, 03:00:09 PM »
Wow, this tweet from four hours ago didn’t age well:

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If the Supreme Court shows great Wisdom and Courage, the American People will win perhaps the most important case in history, and our Electoral Process will be respected again!

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337494507756072961

I’d say it aged well - just not the way Trump hoped. 
SCOTUS showed wisdom and courage to deny the case with no dissenting opinions; the American people win, and the electoral process continues (perhaps not respected, but going forward as intended).


My strong preference was that   the Court did decide  to review Texas' claim.


Given the Trump Administration's historic aberrance the Court's review of Texas' claim would have resulted in a  more muscular,  judicial denouement of Trump's presidency.

Alas, a  hearing wasn't in the cards; traditionally, the Court's exercise of its original jurisdiction is indeed sparing.

Having said this, the Court's decision not to review Texas' claim is not devoid of a sting; we need not strain to infer that it lacked "seriousness and dignity."


The Court's exercise of its original jurisdiction   “is limited and manifestly to be sparingly exercised, and should not be expanded by construction.”


It should be reserved for "appropriate cases. And the question of what is appropriate concerns of course the seriousness and dignity of the claim; yet beyond that it necessarily involves the availability of another forum where there is jurisdiction over the named parties, where the issues tendered may be litigated, and where appropriate relief may be had. We incline to a sparing use of our original jurisdiction so that our increasing duties with the appellate docket will not suffer."

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6008 on: December 12, 2020, 03:21:52 PM »
So all three of Trump's SC appointees are Deep State operatives, LOL.

Trump's constitutional illiteracy is so ingrained that he still  misapprehends that the justices he nominated have a first loyalty to him and that their judicial independence is secondary.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6009 on: December 12, 2020, 07:22:26 PM »
curiously, lots of Trump supporters believe that the SCOTUS is in on the steal as well.

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“It’s clear the election has been stolen,” said Mark Paul Jones of Delaware Water Gap, Pennsylvania, who sported a tricorner Revolutionary War hat as he walked toward the Supreme Court with his wife.

Trump “is being railroaded out of office,” he said, adding that Biden won with the complicity of the Supreme Court, FBI, Department of Justice and CIA. The Supreme Court “didn’t even take the time to hear the case,” Jones said.

I've have to wonder if the US will split in half somehow.    As long as the smaller population in rural states can enable control of the senate for the Republicans the US seems to be stuck in this gridlock.

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« Reply #6010 on: December 12, 2020, 09:49:32 PM »
curiously, lots of Trump supporters believe that the SCOTUS is in on the steal as well.

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“It’s clear the election has been stolen,” said Mark Paul Jones of Delaware Water Gap, Pennsylvania, who sported a tricorner Revolutionary War hat as he walked toward the Supreme Court with his wife.

Trump “is being railroaded out of office,” he said, adding that Biden won with the complicity of the Supreme Court, FBI, Department of Justice and CIA. The Supreme Court “didn’t even take the time to hear the case,” Jones said.

I've have to wonder if the US will split in half somehow.    As long as the smaller population in rural states can enable control of the senate for the Republicans the US seems to be stuck in this gridlock.

Moments like this make absolutely love conspiracy theories. Somehow the Biden campaign got Democrat and Republican governors, legislatures, supreme courts, federal courts full of Trump appointees, postal workers, poll workers, and the conservative-dominated US Supreme Court to all work together to get the win for Biden.  Of course if the DNC had so much control over the election, why would they rig up a win by a margin of just a few thousand votes in strategic states?

These ignorant folks are alleging the most complex and diabolical election fraud in a century, but next week they'll harp on how the Democrats are too incompetent to run the country.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6011 on: December 13, 2020, 03:04:47 AM »
curiously, lots of Trump supporters believe that the SCOTUS is in on the steal as well.

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“It’s clear the election has been stolen,” said Mark Paul Jones of Delaware Water Gap, Pennsylvania, who sported a tricorner Revolutionary War hat as he walked toward the Supreme Court with his wife.

Trump “is being railroaded out of office,” he said, adding that Biden won with the complicity of the Supreme Court, FBI, Department of Justice and CIA. The Supreme Court “didn’t even take the time to hear the case,” Jones said.

I've have to wonder if the US will split in half somehow.    As long as the smaller population in rural states can enable control of the senate for the Republicans the US seems to be stuck in this gridlock.

Moments like this make absolutely love conspiracy theories. Somehow the Biden campaign got Democrat and Republican governors, legislatures, supreme courts, federal courts full of Trump appointees, postal workers, poll workers, and the conservative-dominated US Supreme Court to all work together to get the win for Biden.  Of course if the DNC had so much control over the election, why would they rig up a win by a margin of just a few thousand votes in strategic states?

These ignorant folks are alleging the most complex and diabolical election fraud in a century, but next week they'll harp on how the Democrats are too incompetent to run the country.
If Biden had that much support, why! He could have just declared himself president without all that election trouble - and earlier too!

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6012 on: December 13, 2020, 05:46:23 AM »
curiously, lots of Trump supporters believe that the SCOTUS is in on the steal as well.

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“It’s clear the election has been stolen,” said Mark Paul Jones of Delaware Water Gap, Pennsylvania, who sported a tricorner Revolutionary War hat as he walked toward the Supreme Court with his wife.

Trump “is being railroaded out of office,” he said, adding that Biden won with the complicity of the Supreme Court, FBI, Department of Justice and CIA. The Supreme Court “didn’t even take the time to hear the case,” Jones said.

I've have to wonder if the US will split in half somehow.    As long as the smaller population in rural states can enable control of the senate for the Republicans the US seems to be stuck in this gridlock.

If the mid-Atlantic, New England, and West Coast seceded, the US would once again become the best country in the world. You could donate the remaining states to Mexico. Allow free movement for 30 days before the secession so that people can cross to their preferred areas first.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6013 on: December 13, 2020, 06:59:18 AM »
If the Democrats control the Deep State that really rules the nation, then why don’t we have universal healthcare yet? Worst Deep State ever.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6014 on: December 13, 2020, 07:43:47 AM »
Which branch of the military is supposed to remove Trump if he refuses to vacate the White House?  Will they just toss his shit out onto the sidewalk, or will he be jailed?  Will the public be allowed to throw rotten tomatoes and spit on him as they drag him away?  (I don't want to miss out on the fun.) 




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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6015 on: December 13, 2020, 07:49:27 AM »
The secret service

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6016 on: December 13, 2020, 08:46:42 AM »
Which branch of the military is supposed to remove Trump if he refuses to vacate the White House?


Please let it be SEAL team 6, please let it be SEAL team 6, please let it be SEAL team 6.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6017 on: December 13, 2020, 08:55:32 AM »
Which branch of the military is supposed to remove Trump if he refuses to vacate the White House?  Will they just toss his shit out onto the sidewalk, or will he be jailed?  Will the public be allowed to throw rotten tomatoes and spit on him as they drag him away?  (I don't want to miss out on the fun.)

I don't want to miss out on that either! Hahahaha!

He and the Republicans seem to have forgotten they work for the American People. We pay their paycheck.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6018 on: December 13, 2020, 09:28:07 AM »
curiously, lots of Trump supporters believe that the SCOTUS is in on the steal as well.

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“It’s clear the election has been stolen,” said Mark Paul Jones of Delaware Water Gap, Pennsylvania, who sported a tricorner Revolutionary War hat as he walked toward the Supreme Court with his wife.

Trump “is being railroaded out of office,” he said, adding that Biden won with the complicity of the Supreme Court, FBI, Department of Justice and CIA. The Supreme Court “didn’t even take the time to hear the case,” Jones said.

I've have to wonder if the US will split in half somehow.    As long as the smaller population in rural states can enable control of the senate for the Republicans the US seems to be stuck in this gridlock.

Moments like this make absolutely love conspiracy theories. Somehow the Biden campaign got Democrat and Republican governors, legislatures, supreme courts, federal courts full of Trump appointees, postal workers, poll workers, and the conservative-dominated US Supreme Court to all work together to get the win for Biden. Of course if the DNC had so much control over the election, why would they rig up a win by a margin of just a few thousand votes in strategic states?

These ignorant folks are alleging the most complex and diabolical election fraud in a century, but next week they'll harp on how the Democrats are too incompetent to run the country.

The narrative - pushed by Trump - is that the election was rigged to be a blowout by Biden (see "rigged" polling tghe week before) but SO MANY people came out for Trump to show their AMAZING SUPPORT that it "broke" the rigged election.  In a panic the Biden campaign turned to more drastic measures, which (shockingly) somehow left no trace other than a bunch of dodgy affidavits from random people.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6019 on: December 13, 2020, 09:51:33 AM »
If the Democrats control the Deep State that really rules the nation, then why don’t we have universal healthcare yet? Worst Deep State ever.
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« Reply #6020 on: December 13, 2020, 09:57:29 AM »
curiously, lots of Trump supporters believe that the SCOTUS is in on the steal as well.

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“It’s clear the election has been stolen,” said Mark Paul Jones of Delaware Water Gap, Pennsylvania, who sported a tricorner Revolutionary War hat as he walked toward the Supreme Court with his wife.

Trump “is being railroaded out of office,” he said, adding that Biden won with the complicity of the Supreme Court, FBI, Department of Justice and CIA. The Supreme Court “didn’t even take the time to hear the case,” Jones said.

I've have to wonder if the US will split in half somehow.    As long as the smaller population in rural states can enable control of the senate for the Republicans the US seems to be stuck in this gridlock.

Moments like this make absolutely love conspiracy theories. Somehow the Biden campaign got Democrat and Republican governors, legislatures, supreme courts, federal courts full of Trump appointees, postal workers, poll workers, and the conservative-dominated US Supreme Court to all work together to get the win for Biden.  Of course if the DNC had so much control over the election, why would they rig up a win by a margin of just a few thousand votes in strategic states?

These ignorant folks are alleging the most complex and diabolical election fraud in a century, but next week they'll harp on how the Democrats are too incompetent to run the country.

RedState.com comments have been absolutely FASCINATING this past two weeks.  The insanity is just off the charts over there.  It is absolutely accepted by all (including the site contributors and mods) that the election was stolen.  They just simply do not accept that Dems could have been motivated to get out to vote (b/c Biden is so awful), nor that anyone who voted for Trump the first time could have changed their mind, nor that people could hate Trump and what he represents enough to motivate them to turn out to vote against him (b/c in their mind, he's obviously the greatest president since Reagan).  Yet SIMULTANEOUSLY they believe in a multi state conspiracy run by Dems who are all incredibly motivated to actively destroy American just for sake of doing so?, and that this party, despite having totally unmotivated voters, is still far smarter and more organized at EVERY LEVEL OF GOV'T than the GOP is, and that therefore they cheat and win 'every single time' by using a huge array of deep state infiltrators at every possible level of government.  This despite the fact that the GOP typically controls the Senate and the majority of state governments, and picked up seats in the House in this election.

There's also a strong sub-strain that ascribes the root of this entire conspiracy to public teachers and their unions (yes, they are THAT powerful and they are ALL committed communists whose only goal is to indoctrinate your kids), or to federal employees and their union (despite the fact that many federal employees aren't even members of the union and the number of federal employees per capita has been falling over the decades and thus losing influence), or to China, etc.

There is a small subset that are convinced that The Left is literally coming to their houses and places of business to take their guns and put them or at least their kids in re-education camps and will arrest all the people who run sites like RedState.com.  As soon as Biden is inaugurated...any moment now!  (My husband just tried to get rifle ammo last week to do a deer hunt, and it was sold out all over town b/c a shooting war is going to start any minute, apparently).

I think there is a strong desire for drama running through the group...I suspect many of them wish their lives were 'bigger' and more important or lived in service to a bigger cause (which I understand, that's not an unusual feeling), and the idea of being constantly persecuted as the noble fringe underdogs is weirdly sexy to them. 

Now the conversation is trending toward secession, which I personally am not convinced wouldn't be the best endgame for the U.S., given the wild regional disparities in fundamental values that our citizens have.  As long as it could be done without violence, it would be a super interesting as a social experiment. COME ON, TEXAS, I DARE YOU! 

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6021 on: December 13, 2020, 11:00:55 AM »
Quebec has been blathering about secession forever and even when it came down to a referendum, a slim majority didn't want it, so I wouldn't hold my breath about Texas.  I agree it would be interesting though.

I love your theory about wanting to have bigger lives.  That could certainly be an explanation.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6022 on: December 13, 2020, 11:13:28 AM »
Which branch of the military is supposed to remove Trump if he refuses to vacate the White House?  Will they just toss his shit out onto the sidewalk, or will he be jailed?  Will the public be allowed to throw rotten tomatoes and spit on him as they drag him away?  (I don't want to miss out on the fun.)
Most likely he will claim presdiency in exile at the "Winter White House", also known as the closest golf course.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6023 on: December 13, 2020, 11:17:15 AM »
I am mostly curious what will happen to his Twitter account on January 21. Honestly, the bigger concern is the combination of secret information he knows coupled with massive debt and legal liabilities inside of a decidedly self-interested person.

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« Reply #6024 on: December 13, 2020, 11:23:23 AM »
It’s strange to me that the reddest states are the ones that have biggest imbalance in their federal payments/receipts... in their favor. In other words, there is more federal spending in those states than they pay in taxes.  But this talk of secession is dangerous. Thinking that this would happen on a state by state basis is wildly optimistic. States like New York or Oregon or Maine could be torn apart by schisms between urban “blue” areas and “red” rural counties. Both sides would claim allegiance to the Constitution - you see that out of Texas already.

The path forward is to focus on our common values and what brings us together. Trump can’t do this, he only knows how to divide. I can’t wait for the outrages to stop. Or at least lose the limelight of the presidency.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6025 on: December 13, 2020, 11:26:33 AM »
I am mostly curious what will happen to his Twitter account on January 21. Honestly, the bigger concern is the combination of secret information he knows coupled with massive debt and legal liabilities inside of a decidedly self-interested person.

That's where all those donations to his leadership PAC are going. The PAC can legally pay massive salaries to himself, his kids, and rent out rooms and conference space at his hotels (to discuss PAC business, natch). It's $200M of slush money.


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Another alt-right crazy (<-- redundant, I know) theory is that the Democrats didn't want the election to be a Biden landslide because it would've been too obvious. Patriots found out, though, which sounds like an epic fail by the Demoncrats but the Supreme Court is controlled by commies and bailed them out.
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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6026 on: December 13, 2020, 02:43:27 PM »
curiously, lots of Trump supporters believe that the SCOTUS is in on the steal as well.

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“It’s clear the election has been stolen,” said Mark Paul Jones of Delaware Water Gap, Pennsylvania, who sported a tricorner Revolutionary War hat as he walked toward the Supreme Court with his wife.

Trump “is being railroaded out of office,” he said, adding that Biden won with the complicity of the Supreme Court, FBI, Department of Justice and CIA. The Supreme Court “didn’t even take the time to hear the case,” Jones said.

I've have to wonder if the US will split in half somehow.    As long as the smaller population in rural states can enable control of the senate for the Republicans the US seems to be stuck in this gridlock.

Moments like this make absolutely love conspiracy theories. Somehow the Biden campaign got Democrat and Republican governors, legislatures, supreme courts, federal courts full of Trump appointees, postal workers, poll workers, and the conservative-dominated US Supreme Court to all work together to get the win for Biden.  Of course if the DNC had so much control over the election, why would they rig up a win by a margin of just a few thousand votes in strategic states?

These ignorant folks are alleging the most complex and diabolical election fraud in a century, but next week they'll harp on how the Democrats are too incompetent to run the country.

I just keep saying, if we had really cheated, McConnell would have lost his election, too. 

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« Reply #6027 on: December 13, 2020, 05:04:48 PM »
It’s strange to me that the reddest states are the ones that have biggest imbalance in their federal payments/receipts... in their favor. In other words, there is more federal spending in those states than they pay in taxes.  But this talk of secession is dangerous. Thinking that this would happen on a state by state basis is wildly optimistic. States like New York or Oregon or Maine could be torn apart by schisms between urban “blue” areas and “red” rural counties. Both sides would claim allegiance to the Constitution - you see that out of Texas already.

The path forward is to focus on our common values and what brings us together. Trump can’t do this, he only knows how to divide. I can’t wait for the outrages to stop. Or at least lose the limelight of the presidency.

Talk of secession is dangerous and foolish as well.

The Constitution is devoid of any provision that allows for a process whereby a State may secede from the United States of America.

And though federalism treats  each State  as a sovereign entity that has broad latitude to manage its affairs  it does not not include any power to secede for the reason that  "the preservation of the States, and the maintenance of their governments, are as much within the design and care of the Constitution as the preservation of the Union and the maintenance of the National government."

Thus, secession is unconstitutional:  "The Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible States."



Texas v. White Et Al. (1869)


The Union of the States never was a purely artificial and arbitrary relation. It began among the Colonies, and grew out of common origin, mutual sympathies, kindred principles, similar interests, and geographical relations.


It was confirmed and strengthened by the necessities of war, and received definite form, and character, and sanction from the Articles of Confederation. By these the Union was solemnly declared to 'be perpetual.'


And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained 'to form a more perfect Union.'


 It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not?

But the perpetuity and indissolubility of the Union, by no means implies the loss of distinct and individual existence, or of the right of self-government by the States.

 Under the Articles of Confederation each State retained its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right not expressly delegated to the United States.

Under the Constitution, though the powers of the States were much restricted, still, all powers not delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

And we have already had occasion to remark at this term, that the people of each State compose a State, having its own government, and endowed with all the functions essential to separate and independent existence, and that 'without the States in union, there could be no such political body as the United States.'

Not only, therefore, can there be no loss of separate and independent autonomy to the States, through their union under the Constitution, but it may be not unreasonably said that the preservation of the States, and the maintenance of their governments, are as much within the design and care of the Constitution as the preservation of the Union and the maintenance of the National government.

 The Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible States.
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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6028 on: December 13, 2020, 06:56:02 PM »

There is a small subset that are convinced that The Left is literally coming to their houses and places of business to take their guns and put them or at least their kids in re-education camps and will arrest all the people who run sites like RedState.com.  As soon as Biden is inaugurated...any moment now!  (My husband just tried to get rifle ammo last week to do a deer hunt, and it was sold out all over town b/c a shooting war is going to start any minute, apparently).



There was the same run on guns and ammo when Obama was elected. Eight years of Clinton, and eight years of Obama, and gun rights have barely moved. And after 30 years of the War on Christmas and liberal educational indoctrination, Republicans still exist and are a potent political force.  It's as if, just hear me out, it's all a fear-mongering scam.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6029 on: December 14, 2020, 04:08:14 AM »
curiously, lots of Trump supporters believe that the SCOTUS is in on the steal as well.

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“It’s clear the election has been stolen,” said Mark Paul Jones of Delaware Water Gap, Pennsylvania, who sported a tricorner Revolutionary War hat as he walked toward the Supreme Court with his wife.

Trump “is being railroaded out of office,” he said, adding that Biden won with the complicity of the Supreme Court, FBI, Department of Justice and CIA. The Supreme Court “didn’t even take the time to hear the case,” Jones said.

I've have to wonder if the US will split in half somehow.    As long as the smaller population in rural states can enable control of the senate for the Republicans the US seems to be stuck in this gridlock.

Moments like this make absolutely love conspiracy theories. Somehow the Biden campaign got Democrat and Republican governors, legislatures, supreme courts, federal courts full of Trump appointees, postal workers, poll workers, and the conservative-dominated US Supreme Court to all work together to get the win for Biden.  Of course if the DNC had so much control over the election, why would they rig up a win by a margin of just a few thousand votes in strategic states?

These ignorant folks are alleging the most complex and diabolical election fraud in a century, but next week they'll harp on how the Democrats are too incompetent to run the country.

I just keep saying, if we had really cheated, McConnell would have lost his election, too.
You just don't get it, right?

That is a trick! A HUGE trick! That was intentional, so that the cheating Dems could say: "See McConnel? We don't cheat!" It's devilish!

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6030 on: December 14, 2020, 05:10:22 AM »
If Biden was smart enough to do all this and not leave any clues, he’s my guy.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6031 on: December 14, 2020, 08:11:09 AM »
If Biden was smart enough to do all this and not leave any clues, he’s my guy.

And he did it while suffering from dementia!




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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6032 on: December 14, 2020, 10:11:37 AM »
curiously, lots of Trump supporters believe that the SCOTUS is in on the steal as well.

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“It’s clear the election has been stolen,” said Mark Paul Jones of Delaware Water Gap, Pennsylvania, who sported a tricorner Revolutionary War hat as he walked toward the Supreme Court with his wife.

Trump “is being railroaded out of office,” he said, adding that Biden won with the complicity of the Supreme Court, FBI, Department of Justice and CIA. The Supreme Court “didn’t even take the time to hear the case,” Jones said.

I've have to wonder if the US will split in half somehow.    As long as the smaller population in rural states can enable control of the senate for the Republicans the US seems to be stuck in this gridlock.

Moments like this make absolutely love conspiracy theories. Somehow the Biden campaign got Democrat and Republican governors, legislatures, supreme courts, federal courts full of Trump appointees, postal workers, poll workers, and the conservative-dominated US Supreme Court to all work together to get the win for Biden.  Of course if the DNC had so much control over the election, why would they rig up a win by a margin of just a few thousand votes in strategic states?

These ignorant folks are alleging the most complex and diabolical election fraud in a century, but next week they'll harp on how the Democrats are too incompetent to run the country.

I just keep saying, if we had really cheated, McConnell would have lost his election, too.
You just don't get it, right?

That is a trick! A HUGE trick! That was intentional, so that the cheating Dems could say: "See McConnel? We don't cheat!" It's devilish!
It's amazing. If you start with the answer and work backwards it all makes sense!

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6033 on: December 14, 2020, 11:16:35 AM »

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6034 on: December 14, 2020, 11:23:09 AM »

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6035 on: December 14, 2020, 11:28:55 AM »
OMG, it never ends!

What do you think about this?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stephen-miller-alternate-elector-fox-friends_n_5fd77e00c5b62f31c1ff0b9f
Alternate electors are kind of like Alternative Facts.

At what point do those in congress cross a line at which their collective actions are conspiracy against the state. Attempting to overturn a fair election seems a pretty grievous act, and one that in a perfect world would not go unanswered. Senators have been kicked out of congress before, through that was after CIvil War hostilities had started, and when Mitch McConnell wasn't the majority leader in the Senate.
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Ten_Senators_Expelled.htm

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6036 on: December 14, 2020, 02:10:35 PM »
OMG, it never ends!

What do you think about this?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stephen-miller-alternate-elector-fox-friends_n_5fd77e00c5b62f31c1ff0b9f
Alternate electors are kind of like Alternative Facts.

At what point do those in congress cross a line at which their collective actions are conspiracy against the state.

We have already crossed that point. In the scenarios where there were "legitimate" "Alternate Electors" that led to a legitimate constitutional crisis with unclear legal results, one slate of electors was appointed by the Governor according to the previous laws and results of the vote and the other slate of electors was appointed by the Legislature "because we can". That hasn't happened anywhere, no one has appointed these guys as Electors. They're just a bunch of idiots running around cosplaying as Electors. It would be funny in a sad way if it wasn't done with the traitorous intent of overthrowing the US Government.
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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6037 on: December 14, 2020, 04:21:10 PM »
Electoral college officially called it for Biden with 302 votes today. Curious what shenanigans are next on that front.
... and Barr tendered his resignation today, effective on 12/23 "to spend time with his family." I'm sure this had nothing to do with his not having a press conference on Nov 1 about Hunter Biden.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6038 on: December 14, 2020, 04:23:27 PM »
Electoral college officially called it for Biden with 302 votes today. Curious what shenanigans are next on that front.
... and Barr tendered his resignation today, effective on 12/23 "to spend time with his family." I'm sure this had nothing to do with his not having a press conference on Nov 1 about Hunter Biden.
Every morning I eagerly look up Heather Cox Richardson’s daily letter to update me on the shenanigans and put it all into historical context.

Poor lady deserves a break one day soon. She has been burning a lot of midnight oil keeping up with this administration’s nonsense. 

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6039 on: December 14, 2020, 04:32:31 PM »
Electoral college officially called it for Biden with 302 votes today. Curious what shenanigans are next on that front.
... and Barr tendered his resignation today, effective on 12/23 "to spend time with his family." I'm sure this had nothing to do with his not having a press conference on Nov 1 about Hunter Biden.

I wonder what changed his mind? He spent the last year being Trump's hype-man and attack dog, but then right before the election decides to start acting like a real law enforcement leader?

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6040 on: December 14, 2020, 06:46:19 PM »
Electoral college officially called it for Biden with 302 votes today. Curious what shenanigans are next on that front.
... and Barr tendered his resignation today, effective on 12/23 "to spend time with his family." I'm sure this had nothing to do with his not having a press conference on Nov 1 about Hunter Biden.

I wonder what changed his mind? He spent the last year being Trump's hype-man and attack dog, but then right before the election decides to start acting like a real law enforcement leader?

I'd like to think at some point most people have lines they won't cross - i.e. everyone's fear about the SC that Trump picked ruling for him in a "contested election" not coming remotely to pass.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6041 on: December 15, 2020, 06:31:34 AM »
Barr sees the writing on the wall. This is his way to cover his butt as the mad king rages on.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6042 on: December 15, 2020, 08:38:44 AM »
Unclear if Barr quit or was forced to resign.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6043 on: December 15, 2020, 09:10:05 AM »
Unclear if Barr quit or was forced to resign.

I suspect he was given the option to resign if he wrote an appropriately obsequious letter.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6044 on: December 15, 2020, 11:29:04 AM »
Was there going to be so much meaningful work for those last four weeks anyway that staying on for it would be interesting to Barr?

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6045 on: December 15, 2020, 11:43:23 AM »
Was there going to be so much meaningful work for those last four weeks anyway that staying on for it would be interesting to Barr?

What an odd way to frame the situation. Do AGs normally resign a month before the end of their term? No they don't, they normally stay to the end. So why are you trying to frame it as normal for him to quit a month away from the end?

I agree with Omy, he sees clearly that a) the election is over and b) that Trump is only going to escalate, and he wants to get out before any outright treason occurs.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6046 on: December 15, 2020, 11:51:57 AM »
Was there going to be so much meaningful work for those last four weeks anyway that staying on for it would be interesting to Barr?

What an odd way to frame the situation. Do AGs normally resign a month before the end of their term? No they don't, they normally stay to the end. So why are you trying to frame it as normal for him to quit a month away from the end?

I agree with Omy, he sees clearly that a) the election is over and b) that Trump is only going to escalate, and he wants to get out before any outright treason occurs.

He isn't willing to do Trump's bidding on *everything*, but he is willing to step aside and give him free reign...

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6047 on: December 15, 2020, 01:34:04 PM »
Indeed reading these posts, I can only conclude it's not Barr's mind that changed, but that of the outgoing President.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6048 on: December 15, 2020, 01:35:31 PM »
Indeed reading these posts, I can only conclude it's not Barr's mind that changed, but that of the outgoing President.
Maybe he's warming up for a return to saying, "You're Fired!" for income.

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Re: Trump outrage of the day
« Reply #6049 on: December 15, 2020, 02:32:50 PM »
Was there going to be so much meaningful work for those last four weeks anyway that staying on for it would be interesting to Barr?

What an odd way to frame the situation. Do AGs normally resign a month before the end of their term? No they don't, they normally stay to the end. So why are you trying to frame it as normal for him to quit a month away from the end?

I agree with Omy, he sees clearly that a) the election is over and b) that Trump is only going to escalate, and he wants to get out before any outright treason occurs.

It’s not at all unusual for executive branch appointees to resign during lame duck sessions, particularly when they have no intention to no chance of staying on in the new administration.  In many ways its the preferred situation, where the acting head is free to ‘clear the decks’ for the incoming appointee.

Barr had a snowball’ss chance of remaining in the new administration, and Trump had little use for him after the election.  I’m sure Barr wanted out just as much as Trump and Biden wanted him gone - though it is notable that Trump has managed to say glowing things about him (“...and outstanding job!”) days after being hyper-critical of his performance as AG.