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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #1400 on: March 18, 2025, 08:41:18 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/18/politics/video/michael-baumgartner-town-hall-trump-spokane-digvid

Spokane WA town hall meeting where constituents said “this is getting really scary” referring to anti-Canada aggression and a Canadian flag was flown.

Town Halls are on fire right now.

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lkorkxmcvc22

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« Reply #1401 on: March 19, 2025, 09:17:08 AM »
Trump ignores warnings from all security agencies about Russian propaganda/interference/cyber-attacks in the United States and dismantles efforts to fight it:


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Several U.S. national security agencies have halted work on a co-ordinated effort to counter Russian sabotage, disinformation and cyberattacks, easing pressure on Moscow as the Trump administration pushes Russia to end its war in Ukraine.

Former president Joe Biden last year ordered his national security team to establish working groups to monitor the issue amid warnings from U.S. intelligence that Russia was escalating a shadow war against Western nations.

The plan was led by the president's National Security Council and involved at least seven national security agencies working with European allies to disrupt plots targeting Europe and the United States, seven former officials who participated in the working groups told Reuters.

Before President Donald Trump was inaugurate his incoming administration was briefed by Biden officials about the efforts and urged to continue monitoring Russia's hybrid warfare campaign, the former U.S. officials said.

However, since Trump took office on Jan. 20, much of the work has come to a standstill, according to 11 current and former officials, all of whom requested anonymity to discuss classified matters. Reuters is the first to report on the full extent of the Biden administration effort and how multiple different U.S. agencies have since paused their work on the issue.

Regular meetings between the National Security Council and European national security officials have gone unscheduled, and the council has also stopped formally co-ordinating efforts across U.S. agencies, including with the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the State Department, the current and former officials said.

Reuters could not determine whether the president has ordered the administration to halt all its work monitoring and combatting Russia's campaign, whether agencies were still working to hire additional staff or if they are making their own policy decisions independent of the White House.

Some officials involved in the working groups said they are concerned that the Trump administration is downgrading the issue despite intelligence warnings. The change follows the unwinding of other Russia-focused projects launched by Biden's administration.

The FBI last month ended an effort to counter interference in U.S. elections by foreign adversaries including Russia and put on leave staff working on the issue at the Department of Homeland Security. The Department of Justice also disbanded a team that seized the assets of Russian oligarchs.

 - https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-russian-sabotage-counterefforts-1.7487326

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« Reply #1402 on: March 19, 2025, 09:50:28 AM »
Trump ignores warnings from all security agencies about Russian propaganda/interference/cyber-attacks in the United States and dismantles efforts to fight it:

He's been doing that since before he was elected the first time. He's benefited from the propaganda.

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« Reply #1403 on: March 19, 2025, 10:44:34 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/18/politics/video/michael-baumgartner-town-hall-trump-spokane-digvid

Spokane WA town hall meeting where constituents said “this is getting really scary” referring to anti-Canada aggression and a Canadian flag was flown.

Town Halls are on fire right now.

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lkorkxmcvc22
I tried to attend one and couldn’t get in because the building was full.

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« Reply #1404 on: March 19, 2025, 11:11:34 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/18/politics/video/michael-baumgartner-town-hall-trump-spokane-digvid

Spokane WA town hall meeting where constituents said “this is getting really scary” referring to anti-Canada aggression and a Canadian flag was flown.

Town Halls are on fire right now.

https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lkorkxmcvc22
I tried to attend one and couldn’t get in because the building was full.

My rep had one online a couple nights ago and it capped at 12k. I couldn't get in.

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« Reply #1405 on: March 19, 2025, 01:26:31 PM »
Trump ignores warnings from all security agencies about Russian propaganda/interference/cyber-attacks in the United States and dismantles efforts to fight it:

...

 - https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-russian-sabotage-counterefforts-1.7487326

You have to know that Solarwinds is going to happen again.  Probably worse this time.

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« Reply #1406 on: March 20, 2025, 03:19:33 PM »
Trump signs EO to dismantle the Department of Education with a bunch of kids sitting around him as props as if they're in a classroom.

https://bsky.app/profile/nikkimcr.bsky.social/post/3lktkntktef2o

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/improving-education-outcomes-by-empowering-parents-states-and-communities/

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« Reply #1407 on: March 20, 2025, 03:30:27 PM »
there are zero guardrails.  it's really scary that this is only two months in...

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #1408 on: March 20, 2025, 04:34:11 PM »

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« Reply #1409 on: March 21, 2025, 12:04:36 AM »
First it was getting Zuck to pay him $25 million for deleting his Facebook account, now its "pay me $40 million worth of legal services and say you're sorry" for being part of the investigations into his New York businesses. Trump literally using the DoJ to shake down anyone who he thinks has wronged him.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-targets-law-firm-paul-weiss-restricting-government/story?id=119828394

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« Reply #1410 on: March 21, 2025, 07:07:55 AM »
First it was getting Zuck to pay him $25 million for deleting his Facebook account, now its "pay me $40 million worth of legal services and say you're sorry" for being part of the investigations into his New York businesses. Trump literally using the DoJ to shake down anyone who he thinks has wronged him.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-targets-law-firm-paul-weiss-restricting-government/story?id=119828394

https://bsky.app/profile/hugolowell.bsky.social/post/3lktqwqjvlc2k

How humiliating for those lawyers and the Weiss firm.  I think this is unprecedented, but then again we've been saying that every day since January 20. 
There must have been a "first 90 days" revenge list and they are tearing through it.

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« Reply #1411 on: March 21, 2025, 07:16:33 AM »
As a lawyer, I’m horrified at Paul Weiss paying a $40 million dollar bribe so they can continue to do business. Make no mistake, the EOs targeting law firms had the power to seriously damage and possibly bankrupt their business (losing clients worried about being targeted next, inability to work on matters requiring security clearances, inability to talk to federal employees as part of their work, etc.) for the “crime” of a *successful* prosecution. (This wasn’t a frivolous lawsuit, for which a bar might legitimately sanction a lawyer.) However, this blatantly unconstitutional executive order and the law firm’s response has a chilling impact on the fundamental right to legal representation of your choice, if lawyers are targeted for representing people's/entities that those in power don’t like. Ordinary Americans should be absolutely terrified, but instead almost no one notices. They’re not lawyers after all so why does it impact them? Forgetting of course that they may have a case in the future, and no one to stand between them and a perhaps unjust accusation/action.

At first they came for…

Add this to the rhetoric on impeaching judges for decisions against Trump, and the checks and balances on our separation of powers has crumbled.

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« Reply #1412 on: March 21, 2025, 07:37:25 AM »
As a lawyer, I’m horrified at Paul Weiss paying a $40 million dollar bribe so they can continue to do business. Make no mistake, the EOs targeting law firms had the power to seriously damage and possibly bankrupt their business (losing clients worried about being targeted next, inability to work on matters requiring security clearances, inability to talk to federal employees as part of their work, etc.) for the “crime” of a *successful* prosecution. (This wasn’t a frivolous lawsuit, for which a bar might legitimately sanction a lawyer.) However, this blatantly unconstitutional executive order and the law firm’s response has a chilling impact on the fundamental right to legal representation of your choice, if lawyers are targeted for representing people's/entities that those in power don’t like. Ordinary Americans should be absolutely terrified, but instead almost no one notices. They’re not lawyers after all so why does it impact them? Forgetting of course that they may have a case in the future, and no one to stand between them and a perhaps unjust accusation/action.

At first they came for…

Add this to the rhetoric on impeaching judges for decisions against Trump, and the checks and balances on our separation of powers has crumbled.

It was the law firms and higher education I had counted on to really fight back. 

If there are any institutions that have both the power and the reputational need to stand up for things like due process, freedom of speech, etc, it is Big Law and academia.

Our country is truly fucked with those institutions caving.

There is no restraint on law enforcement agencies trampling rights because of sovereign immunity.  They already are.  They may not be able to get convictions because of their bad behavior, but convictions aren't the point.  Fear and intimidation are.

The courts will be largely useless.  They can declare executive orders and firings illegal.  But they can force federal agencies to do their jobs about as well as I can force my 7 year old to put away laundry. 

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« Reply #1413 on: March 21, 2025, 08:15:16 AM »
I've been watching Democrat-led town halls. Amazingly, not a thing has changed since the 20-teens: the same slogans that only appeal to the in-group, the lack of situational awareness of what's going on with right-wing-controlled media, the lack of recognition that anything is wrong with their usually-losing strategy, the old class-warfare paradigm, the lack of connection with non-urbanites, the abiding belief in top-down media driven strategies over grassroots real-world communities, the delusion that the judicial system is impartial, the attitude that protest-and-go-home behavior is effective, the unwillingness to question the Republican party's ties to Russia, the continued expulsion of business people as class enemies, and the continued obsession with "raising awareness" as if the plan is to compel some newly aware person to do the work for them. There's this odd alarmism living in harmony alongside a business-as-usual attitude, and a really odd absence of fresh ideas from such creative people.

It is as if a national football team was coached in a way that produced losing records for over a decade. By 2024 the team lost almost every game, and yet the fans and coaches remain certain that if they just keep doing things the same way, the next season will be a winner. Ideology is one thing, but to have a dogmatic attachment to tactics and strategy is simply odd. It's getting harder and harder to have confidence in American democracy if escaping single-party rule means believing in these folks.

Perhaps this is how it happens in many countries where democracy collapses. The embattled in-group huddles together and focuses on an internal purge of dissent at the direction of the elders who led them into the chaos in the first place. Then they boldly yet half-heartedly go forth with an obsolete plan. Such will be the case with the 2026 midterms. The die has been cast, and no rebels have stepped forward to challenge the status quo of losing.

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« Reply #1414 on: March 21, 2025, 09:44:43 AM »
As a lawyer, I’m horrified at Paul Weiss paying a $40 million dollar bribe so they can continue to do business. Make no mistake, the EOs targeting law firms had the power to seriously damage and possibly bankrupt their business (losing clients worried about being targeted next, inability to work on matters requiring security clearances, inability to talk to federal employees as part of their work, etc.) for the “crime” of a *successful* prosecution. (This wasn’t a frivolous lawsuit, for which a bar might legitimately sanction a lawyer.) However, this blatantly unconstitutional executive order and the law firm’s response has a chilling impact on the fundamental right to legal representation of your choice, if lawyers are targeted for representing people's/entities that those in power don’t like. Ordinary Americans should be absolutely terrified, but instead almost no one notices. They’re not lawyers after all so why does it impact them? Forgetting of course that they may have a case in the future, and no one to stand between them and a perhaps unjust accusation/action.

At first they came for…

Add this to the rhetoric on impeaching judges for decisions against Trump, and the checks and balances on our separation of powers has crumbled.

Lawyer at the firm Rachel Cohen wrote an open letter calling out this arrangement. She's being fired.

https://x.com/AnnaBower/status/1902983492054692269

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rachelxcohen_i-just-put-in-conditional-notice-at-skadden-activity-7308686339435044864-gmb9/

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« Reply #1415 on: March 21, 2025, 10:11:06 AM »
As a lawyer, I’m horrified at Paul Weiss paying a $40 million dollar bribe so they can continue to do business. Make no mistake, the EOs targeting law firms had the power to seriously damage and possibly bankrupt their business (losing clients worried about being targeted next, inability to work on matters requiring security clearances, inability to talk to federal employees as part of their work, etc.) for the “crime” of a *successful* prosecution. (This wasn’t a frivolous lawsuit, for which a bar might legitimately sanction a lawyer.) However, this blatantly unconstitutional executive order and the law firm’s response has a chilling impact on the fundamental right to legal representation of your choice, if lawyers are targeted for representing people's/entities that those in power don’t like. Ordinary Americans should be absolutely terrified, but instead almost no one notices. They’re not lawyers after all so why does it impact them? Forgetting of course that they may have a case in the future, and no one to stand between them and a perhaps unjust accusation/action.

At first they came for…

Add this to the rhetoric on impeaching judges for decisions against Trump, and the checks and balances on our separation of powers has crumbled.

It was the law firms and higher education I had counted on to really fight back. 

If there are any institutions that have both the power and the reputational need to stand up for things like due process, freedom of speech, etc, it is Big Law and academia.

Our country is truly fucked with those institutions caving.

There is no restraint on law enforcement agencies trampling rights because of sovereign immunity.  They already are.  They may not be able to get convictions because of their bad behavior, but convictions aren't the point.  Fear and intimidation are.

The courts will be largely useless.  They can declare executive orders and firings illegal.  But they can force federal agencies to do their jobs about as well as I can force my 7 year old to put away laundry.

I left academia in 2016 because of gutless administration caving to political pressure at my university. I have not been surprised by them caving, sadly.

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« Reply #1416 on: March 21, 2025, 04:32:31 PM »
I just saw a White House interview from I think this morning.  Someone (brave person) asked Trump about the fact that Canada would be a very blue state, and he totally ignored it, started the standard ramble about the imaginary line and how great a state we would be but how nasty we are.  The man is running on autopilot. 

Of course we expect that we would never be allowed to vote, because we would be a very big blue state (or I have heard he has said we would be 2 states).  We know being the 51st state is very much not in our best interests. 

These days being called nasty by him is a great compliment.  Along the lines of, you know the character of a person by who is their enemy.

Oh, and with ICE anyone who might still have been thinking of visiting the States is watching tourists of various nationalities being imprisoned by ICE and being harassed by local police.  If I had business in the US I would be doing it by Zoom, not in person.  The US has never been a safe place for a lot of its citizens, but it was usually OK for foreign nationals.

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« Reply #1417 on: March 21, 2025, 06:13:12 PM »
I just saw a White House interview from I think this morning.  Someone (brave person) asked Trump about the fact that Canada would be a very blue state, and he totally ignored it, started the standard ramble about the imaginary line and how great a state we would be but how nasty we are.  The man is running on autopilot. 

Of course we expect that we would never be allowed to vote, because we would be a very big blue state (or I have heard he has said we would be 2 states).  We know being the 51st state is very much not in our best interests. 

These days being called nasty by him is a great compliment.  Along the lines of, you know the character of a person by who is their enemy.

Oh, and with ICE anyone who might still have been thinking of visiting the States is watching tourists of various nationalities being imprisoned by ICE and being harassed by local police.  If I had business in the US I would be doing it by Zoom, not in person.  The US has never been a safe place for a lot of its citizens, but it was usually OK for foreign nationals.

I'm waiting for a Canadian politician to put down a challenge.  Canada can vote to become the 51st state if each US state gets to vote on whether to become a Canadian province. 

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« Reply #1418 on: March 21, 2025, 07:58:25 PM »
I just saw a White House interview from I think this morning.  Someone (brave person) asked Trump about the fact that Canada would be a very blue state, and he totally ignored it, started the standard ramble about the imaginary line and how great a state we would be but how nasty we are.  The man is running on autopilot. 

Of course we expect that we would never be allowed to vote, because we would be a very big blue state (or I have heard he has said we would be 2 states).  We know being the 51st state is very much not in our best interests. 

These days being called nasty by him is a great compliment.  Along the lines of, you know the character of a person by who is their enemy.

Oh, and with ICE anyone who might still have been thinking of visiting the States is watching tourists of various nationalities being imprisoned by ICE and being harassed by local police.  If I had business in the US I would be doing it by Zoom, not in person.  The US has never been a safe place for a lot of its citizens, but it was usually OK for foreign nationals.

I'm waiting for a Canadian politician to put down a challenge.  Canada can vote to become the 51st state if each US state gets to vote on whether to become a Canadian province.

We aren't really territorially acquisitive.  We suggested it once to the Turks and Caicos, because there is a lot of Canadian tourism and investment there.  They weren't interested, we didn't push.

Can't speak for the government,  but Cascadia, for example, seems viable.  Really, when I cast my very naive and uneducated eyes on the US  you look like the national equivalent of Africa's Great Rift Valley.  Slowly slowly splitting apart.

I've lived through the Quebec separatist movement,  I know the potential of a country splitting along a social fault line is there.

Edit:  Hawaii would work.  Still has the Union Jack as part of the state flag.  Least American state I've been to.
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« Reply #1419 on: March 22, 2025, 12:14:36 AM »
Trump's hard-line immigration policy is hitting more and more people, including those with residence permits
Donald Trump promised his voters a tough immigration policy and has been delivering on that promise since his election. But he has now gone so far that there are serious concerns about whether he is ignoring judges. Flights full of, in Trump’s own words, Venezuelan gang members are leaving America without trial, and stories are emerging from all over the country of people being deported for inexplicable reasons.

From a status holder who has lived in the country for more than thirty years to German holidaymakers, and from a French scientist who criticized Trump's policies in an app conversation to a Canadian actress working in Los Angeles: more and more people are at risk of deportation.

It happened to newlyweds Bradley Bartell and Silvia Muñoz. Upon returning to the Wisconsin airport from their honeymoon in Puerto Rico, an immigration agent asked her if she was a U.S. citizen. Muñoz answered honestly, "No, I'm from Peru."

Although she had applied for a residence permit and had just married an American, she was taken away by ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Service. Now Bartell can only speak to his wife from the detention center, where phone calls cost thirty cents a minute. "Unreal and terrible," he told NOS.

[...]

Trump has won the votes of many Americans with his promise to rid America of " criminal immigrants ". Bradley Bartell also voted for Trump, "but the approach has been much tougher than expected", he says now. He is very worried about his wife, who is locked in a room full of bunk beds with eighty strangers.

Wearing their wedding rings, the couple trusted that immigration officials would realize that Silvia had properly applied for a green card, a residence permit. But her original visa had already expired. Bartell says, "My lawyer explained to me that this is not how it's supposed to be. When you marry an American, you shouldn't have these problems."

[...]


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As a lawyer, I’m horrified at Paul Weiss paying a $40 million dollar bribe so they can continue to do business. Make no mistake, the EOs targeting law firms had the power to seriously damage and possibly bankrupt their business (losing clients worried about being targeted next, inability to work on matters requiring security clearances, inability to talk to federal employees as part of their work, etc.) for the “crime” of a *successful* prosecution. (This wasn’t a frivolous lawsuit, for which a bar might legitimately sanction a lawyer.) However, this blatantly unconstitutional executive order and the law firm’s response has a chilling impact on the fundamental right to legal representation of your choice, if lawyers are targeted for representing people's/entities that those in power don’t like. Ordinary Americans should be absolutely terrified, but instead almost no one notices. They’re not lawyers after all so why does it impact them? Forgetting of course that they may have a case in the future, and no one to stand between them and a perhaps unjust accusation/action.

At first they came for…

Add this to the rhetoric on impeaching judges for decisions against Trump, and the checks and balances on our separation of powers has crumbled.

Lawyer at the firm Rachel Cohen wrote an open letter calling out this arrangement. She's being fired.

https://x.com/AnnaBower/status/1902983492054692269

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rachelxcohen_i-just-put-in-conditional-notice-at-skadden-activity-7308686339435044864-gmb9/

It's chilling what's going on.

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« Reply #1420 on: March 22, 2025, 05:33:05 AM »
I've been watching Democrat-led town halls. Amazingly, not a thing has changed since the 20-teens: the same slogans that only appeal to the in-group, the lack of situational awareness of what's going on with right-wing-controlled media, the lack of recognition that anything is wrong with their usually-losing strategy, the old class-warfare paradigm, the lack of connection with non-urbanites, the abiding belief in top-down media driven strategies over grassroots real-world communities, the delusion that the judicial system is impartial, the attitude that protest-and-go-home behavior is effective, the unwillingness to question the Republican party's ties to Russia, the continued expulsion of business people as class enemies, and the continued obsession with "raising awareness" as if the plan is to compel some newly aware person to do the work for them. There's this odd alarmism living in harmony alongside a business-as-usual attitude, and a really odd absence of fresh ideas from such creative people.

It is as if a national football team was coached in a way that produced losing records for over a decade. By 2024 the team lost almost every game, and yet the fans and coaches remain certain that if they just keep doing things the same way, the next season will be a winner. Ideology is one thing, but to have a dogmatic attachment to tactics and strategy is simply odd. It's getting harder and harder to have confidence in American democracy if escaping single-party rule means believing in these folks.

Perhaps this is how it happens in many countries where democracy collapses. The embattled in-group huddles together and focuses on an internal purge of dissent at the direction of the elders who led them into the chaos in the first place. Then they boldly yet half-heartedly go forth with an obsolete plan. Such will be the case with the 2026 midterms. The die has been cast, and no rebels have stepped forward to challenge the status quo of losing.
Perhaps the Democratic leaders got smug and assumed recent immigrants would carry the vote. Instead, many newbies preferred to pull up the ladder behind them and voted for the Orange Idi Amin and the spineless Grand Ole Party, believing they would be accepted by conservatives. Wrong. They took the hard-won battles against racism and sexism for granted. They thought that all the woke TV commercials, shows, movies and HR departments adorned in pride flags were real and representative of American society. Wrong again.


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« Reply #1421 on: March 22, 2025, 08:09:21 AM »
"Although she had applied for a residence permit and had just married an American, she was taken away by ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Service."
As much as I hate to say it, this person had overstayed their visa. Applying for a green card is nowhere close to the same thing as having a green card.
I had an American bf and was surprised that I couldn't just marry him and become American. I guess everyone would just get married if it gave you citizenship.

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« Reply #1422 on: March 22, 2025, 02:31:22 PM »
Trump declaring war against any law firm that sues or has previously sued him or his government.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/

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« Reply #1423 on: March 23, 2025, 06:27:21 AM »
"Although she had applied for a residence permit and had just married an American, she was taken away by ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Service."
As much as I hate to say it, this person had overstayed their visa. Applying for a green card is nowhere close to the same thing as having a green card.
I had an American bf and was surprised that I couldn't just marry him and become American. I guess everyone would just get married if it gave you citizenship.


And what are those people supposed to do while USCIS is (optimistically) taking 17 months to process an I-130 petition?  Forcibly live apart in different countries for a year and a half?

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« Reply #1424 on: March 23, 2025, 08:13:02 AM »
"Although she had applied for a residence permit and had just married an American, she was taken away by ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Service."
As much as I hate to say it, this person had overstayed their visa. Applying for a green card is nowhere close to the same thing as having a green card.
I had an American bf and was surprised that I couldn't just marry him and become American. I guess everyone would just get married if it gave you citizenship.


And what are those people supposed to do while USCIS is (optimistically) taking 17 months to process an I-130 petition?  Forcibly live apart in different countries for a year and a half?
Weeeelll, yeah? What they are not supposed do is let their visa expire. Or leave the country and try to return. He could still visit her in Peru or wherever. 

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« Reply #1425 on: March 23, 2025, 08:17:49 AM »
As I understand it, before now, being in the US without proper documentation was treated as a misdemeanor, and generally no one was deported unless they had committed a crime.

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« Reply #1426 on: March 23, 2025, 08:30:55 AM »
"Although she had applied for a residence permit and had just married an American, she was taken away by ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Service."
As much as I hate to say it, this person had overstayed their visa. Applying for a green card is nowhere close to the same thing as having a green card.
I had an American bf and was surprised that I couldn't just marry him and become American. I guess everyone would just get married if it gave you citizenship.


And what are those people supposed to do while USCIS is (optimistically) taking 17 months to process an I-130 petition?  Forcibly live apart in different countries for a year and a half?

Wishing for a different process is not a plan.  Why did she not renew her visa, as she was applying for residency?  Why didn't they go to Peru for a time?  There are options.  Maybe they explored them, and the article simpliy didn't list them.  But their own comments tell me they just thought they could get away with it.

This is the opposite of throwing the baby out with the bath water.  "Trump voter surprised that wife, who overstayed her visa, was detained" doesn't garner much sympathy.

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« Reply #1427 on: March 23, 2025, 09:29:44 AM »

It's chilling what's going on.

We stopped visiting USA for pleasure since 2017, and definitely will continue this position going forward, regardless to my wife would like to visit Mardi Gras, and I miss recreating in Oregon and Washington states.   My parents too, take their holidays elsewhere, they used to visit FLA twice a year.

We used to visit 2 or 3 times a summer, for a week or two at a time. 

They can keep their great country.  I guess this is the goal anyway, but it's sad.
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« Reply #1428 on: March 23, 2025, 09:56:56 AM »

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« Reply #1429 on: March 23, 2025, 01:09:58 PM »
Trump declaring war against any law firm that sues or has previously sued him or his government.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/

Of the innumerable abuses taken by this administration, this one is in the top tier for me of most dangerous and damaging. Alongside gutting the Federal government and firing those who are not sufficiently loyal to the cult of Trump, it is all part of dismantling any resistance.

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« Reply #1430 on: March 23, 2025, 01:28:35 PM »
Among the flurry of Executive Orders Trump put out in his first day in office, the one dealing with the so-called emergency at the Southern border included this little-known provision at the bottom:

"Sec. 6 (b)  Within 90 days of the date of this proclamation, the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall submit a joint report to the President about the conditions at the southern border of the United States and any recommendations regarding additional actions that may be necessary to obtain complete operational control of the southern border, including whether to invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807." (my emphasis)

That 90-day deadline arrives this April 20, just three weeks from now (the report could have already been prepared and delivered to Trump, of course).

Why would a President need recommendations from the Sec. or Defense and Homeland Security to invoke the Insurrection Act (meant, of course, to put down the threat of a coup, rebellion, government overthrow, Civil War, mass rioting endangering a populace, etc.), in order to deal with a so-called border threat from migrants? Why would a President even be foreseeing the need to do such a thing without any actual "insurrection" happening? Or, perhaps, is it just inviting a pretext for dealing with a populace who is not on board with your agenda, at any time in the future?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declaring-a-national-emergency-at-the-southern-border-of-the-united-states/


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« Reply #1431 on: March 23, 2025, 06:07:10 PM »
"Although she had applied for a residence permit and had just married an American, she was taken away by ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Service."
As much as I hate to say it, this person had overstayed their visa. Applying for a green card is nowhere close to the same thing as having a green card.
I had an American bf and was surprised that I couldn't just marry him and become American. I guess everyone would just get married if it gave you citizenship.


And what are those people supposed to do while USCIS is (optimistically) taking 17 months to process an I-130 petition?  Forcibly live apart in different countries for a year and a half?
Weeeelll, yeah? What they are not supposed do is let their visa expire. Or leave the country and try to return. He could still visit her in Peru or wherever.

Yes this is what my son and his wife did 18 years ago. They basically saw each other a few times a year in Poland. She left before her visa expired and when they were ready to get married they applied for the 90 day fiancée visa. They were very careful not to violate any of the laws.

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« Reply #1432 on: March 23, 2025, 07:07:05 PM »
Trump declaring war against any law firm that sues or has previously sued him or his government.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/

Of the innumerable abuses taken by this administration, this one is in the top tier for me of most dangerous and damaging. Alongside gutting the Federal government and firing those who are not sufficiently loyal to the cult of Trump, it is all part of dismantling any resistance.

Using Executive Orders to run a protection racket against law firms that may have ever personally wronged him.

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« Reply #1433 on: March 23, 2025, 08:36:14 PM »
Trump declaring war against any law firm that sues or has previously sued him or his government.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/

Of the innumerable abuses taken by this administration, this one is in the top tier for me of most dangerous and damaging. Alongside gutting the Federal government and firing those who are not sufficiently loyal to the cult of Trump, it is all part of dismantling any resistance.

Using Executive Orders to run a protection racket against law firms that he feels may have ever personally wronged him.

Fixed it for you

And yeah. Like I said, scary that he's deliberately targeting the legal system.

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« Reply #1434 on: March 24, 2025, 07:36:21 AM »
Trump declaring war against any law firm that sues or has previously sued him or his government.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/

Of the innumerable abuses taken by this administration, this one is in the top tier for me of most dangerous and damaging. Alongside gutting the Federal government and firing those who are not sufficiently loyal to the cult of Trump, it is all part of dismantling any resistance.

Using Executive Orders to run a protection racket against law firms that he feels may have ever personally wronged him.

Fixed it for you

And yeah. Like I said, scary that he's deliberately targeting the legal system.

The sad thing is that a law firm rolled over and caved to the pressure - One Firm Fights; One Firm Forfeits ft. Liz Dye

These are brazenly (and hilariously) unlawful EO's and kudos to Perkins and Coie for standing up to the bully.  But this is what America should be, above all else, a fair and just beacon of freedom where we can all have our day in court.  And that is why the law firm Paul Weiss bending to Trump in exchange for rescinding an EO against them is so sad.  It's also ridiculous because who really wants a lawyer that, "will back down, won't stand up to bullies, and won't fight for you just as they didn't stand up for themselves."

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« Reply #1435 on: March 24, 2025, 08:39:41 AM »
Half a million others agreed with us in February.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/trade-war-local-spring-break-travel-boom-1.7490011

I live in Bellingham, WA, where we normally have tons of BC visitors and shoppers.  Prior to Trump 2.0, I'd say that close to half of the cars at our Costco would be sporting BC plates on a given weekend; nowadays they're few and far between. 

Hoping it doesn't hit our local economy too bad, especially since we're largely a Canada-loving, Trump-hating bunch.  That said, I don't begrudge the boycotts and other actions Canadians are taking to express their discontent.  Trump is a bane on the entire world, aside from his few favored dictatorships, and it's beyond disgraceful that this country elected him again.

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« Reply #1436 on: March 24, 2025, 08:48:32 AM »
Trump declaring war against any law firm that sues or has previously sued him or his government.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/

Of the innumerable abuses taken by this administration, this one is in the top tier for me of most dangerous and damaging. Alongside gutting the Federal government and firing those who are not sufficiently loyal to the cult of Trump, it is all part of dismantling any resistance.

Using Executive Orders to run a protection racket against law firms that he feels may have ever personally wronged him.

Fixed it for you

And yeah. Like I said, scary that he's deliberately targeting the legal system.

The sad thing is that a law firm rolled over and caved to the pressure - One Firm Fights; One Firm Forfeits ft. Liz Dye

These are brazenly (and hilariously) unlawful EO's and kudos to Perkins and Coie for standing up to the bully.  But this is what America should be, above all else, a fair and just beacon of freedom where we can all have our day in court.  And that is why the law firm Paul Weiss bending to Trump in exchange for rescinding an EO against them is so sad.  It's also ridiculous because who really wants a lawyer that, "will back down, won't stand up to bullies, and won't fight for you just as they didn't stand up for themselves."

A friend of mine who works at a big law firm in NY said this is all everyone there is talking about. Apparently at Paul Weiss the litigation partners wanted to fight it but the M&A didn't and it has caused a massive, massive rift in the firm.

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« Reply #1437 on: March 24, 2025, 08:50:25 AM »
This whole thing is really making me ponder. I look at people in my family history who have done various careers with varying success. And one of the things I was taught, was not just to earn a living, but to do that within your moral compass. And it was possible to make a living, and do the right thing. I wonder if having morals and ethical boundaries is now considered a liability in this day and age.

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« Reply #1438 on: March 24, 2025, 09:07:11 AM »
This whole thing is really making me ponder. I look at people in my family history who have done various careers with varying success. And one of the things I was taught, was not just to earn a living, but to do that within your moral compass. And it was possible to make a living, and do the right thing. I wonder if having morals and ethical boundaries is now considered a liability in this day and age.

He’s a rapist.

He’s not someone the rest of us should emulate, but rather protect ourselves from. Forewarned is forarmed.

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« Reply #1439 on: March 24, 2025, 09:41:19 AM »
This whole thing is really making me ponder. I look at people in my family history who have done various careers with varying success. And one of the things I was taught, was not just to earn a living, but to do that within your moral compass. And it was possible to make a living, and do the right thing. I wonder if having morals and ethical boundaries is now considered a liability in this day and age.

He’s a rapist.

He’s not someone the rest of us should emulate, but rather protect ourselves from. Forewarned is forarmed.

The rape is, I’m sorry to say, the least of it. His whole life has been one big moral abyss. Given a choice of behavior options in any situation, it’s almost guaranteed he will pick the most egregious one.The more power he has had, the worse those choices have become.

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« Reply #1440 on: March 24, 2025, 10:37:33 AM »
This whole thing is really making me ponder. I look at people in my family history who have done various careers with varying success. And one of the things I was taught, was not just to earn a living, but to do that within your moral compass. And it was possible to make a living, and do the right thing. I wonder if having morals and ethical boundaries is now considered a liability in this day and age.

He’s a rapist.

He’s not someone the rest of us should emulate, but rather protect ourselves from. Forewarned is forarmed.

The rape is, I’m sorry to say, the least of it. His whole life has been one big moral abyss. Given a choice of behavior options in any situation, it’s almost guaranteed he will pick the most egregious one.The more power he has had, the worse those choices have become.

What I will never understand is why Republican women can look at this man and vote for him.  The ballot is secret, they could have said "yes dear" to their husbands forever and still voted against him.  Have they no sense of self-preservation for themselves and their daughters?

I'm reminded of advice I once saw: If you don't know which way to vote, ask someone whose character/morals you despise which way they will vote.  Then vote the opposite.

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« Reply #1441 on: March 24, 2025, 10:42:57 AM »
This whole thing is really making me ponder. I look at people in my family history who have done various careers with varying success. And one of the things I was taught, was not just to earn a living, but to do that within your moral compass. And it was possible to make a living, and do the right thing. I wonder if having morals and ethical boundaries is now considered a liability in this day and age.

He’s a rapist.

He’s not someone the rest of us should emulate, but rather protect ourselves from. Forewarned is forarmed.

The rape is, I’m sorry to say, the least of it. His whole life has been one big moral abyss. Given a choice of behavior options in any situation, it’s almost guaranteed he will pick the most egregious one.The more power he has had, the worse those choices have become.

What I will never understand is why Republican women can look at this man and vote for him.  The ballot is secret, they could have said "yes dear" to their husbands forever and still voted against him.  Have they no sense of self-preservation for themselves and their daughters?

I'm reminded of advice I once saw: If you don't know which way to vote, ask someone whose character/morals you despise which way they will vote.  Then vote the opposite.

Women liked hunting witches too, women may have actually been the majority of accusers. Lots of people are just disgusting and conservative politics seems to just attract them these days because it's based on nothing other than revenge and grievances.

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« Reply #1442 on: March 24, 2025, 11:00:46 AM »
This whole thing is really making me ponder. I look at people in my family history who have done various careers with varying success. And one of the things I was taught, was not just to earn a living, but to do that within your moral compass. And it was possible to make a living, and do the right thing. I wonder if having morals and ethical boundaries is now considered a liability in this day and age.

He’s a rapist.

He’s not someone the rest of us should emulate, but rather protect ourselves from. Forewarned is forarmed.

The rape is, I’m sorry to say, the least of it. His whole life has been one big moral abyss. Given a choice of behavior options in any situation, it’s almost guaranteed he will pick the most egregious one.The more power he has had, the worse those choices have become.

What I will never understand is why Republican women can look at this man and vote for him.  The ballot is secret, they could have said "yes dear" to their husbands forever and still voted against him.  Have they no sense of self-preservation for themselves and their daughters?

I'm reminded of advice I once saw: If you don't know which way to vote, ask someone whose character/morals you despise which way they will vote.  Then vote the opposite.

Women liked hunting witches too, women may have actually been the majority of accusers. Lots of people are just disgusting and conservative politics seems to just attract them these days because it's based on nothing other than revenge and grievances.

My Republican mom still thinks Trump is "a good man" somehow.  Idk how, exactly, all evidence to the contrary.  If I had to guess, it's a combination of her living in the deep South and being surrounded by lies + her lifelong anti-abortion beliefs and Trump being responsible for overturning Roe v Wade through his S.C. appointments.  I would guess that she thinks the rape allegations are lies and her position on abortion has no nuance whatsoever so she's probably unconcerned about maternal deaths.  Idk how she explains away the fact that he cheated on ALL THREE of his wives...

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« Reply #1443 on: March 24, 2025, 11:11:37 AM »
This whole thing is really making me ponder. I look at people in my family history who have done various careers with varying success. And one of the things I was taught, was not just to earn a living, but to do that within your moral compass. And it was possible to make a living, and do the right thing. I wonder if having morals and ethical boundaries is now considered a liability in this day and age.

He’s a rapist.

He’s not someone the rest of us should emulate, but rather protect ourselves from. Forewarned is forarmed.

The rape is, I’m sorry to say, the least of it. His whole life has been one big moral abyss. Given a choice of behavior options in any situation, it’s almost guaranteed he will pick the most egregious one.The more power he has had, the worse those choices have become.

What I will never understand is why Republican women can look at this man and vote for him.  The ballot is secret, they could have said "yes dear" to their husbands forever and still voted against him.  Have they no sense of self-preservation for themselves and their daughters?

I'm reminded of advice I once saw: If you don't know which way to vote, ask someone whose character/morals you despise which way they will vote.  Then vote the opposite.

Women liked hunting witches too, women may have actually been the majority of accusers. Lots of people are just disgusting and conservative politics seems to just attract them these days because it's based on nothing other than revenge and grievances.

Crabs in a barrel syndrome. The human animal lives in hierarchical, complex communities similar to ants, bees, and termites. No other mammal/predator/ape creates vast networked community like we do.

Power distribution is a central aspect of human society. In most non-matriarchal human communities, women compete among each other within their stratum in the existing power structure. They cannot break out of it, only rise to the top of their echelon and curry favor with those in power.

Further, women often use the only unique power they have — sex and reproduction — to advance. (However there are multiple other levers of power that humans use beyond sex including beauty, strength, intelligence, creativity, medicinal, resource cultivation, wealth, charisma, connections, wisdom, spirituality, family, etc.)

Ironically, youth is revered as a powerful quality in modern society but has no actual power — the young are a resource to be exploited/consumed/controlled.

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« Reply #1444 on: March 24, 2025, 12:14:30 PM »
The National Security Council members planned the airstrikes against the Houthis on Signal app. The group consisted of the VP, SECDEF, NSA, DNI, White House comms, SECSTATE. And one of them accidently invited a reporter from the Atlantic to the conversation. The text chain included policy and communications discussions as well as the intimate details of the actual strike package. NSC and White House confirmed that it happened, but are spinning this as a good example of the cabinet working together rather than, you know, HAVING A TOP SECRET DISCUSSION OVER THE PHONE MIGHT BE A BAD FUCKING IDEA.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/?gift=Cgqh0-mGExsQQ_xEA88IsFBTXcgGKcOJRI1x7WcTigU

https://archive.li/JEYep

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« Reply #1445 on: March 24, 2025, 12:16:49 PM »
The National Security Council members planned the airstrikes against the Houthis on Signal app. The group consisted of the VP, SECDEF, NSA, DNI, White House comms, SECSTATE. And one of them accidently invited a reporter from the Atlantic to the conversation. The text chain included policy and communications discussions as well as the intimate details of the actual strike package. NSC and White House confirmed that it happened, but are spinning this as a good example of the cabinet working together rather than, you know, HAVING A TOP SECRET DISCUSSION OVER THE PHONE MIGHT BE A BAD FUCKING IDEA.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/?gift=Cgqh0-mGExsQQ_xEA88IsFBTXcgGKcOJRI1x7WcTigU

https://archive.li/JEYep

I’m reading this article right now. INSANE

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« Reply #1446 on: March 24, 2025, 12:21:44 PM »
Man, the US is really going to be hurt by the total disregard for security that this administration has.

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« Reply #1447 on: March 24, 2025, 12:25:06 PM »
Man, the US is really going to be hurt by the total disregard for security that this administration has.

I'm sure we've already been hurt. We just don't know it yet.  Remember boxes of Top Secret files at MAL that the FBI confiscated? He took those files back last month.

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« Reply #1448 on: March 24, 2025, 12:33:35 PM »
Man, the US is really going to be hurt by the total disregard for security that this administration has.

I'm sure we've already been hurt. We just don't know it yet.  Remember boxes of Top Secret files at MAL that the FBI confiscated? He took those files back last month.

There was an article in the Guardian last month suggesting that maybe the Five Eyes wasn't a good idea for the UK.

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« Reply #1449 on: March 24, 2025, 12:35:28 PM »
Man, the US is really going to be hurt by the total disregard for security that this administration has.

I'm sure we've already been hurt. We just don't know it yet.  Remember boxes of Top Secret files at MAL that the FBI confiscated? He took those files back last month.

There was an article in the Guardian last month suggesting that maybe the Five Eyes wasn't a good idea for the UK.

I hope Canada is considering the information we share with the US very carefully these days.