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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2200 on: June 11, 2025, 12:32:43 PM »
Trump at Fort Bragg today whipping the crowd into a frenzy about "liberating" Los Angeles and getting the troops to cheer about anti-DEI, getting rid of trans people, belittling CA elected officials, the press, and bringing back all of the Confederate base names. Saw a text message that went out to soldiers on base explicitly saying they were looking for fit-looking soldiers who would agree with everything the President said to stand behind him on the stage.

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DoD completely unapologetic about yesterday's display. Some MAGA merch vendor was allowed on post to sell all kinds of crap including "White Privilege" cards. GOP politicians who lost their minds about Biden giving a speech next to a couple Marines have been silent about this.


https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/06/11/bragg-soldiers-who-cheered-trumps-political-attacks-while-uniform-were-checked-allegiance-appearance.html

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2201 on: June 11, 2025, 05:50:54 PM »
In a move that should shock nobody, RFK completely purged HHS's vaccine board and is replacing it with anti-vaxxers.

https://bsky.app/profile/sherylnyt.bsky.social/post/3lrebzjjca22y

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2202 on: June 13, 2025, 07:38:08 AM »
So . . . uhhh . . . now Kristie Noem is telling her bodyguards to tackle senators and drag them off in handcuffs for asking her questions.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/12/california-sen-alex-padilla-handcuffed-at-noem-presser-00403253

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2203 on: June 13, 2025, 08:23:31 AM »
What if a big chunk of the parade route is very respectful for the whole parade.... until Trump comes by at which point they all turn  and pull down their pants? :)

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2204 on: June 13, 2025, 10:48:00 PM »
realizing now, much of politics, past and present, is some bad attempt at entertainment, much clowning. A whole lot of people just tune out.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2205 on: June 14, 2025, 08:55:45 AM »
Two Minnesota members of the legislature shot in their homes by someone dressed as a cop. One member and her husband dead. The other critical.

https://x.com/bnonews/status/1933899364038070428?s=46

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/sources-say-two-minnesota-lawmakers-have-been-shot/

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« Reply #2206 on: June 14, 2025, 08:57:07 AM »
Two Minnesota members of the legislature shot in their homes by someone dressed as a cop. One member and her husband dead. The other critical.

https://x.com/bnonews/status/1933899364038070428?s=46

I will not go look into the right wing fever swamps right now, because you know there is some gloating and I just can't.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2207 on: June 15, 2025, 03:18:38 AM »
In a move that should shock nobody, RFK completely purged HHS's vaccine board and is replacing it with anti-vaxxers.

https://bsky.app/profile/sherylnyt.bsky.social/post/3lrebzjjca22y

Since anti-vaxxers don't trust modern medicine they should do us a favour and refuse it all, rather than selectively.

I suggested during the pandemic that people who didn't want the covid vaccine should be paid a sum of money in lieu of the average cost of covid vaccines/hospital treatment, with the only thing lost being the right to receive treatment for covid in hospital if they got infected. Win/win on everyone's part.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2208 on: June 15, 2025, 08:56:11 AM »
Quick analysis on Trump's low-energy Army parade. It was a mess from start to finish.

https://x.com/dougblandry/status/1934052056878243848?s=46&t=cGpmX8SzbXAn8DOyd9u6SA

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2209 on: June 15, 2025, 10:50:36 AM »
Quick analysis on Trump's low-energy Army parade. It was a mess from start to finish.

https://x.com/dougblandry/status/1934052056878243848?s=46&t=cGpmX8SzbXAn8DOyd9u6SA
US Army, brought to you by the folks at Coinbase. It is evident the US Army is not all about precision marching or putting on a show for a king or dictator. Each branch of the military has small, specialized groups for precision drills and such. "What kind of training?" AAAAARRRRRMMY training Sir. Razzle Dazzle."

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2210 on: June 15, 2025, 11:24:26 AM »
Quick analysis on Trump's low-energy Army parade. It was a mess from start to finish.

https://x.com/dougblandry/status/1934052056878243848?s=46&t=cGpmX8SzbXAn8DOyd9u6SA
US Army, brought to you by the folks at Coinbase. It is evident the US Army is not all about precision marching or putting on a show for a king or dictator. Each branch of the military has small, specialized groups for precision drills and such. "What kind of training?" AAAAARRRRRMMY training Sir. Razzle Dazzle."

Prior to the parade, the Mall was covered in Army vehicles, weapons, fitness events, ceremonies, and things the Army is actually good at when it comes to this kind of presentation. And nobody paid attention to it because we were all told to focus on the mother of all parades.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2211 on: June 15, 2025, 11:41:53 AM »
It's ironic that the UK also had a military parade yesterday, Trooping the Colour.  It traditionally honors the king's birthday, although King Charles' real birthday is in November.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7872g979vno

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2212 on: June 15, 2025, 01:32:12 PM »
Quick analysis on Trump's low-energy Army parade. It was a mess from start to finish.

https://x.com/dougblandry/status/1934052056878243848?s=46&t=cGpmX8SzbXAn8DOyd9u6SA
US Army, brought to you by the folks at Coinbase. It is evident the US Army is not all about precision marching or putting on a show for a king or dictator. Each branch of the military has small, specialized groups for precision drills and such. "What kind of training?" AAAAARRRRRMMY training Sir. Razzle Dazzle."

Was Coinbase actually a sponsor?

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2213 on: June 15, 2025, 02:09:45 PM »
Quick analysis on Trump's low-energy Army parade. It was a mess from start to finish.

https://x.com/dougblandry/status/1934052056878243848?s=46&t=cGpmX8SzbXAn8DOyd9u6SA
US Army, brought to you by the folks at Coinbase. It is evident the US Army is not all about precision marching or putting on a show for a king or dictator. Each branch of the military has small, specialized groups for precision drills and such. "What kind of training?" AAAAARRRRRMMY training Sir. Razzle Dazzle."

Was Coinbase actually a sponsor?

Announced on the jumbotron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/1lbm4ft/remember_when_butters_loathed_jackbooted_statists/

UFC was also an official sponsor, with Dana White watching the parade from the reviewing stand sitting next to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2214 on: June 15, 2025, 04:58:33 PM »
Quick analysis on Trump's low-energy Army parade. It was a mess from start to finish.

https://x.com/dougblandry/status/1934052056878243848?s=46&t=cGpmX8SzbXAn8DOyd9u6SA
US Army, brought to you by the folks at Coinbase. It is evident the US Army is not all about precision marching or putting on a show for a king or dictator. Each branch of the military has small, specialized groups for precision drills and such. "What kind of training?" AAAAARRRRRMMY training Sir. Razzle Dazzle."

Was Coinbase actually a sponsor?

Announced on the jumbotron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/1lbm4ft/remember_when_butters_loathed_jackbooted_statists/

UFC was also an official sponsor, with Dana White watching the parade from the reviewing stand sitting next to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

We really have achieved Idiocracy

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2215 on: June 15, 2025, 07:17:42 PM »
Quick analysis on Trump's low-energy Army parade. It was a mess from start to finish.

https://x.com/dougblandry/status/1934052056878243848?s=46&t=cGpmX8SzbXAn8DOyd9u6SA
US Army, brought to you by the folks at Coinbase. It is evident the US Army is not all about precision marching or putting on a show for a king or dictator. Each branch of the military has small, specialized groups for precision drills and such. "What kind of training?" AAAAARRRRRMMY training Sir. Razzle Dazzle."

Was Coinbase actually a sponsor?

Announced on the jumbotron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/1lbm4ft/remember_when_butters_loathed_jackbooted_statists/

UFC was also an official sponsor, with Dana White watching the parade from the reviewing stand sitting next to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

We really have achieved Idiocracy

I know it's UFC not WWE, but

Maybe Harris will tag in with a folding chair knocking everyone out and we'll all realize that the last few months have just been an elaborate villain arc....
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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2216 on: June 15, 2025, 08:02:19 PM »
Quick analysis on Trump's low-energy Army parade. It was a mess from start to finish.

https://x.com/dougblandry/status/1934052056878243848?s=46&t=cGpmX8SzbXAn8DOyd9u6SA
US Army, brought to you by the folks at Coinbase. It is evident the US Army is not all about precision marching or putting on a show for a king or dictator. Each branch of the military has small, specialized groups for precision drills and such. "What kind of training?" AAAAARRRRRMMY training Sir. Razzle Dazzle."

Was Coinbase actually a sponsor?

Announced on the jumbotron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/1lbm4ft/remember_when_butters_loathed_jackbooted_statists/

UFC was also an official sponsor, with Dana White watching the parade from the reviewing stand sitting next to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

We really have achieved Idiocracy

I know it's UFC not WWE, but

Maybe Harris will tag in with a folding chair knocking everyone out and we'll all realize that the last few months have just been an elaborate villain arc....

I like it.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2217 on: June 16, 2025, 07:26:25 AM »
Variety reports on the irony of repeatedly playing Fortunate Son during the parade.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2218 on: June 16, 2025, 08:02:55 AM »
Variety reports on the irony of repeatedly playing Fortunate Son during the parade.

. . . but Trump is the Fortunate Son that Fogarty is railing against in the lyrics!  Might as well play 'Born in the USA' too to glorify the country.

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« Reply #2219 on: June 16, 2025, 12:45:31 PM »
Variety reports on the irony of repeatedly playing Fortunate Son during the parade.
. . . but Trump is the Fortunate Son that Fogarty is railing against in the lyrics!  Might as well play 'Born in the USA' too to glorify the country.
Conservatives revel in giving themselves permission to be contradictory. It's a feature not a bug. Imagine the feeling of liberation and the new opportunities that would open up if you weren't striving for consistency all the time, in terms of morality, epistemology, or the pragmatic block-and-tackling of your career, relationships, or the "brand" of yourself presented to other people! What if you were completely relativistic?

For example: "God is love" but also "God wants us to oppress the gays". By thinking both at the same time, one achieves a sense of affiliation with moral virtue but also the moral permission to be hateful, which might be advantageous in some selfish way. A person who was consistent would only be able to believe one of these statements about their god, and therefore either fail to feel good about themselves or fail to take advantage of the benefits of bullying.

Another example: "The government debt is an emergency" but also "we should give ourselves tax cuts". By thinking both at the same time, one presents oneself as the sober voice of reasoned leadership while simultaneously giving oneself a handout from the public coffers. A person who was consistent might only obtain one of these benefits, and would therefore do worse as a politician.

A third example: "It's OK if I cheat on my spouse" and "the 10 Commandments are the moral law of the universe". The first idea gets you what you desire, the second idea ingratiates you within the sort of circles in which you can get what you desire.

Cognitive dissonance is thought to be an adverse state, a form of mental pain. Conservatism is a series of exercises in which cognitive dissonance is reduced, particularly groupthink, various fallacies, and the prioritization of tribalistic group structures over the resolution of inconsistencies. It appeals to the sort of people who were already least sensitive to cognitive dissonance.

Liberalism, OTOH, is the effort to live a contradiction-free life, in line with the objective pursued in the past 2,400 years of non-theistic Western philosophy. It appeals to the sort of people who were already most sensitive to cognitive dissonance. Liberals tend to incorrectly think everyone has the same goal as themselves - to live a contradiction-free life - and that others can be persuaded by pointing out contradictions and raising cognitive dissonance.

Trump "owns the libs" by being as self-contradictory as possible. Liberals' outrage over Trump's contradictions leaves them with nothing to say to the various left-behind demographics, and no coherent message about a plan to make America's least educated people's lives better. Eventually the liberals succumb to the temptation to call their less-educated fellow citizens stupid, and it's tribal warfare from there.

Trump uses liberals' own power of logical thinking against them, like a judo throw, casting them into a position of railing about worries that aren't about putting food on the table or a roof overhead. This reinforces negative stereotypes about liberals, such as aloofness, thinking emotionally, being too academic, or being too lost in the weeds of theory or TDS to be effective. In the worldview of Trumpers, liberals offer welfare checks while Trump offers the opportunity to finally upend the caste system.

Meanwhile, liberals are judo-thrown into contradiction - tricked into defending the infrastructure of America's emerging caste system. These include the notoriously nepotistic Ivy League universities, the mostly college educated people with recession-proof and hard-to-get government jobs, a judiciary system whose outcomes depend on the amount of money spent, and of course the undocumented immigrants (the untouchables caste) who build big unaffordable houses and serve burrito plates on the cheap to the educated upper castes. Trump set this agenda, and liberals have enthusiastically jumped at the opportunity to defend the status quo caste system in a country full of miserable and resentful consumerists.

Thus the people who say they stand for equality stand for inequality, and just enough voters with cognitive dissonance walk away. If you're still worried about logical contradictions, let this be your takeway: You've been tossed across the mat.

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« Reply #2220 on: June 16, 2025, 02:39:14 PM »
So Trump messed up the G7 press conference.  We will need a G6 once he goes home.

If he were in pre-K his report card would say "does not play well with others"

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« Reply #2221 on: June 17, 2025, 12:14:24 PM »

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« Reply #2222 on: June 17, 2025, 12:25:26 PM »
What is with trump's incoherent texts?

Seriously his mental health seems to be getting worse by the day.   With it his aggressiveness seems to be increasing. Not a safe combination.

I know he is seen as supreme by his followers, but he is getting closer and closer to starting a major war.  Isn't there anything in the constitution to remove a president in failing health?


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« Reply #2223 on: June 17, 2025, 12:28:19 PM »

Did masked ICE agents really just arrest Brad Lander, a candidate for Mayor in NYC?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/new-york-city-comptroller-brad-lander-detained-ice-mayoral-campaign-sa-rcna213540

Guys in masks with no rules, doing whatever the fuck they want.

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« Reply #2224 on: June 17, 2025, 12:47:16 PM »
What is with trump's incoherent texts?

Seriously his mental health seems to be getting worse by the day.   With it his aggressiveness seems to be increasing. Not a safe combination.

I know he is seen as supreme by his followers, but he is getting closer and closer to starting a major war.  Isn't there anything in the constitution to remove a president in failing health?

In theory, there's the 25th amendment.  But you'd have to get the VP and majority of the cabinet to do it, and I think the VP would then become president.  I don't think there's much of a chance of that happening.

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« Reply #2225 on: June 17, 2025, 02:10:49 PM »
What is with trump's incoherent texts?

Seriously his mental health seems to be getting worse by the day.   With it his aggressiveness seems to be increasing. Not a safe combination.

I know he is seen as supreme by his followers, but he is getting closer and closer to starting a major war.  Isn't there anything in the constitution to remove a president in failing health?

In theory, there's the 25th amendment.  But you'd have to get the VP and majority of the cabinet to do it, and I think the VP would then become president.  I don't think there's much of a chance of that happening.

There's also impeachment in the house, with a conviction in the senate.  It's right there in the constitution.  But until things get much worse, that won't happen either. 






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« Reply #2226 on: June 17, 2025, 03:38:05 PM »
What is with trump's incoherent texts?

Seriously his mental health seems to be getting worse by the day.   With it his aggressiveness seems to be increasing. Not a safe combination.

I know he is seen as supreme by his followers, but he is getting closer and closer to starting a major war.  Isn't there anything in the constitution to remove a president in failing health?

In theory, there's the 25th amendment.  But you'd have to get the VP and majority of the cabinet to do it, and I think the VP would then become president.  I don't think there's much of a chance of that happening.

There's also impeachment in the house, with a conviction in the senate.  It's right there in the constitution.  But until things get much worse, that won't happen either.

What is "much worse"?  Nuclear war? Heavy duty war in the Middle East?  War in Ukraine spreading to neighbouring countries?  Collapse of the food system in the US?

From outside it already looks "bad enough".

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« Reply #2227 on: June 17, 2025, 08:42:29 PM »
What is with trump's incoherent texts?

Seriously his mental health seems to be getting worse by the day.   With it his aggressiveness seems to be increasing. Not a safe combination.

I know he is seen as supreme by his followers, but he is getting closer and closer to starting a major war.  Isn't there anything in the constitution to remove a president in failing health?

In theory, there's the 25th amendment.  But you'd have to get the VP and majority of the cabinet to do it, and I think the VP would then become president.  I don't think there's much of a chance of that happening.

There's also impeachment in the house, with a conviction in the senate.  It's right there in the constitution.  But until things get much worse, that won't happen either.

What is "much worse"?  Nuclear war? Heavy duty war in the Middle East?  War in Ukraine spreading to neighbouring countries?  Collapse of the food system in the US?

From outside it already looks "bad enough".

What, are we going to start following the constitution now?

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« Reply #2228 on: June 17, 2025, 09:13:36 PM »
What is with trump's incoherent texts?

Seriously his mental health seems to be getting worse by the day.   With it his aggressiveness seems to be increasing. Not a safe combination.

I know he is seen as supreme by his followers, but he is getting closer and closer to starting a major war.  Isn't there anything in the constitution to remove a president in failing health?

In theory, there's the 25th amendment.  But you'd have to get the VP and majority of the cabinet to do it, and I think the VP would then become president.  I don't think there's much of a chance of that happening.

There's also impeachment in the house, with a conviction in the senate.  It's right there in the constitution.  But until things get much worse, that won't happen either.

What is "much worse"?  Nuclear war? Heavy duty war in the Middle East?  War in Ukraine spreading to neighbouring countries?  Collapse of the food system in the US?

From outside it already looks "bad enough".


I agree with you.  It's bad enough now.  And your question might be rhetorical, but it's a good one.

2/3 of the senate and more than 1/2 of the house is required to impeach.  For now these bodies are divided roughly in half, with MAGA having a few percentage points advantage.  The long pole is the senate, so with some in-my-head math, 20% of the MAGA senators need to vote to impeach to get to 66.  Until the bad things significantly affect the MAGA constituents enough to actively call upon 20% of their senators to impeach, nothing will happen.

Your real question is probably what has to happen to these MAGA voters?  I can only offer guesses.  One might be that the US goes into an optional war and taxes go up to pay for it.  Or the US deploys and loses battles.  Another might be that inflation kicks up enough that they are affected.  Massive job losses might be another one.  Maybe another deep monetary crisis like the 2008 housing crisis.  Any of these would have to be prolonged. These are all horrible things, both for the US and the world, and I don't wish for them.

I'm getting cynical in my old age, but war spreading in Europe probably wouldn't do it.  Nor war spreading in the Middle East.  Nor a limited use of nukes.  It's hard to affect isolationists and hyper-nationalists.

Other than that, we do what we can to slowly change minds, organize, and vote in the midterm elections.  One year and 5 months. 



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« Reply #2229 on: June 25, 2025, 06:12:47 AM »
I think this is my new favorite YouTube channel.  It makes political reporting so much more watchable.

https://youtu.be/SYJ8FUXJUyI?si=pjjdqHdqy_YCyNU8

And no, they don't just make fun of Trump.  They seem to think all politicians are deserving of this treatment.

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« Reply #2230 on: June 25, 2025, 09:50:34 AM »
What is with trump's incoherent texts?

Seriously his mental health seems to be getting worse by the day.   With it his aggressiveness seems to be increasing. Not a safe combination.

I know he is seen as supreme by his followers, but he is getting closer and closer to starting a major war.  Isn't there anything in the constitution to remove a president in failing health?

In theory, there's the 25th amendment.  But you'd have to get the VP and majority of the cabinet to do it, and I think the VP would then become president.  I don't think there's much of a chance of that happening.

There's also impeachment in the house, with a conviction in the senate.  It's right there in the constitution.  But until things get much worse, that won't happen either.

What is "much worse"?  Nuclear war? Heavy duty war in the Middle East?  War in Ukraine spreading to neighbouring countries?  Collapse of the food system in the US?

From outside it already looks "bad enough".


I agree with you.  It's bad enough now.  And your question might be rhetorical, but it's a good one.

2/3 of the senate and more than 1/2 of the house is required to impeach.  For now these bodies are divided roughly in half, with MAGA having a few percentage points advantage.  The long pole is the senate, so with some in-my-head math, 20% of the MAGA senators need to vote to impeach to get to 66.  Until the bad things significantly affect the MAGA constituents enough to actively call upon 20% of their senators to impeach, nothing will happen.

Your real question is probably what has to happen to these MAGA voters?  I can only offer guesses.  One might be that the US goes into an optional war and taxes go up to pay for it.  Or the US deploys and loses battles.  Another might be that inflation kicks up enough that they are affected.  Massive job losses might be another one.  Maybe another deep monetary crisis like the 2008 housing crisis.  Any of these would have to be prolonged. These are all horrible things, both for the US and the world, and I don't wish for them.

I'm getting cynical in my old age, but war spreading in Europe probably wouldn't do it.  Nor war spreading in the Middle East.  Nor a limited use of nukes.  It's hard to affect isolationists and hyper-nationalists.

Other than that, we do what we can to slowly change minds, organize, and vote in the midterm elections.  One year and 5 months.

Trump deploying and losing some major battle would turn the Magas against him.  Losing a carrier or two would do it.  Maybe.  Trump would, of course, do his best to suppress and lie about it, so who knows.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2231 on: June 25, 2025, 02:06:50 PM »
Besides the actual important injustices being inflicted, Trump is also turning the White House into Mara Lago 2.0, including bulldozing and paving over the famed Rose Garden. Who needs roses when you can have pavement? Besides, pavement is better for selling Teslas and holding fundraisers for your crypto ventures.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-show-gravel-laid-over-202842010.html

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2232 on: June 26, 2025, 07:36:12 AM »
Besides the actual important injustices being inflicted, Trump is also turning the White House into Mara Lago 2.0, including bulldozing and paving over the famed Rose Garden. Who needs roses when you can have pavement? Besides, pavement is better for selling Teslas and holding fundraisers for your crypto ventures.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-show-gravel-laid-over-202842010.html
I guess Elon cut off the rose gardener as wasteful government expenses.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2233 on: June 26, 2025, 08:02:24 AM »
Besides the actual important injustices being inflicted, Trump is also turning the White House into Mara Lago 2.0, including bulldozing and paving over the famed Rose Garden. Who needs roses when you can have pavement? Besides, pavement is better for selling Teslas and holding fundraisers for your crypto ventures.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-show-gravel-laid-over-202842010.html
I guess Elon cut off the rose gardener as wasteful government expenses.

Uhhh . . . this is merely an expression of his respect for the struggles of women.

"Trump had previously vowed to pave over the Rose Garden, bemoaning the dampness of the grass and saying the soft ground made it difficult for women to walk in high heels."

Geeze people, why won't you acknowledge his deep caring for those of the opposite sex?

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2234 on: June 26, 2025, 06:42:03 PM »

The Trump administration sues all, like every one, the federal judges in Maryland???

The Department of Justice has filed an unprecedented lawsuit against all of Maryland's active federal judges.

Just when I thought they had explored every avenue of stupidity. 

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2235 on: June 26, 2025, 07:31:22 PM »

The Trump administration sues all, like every one, the federal judges in Maryland???

The Department of Justice has filed an unprecedented lawsuit against all of Maryland's active federal judges.

Just when I thought they had explored every avenue of stupidity.

His entire business and political tenure should be subtitled The Attorney Employment Act. 
Is there any attorney or firm or entity which hasn't sued him, or been sued by him, or threatened to sue him, or he's threatened to sue, or he's actually sued? 

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2236 on: Today at 01:04:51 AM »

The Trump administration sues all, like every one, the federal judges in Maryland???

The Department of Justice has filed an unprecedented lawsuit against all of Maryland's active federal judges.

Just when I thought they had explored every avenue of stupidity.

I guess they didn't intentionally did it ironically under "egregious overreach"?

It would be so laughable if it weren't that scary.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2237 on: Today at 09:20:52 AM »
All the republican appointees on the Supreme Court have voted to allow Trump's illegal and unconstitutional decrees to be enacted and to block any court order preventing them nationwide until court cases are fully settled (how ever many months or years that takes) in a new decision that massively increases the power the president has.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/scotus-opinion-trump-casa-1.7572403

The immediate result of this case will be to allow the denial of birthright citizenship to the roughly 150,000 American born babies each year.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2238 on: Today at 09:55:26 AM »
Executive orders will be treated as laws in different parts of the country what could go wrong???

When there’s no common reality of law across the country the law ends. The US will collapse and Balkanize within the next 10 years.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2239 on: Today at 10:37:27 AM »
All the republican appointees on the Supreme Court have voted to allow Trump's illegal and unconstitutional decrees to be enacted and to block any court order preventing them nationwide until court cases are fully settled (how ever many months or years that takes) in a new decision that massively increases the power the president has.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/scotus-opinion-trump-casa-1.7572403

The immediate result of this case will be to allow the denial of birthright citizenship to the roughly 150,000 American born babies each year.

With all the hundreds of ludacris things that have happened in the past 6 months, this one feels like a massive shift. We'll see.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2240 on: Today at 01:24:07 PM »
All the republican appointees on the Supreme Court have voted to allow Trump's illegal and unconstitutional decrees to be enacted and to block any court order preventing them nationwide until court cases are fully settled (how ever many months or years that takes) in a new decision that massively increases the power the president has.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/scotus-opinion-trump-casa-1.7572403

The immediate result of this case will be to allow the denial of birthright citizenship to the roughly 150,000 American born babies each year.

Quote from: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/scotus-opinion-trump-casa-1.7572403
The U.S. Supreme Court dealt a blow on Friday to the power of federal judges by restricting their ability to grant broad legal relief in cases, as the justices acted in a legal fight over President Donald Trump's bid to limit birthright citizenship, ordering lower courts that blocked the policy to reconsider the scope of their orders.

The justices, in a 6-3 ruling, where all the justices appointed by Republican presidents voted in favour, granted a request by the Trump administration to narrow the scope of three nationwide injunctions issued by federal judges in Maryland, Massachusetts and Washington state that halted enforcement of his directive while litigation challenging the policy plays out.

The court ordered lower courts to reconsider the scope of their injunctions and specified that Trump's order cannot take effect until 30 days after Friday's ruling.

Narrow the scope, reconsider the scope.  What if the lower courts reconsider the scope and decide that it should indeed be nationwide? 

Also, if it will be indeed limited, does that mean that the northeast and the west coast will still have birthright citizenship?

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #2241 on: Today at 01:51:17 PM »

Also, if it will be indeed limited, does that mean that the northeast and the west coast will still have birthright citizenship?


Different court districts having different interpretations of what is and is not Constitutional until SCOTUS makes a decision is a situation we are now facing.

Trump already interpreting this decision as "I can do whatever I want with my EOs until SCOTUS says different."
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