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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #700 on: February 06, 2025, 08:08:40 AM »
Elected a demented president, get demented statements.

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« Reply #701 on: February 06, 2025, 10:19:32 AM »
Elected a demented president, get demented statements.

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1887543148781461806?t=wHgUqdQpeGRkIAhXS_vbuQ&s=19

Here's a handful in a single message. The war will end, the Palestinians will magically disappear without use of force, Gaza will look like a resort, and the Palestinians (a word he also used a pejorative in the same sentence) will be safe and happy. 

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« Reply #702 on: February 06, 2025, 02:03:29 PM »
Elected a demented president, get demented statements.

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1887543148781461806?t=wHgUqdQpeGRkIAhXS_vbuQ&s=19

Here's a handful in a single message. The war will end, the Palestinians will magically disappear without use of force, Gaza will look like a resort, and the Palestinians (a word he also used a pejorative in the same sentence) will be safe and happy.

The White House must be a madhouse at this point.

DJT likely has frontotemporal dementia (combined with malignant narcissism an extremely combustible condition) and is letting a drug addled sociopath set fire to the administrative state without DJT having a clue what to do about it.
DJT´s aggressive behavior is increasingly out of control - this is when patients are at risk to be shown the door of their care facilities.

It won't take much longer for Musk's activities to become so unpopular that it will impact DJT's popularity; and with it the realization by many that Musk´s unfettered assault on critical government services is actually exposing DJT's weakness.
Let's just hope that it is just DJT who is going to explode and not the rest of us as well.

There are millions that are or will be directly or indirectly impacted by the destruction wreaked by this government and the layoffs have already begun.

The funny thing is that preventing the administrative state from performing its functions is actually what´s usually the goal of a general strike - which is what brings governments down.

So we have the interesting situation that the government is taking actions that will result in widespread anger - it's like watching a government engineering a general strike against itself. That's definitely a historically unique situation that´s developing here.

Breakdown of law and order and government function from the top down, that´s what we are looking at.

Fascinating really, and if there weren't so many that are about to get hurt by this madness, it would be entertaining, to be honest.


Behavioural-variant frontotemporal dementia: an update
Olivier Piguet, John R Hodges

Abstract
Behavioural-variant frontotemporal dementia (bvFTD) is characterised by insidious changes in personality and interpersonal conduct that reflect progressive disintegration of the neural circuits involved in social cognition, emotion regulation, motivation and decision making. The underlying pathology is heterogeneous and classified according to the presence of intraneuronal inclusions of tau, TDP-43 or occasionally FUS. Biomarkers to detect these histopathological changes in life are increasingly important with the development of disease-modifying drugs. Gene mutations have been found which collectively account for around 10-20% of cases including a novel hexanucleotide repeat on chromosome 9 (C9orf72). The recently reviewed International Consensus Criteria for bvFTD propose three levels of diagnostic certainly: possible, probable and definite. Detailed history taking from family members to elicit behavioural features underpins the diagnostic process with support from neuropsychological testing designed to detect impairment in decision-making, emotion processing and social cognition. Brain imaging is important for increasing the level of diagnosis certainty. Carer education and support remain of paramount importance.


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« Reply #703 on: February 07, 2025, 06:57:11 AM »
I apologize I did not read through all this thread. But just wanted to let people know that past and new employees, even non political appointee positions in the government are being asked questions that include political loyalty litmus tests. The USAID workers were asked to fill out a questionnaire before they were fired, that included the question "who won the 2020 election?"
Asking people who they voted in the 2024 election (which is PRIVATE information. No one needs to tell ANYONE who they voted for), social media history, what party they were registered under, and political donations are being used to fire or not hire employees.

Again, I want to remind people that as a federal employee, our oath is not to the president, it is to uphold the country and the constitution. As far as I know this is something that has never been asked of non-political federal employees. I do not know about political appointees. Trump is also intending to expand what federal employees are considered political appointees, such that 10-15% of all federal employees are no longer civil servants, but hired and fired by the president. This is something he tried to do at the end of his last term, and is also a main part of Project 2025.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-civil-service-loyalty-transition-b2678674.html

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« Reply #704 on: February 07, 2025, 06:58:04 AM »
I apologize I did not read through all this thread. But just wanted to let people know that past and new employees, even non political appointee positions in the government are being asked questions that include political loyalty litmus tests. The USAID workers were asked to fill out a questionnaire before they were fired, that included the question "who won the 2020 election?"
Asking people who they voted in the 2024 election (which is PRIVATE information. No one needs to tell ANYONE who they voted for), social media history, what party they were registered under, and political donations are being used to fire or not hire employees.

Again, I want to remind people that as a federal employee, our oath is not to the president, it is to uphold the country and the constitution. As far as I know this is something that has never been asked of non-political federal employees. I do not know about political appointees. Trump is also intending to expand what federal employees are considered political appointees, such that 10-15% of all federal employees are no longer civil servants, but hired and fired by the president.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-civil-service-loyalty-transition-b2678674.html

Fascism.

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« Reply #705 on: February 07, 2025, 07:27:52 AM »
I apologize I did not read through all this thread. But just wanted to let people know that past and new employees, even non political appointee positions in the government are being asked questions that include political loyalty litmus tests. The USAID workers were asked to fill out a questionnaire before they were fired, that included the question "who won the 2020 election?"
Asking people who they voted in the 2024 election (which is PRIVATE information. No one needs to tell ANYONE who they voted for), social media history, what party they were registered under, and political donations are being used to fire or not hire employees.

Again, I want to remind people that as a federal employee, our oath is not to the president, it is to uphold the country and the constitution. As far as I know this is something that has never been asked of non-political federal employees. I do not know about political appointees. Trump is also intending to expand what federal employees are considered political appointees, such that 10-15% of all federal employees are no longer civil servants, but hired and fired by the president.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-civil-service-loyalty-transition-b2678674.html

Fascism.

Who in their right mind would answer anything other than 'Trump' for 'Who won the 2020 election'???  It's obviously what a crazy administration wants to hear, and a reasonable administration wouldn't be asking the question.

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« Reply #706 on: February 07, 2025, 07:30:59 AM »
As far as I know this is something that has never been asked of non-political federal employees.

This is not new, it is quite old.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoils_system

While disconcerting to see it come back, the republic has come to its senses before.

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« Reply #707 on: February 07, 2025, 07:39:32 AM »
Fascism.

Who in their right mind would answer anything other than 'Trump' for 'Who won the 2020 election'???  It's obviously what a crazy administration wants to hear, and a reasonable administration wouldn't be asking the question.
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The correct answer is of course "The rightful winner".

It's absolutely bonkers that all those "government should not interfere" etc. aren't storming the White House with all their government-protection guns while dictator-in-making takes over.

Logically speaking.

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« Reply #708 on: February 07, 2025, 09:19:04 AM »
New executive order dropped restoring our fighting force. One of the things it states is now pointing out the founding fathers were racist or sexist (c'mon they were! They owned slaves) is now "unamerican". They are rewriting history before our eyes folks. If you have paper history textbooks, be advised to hold onto them before the libraries are emptied. More concerning it seems he is trying to remake the military into a white supremacist stronghold. https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-restores-merit-and-lethality-to-americas-armed-forces/
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFaF1qJxfDm/?igsh=MTFmbTN2N3FoN2FnMA==
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« Reply #709 on: February 07, 2025, 09:29:11 AM »
New executive order dropped restoring our fighting force. One of the things it states is now pointing out the founding fathers were racist or sexist (c'mon they were! They owned slaves) is now "unamerican". They are rewriting history before our eyes folks. If you have paper history textbooks, be advised to hold onto them before the libraries are emptied. More concerning it seems he is trying to remake the military into a white supremacist ideology. https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-restores-merit-and-lethality-to-americas-armed-forces/
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFaF1qJxfDm/?igsh=MTFmbTN2N3FoN2FnMA==
I agree. Grab and hoard all the old books or scientific journals you can. Ask libraries what they are discarding. If the world ever wakes up from the nightmare that the internet has pushed upon us, the remaining ancient texts will be invaluable breadcrumbs to lead us out of the dark ages.

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« Reply #710 on: February 07, 2025, 10:28:24 AM »
New executive order dropped restoring our fighting force. One of the things it states is now pointing out the founding fathers were racist or sexist (c'mon they were! They owned slaves) is now "unamerican". They are rewriting history before our eyes folks. If you have paper history textbooks, be advised to hold onto them before the libraries are emptied. More concerning it seems he is trying to remake the military into a white supremacist ideology. https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-restores-merit-and-lethality-to-americas-armed-forces/
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFaF1qJxfDm/?igsh=MTFmbTN2N3FoN2FnMA==
I agree. Grab and hoard all the old books or scientific journals you can. Ask libraries what they are discarding. If the world ever wakes up from the nightmare that the internet has pushed upon us, the remaining ancient texts will be invaluable breadcrumbs to lead us out of the dark ages.

Just like The Book of Eli.

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« Reply #711 on: February 07, 2025, 11:12:24 AM »
Looks like Vladimir Putin will be seen by historians as the greatest spymaster in history.  Having his asset successfully take over and neutralize his country's most substantial threat is going to be seen as a masterful coup, probably more than he ever imagined possible.

Those of you in the US should start seriously planning for major disruption.  Because it is happening now.

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« Reply #712 on: February 07, 2025, 11:33:40 AM »
FBI to DoJ: We gave you the employee ID numbers of everyone involved in the Jan 6 cases.
DoJ: Not good enough. We want their names.

For perfectly benign reasons I'm sure.

https://x.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1887858166655819780

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« Reply #713 on: February 07, 2025, 12:12:20 PM »
The target nobody thought of: Trump signs EO against paper straws:

"I will be signing an Executive Order next week ending the ridiculous Biden push for Paper Straws, which don't work. BACK TO PLASTIC!" he said on social media.

Keep fighting the good fight, Donald.

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« Reply #714 on: February 07, 2025, 12:50:18 PM »
The target nobody thought of: Trump signs EO against paper straws:

"I will be signing an Executive Order next week ending the ridiculous Biden push for Paper Straws, which don't work. BACK TO PLASTIC!" he said on social media.

Keep fighting the good fight, Donald.
Perhaps we should write the administration to demand action on stuff like this that won't set off world war three?

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« Reply #715 on: February 07, 2025, 12:57:07 PM »
The target nobody thought of: Trump signs EO against paper straws:

"I will be signing an Executive Order next week ending the ridiculous Biden push for Paper Straws, which don't work. BACK TO PLASTIC!" he said on social media.

Keep fighting the good fight, Donald.
Perhaps we should write the administration to demand action on stuff like this that won't set off world war three?

Gotta be something that could at least plausibly piss off us liberals though.  Maybe eliminate sales tax on soda pop and burders?

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« Reply #716 on: February 07, 2025, 01:01:13 PM »
Trump wants to even out trade with Japan through energy sales. Most of Japan's energy comes from Saudi Arabia. The same Saudi Arabia we want to normalize relations with Israel.

https://x.com/jimsciutto/status/1887946976601264582

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« Reply #717 on: February 07, 2025, 01:14:32 PM »
Looks like Vladimir Putin will be seen by historians as the greatest spymaster in history.  Having his asset successfully take over and neutralize his country's most substantial threat is going to be seen as a masterful coup, probably more than he ever imagined possible.

Those of you in the US should start seriously planning for major disruption.  Because it is happening now.

Serious question.

What does this mean, in practice? What does 'planning' look like in terms of actionable goals?

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« Reply #718 on: February 07, 2025, 01:31:20 PM »
New executive order dropped restoring our fighting force. One of the things it states is now pointing out the founding fathers were racist or sexist (c'mon they were! They owned slaves) is now "unamerican". They are rewriting history before our eyes folks. If you have paper history textbooks, be advised to hold onto them before the libraries are emptied. More concerning it seems he is trying to remake the military into a white supremacist ideology. https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-restores-merit-and-lethality-to-americas-armed-forces/
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFaF1qJxfDm/?igsh=MTFmbTN2N3FoN2FnMA==
I agree. Grab and hoard all the old books or scientific journals you can. Ask libraries what they are discarding. If the world ever wakes up from the nightmare that the internet has pushed upon us, the remaining ancient texts will be invaluable breadcrumbs to lead us out of the dark ages.

For those who can't do physical and want to hopefully help archive digital...

Look up OpenStax and Kiwix.

Just a reminder, you can turn any smartphone into an offline Internet-In-A-Box digital library with little effort.

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« Reply #719 on: February 07, 2025, 02:04:14 PM »
The latest voter suppression tactic: the SAVE Act has been reintroduced in the House, which would require Americans to prove their citizenship with documentation many do not have. Especially at risk will be anyone who has changed their name from the one they had at birth through marriage or for any other reason.

Just a coincidence, surely, that lots of those people are likely to not vote Republican.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-save-act-would-disenfranchise-millions-of-citizens/

Edit: Just to say this explicitly, PLEASE call your Reps to protest this!
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« Reply #720 on: February 07, 2025, 02:13:53 PM »
Looks like Vladimir Putin will be seen by historians as the greatest spymaster in history.  Having his asset successfully take over and neutralize his country's most substantial threat is going to be seen as a masterful coup, probably more than he ever imagined possible.

Those of you in the US should start seriously planning for major disruption.  Because it is happening now.
Serious question.

What does this mean, in practice? What does 'planning' look like in terms of actionable goals?
  • Spend less money and save more. Expand your emergency fund to 12-24 months ASAP.
  • Consider establishing a secondary income stream, such as a weekend job.
  • Hedge investments, and look into hedging across currencies. This involves intense learning.
  • Reduce exposure to ongoing expenses, like gasoline from a gas guzzler, heating bills due to lack of insulation, debt payments, etc.
  • Learn a foreign language. DuoLingo can get you a long way for free.
  • Maintain a passport.
  • It may be time to take profits on appreciated housing and downsize / downlocation. If it turns out to be unnecessary, you live minimalist for a while, toughen up, and save a bunch of money. If it turns out to be necessary, you've unlocked hundreds of thousands of dollars in resources.
  • Pull forward any medical procedures, and work hard to get physically fit.
  • Stockpile the deep freeze in case of supply chain disruptions. Consider a generator for energy disruptions. Dried beans and rice can be stored up to 2 years.
  • Reduce your financial and sentimental exposure to assets that are liabilities such as expensive vehicles, unused land, collectables/art, oversized houses in areas with HOA dues, toys, etc.
  • Call up your old redneck buddy and tell him you want to learn how to use a gun. Even if you never get a gun, the experience will be good for your attitude. If you're scared of guns and have never used a gun, the world will be terrifying once everyone starts running around with them and you'll make worse decisions.
  • Start to work on beating any addictions or habits you might have, including vaping, alcohol, caffeine, sugar, tobacco, etc. Employ professionals if you don't see immediate results from your own efforts. This is absolutely necessary for resilience and mental clarity during a crisis.
  • Cultivate real-world friendships instead of spending all your time in metaphorical online "communities", including this one.
  • Make a pact with your real world friends to offer each other shelter or escape routes if the other is in need. Establish a network of safe houses in dispersed locations, with norms around turning off cell phones before coming over and whatnot.
  • Consider getting a dumb phone. Tell all your friends you will be giving them regular phone calls to chit chat rather than using social media. Then follow through on that. E.g. call and ask if they want to do stuff. This will lead to closer friendships and less tracking of your social circle. Keep a handwritten list of phone numbers in case your phone is bricked or becomes a liability that you need to throw into a moving train someday.
  • Last-resort stuff: Learn and practice survival skills such as gardening, hunting, trapping, shelter building, fire building, evasion, navigation, first aid, sailing, etc. A hunter's education book is a great place to start. Think about what you'd need to assemble a bug-out bag.
  • If your pet dies in the next couple of years, do not replace them until things settle down and you know you won't have to make a quick exit anytime soon. The emotional burden could prevent you from doing what you need to do to survive. In the meantime, commit to a plan to release them with a substantial food source and renewable water bucket (e.g. under a gutter) when it's a deadly situation for humans and time to go.
Higher level strategic stuff:
  • Think through and write down rudimentary plans for unforeseen consequences such as hiding people, ending up with orphans or the elderly under your care, cover stories, hidden cash, energy shortages, collapse of payment systems or currency, door-to-door draft mobilizations, etc.
  • Get on the same page with your SO, kids, best friends, or whomever will be going through the potential crisis with you. Do the activities above together. Resolve disagreements on contingency plans before any crisis, not during. Understand their fears, motivations, limitations, stressors, values, and acceptable outcomes.
  • Read books on the history of how people historically survived during transitions to authoritarian regimes or during periods of violent instability. Understand the roles of social connections, mobility, physical resilience, psychological preparedness, predisposition to action, financial resources, bureaucracy, linguistic skills, etc. in the stories of survivors and non-survivors. Consider the red lines in societal degradation that will trigger different phases of your plans.


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« Reply #721 on: February 07, 2025, 02:58:28 PM »
Good list.

Additions:

Boycott businesses facilitating authoritarianism.

Get into the habit of turning off your phone and all devices at night.

Do a deep privacy dive and clean up all your online exposure.

Freeze your credit.

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« Reply #722 on: February 07, 2025, 03:05:47 PM »
Read books on the history of how people historically survived during transitions to authoritarian regimes or during periods of violent instability. Understand the roles of social connections, mobility, physical resilience, psychological preparedness, predisposition to action, financial resources, bureaucracy, linguistic skills, etc. in the stories of survivors and non-survivors. Consider the red lines in societal degradation that will trigger different phases of your plans.

Already working on some of those things b/c frugal. Had the insulation guy out ot the house today as a matter of fact. I'm back to making sure we can operate comfortably on one income in case politics wrecks my job or DW's.

Would really like to see some book recommendations that addresses ChpBstrd's point. I'm not the most charismatic person b/c I'm too independent. Am also wondering if joining a church would be worth the effort. Not religious in the slightest but might be worthwhile for the social capital and to blend with my neighbors better.

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« Reply #723 on: February 07, 2025, 03:10:14 PM »
#vanlife for the win!
In the nomad community we often talk about how we're ahead in the survival game.


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« Reply #724 on: February 07, 2025, 04:00:50 PM »
https://bsky.app/profile/yasharali.bsky.social/post/3lhmp5vqdc42e

New EO putting white South Africans at the front of the line for aid and refugee status

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« Reply #725 on: February 07, 2025, 04:03:28 PM »
Read books on the history of how people historically survived during transitions to authoritarian regimes or during periods of violent instability. Understand the roles of social connections, mobility, physical resilience, psychological preparedness, predisposition to action, financial resources, bureaucracy, linguistic skills, etc. in the stories of survivors and non-survivors. Consider the red lines in societal degradation that will trigger different phases of your plans.

Already working on some of those things b/c frugal. Had the insulation guy out ot the house today as a matter of fact. I'm back to making sure we can operate comfortably on one income in case politics wrecks my job or DW's.

Would really like to see some book recommendations that addresses ChpBstrd's point. I'm not the most charismatic person b/c I'm too independent. Am also wondering if joining a church would be worth the effort. Not religious in the slightest but might be worthwhile for the social capital and to blend with my neighbors better.

Just to say, my church has many members who joined for the community first, and found faith second.   If you are a determined atheist, it may be hard to blend in.  But there are congregations who don't expect you to have grown up in a church, or come from a strong background of faith.

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« Reply #726 on: February 07, 2025, 04:17:15 PM »
Trump taking over the Kennedy Center

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/trump-kennedy-center-arts/681613/

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113964959500715895

Grrr...forum keeps wanting @ realDonaldTrump to be a member here and screwing up the url
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« Reply #727 on: February 07, 2025, 05:38:38 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/army/comments/1ik7dwz/book_banning_and_curriculum_censorship_in_dodea/?rdt=47554

DoDEA libraries and classrooms being culled of books to comply with Trump's EOs

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« Reply #728 on: February 07, 2025, 05:51:46 PM »
I saw this post by Jamie Raskin on Facebook/X today:

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Received this memo from constituents abroad on a US military base who are parents in the DOD school system. They’re outraged that censorship like this is happening against military families. One asked a school official why they removed photos on the walls of Susan B. Anthony and Dr. King but not Leonardo DaVinci and was told: “He was a real historical figure.”

Memo:

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« Reply #729 on: February 07, 2025, 07:20:19 PM »
Trump wants to even out trade with Japan through energy sales. Most of Japan's energy comes from Saudi Arabia. The same Saudi Arabia we want to normalize relations with Israel.

https://x.com/jimsciutto/status/1887946976601264582

Good luck.  Canada is working on sales to our Pacific Rim trading partners.  Including Japan. The US got cheap oil and gas, below world market value,  because of our trade agreement with the US.

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« Reply #730 on: February 07, 2025, 08:23:47 PM »
Removing all references to gender ideology means we are all gender neutral now, right?

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« Reply #731 on: February 07, 2025, 08:58:08 PM »
Removing all references to gender ideology means we are all gender neutral now, right?

Nah, we are all female, and then there is the 50% of the population that is trans men.   Because going from female to male makes a man trans, right? That it happened as a fetus is irrelevant since it is sex at conception that counts.   /s


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« Reply #733 on: February 07, 2025, 11:01:04 PM »
If your kids are grown up don’t stop adopting pets. Millions die in shelters daily. The other suggestions to survive I agree with.

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« Reply #735 on: February 08, 2025, 11:43:10 AM »
And now this ...

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/07/nx-s1-5290263/trump-kennedy-center

https://playbill.com/article/kennedy-center-responds-to-trumps-intentions-to-take-control


https://x.com/PhilNvestigates/status/1888037684171428275

Another entry in a long line of "illegal, but he'll get away with it."

One question I have is how does the President of the US have time to run the Kennedy Center? Shouldn't he be busy with other more pressing matters?
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« Reply #736 on: February 08, 2025, 12:27:56 PM »
And now this ...

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/07/nx-s1-5290263/trump-kennedy-center

https://playbill.com/article/kennedy-center-responds-to-trumps-intentions-to-take-control


https://x.com/PhilNvestigates/status/1888037684171428275

Another entry in a long line of "illegal, but he'll get away with it."

One question I have is how does the President of the US have time to run the Kennedy Center? Shouldn't he be busy with other more pressing matters?
Probably better if he gets distracted by this.

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« Reply #737 on: February 08, 2025, 12:36:08 PM »
If your kids are grown up don’t stop adopting pets. Millions die in shelters daily. The other suggestions to survive I agree with.

+1
If you have any people in your social circle who are in the groups being targeted, it would probably reduce their stress a little to know you are willing to take in their pets should they feel the need to leave the country.  Even those not specifically targeted might be at risk of needing to relocate due to loss of their job or home.  I have relatives who were booted from public housing during the 1st 45 sdmin.
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« Reply #738 on: February 08, 2025, 01:10:27 PM »
Read books on the history of how people historically survived during transitions to authoritarian regimes or during periods of violent instability. Understand the roles of social connections, mobility, physical resilience, psychological preparedness, predisposition to action, financial resources, bureaucracy, linguistic skills, etc. in the stories of survivors and non-survivors. Consider the red lines in societal degradation that will trigger different phases of your plans.

Already working on some of those things b/c frugal. Had the insulation guy out ot the house today as a matter of fact. I'm back to making sure we can operate comfortably on one income in case politics wrecks my job or DW's.

Would really like to see some book recommendations that addresses ChpBstrd's point. I'm not the most charismatic person b/c I'm too independent. Am also wondering if joining a church would be worth the effort. Not religious in the slightest but might be worthwhile for the social capital and to blend with my neighbors better.

Just to say, my church has many members who joined for the community first, and found faith second.   If you are a determined atheist, it may be hard to blend in.  But there are congregations who don't expect you to have grown up in a church, or come from a strong background of faith.

A friend of mine recommended Universal Unitarian for just that reason.

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« Reply #739 on: February 08, 2025, 01:25:01 PM »
Read books on the history of how people historically survived during transitions to authoritarian regimes or during periods of violent instability. Understand the roles of social connections, mobility, physical resilience, psychological preparedness, predisposition to action, financial resources, bureaucracy, linguistic skills, etc. in the stories of survivors and non-survivors. Consider the red lines in societal degradation that will trigger different phases of your plans.

Already working on some of those things b/c frugal. Had the insulation guy out ot the house today as a matter of fact. I'm back to making sure we can operate comfortably on one income in case politics wrecks my job or DW's.

Would really like to see some book recommendations that addresses ChpBstrd's point. I'm not the most charismatic person b/c I'm too independent. Am also wondering if joining a church would be worth the effort. Not religious in the slightest but might be worthwhile for the social capital and to blend with my neighbors better.

Just to say, my church has many members who joined for the community first, and found faith second.   If you are a determined atheist, it may be hard to blend in.  But there are congregations who don't expect you to have grown up in a church, or come from a strong background of faith.

A friend of mine recommended Universal Unitarian for just that reason.
https://uua.org - this socially awkward atheist fits right in.

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« Reply #740 on: February 08, 2025, 01:27:13 PM »
And now this ...

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/07/nx-s1-5290263/trump-kennedy-center

https://playbill.com/article/kennedy-center-responds-to-trumps-intentions-to-take-control


https://x.com/PhilNvestigates/status/1888037684171428275

Another entry in a long line of "illegal, but he'll get away with it."

One question I have is how does the President of the US have time to run the Kennedy Center? Shouldn't he be busy with other more pressing matters?

He won’t run it. He seeks to kill it from neglect.

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« Reply #741 on: February 08, 2025, 01:50:22 PM »
Join a church just because of Trump? Never. Not gonna play fascist either. This is what they count on, good people who do nothing.

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« Reply #742 on: February 08, 2025, 02:54:27 PM »
Looks like Vladimir Putin will be seen by historians as the greatest spymaster in history.  Having his asset successfully take over and neutralize his country's most substantial threat is going to be seen as a masterful coup, probably more than he ever imagined possible.

Those of you in the US should start seriously planning for major disruption.  Because it is happening now.
Serious question.

What does this mean, in practice? What does 'planning' look like in terms of actionable goals?
  • Spend less money and save more. Expand your emergency fund to 12-24 months ASAP.
  • Consider establishing a secondary income stream, such as a weekend job.
  • Hedge investments, and look into hedging across currencies. This involves intense learning.
  • Reduce exposure to ongoing expenses, like gasoline from a gas guzzler, heating bills due to lack of insulation, debt payments, etc.
  • Learn a foreign language. DuoLingo can get you a long way for free.
  • Maintain a passport.
  • It may be time to take profits on appreciated housing and downsize / downlocation. If it turns out to be unnecessary, you live minimalist for a while, toughen up, and save a bunch of money. If it turns out to be necessary, you've unlocked hundreds of thousands of dollars in resources.
  • Pull forward any medical procedures, and work hard to get physically fit.
  • Stockpile the deep freeze in case of supply chain disruptions. Consider a generator for energy disruptions. Dried beans and rice can be stored up to 2 years.
  • Reduce your financial and sentimental exposure to assets that are liabilities such as expensive vehicles, unused land, collectables/art, oversized houses in areas with HOA dues, toys, etc.
  • Call up your old redneck buddy and tell him you want to learn how to use a gun. Even if you never get a gun, the experience will be good for your attitude. If you're scared of guns and have never used a gun, the world will be terrifying once everyone starts running around with them and you'll make worse decisions.
  • Start to work on beating any addictions or habits you might have, including vaping, alcohol, caffeine, sugar, tobacco, etc. Employ professionals if you don't see immediate results from your own efforts. This is absolutely necessary for resilience and mental clarity during a crisis.
  • Cultivate real-world friendships instead of spending all your time in metaphorical online "communities", including this one.
  • Make a pact with your real world friends to offer each other shelter or escape routes if the other is in need. Establish a network of safe houses in dispersed locations, with norms around turning off cell phones before coming over and whatnot.
  • Consider getting a dumb phone. Tell all your friends you will be giving them regular phone calls to chit chat rather than using social media. Then follow through on that. E.g. call and ask if they want to do stuff. This will lead to closer friendships and less tracking of your social circle. Keep a handwritten list of phone numbers in case your phone is bricked or becomes a liability that you need to throw into a moving train someday.
  • Last-resort stuff: Learn and practice survival skills such as gardening, hunting, trapping, shelter building, fire building, evasion, navigation, first aid, sailing, etc. A hunter's education book is a great place to start. Think about what you'd need to assemble a bug-out bag.
  • If your pet dies in the next couple of years, do not replace them until things settle down and you know you won't have to make a quick exit anytime soon. The emotional burden could prevent you from doing what you need to do to survive. In the meantime, commit to a plan to release them with a substantial food source and renewable water bucket (e.g. under a gutter) when it's a deadly situation for humans and time to go.
Higher level strategic stuff:
  • Think through and write down rudimentary plans for unforeseen consequences such as hiding people, ending up with orphans or the elderly under your care, cover stories, hidden cash, energy shortages, collapse of payment systems or currency, door-to-door draft mobilizations, etc.
  • Get on the same page with your SO, kids, best friends, or whomever will be going through the potential crisis with you. Do the activities above together. Resolve disagreements on contingency plans before any crisis, not during. Understand their fears, motivations, limitations, stressors, values, and acceptable outcomes.
  • Read books on the history of how people historically survived during transitions to authoritarian regimes or during periods of violent instability. Understand the roles of social connections, mobility, physical resilience, psychological preparedness, predisposition to action, financial resources, bureaucracy, linguistic skills, etc. in the stories of survivors and non-survivors. Consider the red lines in societal degradation that will trigger different phases of your plans.

Food for thought, thanks. Unfortunately, the option to 'bug out' isn't available due to multiple animals and a very aged mother who is totally dependent. And if it got to where abandonment was the only option, I'd euthanize my animals first...speaking as a wildlife biologist, I would find releasing pets wildly unethical; euthanize them would be far more merciful.  But some of the other stuff that I haven't already done I'll look into.

It's also highly ironic that we are just a year or two from upsizing our home and expenses, rather than downsizing, in an effort to get away from a terrible but low cost of living area. We are aware that if the shit hits the fan, we might not be able to (or might regret it). If ONLY we could downsize, that's so ironic.

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« Reply #743 on: February 08, 2025, 03:26:03 PM »
Removing all references to gender ideology means we are all gender neutral now, right?

Nah, we are all female, and then there is the 50% of the population that is trans men.   Because going from female to male makes a man trans, right? That it happened as a fetus is irrelevant since it is sex at conception that counts.   /s


Hahahahahaha . . . I've never thought about this before, but you're right.  Going to file this away for future conversations.

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« Reply #744 on: February 08, 2025, 03:49:57 PM »
Removing all references to gender ideology means we are all gender neutral now, right?

Nah, we are all female, and then there is the 50% of the population that is trans men.   Because going from female to male makes a man trans, right? That it happened as a fetus is irrelevant since it is sex at conception that counts.   /s


Hahahahahaha . . . I've never thought about this before, but you're right.  Going to file this away for future conversations.

I mean, they believe a fetus is a person from conception on, right?

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« Reply #745 on: February 08, 2025, 04:10:35 PM »
...
Food for thought, thanks. Unfortunately, the option to 'bug out' isn't available due to multiple animals and a very aged mother who is totally dependent. And if it got to where abandonment was the only option, I'd euthanize my animals first...speaking as a wildlife biologist, I would find releasing pets wildly unethical; euthanize them would be far more merciful.  But some of the other stuff that I haven't already done I'll look into.

Many of the things on ChpBstrd's list are useful.  However, some aren't realistic for most of us, if only due to logistics.  For instance, I'd bet that if even 1/100th of the people in my corner of the US tried subsistence hunting or farming, they would starve.  Water sources would become undrinkable.  There just isn't enough open land to support us without factory farms.  If a few have to flee or go into hiding though, survival skills are good to have in your back pocket.  For most, it's better to keep a good community, especially for vulnerable people in a red state.

I'd underscore and highlight ChpBstrd's strategic items. 

I'll add one additional actionable item:

 - leave big social media now.  It's your advertising dollars that are paying Musk and Zuckerberg.  Don't click on X and Facebook links, or share them.  Telegram too.  Find other, better news sources.  Consider Mastodon (or maybe Bluesky) if you need a news feed.





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« Reply #746 on: February 09, 2025, 03:35:37 AM »
Many of the things on ChpBstrd's list are useful.  However, some aren't realistic for most of us, if only due to logistics.  For instance, I'd bet that if even 1/100th of the people in my corner of the US tried subsistence hunting or farming, they would starve.  Water sources would become undrinkable.  There just isn't enough open land to support us without factory farms. 
That's not true. It takes a whole different sort fo farming, and that unfortunately takes years to set up (esp. fruit trees), but it's doable.
Look for regenerative farming, permaculture and food forests if you want. Not that long ago I watched a video about a forgotten agroforest that is now a suburb - proof that it can work for your scenario, if you have big enough yards (and many have).

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In other news, Trump has stopped the criminal investigators that were looking into Russia sanctions. Officially they should now look inot drug cartels.
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« Reply #747 on: February 09, 2025, 03:40:52 AM »
I feel like it would be easier to just leave the country rather than doing all the stuff on that list. Back in 2021, I swore to myself that I would get out of the country before the next presidential election, because I figured we were in for some politically volatile times. And that’s exactly what I did. Now I don’t need to go full on prepper mode.

If you are also this concerned, I recommend you leave the country.

I took my inspiration from Albert Einstein. He was a smart guy. He saw what was happening in his country and made his exit a full year before Hitler came into power. This is the way.
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« Reply #748 on: February 09, 2025, 05:09:02 AM »
And now this ...

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/07/nx-s1-5290263/trump-kennedy-center

https://playbill.com/article/kennedy-center-responds-to-trumps-intentions-to-take-control


https://x.com/PhilNvestigates/status/1888037684171428275

Another entry in a long line of "illegal, but he'll get away with it."

One question I have is how does the President of the US have time to run the Kennedy Center? Shouldn't he be busy with other more pressing matters?

Yeah, like leading the noble crusade against paper straws.

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« Reply #749 on: February 09, 2025, 08:37:08 AM »
Read books on the history of how people historically survived during transitions to authoritarian regimes or during periods of violent instability. Understand the roles of social connections, mobility, physical resilience, psychological preparedness, predisposition to action, financial resources, bureaucracy, linguistic skills, etc. in the stories of survivors and non-survivors. Consider the red lines in societal degradation that will trigger different phases of your plans.

Already working on some of those things b/c frugal. Had the insulation guy out ot the house today as a matter of fact. I'm back to making sure we can operate comfortably on one income in case politics wrecks my job or DW's.

Would really like to see some book recommendations that addresses ChpBstrd's point. I'm not the most charismatic person b/c I'm too independent. Am also wondering if joining a church would be worth the effort. Not religious in the slightest but might be worthwhile for the social capital and to blend with my neighbors better.

Just to say, my church has many members who joined for the community first, and found faith second.   If you are a determined atheist, it may be hard to blend in.  But there are congregations who don't expect you to have grown up in a church, or come from a strong background of faith.

Not an outspoken atheist. Just go about my days quietly IRL.