Post by: Erica/NWEdible on August 17, 2015, 11:19:05 AM
By all evidence of my politics, peers, general tolerance for smut and shock - I should adore this comedian Amy Schumer everyone's talking about. So I finally sat down yesterday, sought out some of her stand-up on YouTube, watched a half-hour and didn't laugh once. Huh. That's odd.
So then my FB peeps tell me she has a TV show, and that's what I need to watch. Another 30 minutes spent watching clips from TV show. Maybe a few half-hearted chuckles, but at no point am I actually laughing. So at this point I've spent an hour of my life trying to find Amy Schumer's comedy funny, but I just don't, so I give up.
People I really respect, and whose tastes typically run parallel to my own, tell me this woman is a comedic genius, f-ing hilarious, pushing social boundaries, etc. - so I *should* love her comedy, but...meh. I just don't.
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Post by: forummm on August 17, 2015, 12:13:53 PM
I've been reading the Game of Thrones. They are kind of interesting but not amazing. I like them enough to finish them. But not like "I can't put this down". And I would be OK just reading a plot summary to find out what happens (out of curiosity). Maybe it's one of the rare things where the video version is better?
Unless I've just been really overworked, I don't like doing nothing. My mind starts trying to figure out something so the time isn't wasted I guess.
I don't like alcohol.
Post by: Erica/NWEdible on August 17, 2015, 12:20:23 PM
Huh, she makes me cry laughing. Especially this one: https://youtu.be/G9JmCHmH35k
If that one doesn't make you laugh, then yes, you def don't like her stuff
Chuckle at god saying, "I need to stop making so many white girls."
Otherwise - nada.
Post by: ClassyCat on August 17, 2015, 12:21:21 PM
I've only seen a few clips but the Amy Schumer stuff I've seen is OK. The premise is good or clever. But I wasn't laughing.
I've been reading the Game of Thrones. They are kind of interesting but not amazing. I like them enough to finish them. But not like "I can't put this down". And I would be OK just reading a plot summary to find out what happens (out of curiosity). Maybe it's one of the rare things where the video version is better?
Unless I've just been really overworked, I don't like doing nothing. My mind starts trying to figure out something so the time isn't wasted I guess.
I don't like alcohol.
I have the same thoughts on Game of Thrones. I wasn't super interested in the books or show after a certain point but was curious about what happened to the characters, so I was fully satisfied reading a plot summary.
And I also don't like alcohol.
Post by: GuitarStv on August 17, 2015, 12:24:10 PM
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Post by: KittyCat on August 17, 2015, 12:45:40 PM
My favorite stand-up comic is Gabriel Iglesias, although, I've only seen his specials.
Post by: Bob W on August 17, 2015, 01:07:20 PM
Craft beer and expensive whiskey--- not so much. I really don't like a lot of flavor in my beer and on any blind taste test will pick a $7 Canadian blend over that other stuff.
I guess technically I'm not supposed to like those as my friends are pretty much the same. So perhaps it is that I just don't like people who like craft beer and whiskey and can tell me the merits of the caramelized oak flavor in whatever.
Unfiltered wheat beer should just be poured down the drain at the brewery. "yeah, we thought about making ours filtered but then we found this whole demographic of people that prefer the feel of dust on their tongue when they drink beer and like the aftertaste to last for an hour"
Post by: choppingwood on August 17, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
It tastes like slime to me. Can only be swallowed if covered with so many bad for you things that the exercise is pointless.
And I think Amy Schumer can be too mean to be funny. But I'm not feeling any pressure about it.
Post by: GuitarStv on August 17, 2015, 01:19:03 PM
Craft beer and expensive whiskey--- not so much. I really don't like a lot of flavor in my beer and on any blind taste test will pick a $7 Canadian blend over that other stuff.
I guess technically I'm not supposed to like those as my friends are pretty much the same. So perhaps it is that I just don't like people who like craft beer and whiskey and can tell me the merits of the caramelized oak flavor in whatever.
Unfiltered wheat beer should just be poured down the drain at the brewery. "yeah, we thought about making ours filtered but then we found this whole demographic of people that prefer the feel of dust on their tongue when they drink beer and like the aftertaste to last for an hour"
Hmmm . . . an American complaining about beer that isn't bland enough and is too flavourful. Shocking testimony. :P
Post by: Cromacster on August 17, 2015, 01:28:21 PM
A friend works for a coffee importer, is master barista or something of the sort, and has been a judge at the world barista championships...so he knows his coffee. He made me a cup of what was rated as the best coffee in the world from 2014, from some small farm in Ecuador I think. Eh. Maybe I just don't know enough about coffee to truly appreciate it. It tasted way different than any coffee I had ever tasted, but I'd take my bulk costco brand house blend over it. Probably similar to how Bob W feels about craft beer, although I do love all sorts of craft beer and dislike the macros.
Re Amy Schumer...she can be hit or miss for me, but overall I'd say I like her. I recommend you checkout the episode that parodies Twelve angry men. She's not in it, but she wrote. I found it hilarious.
Post by: Kris on August 17, 2015, 01:28:51 PM
Babies. Yuck. Toddlers I get, they do funny stuff sometimes and watching them work out how the world works can be entertaining. Babies are virtually brain dead fluid and scream factories. They're like retarded hairless puppies.
Me, too. Children under 18... bleah.
The good news is that my stepdaughters are both over 18 now.
The bad news is, one of them just had a baby, so now I'm a grandma. I'm supposed to be going crazy over this kid. Meh.
Post by: swick on August 17, 2015, 01:40:18 PM
Oatmeal, as a cereal. I like oatmeal in cookies, I like oatmeal in rhubarb or berry crisp, I like some oatmeal in pancake batter. But I do not like oatmeal as a breakfast cereal.
It tastes like slime to me. Can only be swallowed if covered with so many bad for you things that the exercise is pointless.
And I think Amy Schumer can be too mean to be funny. But I'm not feeling any pressure about it.
I was just about to say Oatmeal...but you did it much better :) I love it as an ingredient and use it all the time! But as a hot cereal...mmm...no....no matter how much doctoring, I can only choke down a few bites.
Post by: Goldielocks on August 17, 2015, 01:43:04 PM
Babies. Yuck. Toddlers I get, they do funny stuff sometimes and watching them work out how the world works can be entertaining. Babies are virtually brain dead fluid and scream factories. They're like retarded hairless puppies.
Say what you really mean, stop holding back, just to be polite. It's the internet.
..grin..
Post by: matchewed on August 17, 2015, 01:55:07 PM
Post by: forummm on August 17, 2015, 02:15:09 PM
Coffee.
Concerts (among other reasons, the music is usually better on the recorded track).
The Sopranos. It was an OK series, but not "the greatest show ever".
Post by: MissStache on August 17, 2015, 02:17:04 PM
-The Hobbit (the book...haven't seen past the first movie)
-Tomatoes (yes, even garden fresh heirloom ones)
-Steak
-Bars/Clubs
Post by: Ozapftis on August 17, 2015, 02:17:15 PM
Up to this day I don't understand what's so great about the Harry Potter books and movies.
Also, I can't stand about 98% of what's on TV. Only exception: Relaxing/decelerating or somewhat informative stuff. I always liked the Bob Ross (painter) stuff, documentaries about nature, history, or science. No-Gos: mainstream sitcoms with over-energized characters and high-density talking.
Post by: KittyCat on August 17, 2015, 02:21:45 PM
Most sports.I don't like most sports, coffee, or concerts either. Yay!
Coffee.
Concerts (among other reasons, the music is usually better on the recorded track).
The Sopranos. It was an OK series, but not "the greatest show ever".
Post by: jba302 on August 17, 2015, 02:26:50 PM
Post by: Megma on August 17, 2015, 02:31:55 PM
Onions. Oh, how much easier eating at restaurants/other people's houses/potlucks would be if I could stand the taste of onions. They're in everything, which means everyone except me likes them, right?
I HATE onions and you are right they are in EVERYTHING. I meticulously read descriptions of everything I buy and today they still ended up in my lunch. :-(
But, yeah, apparently it's just the two of us :-)
Post by: Ozapftis on August 17, 2015, 02:36:03 PM
Monty Python. Every time I watch these I fall asleep from boredom.
+1. I've found "Spaceballs" to be equally entertaining...
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 17, 2015, 03:10:48 PM
I should have liked being engaged/planning my wedding/being a princess or whatever. I was SO RELIVED to be done with it all. Thrilled I'm married, but I did not enjoy getting there. (I did have a bit of fun picking my dress though, so there you go. And I ACTUALLY enjoyed writing the ceremony with DH, so that was fine).
"You're a 90s kid if...". I always just think "yes, I recognize that reference/product, yes that was fun, what's your point?" Maybe I'm just not particularly nostalgic.
Drunk history. I have had many friends recommend this to me, and I just think it's dumb.
(Wow, writing about things I don't like makes me feel like I'm a miserable person lol. I swear there are many things I appreciate and enjoy! Whiskey, hiking, puppies!)
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Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 17, 2015, 03:54:28 PM
I'm with you on Amy Schumer. Her and brussel sprouts. (And I seriously want to punch everyone who chimes in with "you just need to try them roasted.")
Ahhh, but what about roasted with balsalmic? Eh? Eh?
(I'm sorry, I could not contain myself from trolling. I'm with you actually- I'll eat them because they're healthy and DH likes them, but I doubt I'll ever go beyond 'tolerate')
Post by: Jakejake on August 17, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
Here is Amy Schumer at the Charlie Sheen roast
(And I seriously want to punch everyone who chimes in with "you just need to try them roasted.")Self-quoting for emphasis!
Post by: KittyCat on August 17, 2015, 03:59:46 PM
Beer.Those two are also on my list.
Clubs/Bars.
Post by: TheBuddha on August 17, 2015, 04:01:54 PM
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Post by: Jeremy E. on August 17, 2015, 04:16:38 PM
I used to feel the same way... I had to use so much brown sugar to make it taste acceptable that it seemed very unhealthy. But I found out 1 big spoonfull of Nutella or Peanut Butter can make an entire bowl of oatmeal taste amazing, try it and you probably won't be disappointedOatmeal, as a cereal. I like oatmeal in cookies, I like oatmeal in rhubarb or berry crisp, I like some oatmeal in pancake batter. But I do not like oatmeal as a breakfast cereal.
It tastes like slime to me. Can only be swallowed if covered with so many bad for you things that the exercise is pointless.
And I think Amy Schumer can be too mean to be funny. But I'm not feeling any pressure about it.
I was just about to say Oatmeal...but you did it much better :) I love it as an ingredient and use it all the time! But as a hot cereal...mmm...no....no matter how much doctoring, I can only choke down a few bites.
Post by: Jeremy E. on August 17, 2015, 04:19:57 PM
I hate onions too... I really dislike liars and try not to lie when possible, but I can't tell you how many times I've told people I'm allergic to onions... LOL. I get so many strange looks when I spend 5-10 minutes looking for onions and picking them out of a dish before I eat it. People will say, "you can't even taste them". However if that were true, I'm fairly certain people wouldn't use them so religiously.Onions. Oh, how much easier eating at restaurants/other people's houses/potlucks would be if I could stand the taste of onions. They're in everything, which means everyone except me likes them, right?
I HATE onions and you are right they are in EVERYTHING. I meticulously read descriptions of everything I buy and today they still ended up in my lunch. :-(
But, yeah, apparently it's just the two of us :-)
Post by: Kris on August 17, 2015, 04:31:47 PM
Games. I have a friend who always wants to get together and play games. He likes Corn Hole, card games, settlers of catan, etc. I really can't stand playing games. I'd be plenty happy to just get together and shoot the sh*t over a beer or something but he's always needing this extra thing to play. Ugh. He's a poor conversationalist though so that might make sense.
Oh, man, you and me both. Ugh. Every time I'm with people and someone suggests playing a game... Instat panic reaction. Nooooo... Don't make me do it! I will happily sit at the same table and read a book while you guys play, but... Please do me a favor and count me out.
Post by: Kris on August 17, 2015, 04:32:35 PM
Post by: trailrated on August 17, 2015, 04:41:48 PM
Everyone always says the same thing... "you just haven't had a good one" Then I try theirs and I think it sucks too...
Post by: Kris on August 17, 2015, 04:51:31 PM
Bloody Mary's
Everyone always says the same thing... "you just haven't had a good one" Then I try theirs and I think it sucks too...
Lol! Though I will say, my husband hated them, too, and I said exactly that. Then he had a good one, and now he loves them.
If you don't like tomato juice, though, pretty sure you're SOL..
Post by: TheBuddha on August 17, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
Post by: Eric on August 17, 2015, 04:57:51 PM
Concerts (among other reasons, the music is usually better on the recorded track).
Heh. I'm the exact opposite. I pretty much never listen to a studio album. I don't give a shit if you can perform in a studio. I want to hear you do it live. I want to hear how the music has changed over 6 months. I want to hear improvised solos that change every time they're played. Plus, the stage banter is way better. :)
The fact that sites like the Live Music Archive (http://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator) exist means that I'll never run out of cool shit to listen to.
Post by: justajane on August 17, 2015, 05:04:36 PM
Onions. Oh, how much easier eating at restaurants/other people's houses/potlucks would be if I could stand the taste of onions. They're in everything, which means everyone except me likes them, right?
I HATE onions and you are right they are in EVERYTHING. I meticulously read descriptions of everything I buy and today they still ended up in my lunch. :-(
But, yeah, apparently it's just the two of us :-)
And my husband. He can't tolerate them in anything. This includes green onions too. God, I miss cooking with onions.
My list:
Breaking Bad
Food Trucks
Adult cartoons like Bob's Burgers and Archer
Plays
Post by: CatamaranSailor on August 17, 2015, 05:10:04 PM
Small talk..bleck! Give me an honest to God conversation with a real person over "chit chat"
Coffee...prefer peppermint tea
95% of what's on TV (Although I am finding I like power watching West Wing a lot)
Cats
All the goddamed super hero movies! Enough!
Post by: Emilyngh on August 17, 2015, 05:22:10 PM
And I also don't like onions, at least not raw.
Hmmm, otherwise, some things that perhaps I should like, but don't include:
-Disneyland/world whatever
-pastries, pies, and really any sweet doughy thing (doughnuts, etc). Chocolate cake's ok, but otherwise, not a fan.
-butter and cream, including whipped (probably contributes to my dislike of the above)
-sports of any kind
-reading fiction/novels (I'm a nonfiction type of lady)
-traveling in general. There are a few exceptions of places I wouldn't mind going, but really not a traveler.
-high heels
-eating out most places
-Oh, and third to Big Bang. *Hate* that show (although a great part of it is it's promotion of such flat stereotypes of physicists. I find this downright harmful by encouraging those who do not fit the stereotypes to not feel like physics is for them).
Post by: choppingwood on August 17, 2015, 05:44:50 PM
I used to feel the same way... I had to use so much brown sugar to make it taste acceptable that it seemed very unhealthy. But I found out 1 big spoonfull of Nutella or Peanut Butter can make an entire bowl of oatmeal taste amazing, try it and you probably won't be disappointed
Since oatmeal and peanut butter are both likely to be in my emergency stores at any given point, I probably should try it before whatever apocolyptic (sp) event causes me to have to need them. If it doesn't work out, the dog would probably be keen about it.
Post by: minority_finance_mo on August 17, 2015, 06:01:31 PM
Give me a good beer any day. When I first graduated, I would get a hard drink when out with coworkers so I didn't seem like the kid, but I'm over it now. Beers for me.
Post by: Jeremy E. on August 17, 2015, 06:09:56 PM
As 22 year old, pretty much any liquor. Yuck!Choosing a good beer over liquor won't make you look like a kid, unless your definition of a good beer is "insert crap beer" light. But even a light beer will make you look more mature than people drinking fireball or angry orchard.
Give me a good beer any day. When I first graduated, I would get a hard drink when out with coworkers so I didn't seem like the kid, but I'm over it now. Beers for me.
Post by: minority_finance_mo on August 17, 2015, 07:23:22 PM
As 22 year old, pretty much any liquor. Yuck!Choosing a good beer over liquor won't make you look like a kid, unless your definition of a good beer is "insert crap beer" light. But even a light beer will make you look more mature than people drinking fireball or angry orchard.
Give me a good beer any day. When I first graduated, I would get a hard drink when out with coworkers so I didn't seem like the kid, but I'm over it now. Beers for me.
I'm not picky. Give me a blue moon and I'm golden!
Post by: DoubleDown on August 17, 2015, 07:33:17 PM
Post by: Inkedup on August 17, 2015, 07:49:43 PM
Watching sports.
Game of Thrones.
Most sci-fi stuff.
Shoes.
Most grooming/pampering stuff marketed to women: manis/pedis, facials, hair stuff (dyes, highlights) etc.
Children under age 18.
Pink stuff.
Post by: ArcadeStache on August 17, 2015, 08:09:49 PM
Post by: RosieTR on August 17, 2015, 08:52:23 PM
Kids movies/music/TV shows. Dumb plots with ear worms and woo, a couple of mildly funny adultish quips. How about I just stream Amy Schumer and watch Big Bang Theory (which I happen to like).
Post by: sheepstache on August 17, 2015, 09:24:40 PM
deep breath
Idon'tcareforTerryPratchett
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 17, 2015, 09:25:41 PM
I don't...oh geez, I'm not sure I can get it out even in this supportive bah-fest...I don't--
deep breath
Idon'tcareforTerryPratchett
OH MY GOD GET THE PITCHFORKS.
I appreciate your honesty. That took a lot of courage.
Post by: FLA on August 17, 2015, 09:36:26 PM
the show Community, I have never hated a show this much that people I love, love. DS and my brother watching it in marathons, quoting it, making inside "jokes". I'm glad to see my brother's back when he leaves.
However, my brother, DD and I do this with Arrested Development. And that is totally ok for one reason: Arrested Development is actually GOOD
Post by: sheepstache on August 17, 2015, 09:39:26 PM
I don't...oh geez, I'm not sure I can get it out even in this supportive bah-fest...I don't--
deep breath
Idon'tcareforTerryPratchett
OH MY GOD GET THE PITCHFORKS.
I appreciate your honesty. That took a lot of courage.
Thank you. I was only able to summon the courage because everyone is behind a screen and can't actually get to me with the pitchforks.
The only issue is if this turns into some sort of compulsion that I can't stop.
Haha
AlsoNeilGaimandoesn'treallydoanythingforme
OH FUCK
Post by: FLA on August 17, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
I don't...oh geez, I'm not sure I can get it out even in this supportive bah-fest...I don't--
deep breath
Idon'tcareforTerryPratchett
OH MY GOD GET THE PITCHFORKS.
I appreciate your honesty. That took a lot of courage.
Thank you. I was only able to summon the courage because everyone is behind a screen and can't actually get to me with the pitchforks.
The only issue is if this turns into some sort of compulsion that I can't stop.
Haha
AlsoNeilGaimandoesn'treallydoanythingforme
OH FUCK
100% agreed on both. My brother thinks he is a genius and these two come up every time he's home, I distract with, "did you hear what Chuck Palahniuk said yesterday?" Then make up something excruciatingly violent, bloody and graphic, sexually twisted, yet funny. I haven't lost yet!
Post by: sheepstache on August 17, 2015, 10:05:11 PM
I understand getting temporarily emotionally caught up in a story or finding abiding personal meaning in it but for some people there also seems to be a pat on the back for the ego for liking "geek" stuff, for "being such a nerd," for the identity of liking the things they do. To me, conversations between die hard football fans and die hard Star Wars fans kind of sound the same.
Somewhat related: franchises. I like each book or movie for itself. Should I like other things in the franchise just because they have some premise or character names in common? No. I don't give a fuck if I got really attached to some character in one work and now they're "ruining" her or whatever in another. I might be bothered by it but I don't, like, take it personally. In fact I don't get why people want to go see franchises at all considering you're not unhappy with what you've seen so far so new material can only make things worse.
100% agreed on both. My brother thinks he is a genius and these two come up every time he's home, I distract with, "did you hear what Chuck Palahniuk said yesterday?" Then make up something excruciatingly violent, bloody and graphic, sexually twisted, yet funny. I haven't lost yet!Ha ha that's right put a little hair on his chest.
The funny thing is Harlan Ellison is, like, my spirit animal, but I'm hard-pressed to define what really separates him from Gaiman. Other than that I'm 100% sure Harlan Ellison would win in a fight.
I need bookstores to be divided into two sections. "So fucking precious" and "other."
Post by: FLA on August 17, 2015, 10:29:20 PM
I need bookstores to be divided into two sections. "So fucking precious" and "other."
I think you just found out what to do when you are FIRED
Post by: SisterX on August 18, 2015, 01:08:46 AM
I should have liked being engaged/planning my wedding/being a princess or whatever. I was SO RELIVED to be done with it all. Thrilled I'm married, but I did not enjoy getting there. (I did have a bit of fun picking my dress though, so there you go. And I ACTUALLY enjoyed writing the ceremony with DH, so that was fine).
So much this. I HATED wedding planning. It was stressful and yet, somehow, mind-numbingly tedious all at the same time. And I had a fairly simple wedding. I don't feel that I can complain too much, though, because the actual day itself was super fun, and being married to my husband has been worth every second of aggravation. :)
For food: bananas, frozen mixed vegetables (my family claims that I'm "bizarre" for not liking them), and green peppers. I can taste those bad boys any way you prepare them and it's so hard not to spit out my food when I do.
Also, marijuana. Even the smell makes me want to gag, and the few times I've forced myself to get past that and actually try it were miserable. Paranoia with a side of boneless exhaustion followed by throwing up, anyone? Lovely.
Post by: cerebus on August 18, 2015, 01:10:24 AM
the show Community, I have never hated a show this much that people I love, love. DS and my brother watching it in marathons, quoting it, making inside "jokes". I'm glad to see my brother's back when he leaves.
Oh man that's the one show that can make me stop breathing from laughter... in its good episodes. Bad episodes are nearly unwatchable.
Jeff: Hey troy sneezes like a girl Troy: How about I pound you like a boy... that didn't come out right.
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However, my brother, DD and I do this with Arrested Development. And that is totally ok for one reason: Arrested Development is actually GOOD
Meh. The never-nude guy is funny though.
And for the onion haters - I feel so sorry for you. French onion soup is glorious. Onions appear in 95% of my cooking. They're my opening gambit. And I actually like Amy Schumer in small bits. She's gifted at ripping into a very specific kind of American female.
So personal dislikes...
1) Fizzy drinks. Why would you want to add pain to your throat when seeking refreshment? Only palatable at nearly subzero temperatures.
2) The Lord of the Rings movie trilogy and subsequent Hobbit-milking.
3) Cars. I still don't have a South African driving license. A car is a money-hemorrhaging necessity. If I could live completely vehicle-free, I would. There is no car, no matter the performance, that I actually covet to own.
4) Sports. I haven't watched a single sports match in maybe 6 years. I'm so non-competitive personally that I have a hard time finding the energy to root for a side over an affinity as specious as geographical proximity.
Post by: gooki on August 18, 2015, 01:33:13 AM
Post by: Nancy on August 18, 2015, 05:05:35 AM
Cards for holidays and berfdays
Cilantro
A lot of things culturally associated with being a woman (face paint, torture clothes and shoes, gossip, decorative pillows)
Post by: patrickza on August 18, 2015, 05:17:07 AM
-Alcohol
-Receiving gifts
Post by: Basenji on August 18, 2015, 05:51:14 AM
Working. Why am I expected to be engaged in my job?
You win. + 1000
Post by: justajane on August 18, 2015, 06:00:33 AM
A lot of things culturally associated with being a woman (face paint, torture clothes and shoes, gossip, decorative pillows)
I am exactly the same way, except for maybe the gossip part. I like to discuss the lives of people I know. Does that count as gossip?
But, yeah, throw pillows? Make-up? I just don't have all that in me.
Post by: MandyM on August 18, 2015, 06:29:56 AM
A lot of things culturally associated with being a woman (face paint, torture clothes and shoes, gossip, decorative pillows)
I am exactly the same way, except for maybe the gossip part. I like to discuss the lives of people I know. Does that count as gossip?
But, yeah, throw pillows? Make-up? I just don't have all that in me.
+1.
Carrot juice. I love carrots, I love most other juice. Carrot juice is vomit inducing.
I'm surprised to see cilantro on here 2-3 times. I didn't think it was popular enough to be disliked.
Post by: cerebus on August 18, 2015, 06:41:01 AM
I'm surprised to see cilantro on here 2-3 times. I didn't think it was popular enough to be disliked.
Some people have a genetic quirk that makes cilantro taste like soap apparently. I love the stuff.
Post by: iris lily on August 18, 2015, 06:49:29 AM
Huh, she makes me cry laughing. Especially this one: https://youtu.be/G9JmCHmH35k
If that one doesn't make you laugh, then yes, you def don't like her stuff
I'm not totally onboard with the idea that I "should" like stuff because tastes are so specific, but ok, I'll play. Stuff that I could potentially like based on some of my characteristics in common with people who do seem to like those things, but which actually leaves me cold:
Fantasy novels/movies/TV, elves, thrones, whatever. Yawn.
Festivals of any kind, music, medieval, burning effigies and such. No interest in large groups of people being conformistly nonconformist while camping.
Wine/beer tastings, I always want to smack people there
Okra--homegrown, doesn't matter, hate it
That Any Schumer one about herpes didn't make me laugh, but the clip immediately following about how Amy hates showing her mother how to use a computer made me cry-laugh.
Post by: happy on August 18, 2015, 06:50:25 AM
Changing my mind
Piercings
Tattoos
Trivia nights
Musicals
Watching sport
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 18, 2015, 07:22:16 AM
Babies. Yuck. Toddlers I get, they do funny stuff sometimes and watching them work out how the world works can be entertaining. Babies are virtually brain dead fluid and scream factories. They're like retarded hairless puppies.
Wait, we're supposed to like babies? I thought society at large was basically just collectively pretending that they're something besides a necessary evil? (Just kidding, my wife loves babies, but yeah, babies are objectively awful. I say this as someone who is expecting my third kid in December: they do get better with age :)
My addition to this list? Mayonnaise. Why the f*** does every f***ing sandwich I order come smothered with this disgusting s***? If I could go back in time and strangle the first f***er who decided that mixing an egg white with oil would result in anything other than an offensive gelatinous goop, I would do it right now.
Post by: MissStache on August 18, 2015, 07:25:33 AM
I'm surprised to see cilantro on here 2-3 times. I didn't think it was popular enough to be disliked.
Some people have a genetic quirk that makes cilantro taste like soap apparently. I love the stuff.
Me too, but here's the weird thing: I think it tastes like soap and I STILL like it!
Post by: Friar on August 18, 2015, 07:30:49 AM
My dislikes:
Cheese,
Butter,
Football (i.e. soccer)
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 18, 2015, 08:18:00 AM
My addition to this list? Mayonnaise. Why the f*** does every f***ing sandwich I order come smothered with this disgusting s***? If I could go back in time and strangle the first f***er who decided that mixing an egg white with oil would result in anything other than an offensive gelatinous goop, I would do it right now.
You and my DH are in agreement. Although he actually likes homemade mayo if it's made with the right oil. (Personally, I think it's more that he hates not knowing what is in a food rather than actually disliking the texture...)
Post by: G-dog on August 18, 2015, 08:28:11 AM
Asparagus
Champagne
Plays / theater
Classical music
Country music
Organized religion / god
Post by: Hall11235 on August 18, 2015, 08:46:45 AM
Any sort of crowd (15+ people)
Harry Potter
Travel
Social obligations (like taking shit from people or listening to people complain and acting like I'm supposed to approve)
Post by: KMMK on August 18, 2015, 08:54:28 AM
I went with puppies because if you've worked in vet clinics, not liking certain animals is seen as strange.
I'm geeky but I don't like the LoTR books, or the GoT books, but for both I generally like the movies/TV shows.
I don't like men who are clean-shaven, wearing suits, waxed chest kind of look. That seems to be something most women are expected to appreciate. I prefer the scruffy, hippy type.
Post by: Cromacster on August 18, 2015, 09:05:44 AM
Concerts (among other reasons, the music is usually better on the recorded track).
Heh. I'm the exact opposite. I pretty much never listen to a studio album. I don't give a shit if you can perform in a studio. I want to hear you do it live. I want to hear how the music has changed over 6 months. I want to hear improvised solos that change every time they're played. Plus, the stage banter is way better. :)
The fact that sites like the Live Music Archive (http://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator) exist means that I'll never run out of cool shit to listen to.
I love the fact that some concerts will now send you mp3 recordings from the conert. In my experience this is only for bigger names, but I enjoy being able to revisit the actual concert I was at. Even better if you can find professional video footage of the concert.
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 18, 2015, 09:11:58 AM
Concerts (among other reasons, the music is usually better on the recorded track).
Heh. I'm the exact opposite. I pretty much never listen to a studio album. I don't give a shit if you can perform in a studio. I want to hear you do it live. I want to hear how the music has changed over 6 months. I want to hear improvised solos that change every time they're played. Plus, the stage banter is way better. :)
The fact that sites like the Live Music Archive (http://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator) exist means that I'll never run out of cool shit to listen to.
I love the fact that some concerts will now send you mp3 recordings from the conert. In my experience this is only for bigger names, but I enjoy being able to revisit the actual concert I was at. Even better if you can find professional video footage of the concert.
I'm with forummm on this one - I hate live music. It's always too loud for me to enjoy comfortably, and concert environments are just not my cup of tea. I can count on one hand the number of concerts that I've actually enjoyed in my life.
Post by: Bob W on August 18, 2015, 09:17:29 AM
Post by: iamlittlehedgehog on August 18, 2015, 09:19:38 AM
Yep - never got into it. Sorry. Most of my friends are rabid fans so that doesn't help. I'll take Star Trek any day over Star Wars.
-Breaking Bad
-Game of Thrones
-small talk for the sake of being polite
-babies
-puppies (I love older dogs though, I'm not Satan)
-physical affection
Post by: Cromacster on August 18, 2015, 09:22:24 AM
-small talk for the sake of being polite
Ugh, I hate small talk. I am pretty sure my inability and disdain for small talk limits my career potential, but that's fine.
Post by: iamlittlehedgehog on August 18, 2015, 09:32:16 AM
Superhero movies and movie theaters in general.-small talk for the sake of being polite
Ugh, I hate small talk. I am pretty sure my inability and disdain for small talk limits my career potential, but that's fine.
I think if I was good at it I might enjoy it. I'm just terrible at picking up social cues about when I'm supposed to make small talk or what to ask. At the office people will ask how my weekend was and I say okay - it doesn't occur to me to return the question until much later when I see I missed the cue. The whole process is very stressful and draining. I know I can't be the only person with this issue.
Post by: Philociraptor on August 18, 2015, 09:44:07 AM
- Humans under the age of 21.
- Liquor that's been aged > 6 months in barrels.
- Outdoor activities.
- Most music with female singers.
I've been reading the Game of Thrones. They are kind of interesting but not amazing. I like them enough to finish them. But not like "I can't put this down". And I would be OK just reading a plot summary to find out what happens (out of curiosity). Maybe it's one of the rare things where the video version is better?
Correction: You are reading A Song of Ice and Fire. The book series that Game of Thrones is based off of is much better than the show IMO. More characters, you get to hear people's thoughts, prophecies and foreshadowing galore!
We could start a similar thread titled "Things you shouldn't like, but do". Saving money would be a common one.
Post by: quelinda on August 18, 2015, 09:58:23 AM
Games. I have a friend who always wants to get together and play games. He likes Corn Hole, card games, settlers of catan, etc. I really can't stand playing games. I'd be plenty happy to just get together and shoot the sh*t over a beer or something but he's always needing this extra thing to play. Ugh. He's a poor conversationalist though so that might make sense.
Oh, man, you and me both. Ugh. Every time I'm with people and someone suggests playing a game... Instat panic reaction. Nooooo... Don't make me do it! I will happily sit at the same table and read a book while you guys play, but... Please do me a favor and count me out.
YES! My children know that "Mom doesn't play games. Dad will play with you. Mom will happily read to you for hours, but she will not play games."
Post by: ketchup on August 18, 2015, 10:24:22 AM
Fast cars.
Alcohol more than twiceish a year.
Soda.
Coffee.
Reality TV. Well, most TV.
Cheese.
Babies and most children.
Anything Disney that isn't Pixar.
Things people have mentioned in this thread that I do like, quite a lot:
Onions. They make food taste good.
Puppies.
Breaking Bad
Post by: Eric on August 18, 2015, 12:38:18 PM
Concerts (among other reasons, the music is usually better on the recorded track).
Heh. I'm the exact opposite. I pretty much never listen to a studio album. I don't give a shit if you can perform in a studio. I want to hear you do it live. I want to hear how the music has changed over 6 months. I want to hear improvised solos that change every time they're played. Plus, the stage banter is way better. :)
The fact that sites like the Live Music Archive (http://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator) exist means that I'll never run out of cool shit to listen to.
I love the fact that some concerts will now send you mp3 recordings from the conert. In my experience this is only for bigger names, but I enjoy being able to revisit the actual concert I was at. Even better if you can find professional video footage of the concert.
I'm with forummm on this one - I hate live music. It's always too loud for me to enjoy comfortably, and concert environments are just not my cup of tea. I can count on one hand the number of concerts that I've actually enjoyed in my life.
At least you hate mayo, that vile disgusting shit. There's hope for you yet. Not sure about forummm though. Forummm, how do you feel about mayo? :)
Post by: Zikoris on August 18, 2015, 12:53:06 PM
They range from "meh, doesn't do anything for me" to "Oh god, get it away from me".
Post by: justajane on August 18, 2015, 01:16:17 PM
"Going out" (bars, restaurants, night clubs).
Oh, God, "going out" stinks. Let me add "Girls' Night Out" to the list. I do it with my single gal friends, because I do like them, but I would much rather go over to one of their houses and drink coffee or beer and talk for hours. They can't come over to my house, because I have three boys. Enough said.
Post by: iamlittlehedgehog on August 18, 2015, 01:21:06 PM
"Going out" (bars, restaurants, night clubs).
Oh, God, "going out" stinks. Let me add "Girls' Night Out" to the list. I do it with my single gal friends, because I do like them, but I would much rather go over to one of their houses and drink coffee or beer and talk for hours. They can't come over to my house, because I have three boys. Enough said.
Bachelor/Bachlorette Parties!
Baby Showers (I usually just send a gift or offer night sitting)
Bridal Showers - the stupid games! I had to dodge these like a mad woman in my early 20's.
Post by: justajane on August 18, 2015, 01:24:06 PM
"Going out" (bars, restaurants, night clubs).
Oh, God, "going out" stinks. Let me add "Girls' Night Out" to the list. I do it with my single gal friends, because I do like them, but I would much rather go over to one of their houses and drink coffee or beer and talk for hours. They can't come over to my house, because I have three boys. Enough said.
Bachelor/Bachlorette Parties!
Baby Showers (I usually just send a gift or offer night sitting)
Bridal Showers - the stupid games! I had to dodge these like a mad woman in my early 20's.
I have to admit that I have a soft spot for baby showers. I mean...the tiny, tiny clothes and shoes! But otherwise, yeah, it all blows.
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 18, 2015, 01:26:36 PM
Post by: BlueHouse on August 18, 2015, 02:10:07 PM
The temperature differential between ice cream and whipped cream is so obvious to my senses that I feel like I am eating a warm turd.
I suppose if I had whipped cream on a hot chocolate I could tolerate it, but now the thought of warm turd is associated with whipped cream, so that's out.
Post by: EricP on August 18, 2015, 03:00:31 PM
I'll start.
By all evidence of my politics, peers, general tolerance for smut and shock - I should adore this comedian Amy Schumer everyone's talking about. So I finally sat down yesterday, sought out some of her stand-up on YouTube, watched a half-hour and didn't laugh once. Huh. That's odd.
So then my FB peeps tell me she has a TV show, and that's what I need to watch. Another 30 minutes spent watching clips from TV show. Maybe a few half-hearted chuckles, but at no point am I actually laughing. So at this point I've spent an hour of my life trying to find Amy Schumer's comedy funny, but I just don't, so I give up.
People I really respect, and whose tastes typically run parallel to my own, tell me this woman is a comedic genius, f-ing hilarious, pushing social boundaries, etc. - so I *should* love her comedy, but...meh. I just don't.
Isn't Amy Schumer an admitted rapist? So it's probably a good thing you don't like her.
Post by: Dicey on August 18, 2015, 03:10:40 PM
LOL to both of you. My Bonus Kid won't touch mayo. Prefers his sandwiches without mustard as well. Seriously, you want your sandwich on dry bread? Okay, well it makes it easier to tell which one's yours, I guess.My addition to this list? Mayonnaise. Why the f*** does every f***ing sandwich I order come smothered with this disgusting s***? If I could go back in time and strangle the first f***er who decided that mixing an egg white with oil would result in anything other than an offensive gelatinous goop, I would do it right now.You and my DH are in agreement. Although he actually likes homemade mayo if it's made with the right oil. (Personally, I think it's more that he hates not knowing what is in a food rather than actually disliking the texture...)
Post by: Dee18 on August 18, 2015, 03:56:41 PM
Cats
Televisions on anywhere public...the gym, my college (playing a loop), restaurants, doctors' waiting rooms, even the juror assembly room at the courthouse
Post by: Erica/NWEdible on August 18, 2015, 04:05:51 PM
My addition to this list? Mayonnaise. Why the f*** does every f***ing sandwich I order come smothered with this disgusting s***? If I could go back in time and strangle the first f***er who decided that mixing an eggwhiteyolk with oil would result in anything other than an offensive gelatinous goop, I would do it right now.
In the spirit of "know thy enemy" it's an acid-oil emulsion bound with egg yolk. Whole egg sometimes, but yolk always.
I love real, homemade mayo. I'll take yours. :)
Isn't Amy Schumer an admitted rapist? So it's probably a good thing you don't like her.Wait...wha? For real?
Post by: Friar on August 18, 2015, 04:28:16 PM
Post by: Kris on August 18, 2015, 04:48:50 PM
What's the difference between a bachelorette party and a bridal shower?
Painting with broad strokes: A bridal shower is a party in the afternoon, typically with female friends and relatives, at someone's house, where the attendees give the bride gifts. Often silly, irritating games are played, and supposedly hilarious sexual innuendos are peppered throughout the event.
A bachelorette party is the bride and her bridesmaids and possibly other women of that general age, absent mothers of the bride and groom. Generally, this happens in the evening, involves one or more bars, alcohol, and quite possibly vomiting and/or decisions one will likely regret later.
Post by: OddOne on August 18, 2015, 04:52:42 PM
Post by: Emilyngh on August 18, 2015, 04:53:21 PM
I'll start.
By all evidence of my politics, peers, general tolerance for smut and shock - I should adore this comedian Amy Schumer everyone's talking about. So I finally sat down yesterday, sought out some of her stand-up on YouTube, watched a half-hour and didn't laugh once. Huh. That's odd.
So then my FB peeps tell me she has a TV show, and that's what I need to watch. Another 30 minutes spent watching clips from TV show. Maybe a few half-hearted chuckles, but at no point am I actually laughing. So at this point I've spent an hour of my life trying to find Amy Schumer's comedy funny, but I just don't, so I give up.
People I really respect, and whose tastes typically run parallel to my own, tell me this woman is a comedic genius, f-ing hilarious, pushing social boundaries, etc. - so I *should* love her comedy, but...meh. I just don't.
Isn't Amy Schumer an admitted rapist? So it's probably a good thing you don't like her.
Ummmm, no.
"Thought Catalog – which seems to be rapidly becoming the go-to site for terrible antifeminist posts – is making a bit of a stir on Reddit with a post bearing the deliberately provocative title “Wait A Second, Did Amy Schumer Rape a Guy?” Spoiler Alert: The anonymous author concludes that yes, she did. The anonymous author is full of shit."
read more: http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/05/07/no-amy-schumer-did-not-give-a-speech-celebrating-how-she-raped-a-guy/
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 18, 2015, 04:54:48 PM
Isn't Amy Schumer an admitted rapist? So it's probably a good thing you don't like her.Wait...wha? For real?
I've heard her accused of being a racist, not a rapist.
Post by: Jeremy E. on August 18, 2015, 04:55:06 PM
KaleYou shouldn't like kale, but you should eat it anyway. Sorry.
Post by: sheepstache on August 18, 2015, 04:55:50 PM
I don't hate it. I just kind of don't get it.
Post by: NCGal on August 18, 2015, 06:45:00 PM
Egg nog
Live opera performances
A day at the beach (except for vacations)
Movies with subtitles
4th of July and New Year's Eve festivities
Post by: music lover on August 18, 2015, 06:51:55 PM
Our ancestors camped, and the reason we have modern conveniences is that they hated it and found ways to make life better. As one comedian said: "Why do I want to work all week for nice things and then on the weekend pretend that I'm homeless?"
Post by: Sailor Sam on August 18, 2015, 07:14:27 PM
Cheese.
I don't hate it. I just kind of don't get it.
Oh man, will you please for the love of mercy trade with me? I'm viciously allergic* to milk products, and I miss cheese soooo muuuuuch. I'll give all the good stuff my mom packed in my lunch, I swear. Just trade me your cheese indifference!
*Yes, allergic to the casein molecule. No, not intolerant of the lactose molecule. Holding strong with butter, tho. Mmmm, butter.
Post by: bloomability on August 18, 2015, 07:37:16 PM
I also don't like the show "Scrubs," and this makes me a monster around the people I know.
I don't like GoT or Breaking Bad or Girls, either.
I should not love Con Air, but I do.
Post by: sheepstache on August 18, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
Cheese.
I don't hate it. I just kind of don't get it.
Oh man, will you please for the love of mercy trade with me? I'm viciously allergic* to milk products, and I miss cheese soooo muuuuuch. I'll give all the good stuff my mom packed in my lunch, I swear. Just trade me your cheese indifference!
*Yes, allergic to the casein molecule. No, not intolerant of the lactose molecule. Holding strong with butter, tho. Mmmm, butter.
Sure. I'll throw in straight milk too.
Being told that I would invariably get osteoporosis unless I spent my adolescence choking down cheese, milk, and yogurt, made for a hard adolescence. Until my parents started buying me all the icecream I wanted. Because: health.
Post by: forummm on August 18, 2015, 08:11:56 PM
Concerts (among other reasons, the music is usually better on the recorded track).
Heh. I'm the exact opposite. I pretty much never listen to a studio album. I don't give a shit if you can perform in a studio. I want to hear you do it live. I want to hear how the music has changed over 6 months. I want to hear improvised solos that change every time they're played. Plus, the stage banter is way better. :)
The fact that sites like the Live Music Archive (http://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator) exist means that I'll never run out of cool shit to listen to.
I love the fact that some concerts will now send you mp3 recordings from the conert. In my experience this is only for bigger names, but I enjoy being able to revisit the actual concert I was at. Even better if you can find professional video footage of the concert.
I'm with forummm on this one - I hate live music. It's always too loud for me to enjoy comfortably, and concert environments are just not my cup of tea. I can count on one hand the number of concerts that I've actually enjoyed in my life.
At least you hate mayo, that vile disgusting shit. There's hope for you yet. Not sure about forummm though. Forummm, how do you feel about mayo? :)
I think it has its place. It's good in a dressing (say as part of chicken or tuna salad or as part of 1000 island dressing). And it can make a nice complement in certain sandwiches. But I only use it incredibly rarely.
For me, the concert hate is also that it costs as much as several weeks of food, you have to spend hours there and hours getting there and back, there are often smoking people around, and it's always too loud to enjoy. And the flashing lights can be irritating. I admit I'm a crotchety old man.
Post by: sheepstache on August 18, 2015, 08:13:49 PM
Post by: firewalker on August 18, 2015, 08:58:58 PM
Post by: Avolonte on August 18, 2015, 09:33:44 PM
Also, my daughter's elementary school teacher this year and 2 of the other 3 years. I hear things like, "Oh, she has Mrs. So-and-So? They're wonderful! I love them!" But I'm not feeling it.
Post by: Sailor Sam on August 18, 2015, 09:39:24 PM
Cheese.
I don't hate it. I just kind of don't get it.
Oh man, will you please for the love of mercy trade with me? I'm viciously allergic* to milk products, and I miss cheese soooo muuuuuch. I'll give all the good stuff my mom packed in my lunch, I swear. Just trade me your cheese indifference!
*Yes, allergic to the casein molecule. No, not intolerant of the lactose molecule. Holding strong with butter, tho. Mmmm, butter.
Sure. I'll throw in straight milk too.
Being told that I would invariably get osteoporosis unless I spent my adolescence choking down cheese, milk, and yogurt, made for a hard adolescence. Until my parents started buying me all the icecream I wanted. Because: health.
Generous! You're a prince amongst sheep.
Post by: Lyssa on August 19, 2015, 02:24:26 AM
Outdoor sports.
Shoes.
Weddings.
Nostalgia (looking at old pictures, videos, etc...).
Small talk.
Biking.
Star Wars.
Post by: MandalayVA on August 19, 2015, 03:41:14 AM
TV outside of sports, and I find I'm not even watching them too much outside of playoffs and hockey. Related to that, TV in public places as well. I always try to find a chair where I can't see it and read on my phone (I can tune out the sound).
Tattoos. I live in a neighborhood full of hipsters and see many poorly made life choices every day.
Most seafood. I'll eat crab and canned tuna, but that's it.
Basketball. Make the games two minutes long and I might be interested.
Post by: fb132 on August 19, 2015, 05:15:39 AM
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 19, 2015, 05:22:46 AM
it's an acid-oil emulsion bound with egg yolk. Whole egg sometimes, but yolk always.
Well, damn. I stand corrected. And that description just makes it sound so much more tempting, maybe I'll change my ways! Excuse me for a moment....(*gag*)
;)
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 19, 2015, 05:27:24 AM
Post by: fb132 on August 19, 2015, 05:32:36 AM
I'm gonna add pets to this list. It's not that I don't like animals. Animals are cool. But pets? No thank you. Too much trouble. Unlike children, they'll never grow up and move away, which is the best part about having children.But your stuck with children for a minimum of 18 years...a pet usually lives an average of 10-15 years (depending on the animal) and will cost you less long term than a child. Remember, with a child, you have to pay for the clothes, food, stuff and crap they want, school stuff, School tuition etc...A pet requires much less maintenance and cost much less than a child. Oh and pets don't throw fits or tantrums like children do. If you have a dog, they will be very obedient.
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 19, 2015, 05:47:00 AM
I'm gonna add pets to this list. It's not that I don't like animals. Animals are cool. But pets? No thank you. Too much trouble. Unlike children, they'll never grow up and move away, which is the best part about having children.But your stuck with children for a minimum of 18 years...a pet usually lives an average of 10-15 years (depending on the animal) and will cost you less long term than a child. Remember, with a child, you have to pay for the clothes, food, stuff and crap they want, school stuff, School tuition etc...A pet requires much less maintenance and cost much less than a child. Oh and pets don't throw fits or tantrums like children do. If you have a dog, they will be very obedient.
Yeah, that's why I list pets under things I should like, but don't. I just don't. But I do like kids. Well, my kids. Not yours.
Post by: GuitarStv on August 19, 2015, 05:51:02 AM
Post by: Rollin on August 19, 2015, 05:51:57 AM
Post by: GuitarStv on August 19, 2015, 05:55:43 AM
Whipped Cream.
The temperature differential between ice cream and whipped cream is so obvious to my senses that I feel like I am eating a warm turd.
I suppose if I had whipped cream on a hot chocolate I could tolerate it, but now the thought of warm turd is associated with whipped cream, so that's out.
Just use frozen cool whip. It's similar to whip cream, but has an awesome texture.
Post by: fb132 on August 19, 2015, 05:56:13 AM
I understand you not liking pets, I just don't understand your argument on pets vs children...btw I hate kids, that is why I countered your argument,lol.I'm gonna add pets to this list. It's not that I don't like animals. Animals are cool. But pets? No thank you. Too much trouble. Unlike children, they'll never grow up and move away, which is the best part about having children.But your stuck with children for a minimum of 18 years...a pet usually lives an average of 10-15 years (depending on the animal) and will cost you less long term than a child. Remember, with a child, you have to pay for the clothes, food, stuff and crap they want, school stuff, School tuition etc...A pet requires much less maintenance and cost much less than a child. Oh and pets don't throw fits or tantrums like children do. If you have a dog, they will be very obedient.
Yeah, that's why I list pets under things I should like, but don't. I just don't. But I do like kids. Well, my kids. Not yours.
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 19, 2015, 05:57:07 AM
If you're longing for the pitter patter of little feet, a pet is a more cost effective option. And you get more feet!
Cost-effectiveness, as well as any other logical arguments, shall not prevail. I've already taught my 3-year-old to do things a dog will never do. And I still have at least 9 more years that she'll still listen to me!
Post by: Rollin on August 19, 2015, 06:08:06 AM
Good coffee.
A friend works for a coffee importer, is master barista or something of the sort, and has been a judge at the world barista championships...so he knows his coffee. He made me a cup of what was rated as the best coffee in the world from 2014, from some small farm in Ecuador I think. Eh. Maybe I just don't know enough about coffee to truly appreciate it. It tasted way different than any coffee I had ever tasted, but I'd take my bulk costco brand house blend over it. Probably similar to how Bob W feels about craft beer, although I do love all sorts of craft beer and dislike the macros.
Re Amy Schumer...she can be hit or miss for me, but overall I'd say I like her. I recommend you checkout the episode that parodies Twelve angry men. She's not in it, but she wrote. I found it hilarious.
I like craft beer and drink it regularly. I like the taste and I like supporting local breweries. I also like the social aspects of the brew pubs and support them through purchase of their beer. Couldn't tell you much more than that, and oh maybe I could describe the color, but essentially I like the taste. Give me a Bud (or other similar) and I'd rather drink water.
Coffee - I have to agree with you. I make some Folgers and it really tastes good! Went to a local coffee house (again to support and socialize), but got a lecture on how great the $5 cup of coffee that was been made for me was so much better than the burnt tire coffee they sell at SBs. Hated to tell him that at least for me the cup of Folgers was better than his.
Post by: justajane on August 19, 2015, 06:13:25 AM
But then again, I can lock my cat in the basement or put a dog in a crate. You can't do that with kids, unless you want to get CPS involved. So I guess it's a wash.
Post by: Rollin on August 19, 2015, 06:18:04 AM
Dressing up. Whether it be a tuxedo or normal office attire I hate anything that isn't the most comfortable thing I could be wearing. I detest putting uncomfortable clothing on my body for purely social reasons.
One of the reasons to become FI and RE! That's my plan in a few months....
Post by: Rollin on August 19, 2015, 09:11:56 AM
Disney and Monte Python.
Was a chaperone last year at Disney for four days. All expenses paid. Asked again this year and said no (in my mind I said it with much more enthusiasm). I went in 1980 and it has not changed since then. Also, EPCOT was essentially a very hot, very crowded mall with food that cost 4-6 times more than it was worth.
Post by: iamlittlehedgehog on August 19, 2015, 09:16:49 AM
What's the difference between a bachelorette party and a bridal shower?
Painting with broad strokes: A bridal shower is a party in the afternoon, typically with female friends and relatives, at someone's house, where the attendees give the bride gifts. Often silly, irritating games are played, and supposedly hilarious sexual innuendos are peppered throughout the event.
A bachelorette party is the bride and her bridesmaids and possibly other women of that general age, absent mothers of the bride and groom. Generally, this happens in the evening, involves one or more bars, alcohol, and quite possibly vomiting and/or decisions one will likely regret later.
Pretty much Kris what said.
Bridal Shower - older women, ridiculous shower games (wedding dress out of TP), house gifts such as tupperware and towels.
Bachlorette Party - close friends, sex toys, lingerie, booze and strippers. The last "hurrah" as it were.
Post by: Shinplaster on August 19, 2015, 09:53:48 AM
And carrot cake anything, especially with cream cheese frosting. Blech!
Post by: GuitarStv on August 19, 2015, 09:55:40 AM
Don't get the appeal at all. It is just a kinda gross experience for all involved.
Post by: Torran on August 19, 2015, 09:59:56 AM
Also, weddings. I've really enjoyed some weddings I've been to, but there's just something about the whole ceremony that seems totally nuts to me. I get it in theory... but dressing up in clothes you would never normally wear (i.e to look like a princess in a ballgown) and then making lots of random things match (flowers, dresses for your girl friends, shoes, candles, other crap)... it just seems weird. And so shamelessly narcissistic.
I especially hate the stupid hipster crafty weddings where the flowers are actually conkers and ivy leaves, and the bride wears 'oyster' or 'sage green' or something, but it's still basically THE EXACT SAME THING as a normal wedding, just with added pretentiousness. Like they want a big fancy wedding but don't want to admit that they want a big fancy wedding.
Uuugh sorry. This is why I never get invited to nice things.
Post by: sheepstache on August 19, 2015, 11:41:09 AM
And because kayaking is so popular I can never rent a frikkin canoe.
Post by: ClassyCat on August 19, 2015, 12:36:12 PM
Frosting. On the few occasions where we might have cake or cupcakes, please don't put frosting on mine. It makes my teeth hurt.
And carrot cake anything, especially with cream cheese frosting. Blech!
Yes! Cake is something I usually avoid because of the frosting being so painful. If I ever have a small wedding reception, I just wanna have delicious brownies instead.
Post by: Disposaleer on August 19, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
Most children eventually potty train, but we've been scooping our cat's poop for the last 18 years. I can't tell you anything about the bowel movements of my seven year old, because that is his private domain now. Hurrah!
But then again, I can lock my cat in the basement or put a dog in a crate. You can't do that with kids, unless you want to get CPS involved. So I guess it's a wash.
We taught our cat to use the toilet and now have to flush the toilet daily. Much easier, no stink, and when we leave town we just have a neighbor come in, check the food and water, and flush the toilet. Plus we never have to buy litter or bags again! Mustachian win.
Post by: Telecaster on August 19, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Frosting. On the few occasions where we might have cake or cupcakes, please don't put frosting on mine. It makes my teeth hurt.
And carrot cake anything, especially with cream cheese frosting. Blech!
Yes! Cake is something I usually avoid because of the frosting being so painful. If I ever have a small wedding reception, I just wanna have delicious brownies instead.
The wife and I had pie at our wedding reception. Way better than cake.
Post by: Jakejake on August 19, 2015, 03:11:50 PM
Post by: Thegoblinchief on August 19, 2015, 04:16:34 PM
Frosting.
Weddings.
Other people's kids.
Post by: Goldielocks on August 19, 2015, 04:23:15 PM
The concept of living in the suburbs in a big house with a lawn you have to maintain.
The lawn is actually pretty easy compared to the weeding!
Funny, whenever someone says to "visualize your happy place" or "where do see yourself when retired?" I picture my bare feet in the grass - at MY house...(because grass at parks could be filled with nasty dog leavings, hypodermic needles, fertilizer overkill, or broken glass from someone's party last night = no bare feet!)
Hmmm... Everywhere I lived i have a memory-- Bare feet in snow (Calgary), bare feet on asphalt / sand (San Francisco), Bare feet in "gumbo" (AKA mud)- (Winnipeg), Bare feet in grass (Vancouver) -- I seem to want to live my home life in bare feet outside! Drives DH nuts.
Post by: JumpInTheFIRE on August 19, 2015, 05:11:42 PM
Cilantro
Work
Social Media
Social Anything
Movie Theaters
Disney Anything
Heavy makeup (we get it, you're afraid you'll be judged old/ugly, that doesn't mean you need to plaster 5 pounds of crap on your face)
People who think I want to hear every detail about their boring life. I guess this is pretty much the same as my dislike for social media
Posting to message boards (I lurk a ton but seldom post)
New Anything. Maybe it's from growing up poor, but for some reason I hate having new clothes/shoes/car/etc. I remember getting new shoes in the 2nd grade and scuffing them on the way to school so nobody would notice. It certainly helps with living a mustachian life but it seems like it is at odds with the majority.
Watching baseball. Their tagline should be "More boring than watching golf!"
The Big Bang Theory (It's not about nerds, it's about how "normals" think a stereotypical nerd would act. It's like nerd blackface)
I'm sure there's more but that's a good start!
Post by: forummm on August 19, 2015, 07:42:08 PM
Hummus.
Frosting.
Weddings.
Other people's kids.
With you on 2-4. (But are you supposed to actually like weddings--especially as a male? I thought they were just tolerated.)
Post by: FIRE me on August 19, 2015, 08:26:48 PM
I'll start.
People I really respect, and whose tastes typically run parallel to my own, tell me this woman is a comedic genius, f-ing hilarious, pushing social boundaries, etc. - so I *should* love her comedy, but...meh. I just don't.
The Matrix. I'm a life long Sci-Fi fan, but I've never been able to get past the opening scenes of that famous movie.
Post by: boy_bye on August 19, 2015, 08:29:33 PM
The Big Bang Theory (It's not about nerds, it's about how "normals" think a stereotypical nerd would act. It's like nerd blackface)
lol. my big brother (a proto-nerd who came up in the 70s) says the exact same thing.
Post by: NoraLenderbee on August 19, 2015, 11:02:28 PM
Crowds
Loud music
Meeting several new people at once. One at a time, please.
Kale
Smoothies
New-car smell (yech!)
Camping, specifically, cooking and cleaning up.
Having my hair cut. I can't stand being groomed by someone else.
You guys who hate cake frosting, I'd be happy to take it off your hands.
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 19, 2015, 11:10:25 PM
Multiple mentions of this one.
Isn't Kale supposed to be healthful and gross?
A lot of people like it now because the bar of expectation was set so low.
Post by: KittyCat on August 19, 2015, 11:50:38 PM
New Anything. Maybe it's from growing up poor, but for some reason I hate having new clothes/shoes/car/etc. I remember getting new shoes in the 2nd grade and scuffing them on the way to school so nobody would notice. It certainly helps with living a mustachian life but it seems like it is at odds with the majority.Oh wow, the second grade story is great!
The Matrix. I'm a life long Sci-Fi fan, but I've never been able to get past the opening scenes of that famous movie.I've never watched it in whole, much less remember the beginning, but what if you skipped the beginning? :)
Post by: mpcharles on August 20, 2015, 02:58:38 AM
A chinese disabled baby with an afro mother on a hot day... just the worst
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 20, 2015, 06:26:50 AM
Babies, anything from China, family, the disabled, mothers, afro-amer culture, the heat.
A chinese disabled baby with an afro mother on a hot day... just the worst
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/UXMM/not-sure-if-serious/image.jpg)
Post by: Cromacster on August 20, 2015, 06:30:26 AM
Babies, anything from China, family, the disabled, mothers, afro-amer culture, the heat.
A chinese disabled baby with an afro mother on a hot day... just the worst
Do you feel disdain every time you type on your computer/cellphone/tablet/electronic device, drive your car, or use anything electronic?
Post by: sheepstache on August 20, 2015, 07:26:33 AM
Post by: Basenji on August 20, 2015, 07:41:16 AM
Babies, anything from China, family, the disabled, mothers, afro-amer culture, the heat.
A chinese disabled baby with an afro mother on a hot day... just the worst
Do you feel disdain every time you type on your computer/cellphone/tablet/electronic device, drive your car, or use anything electronic?
I do. Disdain for me.
Post by: sleepyguy on August 20, 2015, 08:24:08 AM
- Hockey (HUGE here), don't play and hardly watch (unless company pays for seats), don't care
- Baseball, again same thing as hockey
- Skiing/Snowboarding, now i'm the rare guys who actually don't mind the winter (not extreme winters) but I don't care for either activities.
- TV, i get a glazed eye look when people talk about "popular" TV shows. I'm not immune to media... I'll watch Netflix and such but hardly ever any general TV "with commercials".
- Clubbing/nightlife, I'm pretty much over that age now (36) but can't stand it. Too loud, too expensive, too stupid.
- Social Media, never got into it, never will... funny I've had a career in IT my entire life.
Post by: pachnik on August 20, 2015, 08:43:56 AM
Shopping. To me, it is a necessary chore not a form of entertainment. Husband loves to shop though which works well for us.
Idiotic high-heeled shoes and your toes are all jammed in. Crazy.
Post by: crazyworld on August 20, 2015, 08:48:24 AM
Me too! I have sat and read a good book or had a conversation with another like-minded person, while others played games...Games. I have a friend who always wants to get together and play games. He likes Corn Hole, card games, settlers of catan, etc. I really can't stand playing games. I'd be plenty happy to just get together and shoot the sh*t over a beer or something but he's always needing this extra thing to play. Ugh. He's a poor conversationalist though so that might make sense.
Oh, man, you and me both. Ugh. Every time I'm with people and someone suggests playing a game... Instat panic reaction. Nooooo... Don't make me do it! I will happily sit at the same table and read a book while you guys play, but... Please do me a favor and count me out.
Post by: crazyworld on August 20, 2015, 08:51:39 AM
Post by: cerebus on August 20, 2015, 09:04:17 AM
Babies, anything from China, family, the disabled, mothers, afro-amer culture, the heat.
A chinese disabled baby with an afro mother on a hot day... just the worst
Nice to meet you Mr Kaczynski.
Post by: Welshrabbit on August 20, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
I do not like the lifestyle that comes with being a parent of young children. I love my kids, they are awesome little people and I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's.
HOWEVER...I do not like waking up early, I do not like having zero time to myself, I do not like the constant noise, and I do not like the complete lack of freedom that comes with the responsibility.
Alright...ready to be told how awful I am. Flame on!
Post by: Erica/NWEdible on August 20, 2015, 09:55:01 AM
I need to phrase this correctly otherwise I will come off as a monster:
I do not like the lifestyle that comes with being a parent of young children. I love my kids, they are awesome little people and I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's.
HOWEVER...I do not like waking up early, I do not like having zero time to myself, I do not like the constant noise, and I do not like the complete lack of freedom that comes with the responsibility.
Alright...ready to be told how awful I am. Flame on!
No one likes that part. No one thinks you should like that part. Everyone hates that part - you are not alone. Sleep deprivation, waking up in a pool of little kid pee, and being told "I'm hungry!" for the 97th time in 2 hours is flat out NOT fun, even if you generally love having children. I see no awfulness.
Post by: boy_bye on August 20, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
I need to phrase this correctly otherwise I will come off as a monster:
I do not like the lifestyle that comes with being a parent of young children. I love my kids, they are awesome little people and I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's.
HOWEVER...I do not like waking up early, I do not like having zero time to myself, I do not like the constant noise, and I do not like the complete lack of freedom that comes with the responsibility.
Alright...ready to be told how awful I am. Flame on!
you're not awful! you just described exactly the reason i never wanted to have kids! my dad and stepmom had little ones when i was in high school so i knew what it was about and just ... didn't want to do it.
i'm sure if i had kids i would love them and also dislike the lifestyle, just like you.
i hope you don't feel bad for just speaking the truth. you said it very diplomatically. :)
Post by: Trudie on August 20, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
Beer
Sushi
Coffee
Babies
With a few exceptions, Bruce Springsteen's music
Post by: Trudie on August 20, 2015, 10:02:09 AM
Concerts (among other reasons, the music is usually better on the recorded track).
Heh. I'm the exact opposite. I pretty much never listen to a studio album. I don't give a shit if you can perform in a studio. I want to hear you do it live. I want to hear how the music has changed over 6 months. I want to hear improvised solos that change every time they're played. Plus, the stage banter is way better. :)
The fact that sites like the Live Music Archive (http://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator) exist means that I'll never run out of cool shit to listen to.
Thanks for the archive! I'm a live music lover too. I dig stage banter. I think more emotion comes through the music -- even when it's not perfect. And I love to hear a crowd react.
Post by: Welshrabbit on August 20, 2015, 10:04:09 AM
I need to phrase this correctly otherwise I will come off as a monster:
I do not like the lifestyle that comes with being a parent of young children. I love my kids, they are awesome little people and I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's.
HOWEVER...I do not like waking up early, I do not like having zero time to myself, I do not like the constant noise, and I do not like the complete lack of freedom that comes with the responsibility.
Alright...ready to be told how awful I am. Flame on!
you're not awful! you just described exactly the reason i never wanted to have kids! my dad and stepmom had little ones when i was in high school so i knew what it was about and just ... didn't want to do it.
i'm sure if i had kids i would love them and also dislike the lifestyle, just like you.
i hope you don't feel bad for just speaking the truth. you said it very diplomatically. :)
Thanks madge, I appreciate it :) I really do love my kids with all my heart, I just had no idea parenting would be so damn difficult!
On a side note: I really applaud those of you who are self-aware enough to know that kids are not for you. I think too many people have kids because they think they are "supposed to" or get pressure from relatives to.
Post by: Zaga on August 20, 2015, 10:09:47 AM
Peanut butter
Bananas
Bacon
Hot Dogs
Anything else made from pig
Mixing meats on one sandwich or in one dish
Loud noises of any kind - in particular I hate being in loud places like bars or concerts, I even wear earplugs to vacuum
Apple pie
Running (WTF is up with this fad anyways?)
Listening to music in general - I prefer to listen to the world and to myself think
Beer of any kind, just yuck! (But really, try this one! How about no.)
Sit coms, pretty much all of them
Post by: MudDuck on August 20, 2015, 10:10:48 AM
Pumpkin Spice __________
Diamonds
Apple things (Macs, iPhone, the watch... why?)
Presents. Rarely something I actually wanted unless the person ordered it off my wish list, in which case I would probably like it better if I bought when I was ready. Also they usually make me feel more guilty than anything else. Especially if I wind up getting rid of it.
Yes! I hate to be given gifts and can totally relate to the guilt thing.
Post by: MudDuck on August 20, 2015, 10:24:33 AM
I should have liked being engaged/planning my wedding/being a princess or whatever. I was SO RELIVED to be done with it all. Thrilled I'm married, but I did not enjoy getting there. (I did have a bit of fun picking my dress though, so there you go. And I ACTUALLY enjoyed writing the ceremony with DH, so that was fine).
So much this. I HATED wedding planning. It was stressful and yet, somehow, mind-numbingly tedious all at the same time. And I had a fairly simple wedding. I don't feel that I can complain too much, though, because the actual day itself was super fun, and being married to my husband has been worth every second of aggravation. :)
For food: bananas, frozen mixed vegetables (my family claims that I'm "bizarre" for not liking them), and green peppers. I can taste those bad boys any way you prepare them and it's so hard not to spit out my food when I do.
Also, marijuana. Even the smell makes me want to gag, and the few times I've forced myself to get past that and actually try it were miserable. Paranoia with a side of boneless exhaustion followed by throwing up, anyone? Lovely.
I'll second marijuana and bananas! I want so badly to like bananas, considering how cheap and easy they are... but just no. I hate the smell, the texture, the taste... all of it.
Post by: Zaga on August 20, 2015, 10:25:03 AM
I am too, and I can't even have the butter. I love cheese so much, but haven't touched any for years, well not on purpose anyways. My butter substitute, which is actually really good, is the Earth Balance Soy Free, cause I'm also allergic to soy.Cheese.
I don't hate it. I just kind of don't get it.
Oh man, will you please for the love of mercy trade with me? I'm viciously allergic* to milk products, and I miss cheese soooo muuuuuch. I'll give all the good stuff my mom packed in my lunch, I swear. Just trade me your cheese indifference!
*Yes, allergic to the casein molecule. No, not intolerant of the lactose molecule. Holding strong with butter, tho. Mmmm, butter.
Post by: cjottawa on August 20, 2015, 10:30:14 AM
- Arrested Development. Clever, not funny. It's painful to watch.
- Acapella/Barbershop harmony. Nails. On. Chalkboard... to me. Seriously makes me ANGRY to hear. No idea why... it's Pavlovian. You want to watch my blood boil, do that shit in earshot of me.
- Watching sports. (with some exceptions, like the Olympics)
- Live Music. I like my headphones. I hate putting up with crowds of "fans." Maybe that's why I don't like watching sports.
- Booze. I'd rather just have a diet soda. An unopened bottle of rum has been in my fridge since I received it as a gift a year ago.
- Foreign travel.* Fuck. Travel. Where you are is somebody else's "awesome travel destination."
*Disclosure: lived in Europe for five years, have been to over two dozen countries - I'd still like to see Asia but I'll go live there for a year or three when I'm retired, not as an annoying itinerant westerner
http://www.amazon.ca/When-Wanderers-Cease-Roam-Travelers/dp/1596914610
Post by: ReadyToStash on August 20, 2015, 10:49:03 AM
Coffee.
Mama's home cooking.
And to keep with the theme, I despise Amy Schumer.
Post by: mpcharles on August 20, 2015, 11:12:22 AM
Finally people have been offended! We have a winner! Congratuations, mpcharles.I thought that was the point? Seriously noone dislikes babies?
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Post by: milesdividendmd on August 20, 2015, 11:28:45 AM
Post by: Hall11235 on August 20, 2015, 12:15:59 PM
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 20, 2015, 12:24:56 PM
The Beatles.
You really should like them. You are right.
(That's a great one.)
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 20, 2015, 12:56:43 PM
I need to phrase this correctly otherwise I will come off as a monster:
I do not like the lifestyle that comes with being a parent of young children. I love my kids, they are awesome little people and I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's.
HOWEVER...I do not like waking up early, I do not like having zero time to myself, I do not like the constant noise, and I do not like the complete lack of freedom that comes with the responsibility.
Alright...ready to be told how awful I am. Flame on!
No one likes that part. No one thinks you should like that part. Everyone hates that part - you are not alone. Sleep deprivation, waking up in a pool of little kid pee, and being told "I'm hungry!" for the 97th time in 2 hours is flat out NOT fun, even if you generally love having children. I see no awfulness.
Yeah, no kidding. The reason my wife and I have three kids so close in age (well, one is still a bun in the oven) is so we could get over the hard part as quickly as possible. No use dragging it out any more than necessary :)
Post by: Welshrabbit on August 20, 2015, 01:44:14 PM
I need to phrase this correctly otherwise I will come off as a monster:
I do not like the lifestyle that comes with being a parent of young children. I love my kids, they are awesome little people and I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's.
HOWEVER...I do not like waking up early, I do not like having zero time to myself, I do not like the constant noise, and I do not like the complete lack of freedom that comes with the responsibility.
Alright...ready to be told how awful I am. Flame on!
No one likes that part. No one thinks you should like that part. Everyone hates that part - you are not alone. Sleep deprivation, waking up in a pool of little kid pee, and being told "I'm hungry!" for the 97th time in 2 hours is flat out NOT fun, even if you generally love having children. I see no awfulness.
Yeah, no kidding. The reason my wife and I have three kids so close in age (well, one is still a bun in the oven) is so we could get over the hard part as quickly as possible. No use dragging it out any more than necessary :)
Thanks guys. I was feeling like a really crappy parent.
I hear ya about getting it over as quick as possible. My youngest just turned two and it's going to be time to go for three or go get snipped. You can guess which way I'm leaning...
Post by: Hall11235 on August 20, 2015, 01:52:20 PM
The Beatles.
You really should like them. You are right.
(That's a great one.)
Thanks. I have tried, I promise. But they just grate on me the wrong way.
Post by: kander on August 20, 2015, 02:00:31 PM
Post by: Eric on August 20, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
I'll second marijuana and bananas! I want so badly to like bananas, considering how cheap and easy they are... but just no. I hate the smell, the texture, the taste... all of it.
Maybe you just need to combine them? Of course, you'd probably end up dipping that banana in chocolate with sprinkles and gummy bears, but it'd be delicious anyway. Nomnomnom.
Post by: katesilvergirl on August 20, 2015, 02:41:41 PM
Wine
Liquor
Coffee
Tea
I do not enjoy the act or social setting of drinking things. I'm a snacker (I prefer my empty calories in a donut). Every single one of those liquids has a "culture" around it and so many people (my family, friends, and most strangers) are into one or all of those items that I am constantly struggling with feigning interest in everyday conversations. I hate the "let's go grab a coffee" or "let's go hang out at the bar" mentality of work/friends/everything because (#1) I hate coffee/alcohol, and (#2) I hate being in social situations that pressure me to or assume I will spend money on things I hate.
It is also frustrating to get pushback from people who "can't believe" I don't like coffee/tea/alcohol, ask me if I am pregnant if I refuse alcohol, or gift me fancy teas. I'M SORRY, I JUST DON'T LIKE IT. I am turning into a judgmental hard-headed person who will now not drink anything ever or buy drinks out because I've gotten my panties in a bunch, and who silently rolls her eyes and manipulatively changes the conversation whenever drink shop talk comes up.
Phew, that was really cathartic. Thanks thread!
Post by: dcheesi on August 20, 2015, 02:43:45 PM
Post by: KittyCat on August 20, 2015, 02:56:08 PM
BeerWOAH! I've finally found someone who thinks the same way about drinks/snacks that I do; rarely do I ever hear of someone else disliking tea, alcohol, and coffee! I absolutely refuse to pay for drinks of any kind, and usually choose water even when other options are available at no additional cost simply because I'd rather get my wasteful calories from snacks like donuts! I don't know about everyone else here with this situation, but I very quickly shoot down any notion that I will drink alcohol with them (or anything, really) very early on. Even to close friends, I'm like, "Hmm... Kitty doesn't drink -or- KittyCat doesn't like to spend money on drinks; let's meet up and do something else!" (btw, I'm one of those people who will refer to themselves in the third person). It's never been a problem for me, and I do not feel uncomfortable when I turn them down nor do others seem put off by it (at least, they're not showing it).
Wine
Liquor
Coffee
Tea
I do not enjoy the act or social setting of drinking things. I'm a snacker (I prefer my empty calories in a donut). Every single one of those liquids has a "culture" around it and so many people (my family, friends, and most strangers) are into one or all of those items that I am constantly struggling with feigning interest in everyday conversations. I hate the "let's go grab a coffee" or "let's go hang out at the bar" mentality of work/friends/everything because (#1) I hate coffee/alcohol, and (#2) I hate being in social situations that pressure me to or assume I will spend money on things I hate.
It is also frustrating to get pushback from people who "can't believe" I don't like coffee/tea/alcohol, ask me if I am pregnant if I refuse alcohol, or gift me fancy teas. I'M SORRY, I JUST DON'T LIKE IT. I am turning into a judgmental hard-headed person who will now not drink anything ever or buy drinks out because I've gotten my panties in a bunch, and who silently rolls her eyes and manipulatively changes the conversation whenever drink shop talk comes up.
Phew, that was really cathartic. Thanks thread!
Post by: Sailor Sam on August 20, 2015, 03:47:02 PM
Solidarity behind the anti-baby folks. I don't even particularity like the ones I'm related to, though I love them desperately.
I am too, and I can't even have the butter. I love cheese so much, but haven't touched any for years, well not on purpose anyways. My butter substitute, which is actually really good, is the Earth Balance Soy Free, cause I'm also allergic to soy.
Hey Zaga, nice to meetcha. Sad that you don't even get butter. My dairy thing kicked around age 30, and snuck up slow. I managed the symptoms for a couple years but then, once upon an otherwise lovely date evening the reaction kicked in so fast I kinda accidentally sort of vomitedonmygirlfriend'sshoes. And that was the end of cow/sheep/goat/gorilla juice products for me.
Liquid soy makes me feel off, but I can eat tofu. Have you discovered the Daiya brand of cheese substitute? It's great, but expensive. A treat, not a staple.
Post by: Zaga on August 20, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
Camping. I want to like it. I do. But I just don't, and camping can tell when I'm faking it.I've heard of it, but have so far resisted trying it out. Honestly I can live without cheese.
Solidarity behind the anti-baby folks. I don't even particularity like the ones I'm related to, though I love them desperately.I am too, and I can't even have the butter. I love cheese so much, but haven't touched any for years, well not on purpose anyways. My butter substitute, which is actually really good, is the Earth Balance Soy Free, cause I'm also allergic to soy.
Hey Zaga, nice to meetcha. Sad that you don't even get butter. My dairy thing kicked around age 30, and snuck up slow. I managed the symptoms for a couple years but then, once upon an otherwise lovely date evening the reaction kicked in so fast I kinda accidentally sort of vomitedonmygirlfriend'sshoes. And that was the end of cow/sheep/goat/gorilla juice products for me.
Liquid soy makes me feel off, but I can eat tofu. Have you discovered the Daiya brand of cheese substitute? It's great, but expensive. A treat, not a staple.
My allergy also creeped up on me around the same age. Sucked, but not having dairy or soy (I can do soybean oil and hydrolyzed soy protein, but that's it) means that I can do life and feel healthy, so it's worth it.
Silver lining? I often turn down restaurant invites, and it also makes it much easier to resist buying food out in general, cause I know my home cooked food won't try and kill me.
Post by: Jeremy E. on August 20, 2015, 04:13:45 PM
I agree, I don't like the beatles either. I love Zeppelin and The Who, bands from around the same era, but just can't stand the Beatles.The Beatles.
You really should like them. You are right.
(That's a great one.)
Thanks. I have tried, I promise. But they just grate on me the wrong way.
Post by: zoltani on August 20, 2015, 04:43:28 PM
As for me, I don't have anything I can add to this thread, I love everything. Or maybe I just don't dwell on this topic much, IDK.
Post by: Thegoblinchief on August 20, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
I think you can tell a lot about a person by their answer to this question: Do you prefer the beatles or the stones?
Drop them both in the ocean. I dislike them both equally.
Post by: zoltani on August 20, 2015, 05:03:56 PM
I think you can tell a lot about a person by their answer to this question: Do you prefer the beatles or the stones?
Drop them both in the ocean. I dislike them both equally.
Then you do not even exist in the world, don't cha know.
Post by: undercover on August 20, 2015, 05:16:33 PM
Nevertheless, I'll play:
Coffee
Most books
All sports
Concerts
Parties
Never once have I felt like I "should" like these things though - I just simply don't.
Post by: Emilyngh on August 20, 2015, 05:17:17 PM
I need to phrase this correctly otherwise I will come off as a monster:
I do not like the lifestyle that comes with being a parent of young children. I love my kids, they are awesome little people and I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's.
HOWEVER...I do not like waking up early, I do not like having zero time to myself, I do not like the constant noise, and I do not like the complete lack of freedom that comes with the responsibility.
Alright...ready to be told how awful I am. Flame on!
Nope, not awful. I've been home for much of the summer acting as a SAHP for my daughter and I'm super excited about her starting preschool, even though it means me going back to work (how very un-mastachian).
Post by: Emilyngh on August 20, 2015, 05:19:52 PM
I think you can tell a lot about a person by their answer to this question: Do you prefer the beatles or the stones?
I really don't like either. Although, I'm not sure if I can name more than 1 or 2 of each of their songs. Not sure what you could really tell about me from this.
Post by: zoltani on August 20, 2015, 05:31:13 PM
People that take themselves too seriously.
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 20, 2015, 05:54:09 PM
I think you can tell a lot about a person by their answer to this question: Do you prefer the beatles or the stones?
As for me, I don't have anything I can add to this thread, I love everything. Or maybe I just don't dwell on this topic much, IDK.
What's your theory Zoltani?
And does if rise to the level of law? If so, please share here!
http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/index.php?topic=42136
Post by: G-dog on August 20, 2015, 05:56:07 PM
I think you can tell a lot about a person by their answer to this question: Do you prefer the beatles or the stones?
As for me, I don't have anything I can add to this thread, I love everything. Or maybe I just don't dwell on this topic much, IDK.
What's your theory Zoltani?
And does if rise to the level of law? If so, please share here!
I think it is barely a hypothesis at this stage! Needs some serious experimental design work to properly test with any hope of statistical validity. ;)
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 20, 2015, 06:28:04 PM
I think you can tell a lot about a person by their answer to this question: Do you prefer the beatles or the stones?
As for me, I don't have anything I can add to this thread, I love everything. Or maybe I just don't dwell on this topic much, IDK.
What's your theory Zoltani?
And does if rise to the level of law? If so, please share here!
I think it is barely a hypothesis at this stage! Needs some serious experimental design work to properly test with any hope of statistical validity. ;)
Don't overestimate the standards of the attached journal!
Post by: dorothyc on August 20, 2015, 06:40:27 PM
- Shellfish - even looking at the discarded shells on someone else's plate grosses me out, although I like quite a few varieties of fin fish
- Feathers - I don't mind them in pillows and such, but I can't stand handling them
- Papaya - tastes quite nice sauteed in coconut oil and served over rice pudding, but to me it has a musky, sweaty smell when raw.
- Hot and cold or sweet and savory food served on the same plate
- Pineapple and kiwi - they burn my mouth
- Raw apples - they give me hiccups, though I can eat them cooked without any problem, like in apple crisp or apple pie
- Dill pickles - as a Brit I much prefer pickled onions or pickled red cabbage
- Ice cream
Post by: Dicey on August 20, 2015, 08:02:40 PM
Post by: Irishtache on August 21, 2015, 05:52:32 AM
Cabbage
Fish (but I can eat it)
Irish music/dancing
My sister-in-law
Exercise
Charlie Sheen
Post by: jzb11 on August 21, 2015, 05:57:01 AM
Wine - Don't like it
Coffee - Can't stand it either.
Post by: Hall11235 on August 21, 2015, 07:43:49 AM
The texture of office carpet. Even the thought of running my hands over it gives me goosebumps and a feeling of illness. Sort of an "Of Mice and Men" thing.
Post by: KMMK on August 21, 2015, 08:54:09 AM
Luckily it's possible to be vegetarian without tofu.
Post by: sheepstache on August 21, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
I don't like starch in general. I don't like (the non-sweet kind of) plantains, I loath cassava. This stuff feels like it's trying to climb down my throat, suffocate me, and suck all of the moisture out of my body.
Post by: Astatine on August 22, 2015, 05:05:49 AM
Craft or microbrewery beer. I want to like interesting beers, I like the idea of not supporting the Big Brand mainstream beers, but... I don't. I like boring mainstream beers like Carlton Draught.
Arrested Development. Firefly. Buffy. And a whole bunch of other shows that I find either tedious or I just don't get.
Mangoes. Luckily DH shares my hatred of this evil stinky fruit so it never comes in the house.
Live music. I prefer the studio version, and live music is always far far too loud (my theory is that the sound engineers have lost their hearing and turn the volume so they can hear it).
Retail therapy.
Watching movies at the cinema, watching DVDs. I just... don't. Either I find them boring, or too exciting and I get triggered.
Long conversations about movies and TV shows and actors etc. See previous dot point. I don't watch much, if any, fictional TV and it's been a few years since I last watched a movie.
Nice lingerie. Most of my female friends think this is an important way to spoil oneself but I find nice lingerie uncomfortable and usually itchy (stupid lace).
I'm sure there's heaps more but that's all that comes to mind right now.
Post by: firewalker on August 22, 2015, 07:01:36 AM
Post by: Goldielocks on August 23, 2015, 12:13:36 AM
Guinness
Cabbage
Fish (but I can eat it)
Irish music/dancing
My sister-in-law
Exercise
Charlie Sheen
You just sorta snuck in that sister in-law, didn't ya.
Post by: KittyCat on August 23, 2015, 02:16:06 AM
Mangoes. Luckily DH shares my hatred of this evil stinky fruit so it never comes in the house.Ahaha, that's my favorite fruit, and I love it as everything. Candy, ice cream, gelatin, the fruit, pudding, flavored pastries, etc... Mmmmmmm...
Post by: Astatine on August 23, 2015, 05:38:47 AM
Mangoes. Luckily DH shares my hatred of this evil stinky fruit so it never comes in the house.Ahaha, that's my favorite fruit, and I love it as everything. Candy, ice cream, gelatin, the fruit, pudding, flavored pastries, etc... Mmmmmmm...
To me it smells like a noxious chemical factory which just gets worse the riper the mango is. (a friend of mine whose mother had the same hatred of mangoes has a theory that a small percentage of people have a genetic something or rather that allows them to smell something noxious which everyone else is oblivious to)
Post by: 1967mama on August 23, 2015, 06:31:18 AM
But things I don't like:
Kale
Beer
Coffee (tried it once)
Hard liquor
Most jewelry (just wear a wedding ring and occasionally, small earrings (pierced)
High heels
Driving fast (esp as a passenger)
Makeup
Post by: minority_finance_mo on August 23, 2015, 06:41:04 AM
- Clubbing/nightlife, I'm pretty much over that age now (36) but can't stand it. Too loud, too expensive, too stupid.
- Social Media, never got into it, never will... funny I've had a career in IT my entire life.
#1 is a social screener for me. If you like clubbing, we probably have very little in common.
#2 Friends are vexed that I don't have social apps on my phone. I don't remember ever opening up FaceBook or Instagram and leaving the app happier than I was originally. No thanks!
If you're longing for the pitter patter of little feet, a pet is a more cost effective option. And you get more feet!
Cost-effectiveness, as well as any other logical arguments, shall not prevail. I've already taught my 3-year-old to do things a dog will never do. And I still have at least 9 more years that she'll still listen to me!
You, sir, an optimistic man with that forecast :)
Post by: sheepstache on August 23, 2015, 06:47:27 AM
Soup.
It's a constant feeling of confusion whether I'm supposed to be chewing or swallowing.
Post by: forummm on August 23, 2015, 07:44:19 AM
re: the recent thread on this:
Soup.
It's a constant feeling of confusion whether I'm supposed to be chewing or swallowing.
Never been a fan. If I want to eat something I'll eat actual food. If I want to drink something I'll drink actual water.
Post by: minority_finance_mo on August 23, 2015, 07:52:02 AM
It's usually not true, and the word "deserve" just sounds so self-congratulatory.
Post by: Gerard on August 23, 2015, 08:48:54 AM
Hoppy beer, "smart" TV shows, Doctor Who, fantasy, Beatles/Stones, "edgy" (=violent) films, Celtic music. And I get the same responses: "Oh, you just haven't tried the good stuff" or "you should give it another try." I get it. You love it. You find it hard to believe I don't. Trust me. I don't.
One I haven't seen so far: sushi. I don't dislike it. I'll even eat it. I just don't see the appeal. It's white rice with salt and sugar and vinegar and a little bit of something else. Its flavour and nutritional profile is that of a relish sandwich on white bread.
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 23, 2015, 08:51:20 AM
I just thought of another one. It irks me to my bones when someone says "you deserve ____".
It's usually not true, and the word "deserve" just sounds so self-congratulatory.
Ugh, yep. Akin to that is "treat yo self".
It's amazing how good people are at spending my money for me, haha.
Post by: GuitarStv on August 24, 2015, 09:44:39 AM
One I haven't seen so far: sushi. I don't dislike it. I'll even eat it. I just don't see the appeal. It's white rice with salt and sugar and vinegar and a little bit of something else. Its flavour and nutritional profile is that of a relish sandwich on white bread.
Sushi and sashimi is all about the wasabi. Mix enough wasabi in your little dish of soy sauce that the soy sauce turns from black to a little lighter than the colour of corrugated carboard. Then dip your stuff in that and eat. The sushi/sashimi is just a suitable textured delivery method for wasabi and soy sauce.
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 24, 2015, 09:46:15 AM
One I haven't seen so far: sushi. I don't dislike it. I'll even eat it. I just don't see the appeal. It's white rice with salt and sugar and vinegar and a little bit of something else. Its flavour and nutritional profile is that of a relish sandwich on white bread.
Sushi and sashimi is all about the wasabi. Mix enough wasabi in your little dish of soy sauce that the soy sauce turns from black to a little lighter than the colour of corrugated carboard. Then dip your stuff in that and eat. The sushi/sashimi is just a suitable textured delivery method for wasabi and soy sauce.
Cheapest way to do this: make tuna salad at home. Wrap in seaweed. Dip in soy sauce/wasabi. Boom, all the flavor, none of the cost.
Post by: GuitarStv on August 24, 2015, 10:00:33 AM
Post by: Sibley on August 24, 2015, 02:45:32 PM
Coffee
Chocolate
Dogs/puppies
Most desserts - cheesecake, mousse, pies, etc anything with that texture.
Coconut anything
Sports
Shopping
Cooking
Eating. I eat to live, I don't live to eat. A 3 hour meal is torture to me.
Post by: 1967mama on August 24, 2015, 04:24:43 PM
Post by: Helvegen on August 24, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
Jewelry
Napoleon Dynamite
Bananas, the actual fruit
Cilantro - best way to ruin a dish
Dogs
Weight training - I tried but I just can't stick with it. I'm a cardiobunny.
Doctor Who
Star Wars
Cars - I don't really care as long as it is manual and reliable.
Dry wine is Satan's piss
Smoothies
Post by: NewPerspective on August 24, 2015, 04:47:36 PM
I'm many of the things you might stereotypically associate with a "yogi", but eh, so boring.
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 24, 2015, 05:57:42 PM
Eating out 99% of the time.
Jewelry
Napoleon Dynamite
Bananas, the actual fruit
Cilantro - best way to ruin a dish
Dogs
Weight training - I tried but I just can't stick with it. I'm a cardiobunny.
Doctor Who
Star Wars
Cars - I don't really care as long as it is manual and reliable.
Dry wine is Satan's piss
Smoothies
I am your opposite. I love weight training, but I'm not a big cardio fan unless you count hiking.
Post by: firewalker on August 24, 2015, 06:08:24 PM
Post by: sheepstache on August 24, 2015, 06:55:10 PM
Eating. I eat to live, I don't live to eat.
Hahaha, yes.
Post by: boy_bye on August 24, 2015, 09:34:21 PM
Eating. I eat to live, I don't live to eat.
Hahaha, yes.
oh man, i wish i was like this.
when i have a shitty day, eating makes it better. and when i have a good day, eating makes that better, too!
eating is just awesome.
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 24, 2015, 10:03:19 PM
Eating. I eat to live, I don't live to eat.
Hahaha, yes.
oh man, i wish i was like this.
when i have a shitty day, eating makes it better. and when i have a good day, eating makes that better, too!
eating is just awesome.
I live to eat too. No question about it.
Post by: Basenji on August 25, 2015, 05:18:54 AM
Eating. I eat to live, I don't live to eat.
Hahaha, yes.
oh man, i wish i was like this.
when i have a shitty day, eating makes it better. and when i have a good day, eating makes that better, too!
eating is just awesome.
I live to eat too. No question about it.
Yep. Nomnomnom food.
Post by: Nancy on August 25, 2015, 08:54:36 AM
This is a weird one... Definitely not sure if I should "like" this:
The texture of office carpet. Even the thought of running my hands over it gives me goosebumps and a feeling of illness. Sort of an "Of Mice and Men" thing.
This genuinely made me laugh.
Post by: KittyCat on August 25, 2015, 10:38:12 AM
The two big ones that I usually keep to myself: 1) The American founding fathers. 2) The US Constitution. I hear fairly often that "[whatever some liberal/conservative is arguing for] is not what the founding fathers had in mind for this country". Who gives a shit? That was ~250 years ago. How do you even know what they wanted, and why should whatever they did want even matter? Similar arguments against the constitution. Rewrite the thing already. Another one is democracy. There is too much of it in this country. I think we'd really benefit if more public servants were appointed.Well, it sort of has- the amendments.
Post by: EricP on August 25, 2015, 10:52:20 AM
My addition to this list? Mayonnaise. Why the f*** does every f***ing sandwich I order come smothered with this disgusting s***? If I could go back in time and strangle the first f***er who decided that mixing an eggwhiteyolk with oil would result in anything other than an offensive gelatinous goop, I would do it right now.
In the spirit of "know thy enemy" it's an acid-oil emulsion bound with egg yolk. Whole egg sometimes, but yolk always.
I love real, homemade mayo. I'll take yours. :)Isn't Amy Schumer an admitted rapist? So it's probably a good thing you don't like her.Wait...wha? For real?
Well, she had sex with a guy who was "fucking wasted" (her words not mine), so I'd say yes.
Post by: ahoy on August 27, 2015, 02:06:59 AM
cell phones. Can't stand em, don't want one. Yes, I do realize I'm the last person on this planet without one, but I truly don't care...
Post by: MrsTaxi on August 27, 2015, 03:07:58 AM
Children- annoying little shits
unfinished wood *shudders*
Baby/bridal showers
camping
guns
Relatives
Mushrooms
Men with hairy backs- a little is ok
Post by: MsPeacock on August 28, 2015, 05:57:53 AM
Pickles
Beets
Raspberries
Pretty much all fruits and berries (there are a few exceptions)
Guns
Dr who
Watching television
Post by: forummm on August 28, 2015, 06:17:53 AM
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 28, 2015, 08:59:20 AM
When the stock market goes back up while I'm in the accumulation phase. The rebound didn't even give me time to get paid and buy! <shakes fist>
Common wisdom is that a young accumulator benefits from bear markets/undervaluation, so don't worry. You should feel this way.
Post by: Zikoris on August 28, 2015, 09:02:00 AM
When the stock market goes back up while I'm in the accumulation phase. The rebound didn't even give me time to get paid and buy! <shakes fist>
This! We missed out this round because we used our last paycheques to book our next two vacations, and there was nothing left for investing. Curses!
Post by: justajane on August 28, 2015, 10:49:44 AM
Men with hairy backs- a little is ok
Who says you should like those? The prevailing thing these days is hairless chests and backs. I would say you are very much on trend.
Post by: mom22boys on August 28, 2015, 11:27:18 AM
Tea - tastes like bad water
All alcohol - the great news is that I save a shit-load of money by not drinking
All tobacco - Yuck, just yuck (but maybe this doesn't fall into the 'things you should like' category)
Cats - I didn't shed a single tear when my ex's kitten got run over accidently on the farm (and no, I wasn't the one that did it)
Perfume/cologne - I feel a headache coming on just by writing the words
Squash
Cooked oatmeal - I like it in things like cookies, but hate oatmeal for breakfast. I've tried to mask it with so many things, but yeah, not so much.
Post by: forummm on August 28, 2015, 11:34:34 AM
When the stock market goes back up while I'm in the accumulation phase. The rebound didn't even give me time to get paid and buy! <shakes fist>
Common wisdom is that a young accumulator benefits from bear markets/undervaluation, so don't worry. You should feel this way.
I don't know how common that is. It's very counterintuitive to average (non MMM type) people. People get all panicky when the market drops even if they aren't retired.
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 28, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
When the stock market goes back up while I'm in the accumulation phase. The rebound didn't even give me time to get paid and buy! <shakes fist>
Common wisdom is that a young accumulator benefits from bear markets/undervaluation, so don't worry. You should feel this way.
I don't know how common that is. It's very counterintuitive to average (non MMM type) people. People get all panicky when the market drops even if they aren't retired.
Right, but your view is exactly what you "should like."
Post by: Kaikou on August 28, 2015, 12:49:43 PM
Huh, she makes me cry laughing. Especially this one: https://youtu.be/G9JmCHmH35k
If that one doesn't make you laugh, then yes, you def don't like her stuff
I'm not totally onboard with the idea that I "should" like stuff because tastes are so specific, but ok, I'll play. Stuff that I could potentially like based on some of my characteristics in common with people who do seem to like those things, but which actually leaves me cold:
Fantasy novels/movies/TV, elves, thrones, whatever. Yawn.
Festivals of any kind, music, medieval, burning effigies and such. No interest in large groups of people being conformistly nonconformist while camping.
Wine/beer tastings, I always want to smack people there
Okra--homegrown, doesn't matter, hate it
I chuckled a few. She is not funny. Paul guomotti (so?) Love him.
Post by: forummm on August 28, 2015, 01:01:30 PM
When the stock market goes back up while I'm in the accumulation phase. The rebound didn't even give me time to get paid and buy! <shakes fist>
Common wisdom is that a young accumulator benefits from bear markets/undervaluation, so don't worry. You should feel this way.
I don't know how common that is. It's very counterintuitive to average (non MMM type) people. People get all panicky when the market drops even if they aren't retired.
Right, but your view is exactly what you "should like."
"Should" is very subjective. I interpreted it to mean things that people generally like or would think you "should" like. People's opinions over whether someone "should" like beer or pretzels or oatmeal or chocolate or the smell of gasoline vary.
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 28, 2015, 01:15:44 PM
"used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone's actions."
It can also be used as a suggestion as in "you should eat more broccoli," but even if that were the way "should" was used in this instance, you still should be happy with bear markets as an accumulator.
I have never seen "should" defined as "what people generally like" and am surprised that you have.
Post by: forummm on August 28, 2015, 01:58:10 PM
Fair enough. I thought that "should" had a fairly specific meaning when used in this manner. Namely....
"used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone's actions."
It can also be used as a suggestion as in "you should eat more broccoli," but even if that were the way "should" was used in this instance, you still should be happy with bear markets as an accumulator.
I have never seen "should" defined as "what people generally like" and am surprised that you have.
Is there an "obligation, duty, or correctness" involved with liking Amy Schumer? Fantasy novels? Or Okra? These all seemed to be matters of opinion or things that some/many people liked but that the posters did not.
Post by: choppingwood on August 28, 2015, 02:35:12 PM
Fair enough. I thought that "should" had a fairly specific meaning when used in this manner. Namely....
"used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone's actions."
It can also be used as a suggestion as in "you should eat more broccoli," but even if that were the way "should" was used in this instance, you still should be happy with bear markets as an accumulator.
I have never seen "should" defined as "what people generally like" and am surprised that you have.
I think the first post of the thread explains what we are responding to. We are not using dictionary definitions here.
Is there an "obligation, duty, or correctness" involved with liking Amy Schumer? Fantasy novels? Or Okra? These all seemed to be matters of opinion or things that some/many people liked but that the posters did not.
Post by: Sailor Sam on August 28, 2015, 02:53:44 PM
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 28, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
Fair enough. I thought that "should" had a fairly specific meaning when used in this manner. Namely....
"used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone's actions."
It can also be used as a suggestion as in "you should eat more broccoli," but even if that were the way "should" was used in this instance, you still should be happy with bear markets as an accumulator.
I have never seen "should" defined as "what people generally like" and am surprised that you have.
I think the first post of the thread explains what we are responding to. We are not using dictionary definitions here.
Is there an "obligation, duty, or correctness" involved with liking Amy Schumer? Fantasy novels? Or Okra? These all seemed to be matters of opinion or things that some/many people liked but that the posters did not.
In my reading the OP felt she "should" like Amy Shumer because so many friends whom she respected with similar sensibilities and tastes liked Amy Shumer. This falls neatly under the "correctness" definition in my book.
If you disagree with the dictionary definition of "should" cited, feel free to provide an alternate definition that fits in with your understanding of the word.
Pointing out that others use "should" incorrectly is less than convincing.
Post by: choppingwood on August 28, 2015, 04:22:09 PM
By all evidence of my politics, peers, general tolerance for smut and shock - I should adore this comedian ... everyone's talking about....
So then my FB peeps tell me she has a TV show, and that's what I need to watch. ...
People I really respect, and whose tastes typically run parallel to my own, tell me this woman is a comedic genius, f-ing hilarious, pushing social boundaries, etc. - so I *should* love her comedy....
I thought Erica/NWEdible was clear about the kinds of things that made her feel that she "should" enjoy this comedian. I think we have all been responding accordingly by naming the things we feel we "should" like, for whatever reason. I generally like oatmeal in other contexts, I generally like food that is good for me, I would like to enjoy oatmeal, my friends like oatmeal for breakfast, so I think I "should" like oatmeal. It is a fun thread and doesn't need to overanalyzed.
Post by: forummm on August 28, 2015, 04:46:52 PM
Fair enough. I thought that "should" had a fairly specific meaning when used in this manner. Namely....
"used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone's actions."
It can also be used as a suggestion as in "you should eat more broccoli," but even if that were the way "should" was used in this instance, you still should be happy with bear markets as an accumulator.
I have never seen "should" defined as "what people generally like" and am surprised that you have.
I think the first post of the thread explains what we are responding to. We are not using dictionary definitions here.
Is there an "obligation, duty, or correctness" involved with liking Amy Schumer? Fantasy novels? Or Okra? These all seemed to be matters of opinion or things that some/many people liked but that the posters did not.
In my reading the OP felt she "should" like Amy Shumer because so many friends whom she respected with similar sensibilities and tastes liked Amy Shumer. This falls neatly under the "correctness" definition in my book.
If you disagree with the dictionary definition of "should" cited, feel free to provide an alternate definition that fits in with your understanding of the word.
Pointing out that others use "should" incorrectly is less than convincing.
I "should" like it when the market goes up like that because it means my NW increases by as much as 6 months of my after tax salary. But I got upset instead.
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 28, 2015, 05:00:52 PM
Got it?
Post by: KittyCat on August 28, 2015, 05:14:07 PM
Post by: Zaga on August 28, 2015, 06:57:17 PM
I don't.... Guys, I just don't like bathing. The process. And being wet while drying off. And having to stand on the bathmats. And when the shower curtain touches me. Ugh.I hate having wet hair. Especially when going to bed or heading off to work, and as previously stated I hate loud noises of any kind so a hair dryer is just not an option. Besides, my hair is super fine and the hair dryer damages it very easily.
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 28, 2015, 08:22:19 PM
I don't.... Guys, I just don't like bathing. The process. And being wet while drying off. And having to stand on the bathmats. And when the shower curtain touches me. Ugh.I hate having wet hair. Especially when going to bed or heading off to work, and as previously stated I hate loud noises of any kind so a hair dryer is just not an option. Besides, my hair is super fine and the hair dryer damages it very easily.
Currently have wet hair. Hate having wet hair. I just have too much of it.
Post by: pbkmaine on August 28, 2015, 08:28:57 PM
Kale
Strawberries
Chocolate Ice Cream
Beer
Peaches
Oysters
Post by: HappierAtHome on August 28, 2015, 08:30:12 PM
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 28, 2015, 08:38:55 PM
The Dalai Lama. Friends send me his quotes / "wisdom" all the time. I find him incredibly arrogant. This is not a popular opinion.
I don't agree, but I love this one. Juicy!
Post by: Cressida on August 28, 2015, 11:08:16 PM
Huh, she makes me cry laughing. Especially this one: https://youtu.be/G9JmCHmH35k
If that one doesn't make you laugh, then yes, you def don't like her stuff
Chuckle at god saying, "I need to stop making so many white girls."
Otherwise - nada.
Finally got around to checking her out and started with this link. I laughed exactly once in exactly that place. Oh well, we all like different things.
Post by: sheepstache on August 29, 2015, 06:54:07 AM
Fair enough. I thought that "should" had a fairly specific meaning when used in this manner. Namely....
"used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone's actions."
It can also be used as a suggestion as in "you should eat more broccoli," but even if that were the way "should" was used in this instance, you still should be happy with bear markets as an accumulator.
I have never seen "should" defined as "what people generally like" and am surprised that you have.
I think the first post of the thread explains what we are responding to. We are not using dictionary definitions here.
Is there an "obligation, duty, or correctness" involved with liking Amy Schumer? Fantasy novels? Or Okra? These all seemed to be matters of opinion or things that some/many people liked but that the posters did not.
In my reading the OP felt she "should" like Amy Shumer because so many friends whom she respected with similar sensibilities and tastes liked Amy Shumer. This falls neatly under the "correctness" definition in my book.
If you disagree with the dictionary definition of "should" cited, feel free to provide an alternate definition that fits in with your understanding of the word.
Pointing out that others use "should" incorrectly is less than convincing.
You mean like the SECOND FUCKING DEFINITION about something being probable?
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 29, 2015, 11:14:18 AM
Fair enough. I thought that "should" had a fairly specific meaning when used in this manner. Namely....
"used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone's actions."
It can also be used as a suggestion as in "you should eat more broccoli," but even if that were the way "should" was used in this instance, you still should be happy with bear markets as an accumulator.
I have never seen "should" defined as "what people generally like" and am surprised that you have.
I think the first post of the thread explains what we are responding to. We are not using dictionary definitions here.
Is there an "obligation, duty, or correctness" involved with liking Amy Schumer? Fantasy novels? Or Okra? These all seemed to be matters of opinion or things that some/many people liked but that the posters did not.
In my reading the OP felt she "should" like Amy Shumer because so many friends whom she respected with similar sensibilities and tastes liked Amy Shumer. This falls neatly under the "correctness" definition in my book.
If you disagree with the dictionary definition of "should" cited, feel free to provide an alternate definition that fits in with your understanding of the word.
Pointing out that others use "should" incorrectly is less than convincing.
You mean like the SECOND FUCKING DEFINITION about something being probable?
I have no idea what point you are trying to make here, that definition has nothing to do with the way Forummm used "should".
And a second stylistic point all caps and needless cursing adjectives tend to make an author appear unintelligent and unhinged.
Post by: sheepstache on August 29, 2015, 05:30:17 PM
Fair enough. I thought that "should" had a fairly specific meaning when used in this manner. Namely....
"used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness, typically when criticizing someone's actions."
It can also be used as a suggestion as in "you should eat more broccoli," but even if that were the way "should" was used in this instance, you still should be happy with bear markets as an accumulator.
I have never seen "should" defined as "what people generally like" and am surprised that you have.
I think the first post of the thread explains what we are responding to. We are not using dictionary definitions here.
Is there an "obligation, duty, or correctness" involved with liking Amy Schumer? Fantasy novels? Or Okra? These all seemed to be matters of opinion or things that some/many people liked but that the posters did not.
In my reading the OP felt she "should" like Amy Shumer because so many friends whom she respected with similar sensibilities and tastes liked Amy Shumer. This falls neatly under the "correctness" definition in my book.
If you disagree with the dictionary definition of "should" cited, feel free to provide an alternate definition that fits in with your understanding of the word.
Pointing out that others use "should" incorrectly is less than convincing.
You mean like the SECOND FUCKING DEFINITION about something being probable?
I have no idea what point you are trying to make here, that definition has nothing to do with the way Forummm used "should".
And a second stylistic point all caps and needless cursing adjectives tend to make an author appear unintelligent and unhinged.
It's probable that people like things that their friends like. What the OP wrote:
"By all evidence of my politics, peers, general tolerance for smut and shock - I should adore this comedian Amy Schumer everyone's talking about."
^This is clearly not the "correctness" definition. She's not saying she has a duty to like Amy Schumer, just that it seems likely she would. And again:
"People I really respect, and whose tastes typically run parallel to my own, tell me this woman is a comedic genius, f-ing hilarious, pushing social boundaries, etc. - so I *should* love her comedy"
"correctness" definition: Things that shouldn't bother me because it would be pedantic: People ignoring all but the first definition of a word to make the case that someone is using it wrong.
"likely" definition: Things that should bother me because I am in fact pedantic: People ignoring all but the first definition of a word to make the case that someone is using it wrong.
As for forummm's post, if x applies to most people it's a fair use of the word "should" to say that it should apply to a given person. E.g., "As someone of Irish descent, you shouldn't tan well, but you do." Most people are happy when the market goes back up, forummm is not. While his opinion is correct, it is not the generally expected view. So you could say he should or shouldn't feel that way depending on which definition you're using, but it's pretty obvious which he means given the context of a thread full of people saying things like "I don't like chocolate" which they should because fucking everybody loves chocolate it's magical.
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 29, 2015, 06:04:24 PM
You are making points that I have already made about the OP's (correct) use of "should," as opposed to Forummm's incorrect use.
Post by: HappierAtHome on August 29, 2015, 06:07:22 PM
Running. I feel like I should LOVE it, especially when runners talk about the high and the freedom.
Instead, it's just horrible.
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 29, 2015, 06:09:11 PM
Post by: HappierAtHome on August 29, 2015, 06:10:57 PM
Knitting. In my hipster millenial city, I really should love knitting. But tiny crafts just make me lose my patience usually. I don't have the hand-eye coordination I think.
Me too! I can't make it work at all. Crochet, on the other hand, I find easy and enjoyable.
Post by: Bracken_Joy on August 29, 2015, 06:31:46 PM
Knitting. In my hipster millenial city, I really should love knitting. But tiny crafts just make me lose my patience usually. I don't have the hand-eye coordination I think.
I will expand this to crafting in general, I think. Scrapbooking party? No thanks.
Post by: sheepstache on August 29, 2015, 07:23:09 PM
You are making points that I have already made about the OP's (correct) use of "should,"You mean...the part where I blatantly said your interpretation of the OP's usage was off?
Someone else mentioned that they should like chocolate. Unless you think there's some "correctness" of why they ought to like chocolate, it's clearly just because chocolate is something people generally like. You wanted a definition that would cover "what people generally like", I gave the dictionary definition of "used to indicate what is probable."
I think maybe you are arguing based on the fact that forummm identified himself as being an accumulator, that is, a group that should (correctly and as expected) like it when the market is down. Fair enough. But obviously, in the context of this thread, and from his first response to you, he was talking about the fact that the common opinion among the general population is that it's good when it goes up and counterintuitive to dislike it. If you want to keep claiming that he was wrong because his first phrasing could be interpreted differently even though he's cleared up what he meant, then I guess I must bow out and hand over the Crotchety Pedant crown to you for now.
Post by: brooklynguy on August 29, 2015, 07:59:06 PM
If you want to keep claiming that he was wrong because his first phrasing could be interpreted differently even though he's cleared up what he meant, then I guess I must bow out and hand over the Crotchety Pedant crown to you for now.
Hate to break it to you but the good doctor had a lock on that crown from the moment he instigated this asinine debate.
Post by: choppingwood on August 29, 2015, 08:51:25 PM
If you want to keep claiming that he was wrong because his first phrasing could be interpreted differently even though he's cleared up what he meant, then I guess I must bow out and hand over the Crotchety Pedant crown to you for now.
Hate to break it to you but the good doctor had a lock on that crown from the moment he instigated this asinine debate.
And how do you feel about crafting.
Post by: Cathy on August 29, 2015, 08:52:19 PM
Miles isn't exactly wrong about "should" being related to duty, because it's a conjugation of "shall". However, "should" is the conditional form and so "I should do X" doesn't mean that I have a duty to do X; it means that the duty for me to do X exists if and only if some unstated condition is satisfied. The condition can be explicitly stated, but in this topic we can infer that the condition is basically "if I were similar to other persons".
As Fowler puts it, "[w]e do not ordinarily issue commands to ourselves", although if we wanted to, the traditionally correct way is "I shall", not "I should". The difference between "I will" and "I shall" is that "I will" is a statement of my current will (it means "it is my will"); whereas "I shall" means I am ordering myself to do something that is not otherwise willed by me. "I should" is different from either and expresses a conditionally contemplated duty, possibly without the condition being explicitly stated.
When Gandalf said "you shall not pass", he was not making a prediction about whether the Balrog would be able to pass; rather, he was ordering the Balrog not to attempt to pass. If Gandalf had said "you should not pass", he would have been issuing a conditional command to the Balrog, essentially saying "if you know what's good for you, do not attempt to pass". If Gandalf had said that, "you will not pass", he would be expressing a wish that the Balrog not pass, or alternatively, he would be making a prediction that the Balrog would in fact not pass.
Approximately no one follows these traditional rules anymore (not even me), but it's still useful to understand them. In present-day English, these words have kind of all blurred together and the speaker's intent just has to be inferred from the context.
Post by: sheepstache on August 29, 2015, 08:53:25 PM
If you want to keep claiming that he was wrong because his first phrasing could be interpreted differently even though he's cleared up what he meant, then I guess I must bow out and hand over the Crotchety Pedant crown to you for now.
Hate to break it to you but the good doctor had a lock on that crown from the moment he instigated this asinine debate.
Well damn it, now I have to hand over the pithy remarks crown to you.
Post by: Astatine on August 29, 2015, 09:39:53 PM
Running. I feel like I should LOVE it, especially when runners talk about the high and the freedom.
Instead, it's just horrible.
Luckily my current social circles of anti-exercise nerds totally agree with me that hard exercise just hurts and makes you feel nauseous (I strongly suspect that the so-called runner's high only occurs for a small subsection for the population and the rest of us have brains/bodies that are wired differently). But in a former life, for some reason one of my main social circles were all exercise freaks. As in, ultra-long distance runners or cyclists (eg races that last one or more days). Ugh. So. Many. Boring. Conversations. I do *not* care about bikes enough to discuss them for hours at a time. <3 my anti-exercise nerds (well, most of us exercise to some degree but it's more because we should for health reasons, not because any of us actually enjoy it).
Post by: lauren_knows on August 31, 2015, 09:57:07 AM
Post by: golden1 on August 31, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
1) Eggs: I want to like them because they are a cheap inexpensive source of protein. I try them every few years and blech. Disgusting.
2) Sports: This one is rough. I live near Boston which is like sports town central. It is all everyone at work talks about. I lived in fear that my kids would take up a sport and I would be forced to attend games. Luckily, although I had them try several things, nothing stuck. They are music/art nerds like me.
3) Jerry Seinfeld: I find him creepy. He doesn't blink enough. His voice annoys me. I found his presence my least favorite part of the TV show.
4) Concerts or other crowded gatherings: I would rather stay home and listen to music.
5) Shows that everyone else likes: Big Bang Theory, Walking Dead, Breaking Bad. BB was okay, but it just seemed to drag on and on. I tried watching it, quit in the middle of season 2, and then watched the finale and felt like I didn't miss anything.
6) Anime: My husband and daughter are obsessed with Anime. It seems like something I should like, but I just can't get into it.
7) Most girly fashions: I think high heeled shoes are ridiculous. Skirts are uncomfortable and restrict your movement. Same with super long finger nails. Why are so many women's fashions designed to hobble them?
8) Weddings and funerals: Take me to the JP and throw my ashes in the ocean.
Post by: G-dog on August 31, 2015, 12:30:03 PM
7) Most girly fashions: I think high heeled shoes are ridiculous. Skirts are uncomfortable and restrict your movement. Same with super long finger nails. Why are so many women's fashions designed to hobble them?
I think you really answered your own question....
Post by: milesdividendmd on August 31, 2015, 12:39:16 PM
7) Most girly fashions: I think high heeled shoes are ridiculous. Skirts are uncomfortable and restrict your movement. Same with super long finger nails. Why are so many women's fashions designed to hobble them?
I think you really answered your own question....
100% agree. Nothing hotter than limited mobility.
Post by: lauren_knows on August 31, 2015, 12:40:36 PM
7) Most girly fashions: I think high heeled shoes are ridiculous. Skirts are uncomfortable and restrict your movement. Same with super long finger nails. Why are so many women's fashions designed to hobble them?
I don't know... as a very sweaty dude, I've often dreamed of the freedom of a skirt during the hot hot summers at the office when I'm wearing long pants and long-sleeved shirts. Just sayin'.
Post by: G-dog on August 31, 2015, 12:43:53 PM
7) Most girly fashions: I think high heeled shoes are ridiculous. Skirts are uncomfortable and restrict your movement. Same with super long finger nails. Why are so many women's fashions designed to hobble them?
I don't know... as a very sweaty dude, I've often dreamed of the freedom of a skirt during the hot hot summers at the office when I'm wearing long pants and long-sleeved shirts. Just sayin'.
Kilts! Some skirts physically restrict your movement, others functionally restrict your movement or you risk overexposure...
Post by: Kaspian on August 31, 2015, 12:46:42 PM
That said, I do like:
Bare feet, bathing suits, beer, pancakes/waffles, and the Monkees.
Go figure. ...People don't make sense.
Post by: KMMK on August 31, 2015, 12:55:07 PM
7) Most girly fashions: I think high heeled shoes are ridiculous. Skirts are uncomfortable and restrict your movement. Same with super long finger nails. Why are so many women's fashions designed to hobble them?
I don't know... as a very sweaty dude, I've often dreamed of the freedom of a skirt during the hot hot summers at the office when I'm wearing long pants and long-sleeved shirts. Just sayin'.
I don't think it's fair that women can wear pants but men can't wear skirts. Seriously. As long as men are given a hard time about things that are considered traditionally "womanly" we won't have full equality. Basically it's okay for women to do/wear manly things, cause "men are better". But the reverse is not acceptable. /rant
But off my soapbox, I actually have been enjoying wearing skirts more, but not the restrictive ones. They are nice in the summer.
Post by: Lizzy B. on August 31, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
Back on topic, anyone?
Running. I feel like I should LOVE it, especially when runners talk about the high and the freedom.
Instead, it's just horrible.
I totally hear you on the running thing. I used to be a cross-country runner in high school and college. Now, without a coach or team members to talk with, I hate it. So much boring, so much pain. I should like it, but just can't.
Another one for me is opera. I played/play classically and love symphonies and musicals, but every time I see an opera, I just get frustrated at how long it takes a character to sing a simple line of dialogue. Good thing opera tickets aren't exactly mustachian. :-)
Also dark chocolate. I know it's better for me than milk, has less sugar and more chocolate goodness, but I just taste bitter.
Post by: choppingwood on August 31, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
I don't think it's fair that women can wear pants but men can't wear skirts. Seriously. As long as men are given a hard time about things that are considered traditionally "womanly" we won't have full equality. Basically it's okay for women to do/wear manly things, cause "men are better". But the reverse is not acceptable. /rant
Saw a man in Edmonton this week wearing a kilt and a T-shirt that said No Peeking.
Post by: G-dog on August 31, 2015, 02:39:57 PM
I don't think it's fair that women can wear pants but men can't wear skirts. Seriously. As long as men are given a hard time about things that are considered traditionally "womanly" we won't have full equality. Basically it's okay for women to do/wear manly things, cause "men are better". But the reverse is not acceptable. /rant
Saw a man in Edmonton this week wearing a kilt and a T-shirt that said No Peeking.
Hilarious! No photo?
Apparently men in skirts show up on the catwalks. I think this is 2012, but happened again in 2015 -
[url]http://www.gq.com/gallery/fashion-week-spring-2012-trends-mens-skirts[url]
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on August 31, 2015, 03:10:19 PM
Post by: pbkmaine on August 31, 2015, 03:50:11 PM
Post by: KittyCat on August 31, 2015, 04:36:47 PM
Gosh, what would US traditional attire look like? Bib overalls? Jeans and cowboy boots? NFL jerseys?Talking strictly perceived stereotypes- anything with an American flag on it (bonus points if it's obnoxious), 'cuz 'Murrca ;)
Post by: KMMK on August 31, 2015, 07:02:33 PM
Gosh, what would US traditional attire look like? Bib overalls? Jeans and cowboy boots? NFL jerseys?Talking strictly perceived stereotypes- anything with an American flag on it (bonus points if it's obnoxious), 'cuz 'Murrca ;)
OMG, that's so true. That plus college shirts. We had some big international soccer thing this summer (can you tell I don't follow sports at all?) and there were all these American tourists wandering around one of our touristy attractions, and there was so much red/white/blue attire. And shirts with Minnesota or some US college. I don't go to the US and wear a maple leaf or a Manitoba shirt. I figure the Canadian super-pale complexion is enough.
Post by: Jakejake on August 31, 2015, 07:22:52 PM
Post by: GuitarStv on September 01, 2015, 05:54:03 AM
Gosh, what would US traditional attire look like? Bib overalls? Jeans and cowboy boots? NFL jerseys?Talking strictly perceived stereotypes- anything with an American flag on it (bonus points if it's obnoxious), 'cuz 'Murrca ;)
OMG, that's so true. That plus college shirts. We had some big international soccer thing this summer (can you tell I don't follow sports at all?) and there were all these American tourists wandering around one of our touristy attractions, and there was so much red/white/blue attire. And shirts with Minnesota or some US college. I don't go to the US and wear a maple leaf or a Manitoba shirt. I figure the Canadian super-pale complexion is enough.
A healthy Canadian should emit a distinctly bright glow under proper lighting. :P
Post by: plainjane on September 01, 2015, 06:26:14 AM
A healthy Canadian should emit a distinctly bright glow under proper lighting. :P
I know you probably didn't mean it this way, but I'm going to call you on it because sometimes being confronted leads to learning about the hidden assumptions in our own minds. Right now you're implying that only white people can be Canadian.
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on September 01, 2015, 06:27:15 AM
Gosh, what would US traditional attire look like? Bib overalls? Jeans and cowboy boots? NFL jerseys?
Well, I'm from the South, so I wore a seersucker coat and a pink tie. The Norwegian wedding attire was pretty posh, though:
(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11695816_10155947313125624_7178812901502831798_n.jpg?oh=96cf2c9e3293af0111a41b6e9d4501b8&oe=5635ECCB)
Post by: GuitarStv on September 01, 2015, 06:49:51 AM
A healthy Canadian should emit a distinctly bright glow under proper lighting. :P
I know you probably didn't mean it this way, but I'm going to call you on it because sometimes being confronted leads to learning about the hidden assumptions in our own minds. Right now you're implying that only white people can be Canadian.
At worst it was implying that black people can't be healthy Canadians. I've seen pallid Indian, Chinese, Latin, and Aboriginal people. That said, I will apologize for anyone offended by my purity of pastiness doctrine, and will attempt to deride all the races of Canada equally henceforth.
Post by: Kris on September 01, 2015, 07:08:24 AM
Knitting. In my hipster millenial city, I really should love knitting. But tiny crafts just make me lose my patience usually. I don't have the hand-eye coordination I think.
I will expand this to crafting in general, I think. Scrapbooking party? No thanks.
Oh, holy shit, am I with you there. Every time I hear someone talk about scrapbooking, it takes all I have in me not to audibly snort in disdain.
Post by: justajane on September 01, 2015, 08:38:36 AM
Knitting. In my hipster millenial city, I really should love knitting. But tiny crafts just make me lose my patience usually. I don't have the hand-eye coordination I think.
I will expand this to crafting in general, I think. Scrapbooking party? No thanks.
Oh, holy shit, am I with you there. Every time I hear someone talk about scrapbooking, it takes all I have in me not to audibly snort in disdain.
Do people even scrapbook anymore? Its heyday seemed to be in the 1990s. What was the company? Something like Creative Memories? I haven't heard of them for a while. I remembered being invited to scrapbooking parties.
Now all the MLMs are more about essential oils, nail wraps, etc.
Funny story - I was just invited to an ADULT COLORING PARTY. Apparently that's the new thing. And, no, it's not about coloring bodies or anything salacious. It's just a bunch of adults drinking wine and coloring. $10 entrance fee. No, thanks. I'll color at home with my kids for free.
Post by: Forcus on September 01, 2015, 08:54:30 AM
Post by: Chris22 on September 01, 2015, 09:23:17 AM
I love the thought of camping but in execution it has not been a fun experience.
With you 100%. Love being outside, love doing stuff outside, but when I'm done, I want to go inside, take a shower if needed, and sleep in my nice bed at an agreeable temperature. I also find there's a big case of "okay, now what?" with camping. You go to a site, you set up the tent, you get your gear out, and then...? I can sit and drink beer and cook over fire and enjoy a campfire on my patio using my charcoal grill and firepit, I don't need to sleep outside in a tent to enjoy those things.
Post by: EricP on September 01, 2015, 09:56:49 AM
Knitting. In my hipster millenial city, I really should love knitting. But tiny crafts just make me lose my patience usually. I don't have the hand-eye coordination I think.
I will expand this to crafting in general, I think. Scrapbooking party? No thanks.
Oh, holy shit, am I with you there. Every time I hear someone talk about scrapbooking, it takes all I have in me not to audibly snort in disdain.
Do people even scrapbook anymore? Its heyday seemed to be in the 1990s. What was the company? Something like Creative Memories? I haven't heard of them for a while. I remembered being invited to scrapbooking parties.
Now all the MLMs are more about essential oils, nail wraps, etc.
Funny story - I was just invited to an ADULT COLORING PARTY. Apparently that's the new thing. And, no, it's not about coloring bodies or anything salacious. It's just a bunch of adults drinking wine and coloring. $10 entrance fee. No, thanks. I'll color at home with my kids for free.
Coloring party? I went to a painting event like that where we had a professional teach us to paint a mountainscape and I thought it was fun enough, but coloring, like with Crayons?
Post by: Bracken_Joy on September 01, 2015, 10:04:12 AM
Knitting. In my hipster millenial city, I really should love knitting. But tiny crafts just make me lose my patience usually. I don't have the hand-eye coordination I think.
I will expand this to crafting in general, I think. Scrapbooking party? No thanks.
Oh, holy shit, am I with you there. Every time I hear someone talk about scrapbooking, it takes all I have in me not to audibly snort in disdain.
Do people even scrapbook anymore? Its heyday seemed to be in the 1990s. What was the company? Something like Creative Memories? I haven't heard of them for a while. I remembered being invited to scrapbooking parties.
Now all the MLMs are more about essential oils, nail wraps, etc.
Funny story - I was just invited to an ADULT COLORING PARTY. Apparently that's the new thing. And, no, it's not about coloring bodies or anything salacious. It's just a bunch of adults drinking wine and coloring. $10 entrance fee. No, thanks. I'll color at home with my kids for free.
Coloring party? I went to a painting event like that where we had a professional teach us to paint a mountainscape and I thought it was fun enough, but coloring, like with Crayons?
I think the idea is to do like madalas and stuff. A study got really popular that showed that the same parts of the brain are active and you get the same effects as meditation when you do mandala coloring. Since people don't actually like meditating, but love the idea of it, it's really taken off =P
Post by: KMMK on September 01, 2015, 10:21:16 AM
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on September 01, 2015, 10:37:11 AM
Knitting. In my hipster millenial city, I really should love knitting. But tiny crafts just make me lose my patience usually. I don't have the hand-eye coordination I think.
I will expand this to crafting in general, I think. Scrapbooking party? No thanks.
Oh, holy shit, am I with you there. Every time I hear someone talk about scrapbooking, it takes all I have in me not to audibly snort in disdain.
Do people even scrapbook anymore? Its heyday seemed to be in the 1990s. What was the company? Something like Creative Memories? I haven't heard of them for a while. I remembered being invited to scrapbooking parties.
Now all the MLMs are more about essential oils, nail wraps, etc.
Funny story - I was just invited to an ADULT COLORING PARTY. Apparently that's the new thing. And, no, it's not about coloring bodies or anything salacious. It's just a bunch of adults drinking wine and coloring. $10 entrance fee. No, thanks. I'll color at home with my kids for free.
Coloring party? I went to a painting event like that where we had a professional teach us to paint a mountainscape and I thought it was fun enough, but coloring, like with Crayons?
I think the idea is to do like madalas and stuff. A study got really popular that showed that the same parts of the brain are active and you get the same effects as meditation when you do mandala coloring. Since people don't actually like meditating, but love the idea of it, it's really taken off =P
I've been tempted by the adult coloring books that are for sale these days. It looks enjoyable to me. I like coloring my kids' coloring books, but they don't like it when I color their books :)
Post by: justajane on September 01, 2015, 03:24:39 PM
Gardening. We just bought a compost bin in an effort to reduce our landfill contributions but now I have to figure out what to do with the resulting compost since I don't really want to start a garden (flowers or food).
Just spread it on your lawn.
Post by: PFHC on September 01, 2015, 03:43:44 PM
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Post by: milesdividendmd on September 01, 2015, 04:30:11 PM
Football and all pro sports, hamburgers, hot dogs, beer, loud music, all TV, history books, gas powered toys, hunting, fried food, and the economics of modern medicine.
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This is a shocking list (except for TV.) Good job.
I'm now intrigued to know what you do like?
Post by: justajane on September 01, 2015, 04:42:06 PM
We live in a townhouse so we don't really have a lawn. We get 8 feet out from the building to do what we want but the HOA covers lawncare and I'm not sure how the guy would feel about me spreading around fresh compostGardening. We just bought a compost bin in an effort to reduce our landfill contributions but now I have to figure out what to do with the resulting compost since I don't really want to start a garden (flowers or food).
Just spread it on your lawn.
If you spread fully broken down compost out right before a rain, it will just be absorbed by the ground. He wouldn't even notice it.
Alternately, do you ever walk in a park? Just throw it there. I can't imagine you produce that much compost that you couldn't contain it in a small bucket once in a while and dispose of it that way. Or conversely give it to a friend who does garden. If your friends had a sense of humor, you could put a bow on it and give it to them for Christmas.
Post by: Bracken_Joy on September 01, 2015, 06:31:29 PM
Gardening. We just bought a compost bin in an effort to reduce our landfill contributions but now I have to figure out what to do with the resulting compost since I don't really want to start a garden (flowers or food).
Bonus! Frugal hustle. Make it good and sell it! Or gift it to the gardeners in your life so you don't need to buy them something else.
Use of used free starbucks coffee grounds highly encouraged =)
Post by: Zaga on September 01, 2015, 07:34:19 PM
Post by: justajane on September 01, 2015, 07:39:14 PM
Post by: PFHC on September 01, 2015, 09:45:23 PM
My wife, my kids, strenuous labor, reading, classical music, wrestling, swimming, messing about in my boat, cooking, bonfires, popping a wicked wheelie, tinkering, playing legos with my son and daughter, the vistas on the open ocean, impromptu dance parties, meditating with my wife or alone, arguments, getting unplanned shit-faced and dancing my face off, bourbon on ice, baked chicken, green smoothies, high school football and basketball (if I know a player), pick-up basketball, making shit out of wood, playing murderball with my brothers, our house, our town, my family, travelling, road trips, foosball, doing pull-ups, sex, marriage, snuggling with my whole family while the sun comes up over the trees and shines directly into my eyes, talking to old people with lots of stories, telling stories, hearing new jokes, sea stories, kimchi, learning a new skill, getting better at an old skill, proficiency, efficiency, understanding people, listening, seeing my children grow into people I like to be around, a dumb movie, a smart movie, thunderstorms, cold-as-fuck weather, the fall, apple season, making 13 gallons of apple sauce in 6 hours on a homemade processing station that cost zero bucks, 50 Cents "In Da Club", bluegrass music, wearing a tank top in the hot ass summer, flip flops, eating food you made over a fire outside, movie night in the tent no matter the weather, having a goal, working towards it, dreams, good god, dreams, when I saw my first flying fish, when my dad used to make these awesome riddles for our Christmas gifts and build up this huge suspense and the gift would be the most utterly amazing thing ever, my dad and his loving way, my mom and her passion and fire, passion, calm, quiet, thinking about shit for days, the path to FI, and on and on, man.Football and all pro sports, hamburgers, hot dogs, beer, loud music, all TV, history books, gas powered toys, hunting, fried food, and the economics of modern medicine.
This is a shocking list (except for TV.) Good job.
I'm now intrigued to know what you do like?
Holy shit, that's a big question to ask. :)
Post by: milesdividendmd on September 01, 2015, 10:47:28 PM
My wife, my kids, strenuous labor, reading, classical music, wrestling, swimming, messing about in my boat, cooking, bonfires, popping a wicked wheelie, tinkering, playing legos with my son and daughter, the vistas on the open ocean, impromptu dance parties, meditating with my wife or alone, arguments, getting unplanned shit-faced and dancing my face off, bourbon on ice, baked chicken, green smoothies, high school football and basketball (if I know a player), pick-up basketball, making shit out of wood, playing murderball with my brothers, our house, our town, my family, travelling, road trips, foosball, doing pull-ups, sex, marriage, snuggling with my whole family while the sun comes up over the trees and shines directly into my eyes, talking to old people with lots of stories, telling stories, hearing new jokes, sea stories, kimchi, learning a new skill, getting better at an old skill, proficiency, efficiency, understanding people, listening, seeing my children grow into people I like to be around, a dumb movie, a smart movie, thunderstorms, cold-as-fuck weather, the fall, apple season, making 13 gallons of apple sauce in 6 hours on a homemade processing station that cost zero bucks, 50 Cents "In Da Club", bluegrass music, wearing a tank top in the hot ass summer, flip flops, eating food you made over a fire outside, movie night in the tent no matter the weather, having a goal, working towards it, dreams, good god, dreams, when I saw my first flying fish, when my dad used to make these awesome riddles for our Christmas gifts and build up this huge suspense and the gift would be the most utterly amazing thing ever, my dad and his loving way, my mom and her passion and fire, passion, calm, quiet, thinking about shit for days, the path to FI, and on and on, man.Football and all pro sports, hamburgers, hot dogs, beer, loud music, all TV, history books, gas powered toys, hunting, fried food, and the economics of modern medicine.
This is a shocking list (except for TV.) Good job.
I'm now intrigued to know what you do like?
Holy shit, that's a big question to ask. :)
Ok. I get it. You're another thirty something corporate slave who need to consume stuff to entertain yourself.
Kidding. Great stuff!
Post by: pbkmaine on September 02, 2015, 04:33:00 AM
Post by: PFHC on September 02, 2015, 06:08:55 AM
Love that list.Thanks. :)
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Post by: CabinetGuy on September 02, 2015, 06:17:03 AM
Love that list.Thanks. :)
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Agreed, great list. Will you be my friend? Need more people like you out there in my life!
Post by: PFHC on September 02, 2015, 06:40:13 AM
Of course. :)Love that list.Thanks. :)
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Agreed, great list. Will you be my friend? Need more people like you out there in my life!
If you find yourself in Maine, PM me.
Post by: cautiouspessimist on September 02, 2015, 10:26:09 AM
Post by: PFHC on September 02, 2015, 03:30:04 PM
Nonfiction books. Blech.Try A Voyage for Madmen. Reads like fiction it's such a wild story.
Post by: iknowiyam on September 02, 2015, 04:14:41 PM
Yup. +1I hate onions too... I really dislike liars and try not to lie when possible, but I can't tell you how many times I've told people I'm allergic to onions... LOL. I get so many strange looks when I spend 5-10 minutes looking for onions and picking them out of a dish before I eat it. People will say, "you can't even taste them". However if that were true, I'm fairly certain people wouldn't use them so religiously.Onions. Oh, how much easier eating at restaurants/other people's houses/potlucks would be if I could stand the taste of onions. They're in everything, which means everyone except me likes them, right?
I HATE onions and you are right they are in EVERYTHING. I meticulously read descriptions of everything I buy and today they still ended up in my lunch. :-(
But, yeah, apparently it's just the two of us :-)
I can tolerate trace cooked onion, but raw or in large bites... bleh!
Post by: 1967mama on September 02, 2015, 04:43:54 PM
I might read a classic such as Jane Eyre or Pride and Prejudice once a year but its very rare for me to read a novel.
Post by: cerebus on September 03, 2015, 12:36:11 AM
Yup. +1I hate onions too... I really dislike liars and try not to lie when possible, but I can't tell you how many times I've told people I'm allergic to onions... LOL. I get so many strange looks when I spend 5-10 minutes looking for onions and picking them out of a dish before I eat it. People will say, "you can't even taste them". However if that were true, I'm fairly certain people wouldn't use them so religiously.Onions. Oh, how much easier eating at restaurants/other people's houses/potlucks would be if I could stand the taste of onions. They're in everything, which means everyone except me likes them, right?
I HATE onions and you are right they are in EVERYTHING. I meticulously read descriptions of everything I buy and today they still ended up in my lunch. :-(
But, yeah, apparently it's just the two of us :-)
I can tolerate trace cooked onion, but raw or in large bites... bleh!
I love onions and use enormous amounts of onion and garlic in my cooking. All kinds of onion too - yellow, red, green, chive, pearl, pickling, scallions, shallots, leeks, spring... mmmmmm
Post by: michaelrecycles on September 03, 2015, 01:28:41 AM
Post by: CabinetGuy on September 03, 2015, 04:20:06 AM
Perfect! We're thinking about moving back to MA (not happy about it, but the SO is missing her kids,)Of course. :)Love that list.Thanks. :)
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Agreed, great list. Will you be my friend? Need more people like you out there in my life!
If you find yourself in Maine, PM me.
Will look you up if/when that happens!
Post by: Astatine on September 03, 2015, 04:43:04 AM
Post by: Philociraptor on September 03, 2015, 07:40:06 AM
The Doors
I'm all for an open-door policy, but to not like doors at all? Sheesh.
Post by: cerebus on September 03, 2015, 08:25:45 AM
The Doors
I'm all for an open-door policy, but to not like doors at all? Sheesh.
He did use the definite article, so he was probably referring to his own house when he said that. I sympathise, I too have some pretty ugly doors.
Post by: cjottawa on September 03, 2015, 10:47:23 AM
Fiction! Bleh! Haha!
I might read a classic such as Jane Eyre or Pride and Prejudice once a year but its very rare for me to read a novel.
YES to this.
I read a tonne of non-fiction. I have limited time. I'd rather spend it reading about stuff that actually happened. The world is filled with intriguing, inspirational stories.
I do enjoy film and TV fiction. (Walking Dead, anything space related...)
Post by: abiteveryday on September 03, 2015, 11:04:59 AM
I think you can tell a lot about a person by their answer to this question: Do you prefer the beatles or the stones?
As for me, I don't have anything I can add to this thread, I love everything. Or maybe I just don't dwell on this topic much, IDK.
I think the Beatles are "fine", and can mostly take or leave the Stones EXCEPT! that Gimme Shelter is musical genius. I heard something a while back where someone had separated all the tracks and slowly recombined them. It was true synergy, much much greater than the sum of its parts.
Post by: RunHappy on September 03, 2015, 11:09:38 AM
I love to workout, run, and cycle. Everyone tells me that I should start doing triathlons (because I run and cycle), but I really hate swimming. I love the idea of the physical benefits of swimming, but dislike the actual practice of swimming.
Post by: abiteveryday on September 03, 2015, 11:23:29 AM
IPAs. I like many other beers, but not these.
Game of Thrones (the tv show). I read the books, thought they were alright, but the show is just needlessly gratuitous. I'm not against nudity and violence per se, but it often doesn't really further the plot.
The Silmarillion. I loved LOTR. I even read and enjoyed all the appendices to Return of the King. But I just CANNOT read this one. It's like reading an almanac of nonsense.
Post by: stlbrah on September 03, 2015, 11:58:59 AM
Post by: Freckles on September 07, 2015, 02:35:47 AM
Beer
Sunny days
Gardening (sorry Erica! I tried to like it, but no.)
Camping
Sports
Classical music
Post by: C. K. on September 07, 2015, 03:46:30 AM
Good coffee.
A friend works for a coffee importer, is master barista or something of the sort, and has been a judge at the world barista championships...so he knows his coffee. He made me a cup of what was rated as the best coffee in the world from 2014, from some small farm in Ecuador I think. Eh. Maybe I just don't know enough about coffee to truly appreciate it. It tasted way different than any coffee I had ever tasted, but I'd take my bulk costco brand house blend over it. Probably similar to how Bob W feels about craft beer, although I do love all sorts of craft beer and dislike the macros.
Careful. Your friend will have you drinking "cat" scat next. Yes, it's a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak
(And if he does, tell me how it tastes.)
Post by: michaelrecycles on September 07, 2015, 06:57:18 PM
The Doors
I'm all for an open-door policy, but to not like doors at all? Sheesh.
He did use the definite article, so he was probably referring to his own house when he said that. I sympathise, I too have some pretty ugly doors.
Thank you for your understanding.
Post by: Rural on September 07, 2015, 08:11:21 PM
Now, I still hate eggs, but if my mother ever offers me any? Totally eating and will give no sign of the disgust. But she remembers; it was traumatic for us both.
Hard boiled is tolerable, as is fried rice if it's spiced enough you can't taste the eggy nastiness.
Post by: Goldielocks on September 08, 2015, 01:59:27 AM
A healthy Canadian should emit a distinctly bright glow under proper lighting. :P
I know you probably didn't mean it this way, but I'm going to call you on it because sometimes being confronted leads to learning about the hidden assumptions in our own minds. Right now you're implying that only white people can be Canadian.
Not because we sweat in the heat?
Post by: Lizzy B. on September 08, 2015, 08:03:36 AM
The Silmarillion. I loved LOTR. I even read and enjoyed all the appendices to Return of the King. But I just CANNOT read this one. It's like reading an almanac of nonsense.
Yeah, I almost listed this too. I've started it three or four times, and even got about half way through it one trip when I hadn't brought anything else to read. Bookmark hasn't moved in years, and probably never will
Post by: GuitarStv on September 08, 2015, 08:05:42 AM
The Silmarillion. I loved LOTR. I even read and enjoyed all the appendices to Return of the King. But I just CANNOT read this one. It's like reading an almanac of nonsense.
Yeah, I almost listed this too. I've started it three or four times, and even got about half way through it one trip when I hadn't brought anything else to read. Bookmark hasn't moved in years, and probably never will
Big +1.
I love a lot of the stuff Tolkien did, but that was a brutally boring slog.
Post by: Kitsune on September 08, 2015, 08:32:47 AM
Post by: G-dog on September 08, 2015, 08:55:40 AM
PEOPLE. Give me a cabin in the woods with my immediate family and an internet connection, and I'd happily never see anyone face-to-face ever again (or at least for a few months). Crowded spaces full of strangers make me want to punch people until I can see an escape route. (Obviously, I don't really like sports spectatorship, large concerts, etc.)
I dislike crowds too. State fairs, warehouse stores on crowded days, etc.
Certain events gphave a focus, so can be tolerated, like a football game, but fighting the crowds for travel, parking, getting to the seat, accessing a bathroom, etc. irritates me. More unstructured events like fairs and the like are worse, just too random and chaotic. In general, traffic doesn't bother me, since we are all going the same way.
I suspect it may be somewhat of a sensory overload for me.
Post by: Kitsune on September 08, 2015, 09:38:55 AM
PEOPLE. Give me a cabin in the woods with my immediate family and an internet connection, and I'd happily never see anyone face-to-face ever again (or at least for a few months). Crowded spaces full of strangers make me want to punch people until I can see an escape route. (Obviously, I don't really like sports spectatorship, large concerts, etc.)
I dislike crowds too. State fairs, warehouse stores on crowded days, etc.
Certain events gphave a focus, so can be tolerated, like a football game, but fighting the crowds for travel, parking, getting to the seat, accessing a bathroom, etc. irritates me. More unstructured events like fairs and the like are worse, just too random and chaotic. In general, traffic doesn't bother me, since we are all going the same way.
I suspect it may be somewhat of a sensory overload for me.
Oh, man, you're right - what I hate about sports (hockey, in my case -I'm Canadian) isn't so much the game itself as it is the traffic and crowds getting to and from the game. (Also the price of the tickets. I will go if I'm offered free tickets, but I will NOT pay 150$+ to go to a 2-hours sports game. Nope.)
State (or county) fairs are the exception for me - where we are, it's crowded but there's always a decent line of sight, so I never feel like I'm surrounded and can't get out. Plus there are cows. Cows are calming, for some reason. (Gawd, you'd think I was an 80-year-old farmer, the way I describe this...)
Post by: 1967mama on September 08, 2015, 11:20:10 AM
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on September 08, 2015, 11:33:48 AM
Coffee. I only drink tea. I tried coffee once and didn't like it. I do like the smell of brewing coffee, but don't like coffee flavoured anything: cheesecake, chocolate bars, brownies. Ewwww!
The problem is that you only tried it once. I had to drink coffee at least a dozen times before I found it tolerable. Now it's one of the best simple joys that I have. Like beer, a taste for coffee is one that must be cultivated intentionally.
Post by: 1967mama on September 08, 2015, 11:56:12 AM
Post by: abiteveryday on September 08, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Coffee. I only drink tea. I tried coffee once and didn't like it. I do like the smell of brewing coffee, but don't like coffee flavoured anything: cheesecake, chocolate bars, brownies. Ewwww!
The problem is that you only tried it once. I had to drink coffee at least a dozen times before I found it tolerable. Now it's one of the best simple joys that I have. Like beer, a taste for coffee is one that must be cultivated intentionally.
I thought I'd never drink coffee. Got through college, had a kid, still no coffee. Then I went back to grad school while working full time, and had a second kid. I'm drinking it every morning. Sometimes it's just a delivery method for caffeine, but once you are hooked you are hooked.
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on September 08, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
And that one time I tried coffee was in 1983! haha! Maybe I should give it another chance? Nawww ... I love tea and have a great stash. Plus, people give me tea gifts because they know how much I love it. Just this week I received a tea steeper in the shape of a heart from a friend who had been in Sweden and a tin of my favourite loose tea from my son's girlfriend!
That's cool. I'm not suggesting that you should give coffee another chance - only that your experience is pretty typical for a first-time coffee drinker. I would posit that the majority of coffee lovers didn't like it the first time they tried it. Unless they first tried it stuffed with buttloads of sugar and cream.
Post by: cerebus on September 08, 2015, 01:13:16 PM
And that one time I tried coffee was in 1983! haha! Maybe I should give it another chance? Nawww ... I love tea and have a great stash. Plus, people give me tea gifts because they know how much I love it. Just this week I received a tea steeper in the shape of a heart from a friend who had been in Sweden and a tin of my favourite loose tea from my son's girlfriend!
Coffee can vary in quality almost infinitely. If you want to try it, do yourself a service and go to a proper barista. I have begun to cut down on coffee because I realized that I do myself a great injustice by drinking it indiscriminately, especially the slop they serve at my office.
Post by: Chris22 on September 08, 2015, 02:17:03 PM
Post by: 1967mama on September 08, 2015, 02:22:31 PM
Post by: abiteveryday on September 08, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Anything fantasy-based, like LOTR, Harry Potter, wizards and dragons movies, etc. It's just all goofy and silly and stupid and juvenile. I like my action movies and novels at least a little believable, I'm more of a James Bond/Tom Clancy/Bourne trilogy fan. The more recent Batman trilogy is about as far-fetched as I can go.
I like a lot of that stuff, but can accept that. For me it is zombies. I can suspend disbelief for wizards and elves, but with the undead I immediately just think "that's not real. This is dumb."
Post by: Bracken_Joy on September 08, 2015, 03:15:27 PM
Anything fantasy-based, like LOTR, Harry Potter, wizards and dragons movies, etc. It's just all goofy and silly and stupid and juvenile. I like my action movies and novels at least a little believable, I'm more of a James Bond/Tom Clancy/Bourne trilogy fan. The more recent Batman trilogy is about as far-fetched as I can go.
I like a lot of that stuff, but can accept that. For me it is zombies. I can suspend disbelief for wizards and elves, but with the undead I immediately just think "that's not real. This is dumb."
I'm fine with Wizards, Elves, and Zombies. I can't do vampires or werewolves though.
Post by: GuitarStv on September 09, 2015, 07:33:10 AM
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on September 09, 2015, 07:39:05 AM
Anything fantasy-based, like LOTR, Harry Potter, wizards and dragons movies, etc. It's just all goofy and silly and stupid and juvenile. I like my action movies and novels at least a little believable, I'm more of a James Bond/Tom Clancy/Bourne trilogy fan. The more recent Batman trilogy is about as far-fetched as I can go.
I actually prefer my fiction to be unabashedly unbelievable. James Bond pisses me off, because it's supposed to be believable, but the shit the he pulls off is just completely absurd. It completely ruins my suspension of disbelief. I did like the Bourne movies (never read the books, though). But because LOTR and Harry Potter starts out with the very premise of a very different and very magical world, I have no trouble suspending disbelief and becoming completely engrossed in story. Different strokes.
Post by: cautiouspessimist on September 09, 2015, 09:28:47 AM
Anything fantasy-based, like LOTR, Harry Potter, wizards and dragons movies, etc. It's just all goofy and silly and stupid and juvenile. I like my action movies and novels at least a little believable, I'm more of a James Bond/Tom Clancy/Bourne trilogy fan. The more recent Batman trilogy is about as far-fetched as I can go.
I actually prefer my fiction to be unabashedly unbelievable. James Bond pisses me off, because it's supposed to be believable, but the shit the he pulls off is just completely absurd. It completely ruins my suspension of disbelief. I did like the Bourne movies (never read the books, though). But because LOTR and Harry Potter starts out with the very premise of a very different and very magical world, I have no trouble suspending disbelief and becoming completely engrossed in story. Different strokes.
Exactly. It would be much easier to believe that Bond is able to escape impossible scenarios/kill all the bad guys/etc if he's a wizard. A regular guy, even highly trained? Pshht, never happen.
Post by: RetiredAt63 on September 13, 2015, 09:06:19 AM
- Hockey is actually fun if you are at a game (doesn't have to be NHL), but on TV? Nope.
- Baseball - Les Glorieux got sold down the river, not for me any more. Jarry Park was a fun way to spend a summer afternoon, but the hype for professional baseball is ridiculous.
- Skiing - cross-country is fun (and relatively Mustachian if you are close to trails), the rest just give you injuries.
- I actually like to watch soccer, but none near me, so not happening.
- Social media - don't see the point. Most of my friends are not involved either, so there is no incentive.
Also:
- Beer - never liked the flavour, and now that my digestive system has decided it doesn't like grains, it is just as well.
- Straight Scotch (especially single malts)- went to a tasting once and the "better" they were, the less I liked them.
- Big Bang Theory - I also thought it was a take on what non-Science people think nerds/geeks/people who love their discipline with passion are like. I will always be a biologist, and a friend of mine will always be a geologist, we are not defined by our job titles. I recently met someone whose girlfriend calls him a nerd (and he is now saying it) because he is passionate about his studies - he is in law and he loves torts. Nerds/Geeks of the world arise, we need to recover our labels ;-)
As a Canadian we're 'supposed' to like...
- Hockey (HUGE here), don't play and hardly watch (unless company pays for seats), don't care
- Baseball, again same thing as hockey
- Skiing/Snowboarding, now i'm the rare guys who actually don't mind the winter (not extreme winters) but I don't care for either activities.
- TV, i get a glazed eye look when people talk about "popular" TV shows. I'm not immune to media... I'll watch Netflix and such but hardly ever any general TV "with commercials".
- Clubbing/nightlife, I'm pretty much over that age now (36) but can't stand it. Too loud, too expensive, too stupid.
- Social Media, never got into it, never will... funny I've had a career in IT my entire life.
Post by: sheepstache on September 13, 2015, 09:31:18 AM
- Big Bang Theory - I also thought it was a take on what non-Science people think nerds/geeks/people who love their discipline with passion are like.
I love that people are so bored that they want to spend their time watching people who are interested in things.
Post by: 3Mer on September 13, 2015, 10:11:00 AM
Post by: RetiredAt63 on September 13, 2015, 10:36:21 AM
Re skin colour, when my DD competed in Irish Dance, the only skin that showed was their legs (long sleeves, high collars). Some of the girls started to use self-tanning lotion on their legs in winter competitions. Most of us laughed - if you want to "look Irish" (i.e. pale skin, curly hair, which was why there were so many wigs at comps) the normal skin colour was defined to be "fish-belly white".
A healthy Canadian should emit a distinctly bright glow under proper lighting. :P
I know you probably didn't mean it this way, but I'm going to call you on it because sometimes being confronted leads to learning about the hidden assumptions in our own minds. Right now you're implying that only white people can be Canadian.
Not because we sweat in the heat?
Post by: wenchsenior on September 13, 2015, 10:53:47 AM
Babies. Yuck. Toddlers I get, they do funny stuff sometimes and watching them work out how the world works can be entertaining. Babies are virtually brain dead fluid and scream factories. They're like retarded hairless puppies.
Say what you really mean, stop holding back, just to be polite. It's the internet.
..grin..
GuitarStv's post might be the hardest I've laughed in weeks. I mostly agree with it too. Though I actually don't find toddlers very interesting either, usually. But sometimes I'm out with other women, and it's like they can't stop themselves from rubbernecking at every infant or smallish child we pass. Whereas I tend to look everywhere else, cause the babies are likely to smell unfortunate, or be covered with spit up or drool or smashed food LOL.
Post by: Tigerpine on September 13, 2015, 10:59:49 AM
(Living in the Deep South, USA)
Post by: wenchsenior on September 13, 2015, 11:02:19 AM
Games. I have a friend who always wants to get together and play games. He likes Corn Hole, card games, settlers of catan, etc. I really can't stand playing games. I'd be plenty happy to just get together and shoot the sh*t over a beer or something but he's always needing this extra thing to play. Ugh. He's a poor conversationalist though so that might make sense.
Oh, man, you and me both. Ugh. Every time I'm with people and someone suggests playing a game... Instat panic reaction. Nooooo... Don't make me do it! I will happily sit at the same table and read a book while you guys play, but... Please do me a favor and count me out.
Kris, between your no-kids, older husband, and a bajillion other of your posts, I think you are my long lost twin!
Post by: wenchsenior on September 13, 2015, 11:05:38 AM
I don't...oh geez, I'm not sure I can get it out even in this supportive bah-fest...I don't--
deep breath
Idon'tcareforTerryPratchett
OH MY GOD GET THE PITCHFORKS.
I appreciate your honesty. That took a lot of courage.
Thank you. I was only able to summon the courage because everyone is behind a screen and can't actually get to me with the pitchforks.
The only issue is if this turns into some sort of compulsion that I can't stop.
Haha
AlsoNeilGaimandoesn'treallydoanythingforme
OH FUCK
I love this thread! I have no opinion on TP (haven't read enough) but Gaiman only really stands out in short-form fiction, IMO. At novel length, his uniqueness is diluted by lack of plot, of he desperately requires hard editing.
Post by: Kitsune on September 13, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
Games. I have a friend who always wants to get together and play games. He likes Corn Hole, card games, settlers of catan, etc. I really can't stand playing games. I'd be plenty happy to just get together and shoot the sh*t over a beer or something but he's always needing this extra thing to play. Ugh. He's a poor conversationalist though so that might make sense.
Oh, man, you and me both. Ugh. Every time I'm with people and someone suggests playing a game... Instat panic reaction. Nooooo... Don't make me do it! I will happily sit at the same table and read a book while you guys play, but... Please do me a favor and count me out.
Oh, the GAMES. *gag*
I don't mind a board game. Sometimes two. But people who can't seem to hang out UNLESS they're playing board games... so dulllll.
(This might not be helped by the fact that I have Major Issues with my SIL, who is also the person in my life who is the biggest fan of board games. And insists that everyone play with her. And most people do, to keep her happy and not sulking (she's 25, and people give in to her sulking fits, UGH). But by the time she gets to the board games, it's usually when there's been a huge crowd around all day and I'm peopled out and I don't bloody LIKE her and you want me to stay up late and play a GAME to stop you from SULKING instead of going to curl up in bed, at home, with a book? Hahahaha yeah right.) In short: ISSUES with both board games and my SIL.
Post by: milesdividendmd on September 13, 2015, 03:21:01 PM
I am not opposed to it and will happily eat it with breakfast or on a burger.
But common wisdom lately is that "everything tastes better with bacon," and this is just not the case for me.
Post by: Sailor Sam on September 13, 2015, 07:03:08 PM
Bacon.
My wife doesn't care for bacon. I've always assumed it was because she was an alien. She'll be so happy to know she's no longer alone on this strange blue planet.
Post by: michaelrecycles on September 13, 2015, 08:32:29 PM
Bacon.
I am not opposed to it and will happily eat it with breakfast or on a burger.
But common wisdom lately is that "everything tastes better with bacon," and this is just not the case for me.
I understand the "everything tastes better with bacon" enthusiasm, but I don't agree with the statement itself. Bacon is awesome, but I want it separate. The crunch is part of the experience, and that gets lost in mac and cheese/chocolate bars/burgers/whatever. The only pairing I love is with Brussels sprouts; something about those two together just works.
Post by: cerebus on September 14, 2015, 04:07:56 AM
Bacon.
I am not opposed to it and will happily eat it with breakfast or on a burger.
But common wisdom lately is that "everything tastes better with bacon," and this is just not the case for me.
For me bacon works best as a base layer of flavouring. It's something you include in a dish for its complexity and umami. I also find all these 'wrap it in bacon and stick a toothpick through it' concepts quite revolting.
Post by: FLA on September 18, 2015, 09:13:23 PM
Post by: cerebus on September 18, 2015, 11:37:35 PM
Dr Who and I really, really tried
Yeah me too.
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Post by: Kaikou on September 19, 2015, 01:11:30 AM
Post by: bsmith on September 19, 2015, 05:12:41 AM
Also, zombies are indeed stupid, as is texting, unless you're going to send me an address or a list of several things to get from the grocery store. I tried Dr. Who as well, and just... what a bore. I do like wizards, elves, vampires, werewolves, etc., but definitely not zombies. Agreed with everyone about the suspension of belief in movies these days. Also, I'm sick of superhero movies, and most movies in general, because they all have the same plot. Good guy underestimates self. Has a difficult love life. Villain bad! Explosions! Good guy defeats villain. Happily ever after. Oh, but wait, this movie has a plot twist that makes it different! Someone on the good guy's side, or gg himself, dies! It's totally different! Ugh.
Post by: Tigerpine on September 19, 2015, 05:39:09 AM
They're ok every once in a while, but my god, they're everywhere! (I can see how that might sound sarcastic, but I mean it sincerely. :P )
There're movies, TV shows, t-shirts, etc. I even read an article about how some government agency was practicing drills for a zombie apocalypse. I just don't get the appeal.
Post by: Gerard on September 19, 2015, 08:10:00 AM
I don't have the brains or citations to support this position through a long internet discussion, though, so feel free to refrain from taking it up...
Post by: smalllife on September 19, 2015, 09:45:07 AM
Babies and all children under eight.
LOTR .... guys walk a long time and fight a lot.
Monty python, stand up comedy, movies with a one person lead (so basically, stand up)
+1 bananas, chit chat and I'll add networking.
Driving a car, grocery shopping, deep cleaning
Plus one to concerts: so loud I can't process the music I came to listen to
Post by: Katsplaying on September 19, 2015, 01:20:55 PM
I don't like veg. When the kids were here cooking broccoli & weird shit like that I'd leave the house til I knew it'd been aired out enough.
REALLY don't like children. Once they hit about 30, they've usually developed enough brains to converse with.
I was in a book club that read "serious" books and one that everyone raved endlessly about "A Fine Balance" (was on all the lists & a "must-read") I found unrelentingly awful. The writing was fine, the story was one horrible thing after another with NO redeeming anything, to my mind. Turns out my literary tastes run much more to the plebian & pedestrian and I like my entertainment to entertain, not sermonize or make me feel awful. Ditto for "serious films." I haven't seen anything Oscar-winning or -nominated in decades.
Post by: sheepstache on September 19, 2015, 02:10:20 PM
I don't mind it once in awhile, but why is it so trendy right now?
I don't want to take this thread in an unpleasant direction, but the wider popularity of zombies (which many of us don't get) may reflect the paranoid zeitgeist. You can make/watch movies where people escape from or kill zombies, but not foreigners or socialist Muslim governments. There's a history of Dangerous Alien type films every time a culture is afraid of Dangerous Nearby People Who Are Different.
I don't have the brains or citations to support this position through a long internet discussion, though, so feel free to refrain from taking it up...
I could definitely see that. Although I group them in with world-ending disaster movies, including ones about infections and general post-apocalyptic survivalism. The whole post-apocalyptic thing seems on the one hand like a death-wish fulfillment--i.e., people are so worried about that it's a relief to see it happen--and on the other hand like a fantasy fulfillment--i.e., a reaction against feelings of overpopulation and desire to return to wild west roots of America.
Zombies as you're talking about them I would group into the popularity of WWII films, anything having to do with Nazis, neo-nazis, etc., where people get the satisfaction of having a bad guy without feeling conflicted about it. Also, films where the bad guy is English. Or like in the later seasons of Breaking Bad, I think they got shit for having all the bad guys be Latino so they switched to white trash and Europeans.
Post by: Astatine on September 19, 2015, 09:26:45 PM
I don't like surprises.
+ 1,000,000
This is where the golden rule did. not. work. at all with me and DH in the first couple years after we met. He LOVES surprises. Me, ugh, I hate not knowing in advance. So for example, DH's birthday dinner out is always a surprise for him and my birthday dinner out is chosen by me well in advance.
I was in a book club that read "serious" books and one that everyone raved endlessly about "A Fine Balance" (was on all the lists & a "must-read") I found unrelentingly awful. The writing was fine, the story was one horrible thing after another with NO redeeming anything, to my mind. Turns out my literary tastes run much more to the plebian & pedestrian and I like my entertainment to entertain, not sermonize or make me feel awful. Ditto for "serious films." I haven't seen anything Oscar-winning or -nominated in decades.
Oh yes. Many people in my social circles LOVE serious full on literature, you know the stuff that might win a Nobel Prize. Nope nope nope. Reading is for pleasure, not a hard slog nor emotional trauma.
Post by: Kitsune on September 20, 2015, 09:26:24 AM
I don't like surprises.
+ 1,000,000
Seriously, so much.
My spouse and I are the same way about that, though, which is nice. Friends trying to plan a surprise party? I can rely on my spouse to tell me about it so that I'm actually in the mood to enjoy the party when it happens instead of being annoyed that my quiet "me time" evening got coopted by a need to be social. (I also specifically told him that his friends were planning a bachelor party and did he want to know when/where/what was going on or would he rather it be a surprise... I have never seen him look so horrified at the notion of it being a surprise. So I told him when/where/what, he was thankful, and when it came around he pretended to be surprised and went out and had a great time. The joys of marrying someone who knows you...)
Post by: cerebus on September 21, 2015, 01:36:57 AM
Re: movies. I can't stand all the superhero / superpower / supersmart stuff.
....
I don't mind it once in awhile, but why is it so trendy right now?
The simple answer to this is because Marvel finally got some decent directors to start filming their intellectual property, and realized there were absolute torrents of cash to be made milking a century's worth of nostalgia in their comics. Also Hollywood loves them because they can do high budget SFX driven blockbusters with very little risk of losing money.
Post by: FrugalShrew on October 07, 2015, 03:54:29 PM
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Post by: Kitsune on October 08, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
"Clean eating" also reeks of sanctimony.
This.
Speaking of things I can't stand: sanctimony regarding food choices. Or, looking back at this weekend: yes, I am letting my 17-month-old nom on a doughnut. She also had scrambled eggs and mushrooms for breakfast, smoked salmon and wilted spinach for lunch, and chicken, rice, and sliced fresh veggies for dinner, with fresh fruit liberally provided all day (note: those are basically all her favorite foods, though she'd really be happiest if I added pickles to everything. Or extra curry and chilli powder. She's an odd baby). So to the woman who was making too-loud, obviously-hoping-to-be-overheard comments about 'parents these days feeding junk to their babies' outside the doughnut stall at the farmer's market: F*ck you.
Also known as: good food in general, with the occasional junk/indulgence, is way more pleasant than hanging around people who won't let it go already.
Post by: Astatine on October 08, 2015, 04:39:49 PM
"Clean eating" also reeks of sanctimony.
This.
Speaking of things I can't stand: sanctimony regarding food choices. Or, looking back at this weekend: yes, I am letting my 17-month-old nom on a doughnut. She also had scrambled eggs and mushrooms for breakfast, smoked salmon and wilted spinach for lunch, and chicken, rice, and sliced fresh veggies for dinner, with fresh fruit liberally provided all day (note: those are basically all her favorite foods, though she'd really be happiest if I added pickles to everything. Or extra curry and chilli powder. She's an odd baby). So to the woman who was making too-loud, obviously-hoping-to-be-overheard comments about 'parents these days feeding junk to their babies' outside the doughnut stall at the farmer's market: F*ck you.
Also known as: good food in general, with the occasional junk/indulgence, is way more pleasant than hanging around people who won't let it go already.
*applause* As someone who grew up with overly strict eating rules imposed by the parents, your way sounds eminently sensible. (and lol @ your baby loving pickles, curry and chilli powder)
Post by: calimom on October 08, 2015, 08:40:24 PM
Narcissistic navel gazing, if you ask me.
Post by: GuitarStv on October 09, 2015, 08:44:24 AM
Jazz music. It bores me to tears. I love classical music so the dislike of jazz is a bit of a mystery to me and people around me.
Actually I've found that classical music lovers often tend to feel this way for some reason. The on the fly composition, improvisation, and expressiveness is a pretty different approach to creation of music from the robotic 'play exactly what the damned composer wrote, you can express individuality only by the frequency of your blinking' of classical music. No need to head to a concert, you might as well just copy scores into midi triggered synths. :P
Seriously though, jazz is a pretty big umbrella, I'd bet there's something in there that you would enjoy. You have your old school New Orleans/Dixieland, your hotter Chicago style, Bossa Nova, Jazz Funk, Jazz Fusion, Bebop, Big Band and Swing, Jazz Blues, West Coast, Latin Jazz, French Gypsy Jazz, Free Jazz, Smooth Jazz . . . There's just so much of it that something is bound to appeal if you listen long enough. There's also such a huge amount that you'll probably dislike a large amount that you come across. YMMV.
Post by: Glenstache on October 09, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
I'm not a grinch and I try really hard not to get in the way of others enjoying the holiday, but I really strongly dislike it.
Post by: boy_bye on October 09, 2015, 10:28:41 AM
"Eat, Pray, Love". Read half the book and refused to see the movie. Women fell all over themselves about what a "transformational" experience it was.
Narcissistic navel gazing, if you ask me.
i dunno, i think it's pretty common to hate this book but it doesn't make sense to me why people hate it so much. it's a beautifully written, deeply felt memoir about how a woman recreated her life in her own image. and of course it's navel-gazing -- it's a freakin memoir! that's what memoirs are! if you don't like people examining their own life experiences, then don't read memoirs!
also strikes me as funny that dudes who write memoirs don't seem to get this same criticism.
(that being said, the movie is bad.)
Post by: sheepstache on October 09, 2015, 10:31:47 AM
Re: movies. I can't stand all the superhero / superpower / supersmart stuff.
....
I don't mind it once in awhile, but why is it so trendy right now?
The simple answer to this is because Marvel finally got some decent directors to start filming their intellectual property, and realized there were absolute torrents of cash to be made milking a century's worth of nostalgia in their comics. Also Hollywood loves them because they can do high budget SFX driven blockbusters with very little risk of losing money.
Yeah, I totally get the super hero movies based on comics, and maybe the popularity of the non-comic-based superpower stories are just execs trying to ride the coat tails. It feels like it's bigger than that, but maybe that's an underestimation of the copycat affect. I just get tired of long shots of the character looking super intense just to the side of the camera with a fan blowing from somewhere. Like, that's not action.
Post by: Sailor Sam on October 09, 2015, 10:33:27 AM
"Eat, Pray, Love". Read half the book and refused to see the movie. Women fell all over themselves about what a "transformational" experience it was.
Narcissistic navel gazing, if you ask me.
I didn't mine "Eat, Pray, Love", but I threw "Reading Lolita in Tehran" against the wall for the same reasons. I've never read anything quite so smugly self-aggrandizing.
Post by: abiteveryday on October 09, 2015, 10:51:55 AM
"Eat, Pray, Love". Read half the book and refused to see the movie. Women fell all over themselves about what a "transformational" experience it was.
Narcissistic navel gazing, if you ask me.
i dunno, i think it's pretty common to hate this book but it doesn't make sense to me why people hate it so much. it's a beautifully written, deeply felt memoir about how a woman recreated her life in her own image. and of course it's navel-gazing -- it's a freakin memoir! that's what memoirs are! if you don't like people examining their own life experiences, then don't read memoirs!
also strikes me as funny that dudes who write memoirs don't seem to get this same criticism.
(that being said, the movie is bad.)
I fully admit I have not read it, but isn't a lot of the criticism that it doesn't really offer anything actionable for people? Wasn't she already wealthy by the time she decided to go find herself wherever? It's like those articles about executives that suddenly realize that family is important, and they will never work again. I mean that's great and all, but you have 8 digit net worth already, so good for you. Not like I can decide to retire tomorrow and start a trust to support my family for generations.
Post by: mtn on October 09, 2015, 10:54:55 AM
Coffee. I only drink tea. I tried coffee once and didn't like it. I do like the smell of brewing coffee, but don't like coffee flavoured anything: cheesecake, chocolate bars, brownies. Ewwww!
The problem is that you only tried it once. I had to drink coffee at least a dozen times before I found it tolerable. Now it's one of the best simple joys that I have. Like beer, a taste for coffee is one that must be cultivated intentionally.
I thought I'd never drink coffee. Got through college, had a kid, still no coffee. Then I went back to grad school while working full time, and had a second kid. I'm drinking it every morning. Sometimes it's just a delivery method for caffeine, but once you are hooked you are hooked.
I don't think anyone starts off liking coffee. For me it was like beer. I drank beer to be cool at parties, or to get drunk at parties (college males are not intelligent beings). Then I started to get used to it, then I started to like it. Took about 2 months.
Coffee was similar. Couldn't stand it, but I hated pop even more and needed to stay awake somehow through my 17 hours of 300 level mathematics classes. Coffee is cheap! Started drinking a lot of coffee. Got used to it. Tolerated it. Then started to enjoy it.
Now give me my damn coffee cause I can't function without it, and I like the way it tastes.
Post by: boy_bye on October 09, 2015, 11:58:38 AM
"Eat, Pray, Love". Read half the book and refused to see the movie. Women fell all over themselves about what a "transformational" experience it was.
Narcissistic navel gazing, if you ask me.
i dunno, i think it's pretty common to hate this book but it doesn't make sense to me why people hate it so much. it's a beautifully written, deeply felt memoir about how a woman recreated her life in her own image. and of course it's navel-gazing -- it's a freakin memoir! that's what memoirs are! if you don't like people examining their own life experiences, then don't read memoirs!
also strikes me as funny that dudes who write memoirs don't seem to get this same criticism.
(that being said, the movie is bad.)
I fully admit I have not read it, but isn't a lot of the criticism that it doesn't really offer anything actionable for people? Wasn't she already wealthy by the time she decided to go find herself wherever?
no, she was not wealthy. this book is what made her wealthy, a year or so after it came out. she pitched this idea to her publisher, and they went for it. i'm not positive, but i believe that her trip was financed by the advance on the book proposal.
and ... though i actually got a lot out of the book personally, i'm not sure why a memoir needs to offer something actionable?
Post by: abiteveryday on October 09, 2015, 01:47:38 PM
"Eat, Pray, Love". Read half the book and refused to see the movie. Women fell all over themselves about what a "transformational" experience it was.
Narcissistic navel gazing, if you ask me.
i dunno, i think it's pretty common to hate this book but it doesn't make sense to me why people hate it so much. it's a beautifully written, deeply felt memoir about how a woman recreated her life in her own image. and of course it's navel-gazing -- it's a freakin memoir! that's what memoirs are! if you don't like people examining their own life experiences, then don't read memoirs!
also strikes me as funny that dudes who write memoirs don't seem to get this same criticism.
(that being said, the movie is bad.)
I fully admit I have not read it, but isn't a lot of the criticism that it doesn't really offer anything actionable for people? Wasn't she already wealthy by the time she decided to go find herself wherever?
no, she was not wealthy. this book is what made her wealthy, a year or so after it came out. she pitched this idea to her publisher, and they went for it. i'm not positive, but i believe that her trip was financed by the advance on the book proposal.
and ... though i actually got a lot out of the book personally, i'm not sure why a memoir needs to offer something actionable?
Different strokes! I'm not one to judge, most of my recreational reading involves wizards and magical swords :)
Post by: calimom on October 09, 2015, 05:03:51 PM
"Eat, Pray, Love". Read half the book and refused to see the movie. Women fell all over themselves about what a "transformational" experience it was.
Narcissistic navel gazing, if you ask me.
i dunno, i think it's pretty common to hate this book but it doesn't make sense to me why people hate it so much. it's a beautifully written, deeply felt memoir about how a woman recreated her life in her own image. and of course it's navel-gazing -- it's a freakin memoir! that's what memoirs are! if you don't like people examining their own life experiences, then don't read memoirs!
also strikes me as funny that dudes who write memoirs don't seem to get this same criticism.
(that being said, the movie is bad.)
I fully admit I have not read it, but isn't a lot of the criticism that it doesn't really offer anything actionable for people? Wasn't she already wealthy by the time she decided to go find herself wherever?
no, she was not wealthy. this book is what made her wealthy, a year or so after it came out. she pitched this idea to her publisher, and they went for it. i'm not positive, but i believe that her trip was financed by the advance on the book proposal.
and ... though i actually got a lot out of the book personally, i'm not sure why a memoir needs to offer something actionable?
This is exactly my point! It was a book group selection, 7 members LOVED the book, I and another woman just didn't get anything out of it. I couldn't even finish it, which is rare for me. Generally I love memoirs, either from someone relatively or completely unknown or a famous (yet interesting) person of some sort. I know the book did extremely well and don't begrudge the author her success. I just didn't like it. :)
Post by: Embok on October 09, 2015, 09:32:37 PM
Liver. It's supposed to be wildly good for you but I. Don't. Like. It. Even when you make it fancy and call it foie gras or pate.
Okra. It's slimy.
Post by: Astatine on October 10, 2015, 12:21:34 AM
Okra. It's slimy.
Okra is like eating slimy felt. *shudder*
Fennel is the in thing around here and on the rare occasion we eat out at a fancypants restaurant, there are a whole bunch of dishes that are hell no for me because fennel. Ugh. I do like licorice (in moderation) but fennel is just wrong.
Post by: Monocle Money Mouth on October 10, 2015, 05:18:25 AM
Alcohol - Tastes bad and makes me feel terrible.
Fish - Texture and scent.
Sriracha - It taste like garbage smells
Organ Meat - I would probably eat this if you ground it up or hid it with other flavors, but I couldn't just eat a liver or kidney if you plopped it on my plate.
Sweet Potatoes - They just don't do it for me
Anything that sounds like it is trying to hard to be an interesting flavor - Wildberry Balsamic Feta Ice Cream? Count me out! That is a real ice cream flavor I saw a local boutique.
I'm not a picky eater, but those are a few things I can't deal with :)
Post by: Pinch of salt on October 10, 2015, 06:55:54 AM
Post by: Bracken_Joy on October 10, 2015, 07:47:23 AM
I'm not a picky eater, but those are a few things I can't deal with :)
After that list, I'm not entirely sure that's true =P
Post by: Monocle Money Mouth on October 10, 2015, 09:26:42 AM
I'm not a picky eater, but those are a few things I can't deal with :)
After that list, I'm not entirely sure that's true =P
If you had to choose to go out to eat with me or my Mom, you would probably much rather eat with me. Here are some things my mom won't eat but I will:
Mexican
Chinese
Indian
Lebanese
Yellow Cheese
The dining options with my Mom are as follows
Steak Place
Italian
I'll eat everything above and then some. It's not like I live on french fries and grilled cheese sandwiches.
Post by: EricL on October 10, 2015, 10:02:13 AM
Raw tomatoes- the Devil's work
Big Bang Theory - yawn. Even though I get and can even correct them on their geek knowledge
Babies - for reasons that should seem obvious
Horses - Just not my thing.
Cars - I had one and driving had its moments, but I just never was into them except for their practical applications.
Post by: AllieVaulter on October 10, 2015, 10:12:50 AM
Alcohol
Soda
Coffee
Seafood
Post by: dorothyc on October 10, 2015, 10:21:27 AM
Post by: EricL on October 11, 2015, 02:48:19 AM
Lots of people ooh and ahh over shrimp, crab, lobster and the like. To me they just look like sea bugs.
They are bugs. But like most things they go great with butter.
Post by: Rural on October 11, 2015, 06:42:52 AM
Lots of people ooh and ahh over shrimp, crab, lobster and the like. To me they just look like sea bugs.
They are bugs. But like most things they go great with butter.
You know, this should mean we could all have such treats for free any time we want, just by using the land version. Should cut down on any mercury accumulation issues, too.
Post by: mtn on October 13, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
Lots of people ooh and ahh over shrimp, crab, lobster and the like. To me they just look like sea bugs.
They are bugs. But like most things they go great with butter.
You know, this should mean we could all have such treats for free any time we want, just by using the land version. Should cut down on any mercury accumulation issues, too.
Unfortunately, "real bugs" have too much shell in the shell-to-meat ratio to make it worth it. And the meat just isn't that tasty.
Yes, I have eaten insects before--specifically cicada's. A guy said he'd give $30 to anyone who ate one. I did it, and would do it again today, but would bring some syrup or molasses or chocolate to dip it in first. Oh, and take the wings off. Bleyach.
FWIW, I do love Lobster, even plane without anything, and crab. I am completely indifferent to shrimp, and generally actually try to avoid it due to my fear of its origin.
Post by: milesdividendmd on October 13, 2015, 10:20:18 AM
Post by: GuitarStv on October 13, 2015, 10:22:32 AM
Post by: RetiredAt63 on October 13, 2015, 10:39:45 AM
Actually re flavour, it seems to come with myoglobin - at least I find dark meat in poultry is a lot more interesting than white meat, and pork and beef have lots of flavour and myoglobin. I had crocodile once, and it could have passed for lobster or really boring chicken breast, very bland, very delicate texture.
Unfortunately, "real bugs" have too much shell in the shell-to-meat ratio to make it worth it. And the meat just isn't that tasty.
FWIW, I do love Lobster, even plane without anything, and crab. I am completely indifferent to shrimp, and generally actually try to avoid it due to my fear of its origin.
Post by: sixup on October 13, 2015, 10:43:59 AM
Post by: Proud Foot on October 13, 2015, 11:55:30 AM
Zombies as you're talking about them I would group into the popularity of WWII films, anything having to do with Nazis, neo-nazis, etc., where people get the satisfaction of having a bad guy without feeling conflicted about it.
Just go ahead and combine the two! oh wait...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1278340/
Personally I don't like:
Most of the films that win the big awards (Academy's, etc.)
I also cannot stand most of the little hipster indie films either
Most books on any best-seller list
Fancy chain resturaunts, I much prefer hole in the wall, mom & pop type places.
Loud, overcrowded places - indoor concerts, clubs
Post by: FLA on October 13, 2015, 11:56:32 AM
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i dunno, i think it's pretty common to hate this book but it doesn't make sense to me why people hate it so much. it's a beautifully written, deeply felt memoir about how a woman recreated her life in her own image. and of course it's navel-gazing -- it's a freakin memoir! that's what memoirs are! if you don't like people examining their own life experiences, then don't read memoirs!
also strikes me as funny that dudes who write memoirs don't seem to get this same criticism.
(that being said, the movie is bad.)
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my friends loved it, I tried it, did not care for writing style and to me, IMHO, having read two of her books, I find her to a bit of a narcissist. But she seems to have inspired many others, whatever floats your boat.
I disagree about female autobiographers, Joan Didion and Patti Smith (she won an NBA) were lauded for their work in recent years. And both have strong follow-ups.
Post by: calimom on October 13, 2015, 05:38:30 PM
Books and movies are so subjective. I can't say I hated Forrest Gump, but it was one big "meh" for me, and it did exceedingly well and is beloved today.
No wizards, zombies, ghosts, for me, not my genre, but glad there are writers who delve into it and glad the audience loves it.
Post by: FLA on October 13, 2015, 07:13:40 PM
Books and movies are so subjective. I can't say I hated Forrest Gump, but it was one big "meh" for me, and it did exceedingly well and is beloved today.
No wizards, zombies, ghosts, for me, not my genre, but glad there are writers who delve into it and glad the audience loves it.
Titanic is my Forrest Gump, my ex's nieces dragged me to it twice when we were visiting. Now I never have to watch it again, they got my eyeballs and my money, we're good.
I think books about anything are great, all genres are important. And that's what it takes to keep people reading. I hate that statistic that after college, 80% of people never read a book again. I can't imagine this is true, I thought there was an uptick in reading with Kindles, etc.
Post by: boy_bye on October 13, 2015, 07:13:51 PM
my friends loved it, I tried it, did not care for writing style and to me, IMHO, having read two of her books, I find her to a bit of a narcissist. But she seems to have inspired many others, whatever floats your boat.
I disagree about female autobiographers, Joan Didion and Patti Smith (she won an NBA) were lauded for their work in recent years. And both have strong follow-ups.
You seem to have missed my point ... I wasn't saying anything about other female autobiographers. I was specifically pointing out that I have not heard the navel-gazing narcissist criticism that I hear about Eat Pray Love when memoirs by dudes are discussed.
It's a gendered criticism, in my opinion, which means it seems to be disproportionately applied to books by women. (Similar to the dismissive "chick lit" label.) That doesn't mean it's applied to all books by women.
I get that EPL is not everyone's cup of tea, and that's fine. I just think it's worth looking at the gendered way people talk about it.
Post by: FLA on October 13, 2015, 07:16:23 PM
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You seem to have missed my point ... I wasn't saying anything about other female autobiographers. I was specifically pointing out that I have not heard the navel-gazing narcissist criticism that I hear about Eat Pray Love when memoirs by dudes are discussed.
It's a gendered criticism, in my opinion, which means it seems to be disproportionately applied to books by women. (Similar to the dismissive "chick lit" label.) That doesn't mean it's applied to all books by women.
I get that EPL is not everyone's cup of tea, and that's fine. I just think it's worth looking at the gendered way people talk about it.
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I gotcha now.
Post by: Shropskr on October 15, 2015, 10:51:19 AM
Home maintenance ie vacuuming, cleaning showers, etc
Kids homework
Parent teacher conferences
Hell anything I have to do at the school.
Fundraisers
Eke I love my kids and do everything I can for them. But I hate school! Public or Homeschool. Still hate it.
Post by: AmandaS1989 on October 19, 2015, 01:12:32 PM
Loud or ill-behaved children. If they're quiet and/or have good manners then I don't have a problem. Babies I can't handle. My poor mom will never get to be mawmaw.
Post by: Dicey on October 19, 2015, 01:58:49 PM
Mayonnaise. Ugh *shudders* I don't know how my mom and dad eat mayonnaise and banana sandwiches. *gags*My Bonus Kid won't eat anything with mayo or that has a mayo-like texture.
I am not personally fond of bananas. A mayo and banana sandwich would gross both of us out. I can't wait to tell him about this so we can shudder together.
*Shudder* x 3. Ugh is right.
Post by: AmandaS1989 on October 19, 2015, 02:58:14 PM
Mayonnaise. Ugh *shudders* I don't know how my mom and dad eat mayonnaise and banana sandwiches. *gags*My Bonus Kid won't eat anything with mayo or that has a mayo-like texture.
I am not personally fond of bananas. A mayo and banana sandwich would gross both of us out. I can't wait to tell him about this so we can shudder together.
*Shudder* x 3. Ugh is right.
Might want to have a trash can handy in case he hurls lol. Seriously I have no idea how they eat or why they even like it. But my parents both grew up with a lot less than what my brother and I had so they had to eat a lot of stuff my brother and I didn't have to. Like that evaporated milk. Ew. My mother told me during one point in her childhood things got so bad that my grandfather could only afford to buy apples for his family to eat. So for three months, except on the weekends when they went to their grandparents' house, my mom and uncle only ate apples. My mom told me she couldn't even look at an apple for an entire year afterwards.
Post by: Rosy on October 19, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
For my money I prefer a fine juicy color of a luscious red ruby or the glory of a fine yellow labradorite or the kelly green of a quality chrome diopside anyday.
+1 on the zombie movies or books - gross.
On the coffee - can't live without it:), but don't care at all for the ice tea everyone here in Florida is in love with.
The most recent book I considered a complete waste of my time was the popular Konmarie book on Tidying up your Clutter. Waited for this book for two and a half months at my library - glad I didn't cave and buy it on Amazon. It fell short on so many levels, it struck me as rather juvenile in its approach.
My all time favorite book in this genre is called "Spirit of the Home" by Jane Alexander. The subtitle is "How to make your Home a Sanctuary" it considers your lifestyle and discusses clearing your clutter from a different, holistic perspective. Spring cleaning, natural cleaning products, space clearing, thoughts on your senses and sacred spaces including aromatherapy. The book includes a few chapters on Feng Shui which is one reason I almost did not purchase this book, but found riveting. Totally enjoyable and inspiring read - a book I go back to from time to time.
... outstanding photography too:)
Post by: Bracken_Joy on October 19, 2015, 03:39:50 PM
My all time favorite book in this genre is called "Spirit of the Home" by Jane Alexander. The subtitle is "How to make your Home a Sanctuary" it considers your lifestyle and discusses clearing your clutter from a different, holistic perspective. Spring cleaning, natural cleaning products, space clearing, thoughts on your senses and sacred spaces including aromatherapy. The book includes a few chapters on Feng Shui which is one reason I almost did not purchase this book, but found riveting. Totally enjoyable and inspiring read - a book I go back to from time to time.
... outstanding photography too:)
Thanks for the recommendation! On my library list now =)
Post by: Dicey on October 19, 2015, 06:13:46 PM
Oh, that makes me sad. I hope they went on to live happy lives...Mayonnaise. Ugh *shudders* I don't know how my mom and dad eat mayonnaise and banana sandwiches. *gags*My Bonus Kid won't eat anything with mayo or that has a mayo-like texture.
I am not personally fond of bananas. A mayo and banana sandwich would gross both of us out. I can't wait to tell him about this so we can shudder together.
*Shudder* x 3. Ugh is right.
Might want to have a trash can handy in case he hurls lol. Seriously I have no idea how they eat or why they even like it. But my parents both grew up with a lot less than what my brother and I had so they had to eat a lot of stuff my brother and I didn't have to. Like that evaporated milk. Ew. My mother told me during one point in her childhood things got so bad that my grandfather could only afford to buy apples for his family to eat. So for three months, except on the weekends when they went to their grandparents' house, my mom and uncle only ate apples. My mom told me she couldn't even look at an apple for an entire year afterwards.
As to the trash can, not necessary. There's no way I'd even try to feed him that, and if I did, he wouldn't eat it. No how, no way. OTOH, just the thought of it could cause that reaction, so I think I won't mention it until well after dinner...
Post by: AmandaS1989 on October 20, 2015, 06:27:03 AM
Oh, that makes me sad. I hope they went on to live happy lives...Mayonnaise. Ugh *shudders* I don't know how my mom and dad eat mayonnaise and banana sandwiches. *gags*My Bonus Kid won't eat anything with mayo or that has a mayo-like texture.
I am not personally fond of bananas. A mayo and banana sandwich would gross both of us out. I can't wait to tell him about this so we can shudder together.
*Shudder* x 3. Ugh is right.
Might want to have a trash can handy in case he hurls lol. Seriously I have no idea how they eat or why they even like it. But my parents both grew up with a lot less than what my brother and I had so they had to eat a lot of stuff my brother and I didn't have to. Like that evaporated milk. Ew. My mother told me during one point in her childhood things got so bad that my grandfather could only afford to buy apples for his family to eat. So for three months, except on the weekends when they went to their grandparents' house, my mom and uncle only ate apples. My mom told me she couldn't even look at an apple for an entire year afterwards.
As to the trash can, not necessary. There's no way I'd even try to feed him that, and if I did, he wouldn't eat it. No how, no way. OTOH, just the thought of it could cause that reaction, so I think I won't mention it until well after dinner...
Things got better for them eventually. My grandfather moved them from the mountains where they lived to the city two hours away so he could find work. And finally decided to actually stay at a job longer than six months. Sometimes I wonder why my grandmother stayed with him.
Did you ever mention the sandwich to him? I hope he didn't turn green. But that's not the most disgusting thing my family's eaten surprisingly. My grandmother was fond of chicken livers and grape jelly together. I asked her why she would eat something so nasty and she said it didn't taste half bad. But she admitted that over 40 years of smoking had killed most of her taste buds so I'm not gonna trust that.
Post by: mtn on October 20, 2015, 08:48:37 AM
Oh, that makes me sad. I hope they went on to live happy lives...Mayonnaise. Ugh *shudders* I don't know how my mom and dad eat mayonnaise and banana sandwiches. *gags*My Bonus Kid won't eat anything with mayo or that has a mayo-like texture.
I am not personally fond of bananas. A mayo and banana sandwich would gross both of us out. I can't wait to tell him about this so we can shudder together.
*Shudder* x 3. Ugh is right.
Might want to have a trash can handy in case he hurls lol. Seriously I have no idea how they eat or why they even like it. But my parents both grew up with a lot less than what my brother and I had so they had to eat a lot of stuff my brother and I didn't have to. Like that evaporated milk. Ew. My mother told me during one point in her childhood things got so bad that my grandfather could only afford to buy apples for his family to eat. So for three months, except on the weekends when they went to their grandparents' house, my mom and uncle only ate apples. My mom told me she couldn't even look at an apple for an entire year afterwards.
As to the trash can, not necessary. There's no way I'd even try to feed him that, and if I did, he wouldn't eat it. No how, no way. OTOH, just the thought of it could cause that reaction, so I think I won't mention it until well after dinner...
Things got better for them eventually. My grandfather moved them from the mountains where they lived to the city two hours away so he could find work. And finally decided to actually stay at a job longer than six months. Sometimes I wonder why my grandmother stayed with him.
Did you ever mention the sandwich to him? I hope he didn't turn green. But that's not the most disgusting thing my family's eaten surprisingly. My grandmother was fond of chicken livers and grape jelly together. I asked her why she would eat something so nasty and she said it didn't taste half bad. But she admitted that over 40 years of smoking had killed most of her taste buds so I'm not gonna trust that.
I love chicken livers. I love grape jelly. And while I cannot say it sounds good together, it doesn't sound too horrible--bad, but not disgusting.
My great uncle eats (or used to eat, his health issues determine his diet now) oreo cookies with velveeta cheese. I'm not knocking it, since I haven't tried it... But I'm also not going to try it. And I'll try anything once.
Post by: gillstone on October 20, 2015, 08:58:30 AM
Beets taste like dirt
Post by: GuitarStv on October 20, 2015, 09:38:14 AM
Beets taste like dirt
Let's be fair . . . they taste like sweet dirt.
Post by: AmandaS1989 on October 20, 2015, 09:48:22 AM
Beets taste like dirt
Let's be fair . . . they taste like sweet dirt.
It's still dirt though :)
Post by: Rightflyer on October 20, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
As in camouflage patterned clothing, coverings, paint schemes etc. Seems ridiculous on anything that isn't owned by a military organization.
Cilantro.
I used to love it. I got sick eating a street taco in Puerto Vallarta in the 80's and since then, I just can't force myself to enjoy it. Not for want of trying though.
Post by: Dicey on October 20, 2015, 11:53:14 AM
Well, yesterday we had a 90-year-old friend over for dinner, so I did broach the subject, but well before dinner. She grew up in Alaska, where food availability was much scarcer, so she said she couldn't be a picky eater. One of her childhood favorites was peanut butter-and-dill-pickle sandwiches. Okay...Oh, that makes me sad. I hope they went on to live happy lives...Mayonnaise. Ugh *shudders* I don't know how my mom and dad eat mayonnaise and banana sandwiches. *gags*My Bonus Kid won't eat anything with mayo or that has a mayo-like texture.
I am not personally fond of bananas. A mayo and banana sandwich would gross both of us out. I can't wait to tell him about this so we can shudder together.
*Shudder* x 3. Ugh is right.
Might want to have a trash can handy in case he hurls lol. Seriously I have no idea how they eat or why they even like it. But my parents both grew up with a lot less than what my brother and I had so they had to eat a lot of stuff my brother and I didn't have to. Like that evaporated milk. Ew. My mother told me during one point in her childhood things got so bad that my grandfather could only afford to buy apples for his family to eat. So for three months, except on the weekends when they went to their grandparents' house, my mom and uncle only ate apples. My mom told me she couldn't even look at an apple for an entire year afterwards.
As to the trash can, not necessary. There's no way I'd even try to feed him that, and if I did, he wouldn't eat it. No how, no way. OTOH, just the thought of it could cause that reaction, so I think I won't mention it until well after dinner...
Things got better for them eventually. My grandfather moved them from the mountains where they lived to the city two hours away so he could find work. And finally decided to actually stay at a job longer than six months. Sometimes I wonder why my grandmother stayed with him.
Did you ever mention the sandwich to him? I hope he didn't turn green. But that's not the most disgusting thing my family's eaten surprisingly. My grandmother was fond of chicken livers and grape jelly together. I asked her why she would eat something so nasty and she said it didn't taste half bad. But she admitted that over 40 years of smoking had killed most of her taste buds so I'm not gonna trust that.
Post by: AlanStache on October 20, 2015, 01:37:38 PM
Books that use made up words: Anathem by Neal Stephenson, Dune, others. Flipping to the back to look up a word spoils the flow. Just makes me roll my eyes and say "damn-it what the hell is that again".
Big Bang Theory is a below average sit-com.
Post by: AmandaS1989 on October 20, 2015, 02:53:31 PM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
Post by: mtn on October 20, 2015, 03:33:58 PM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
(I'm 25, and grew up in Chicago suburbs and currently live in Chicago)
Squirrel and rabbit are both tasty. Nothing wrong with either of them, especially in a stew. If you think about it, pig is weirder to eat than rabbit.
Post by: Bracken_Joy on October 20, 2015, 03:40:03 PM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
(I'm 25, and grew up in Chicago suburbs and currently live in Chicago)
Squirrel and rabbit are both tasty. Nothing wrong with either of them, especially in a stew. If you think about it, pig is weirder to eat than rabbit.
Personally, I think squirrel is gross, but I love rabbit!
Post by: Rural on October 20, 2015, 04:57:40 PM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
(I'm 25, and grew up in Chicago suburbs and currently live in Chicago)
Squirrel and rabbit are both tasty. Nothing wrong with either of them, especially in a stew. If you think about it, pig is weirder to eat than rabbit.
Personally, I think squirrel is gross, but I love rabbit!
+1
Squirrel is better in stew than out of it, but that,s not saying much. Rabbit's actually hard to mess up, though.
Post by: Kitsune on October 20, 2015, 07:06:48 PM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
(I'm 25, and grew up in Chicago suburbs and currently live in Chicago)
Squirrel and rabbit are both tasty. Nothing wrong with either of them, especially in a stew. If you think about it, pig is weirder to eat than rabbit.
Personally, I think squirrel is gross, but I love rabbit!
+1
Squirrel is better in stew than out of it, but that,s not saying much. Rabbit's actually hard to mess up, though.
Rabbit stew with dumplings is YUM.
Rabbits are also easy to raise, which is lovely when you have limited space and spare time but would like to limit dependance on factory-farmed meat. We just moved, so none this year, but next year... yuuummmm...
Post by: GuitarStv on October 21, 2015, 05:47:12 AM
Post by: AmandaS1989 on October 21, 2015, 06:52:29 AM
Post by: mtn on October 21, 2015, 07:52:21 AM
Rabbit is almost indistinguishable from cat, so if you like rabbit and see cat on a menu somewhere . . . give it a whirl.
Nah, that breaks my personal almost-a-rule-but-really-a-very-strong-guideline of "I don't eat meat that eats meat".
There are exceptions (pig will eat anything, fish), but I generally avoid carnivores and omnivores.
Post by: AlanStache on October 21, 2015, 08:40:39 AM
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Nah, that breaks my personal almost-a-rule-but-really-a-very-strong-guideline of "I don't eat meat that eats meat".
There are exceptions (pig will eat anything, fish), but I generally avoid carnivores and omnivores.
Really, why? Not sure I see a reason to make a distinction there-but never really thought about it. Are you talking about an animals 'natural' diet or what the crider on the styrofoam plate at the supper market ate?
Post by: mtn on October 21, 2015, 09:10:56 AM
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Nah, that breaks my personal almost-a-rule-but-really-a-very-strong-guideline of "I don't eat meat that eats meat".
There are exceptions (pig will eat anything, fish), but I generally avoid carnivores and omnivores.
Really, why? Not sure I see a reason to make a distinction there-but never really thought about it. Are you talking about an animals 'natural' diet or what the crider on the styrofoam plate at the supper market ate?
A lot of reasons--ecological, culinary, economical, safety (I can go hunt a deer and know I won't get hurt; if I try to kill a Lion, I might piss it off and end up dead), as well as health. My wife is a Dietitian, and while we don't buy fully into the organic trend, we are somewhat of a hybrid mix of it. The old saying was, "You are what you eat". Now we're saying, "You are what your food eats". We do get some nutrients from what our food eats; it is just a healthier way. I've also heard from folks (asians, WWII POW's, etc.) that cat tastes horrible if it wasn't raised eating rice. Obviously you can't make a blanket statement based on one animal, but it isn't an unreasonable assumption to make. I know that beef tastes better when raised on grass than corn.
Post by: wenchsenior on October 21, 2015, 10:10:31 AM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
Uh...rabbit is a pretty normal thing to eat. Sold in grocery stores and everything.
Post by: KayakMom on October 21, 2015, 10:28:54 AM
Sketch comedy: very little of it is funny. Yeah "more cow bells" is good but beyond that? Really we have kept SNL around for the last 43 years because there was three ok skits in the early 80's?
Big Bang Theory is a below average sit-com.
I whole-heartedly agree about Big Bang Theory. What perplexes me is that I have had more than one person tell me that "I would love it"-- just not very good.
I have not watched SNL much lately but this skit got me chuckling:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/dont-buy-stuff/n12020
Post by: Chranstronaut on October 21, 2015, 10:34:57 AM
I found the main character sexist, homophobic and terribly un-likable. Most of the secondary characters were one-dimensional stereotypes and there was no significant character development among any of them. The book was clearly never edited (some leeway here as it was originally self-published online). The author's use of multiple writing styles and perspectives was inept and distracting. I got the book club tie-in edition featuring interviews with the author. He sounds every bit as self-absorbed and unlikable as Mark Watney because that's purposefully how he wrote the character - his own little Gary Stu.
I am working up the courage to go see the movie because I love the cast and I liked the basic concept. This is the only time I have ever hoped the movie butchers the book because I think I would actually enjoy it then.
Post by: AmandaS1989 on October 21, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
Uh...rabbit is a pretty normal thing to eat. Sold in grocery stores and everything.
It is? I have never seen rabbit for sale in any grocery store where I live. But then again, we go to stores like Food Lion, WM Neighborhood Market and Aldi's. What part of the country are you from?
Post by: mtn on October 21, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
Uh...rabbit is a pretty normal thing to eat. Sold in grocery stores and everything.
It is? I have never seen rabbit for sale in any grocery store where I live. But then again, we go to stores like Food Lion, WM Neighborhood Market and Aldi's. What part of the country are you from?
In the midwest, I have seen rabbit once at an Aldi, and a few times at Whole Foods.
Post by: AlanStache on October 21, 2015, 11:06:58 AM
The book The Martian. I love science fiction, I love space and I've studied a lot about spacecraft/habitat/mission design. Everyone I know recommended it to me over and over, but...
I found the main character sexist, homophobic and terribly un-likable. Most of the secondary characters were one-dimensional stereotypes and there was no significant character development among any of them. The book was clearly never edited (some leeway here as it was originally self-published online). The author's use of multiple writing styles and perspectives was inept and distracting. I got the book club tie-in edition featuring interviews with the author. He sounds every bit as self-absorbed and unlikable as Mark Watney because that's purposefully how he wrote the character - his own little Gary Stu.
I am working up the courage to go see the movie because I love the cast and I liked the basic concept. This is the only time I have ever hoped the movie butchers the book because I think I would actually enjoy it then.
Stand up and walk away from this table right now. :-)
You expected supporting characters to develop in a book about one guy stuck on a red rock? Yes some of it could have been cleaned up but over all it was a stupid 300 page space action page turner with potatoes grown in poop. I have been waiting for gf to get back in town so we can go see it, the movie has got basically good reviews. I would much rather take the stereotypes in The Martian than in Big Bang Theory :-) (but dont recall the sexism or homophobia in the book so dont quote me to harshly.)
will watch the SNL link shortly.
Post by: GuitarStv on October 21, 2015, 11:27:49 AM
Post by: wenchsenior on October 21, 2015, 11:53:19 AM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
Uh...rabbit is a pretty normal thing to eat. Sold in grocery stores and everything.
It is? I have never seen rabbit for sale in any grocery store where I live. But then again, we go to stores like Food Lion, WM Neighborhood Market and Aldi's. What part of the country are you from?
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I didn't mean it was as common as chicken (not mass-produced to that extent), but it would be found many of the Whole-Foods type stores, and certainly at farmers markets. But it's available to a similar extent to bison, duck, pheasant, venison, etc, in that it's a very commonly homesteaded meat. It's also a commonly hunted small game species in all parts of the country. Are you a city-person? Not meaning as pejorative, but just that if you grew up and associate mostly with urban types, then you might not realize how commonly eaten it is in rural areas. Squirrel, I will grant you, is more regionally eaten in the South.
Post by: AmandaS1989 on October 21, 2015, 02:09:17 PM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
Uh...rabbit is a pretty normal thing to eat. Sold in grocery stores and everything.
It is? I have never seen rabbit for sale in any grocery store where I live. But then again, we go to stores like Food Lion, WM Neighborhood Market and Aldi's. What part of the country are you from?
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I didn't mean it was as common as chicken (not mass-produced to that extent), but it would be found many of the Whole-Foods type stores, and certainly at farmers markets. But it's available to a similar extent to bison, duck, pheasant, venison, etc, in that it's a very commonly homesteaded meat. It's also a commonly hunted small game species in all parts of the country. Are you a city-person? Not meaning as pejorative, but just that if you grew up and associate mostly with urban types, then you might not realize how commonly eaten it is in rural areas. Squirrel, I will grant you, is more regionally eaten in the South.
I don't really think of myself as a city person. I live in the county, but we're right near the city line. I live in a small town of around ~20,000. I've never been to a whole foods, as we don't have one in my town. I guess the midwest has more choices when it comes to meat. I've only seen chicken, pork, beef, and fish in stores. I've never seen any of the 'wild' game unless you go farther out in the county and go to someone who shot a deer themselves. My cousin goes to a guy who makes deer sausage.
Post by: wenchsenior on October 21, 2015, 04:30:59 PM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
Uh...rabbit is a pretty normal thing to eat. Sold in grocery stores and everything.
It is? I have never seen rabbit for sale in any grocery store where I live. But then again, we go to stores like Food Lion, WM Neighborhood Market and Aldi's. What part of the country are you from?
edit to fix quote tages
I didn't mean it was as common as chicken (not mass-produced to that extent), but it would be found many of the Whole-Foods type stores, and certainly at farmers markets. But it's available to a similar extent to bison, duck, pheasant, venison, etc, in that it's a very commonly homesteaded meat. It's also a commonly hunted small game species in all parts of the country. Are you a city-person? Not meaning as pejorative, but just that if you grew up and associate mostly with urban types, then you might not realize how commonly eaten it is in rural areas. Squirrel, I will grant you, is more regionally eaten in the South.
I don't really think of myself as a city person. I live in the county, but we're right near the city line. I live in a small town of around ~20,000. I've never been to a whole foods, as we don't have one in my town. I guess the midwest has more choices when it comes to meat. I've only seen chicken, pork, beef, and fish in stores. I've never seen any of the 'wild' game unless you go farther out in the county and go to someone who shot a deer themselves. My cousin goes to a guy who makes deer sausage.
Huh. Maybe you just don't notice because you didn't grow up eating that way and don't have the connections to people who eat that way? Maybe it has to do with my particular subculture of outdoor- and biology-oriented types? I've not been to the Carolinas...it might be different there, though I doubt it because my experience has been the same for all the places I've lived or my husband has lived, which includes MN/WI, Oregon, Arizona, and Texas. We have friends in Colorado, Montana, Arkansas, and Maine, and several states in the deep South who hunt, homestead, or at least track down and buy everything from quail to pheasants to rabbits to bison to dove to deer to alligator to sandhill crane, etc, etc. Heck, I just stopped in at a party last week (a university-undergraduate mixer), and the food theme was 'bring your favorite game meat'. There were about 60 students in attendance, and at least a dozen varieties of game (we brought white-winged dove breasts in a maple glaze sauce... SO GOOD).
So I doubt it is regional. I'm betting it is just more of a food sub-culture thing or a family-traditions type of thing. And now that I think about it, I suspect it is an easy sub-culture to 'fall out' of. For example my great grandparents had a WI farm and hunted. But then, their daughter (my grandma) moved to the city as a young woman, and raised HER family 'cooking' (if you can call it that) the store-bought, highly-packaged type of food that was all the rage in the 50s. So that food-culture essentially 'vanished' for about 20 years. But then, 3 of my grandmother's 4 daughters got back into it. One married a Greek immigrant, who ran a restaurant and had grown up hunting in Greece. One became a food professional, and of course tried everything. And my mom married into a family who happened to be foodie-types before that was a thing (this was the 1970s); none them farmed, but all hunted and fished, and they also would special-order bison, elk, antelope, lamb, ostrich, kangaroo, etc at exorbitant prices for special occasions. Cooking fresh food was a BIG deal in that family. All three of them said a whole new world of food opened up for them (and this was before today's easy-access multi-ethnic varieties).
This is interesting...I'll have to pay more attention to this as I shop around different towns in the future.
Post by: greenmimama on October 25, 2015, 11:06:11 AM
Alcohol
I hate the taste and smell of every kind and it is so annoying when people try to convince me otherwise. I'm a grown adult I know what I like and yes I've tried all kinds of drinks, still hate it.
Post by: Cork on October 30, 2015, 07:19:07 AM
The book The Martian. I love science fiction, I love space and I've studied a lot about spacecraft/habitat/mission design. Everyone I know recommended it to me over and over, but...
I found the main character sexist, homophobic and terribly un-likable. Most of the secondary characters were one-dimensional stereotypes and there was no significant character development among any of them. The book was clearly never edited (some leeway here as it was originally self-published online). The author's use of multiple writing styles and perspectives was inept and distracting. I got the book club tie-in edition featuring interviews with the author. He sounds every bit as self-absorbed and unlikable as Mark Watney because that's purposefully how he wrote the character - his own little Gary Stu.
I am working up the courage to go see the movie because I love the cast and I liked the basic concept. This is the only time I have ever hoped the movie butchers the book because I think I would actually enjoy it then.
Stand up and walk away from this table right now. :-)
You expected supporting characters to develop in a book about one guy stuck on a red rock? Yes some of it could have been cleaned up but over all it was a stupid 300 page space action page turner with potatoes grown in poop. I have been waiting for gf to get back in town so we can go see it, the movie has got basically good reviews. I would much rather take the stereotypes in The Martian than in Big Bang Theory :-) (but dont recall the sexism or homophobia in the book so dont quote me to harshly.)
will watch the SNL link shortly.
I agree with Alanstache, in fact, I thought it was refreshing how they portrayed the captain and the media liason as powerful and respected women in the book.
Where was homophobia and sexism in the book?
Post by: Kitsunegari on October 30, 2015, 09:53:31 AM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
Uh...rabbit is a pretty normal thing to eat. Sold in grocery stores and everything.
It is? I have never seen rabbit for sale in any grocery store where I live. But then again, we go to stores like Food Lion, WM Neighborhood Market and Aldi's. What part of the country are you from?
edit to fix quote tages
I didn't mean it was as common as chicken (not mass-produced to that extent), but it would be found many of the Whole-Foods type stores, and certainly at farmers markets. But it's available to a similar extent to bison, duck, pheasant, venison, etc, in that it's a very commonly homesteaded meat. It's also a commonly hunted small game species in all parts of the country. Are you a city-person? Not meaning as pejorative, but just that if you grew up and associate mostly with urban types, then you might not realize how commonly eaten it is in rural areas. Squirrel, I will grant you, is more regionally eaten in the South.
I don't really think of myself as a city person. I live in the county, but we're right near the city line. I live in a small town of around ~20,000. I've never been to a whole foods, as we don't have one in my town. I guess the midwest has more choices when it comes to meat. I've only seen chicken, pork, beef, and fish in stores. I've never seen any of the 'wild' game unless you go farther out in the county and go to someone who shot a deer themselves. My cousin goes to a guy who makes deer sausage.
Huh. Maybe you just don't notice because you didn't grow up eating that way and don't have the connections to people who eat that way? Maybe it has to do with my particular subculture of outdoor- and biology-oriented types? I've not been to the Carolinas...it might be different there, though I doubt it because my experience has been the same for all the places I've lived or my husband has lived, which includes MN/WI, Oregon, Arizona, and Texas. We have friends in Colorado, Montana, Arkansas, and Maine, and several states in the deep South who hunt, homestead, or at least track down and buy everything from quail to pheasants to rabbits to bison to dove to deer to alligator to sandhill crane, etc, etc. Heck, I just stopped in at a party last week (a university-undergraduate mixer), and the food theme was 'bring your favorite game meat'. There were about 60 students in attendance, and at least a dozen varieties of game (we brought white-winged dove breasts in a maple glaze sauce... SO GOOD).
So I doubt it is regional. I'm betting it is just more of a food sub-culture thing or a family-traditions type of thing. And now that I think about it, I suspect it is an easy sub-culture to 'fall out' of. For example my great grandparents had a WI farm and hunted. But then, their daughter (my grandma) moved to the city as a young woman, and raised HER family 'cooking' (if you can call it that) the store-bought, highly-packaged type of food that was all the rage in the 50s. So that food-culture essentially 'vanished' for about 20 years. But then, 3 of my grandmother's 4 daughters got back into it. One married a Greek immigrant, who ran a restaurant and had grown up hunting in Greece. One became a food professional, and of course tried everything. And my mom married into a family who happened to be foodie-types before that was a thing (this was the 1970s); none them farmed, but all hunted and fished, and they also would special-order bison, elk, antelope, lamb, ostrich, kangaroo, etc at exorbitant prices for special occasions. Cooking fresh food was a BIG deal in that family. All three of them said a whole new world of food opened up for them (and this was before today's easy-access multi-ethnic varieties).
This is interesting...I'll have to pay more attention to this as I shop around different towns in the future.
In some aras of Europe it was really common until a few decades ago, but is falling out of fashion and it's rare to find it in grocerie stores.
Personal anecdote:
While I was working as receptionist in a hotel in Italy a youg America couple came to me with a menu, and they ask me to explain a few dishes. One of them was indeed a rabbit dish ("coniglio alla cacciatora") and the girl goes:
"Rabbit? Like, a bunny?"
Me: "Yes madam, a bunny stew"
She looks totally horrified.
Her boyfriend: "And what does it taste like?"
Me: "It's really similar to cat meat" (true fact!)
The look on their face... I thought she was going to cry.
Post by: FLA on November 02, 2015, 06:08:47 AM
other people's children (some exceptions)
girlie drinks (Scotch and soda on the rocks, I'm not 19)
Post by: Freckles on November 02, 2015, 01:05:23 PM
Post by: Bracken_Joy on November 02, 2015, 01:08:01 PM
Irks me.
Post by: Erica/NWEdible on November 02, 2015, 05:41:22 PM
That's because you haven't tried Erica's "girlie" drinks. She comes up with amazing cocktails that are delicious and strong but not at all silly. http://www.nwedible.com/topics/cocktails/ (http://www.nwedible.com/topics/cocktails/) My very favorite (so far) is the Gin and Ginger http://www.nwedible.com/the-gin-ginger-cocktail/ (http://www.nwedible.com/the-gin-ginger-cocktail/), but I also really love the Marmalade Old Fashioned http://www.nwedible.com/the-marmalade-old-fashioned/ (http://www.nwedible.com/the-marmalade-old-fashioned/). Not that I've tried every single one, but I'm working on it! :D
Ah, thank you kindly for the shout out, Freckles! So glad you like my cocktails! Most of mine are variations on really classic drinks, and I tend to go light on the sweet component cause that's my own preference.
I'd suspect FLA is opposed to the same kind of drinks I am: Jolly Rancher flavored or fake-"tini" drinks or mildly alcoholic smoothies - the kind of drinks where cheap booze is drowned out in sugar. People assume women like these drinks, but I honestly don't know many women who do. All the ladies I hang with prefer a French 75 or a Manhattan to a Cosmo or A Cocoa-tini. And don't even get me started on shots named after sex acts. Ugh.
Post by: FLA on November 02, 2015, 06:53:23 PM
That's because you haven't tried Erica's "girlie" drinks. She comes up with amazing cocktails that are delicious and strong but not at all silly. http://www.nwedible.com/topics/cocktails/ (http://www.nwedible.com/topics/cocktails/) My very favorite (so far) is the Gin and Ginger http://www.nwedible.com/the-gin-ginger-cocktail/ (http://www.nwedible.com/the-gin-ginger-cocktail/), but I also really love the Marmalade Old Fashioned http://www.nwedible.com/the-marmalade-old-fashioned/ (http://www.nwedible.com/the-marmalade-old-fashioned/). Not that I've tried every single one, but I'm working on it! :D
I actually like gin and ginger, I will check this out, thanks!
It's good to have goals, lol
Post by: NewJourney on November 03, 2015, 07:10:44 AM
Babies. Yuck. Toddlers I get, they do funny stuff sometimes and watching them work out how the world works can be entertaining. Babies are virtually brain dead fluid and scream factories. They're like retarded hairless puppies.
Hahaahahahahahaha 😂
Post by: wenchsenior on November 03, 2015, 08:15:05 AM
That's because you haven't tried Erica's "girlie" drinks. She comes up with amazing cocktails that are delicious and strong but not at all silly. http://www.nwedible.com/topics/cocktails/ (http://www.nwedible.com/topics/cocktails/) My very favorite (so far) is the Gin and Ginger http://www.nwedible.com/the-gin-ginger-cocktail/ (http://www.nwedible.com/the-gin-ginger-cocktail/), but I also really love the Marmalade Old Fashioned http://www.nwedible.com/the-marmalade-old-fashioned/ (http://www.nwedible.com/the-marmalade-old-fashioned/). Not that I've tried every single one, but I'm working on it! :D
I actually like gin and ginger, I will check this out, thanks!
It's good to have goals, lol
I just recently tried this, and it was delicious!
Post by: mtn on November 03, 2015, 08:32:46 AM
Once in college, literally all I had was water (and ice) and really, really bad bourbon. So I started looking around and tried a couple experiments--one that has stuck around is vanilla and bourbon--when I got a mixer, ginger, I tried the three together--it was fantastic.
About 1 pt bourbon, 2 pt ginger ale (I prefer verners), and maybe 1/2 tspn of vanilla.
Post by: partgypsy on November 04, 2015, 02:59:18 PM
Dill pickles and peanut butter? Well I guess that's not the strangest thing I've heard of. My grandfather on my dad's side said they ate squirrel and rabbit as kids. His brother would kill them with a pellet gun and he'd help skin them and his sisters would make pot pies or stew out of them.
Uh...rabbit is a pretty normal thing to eat. Sold in grocery stores and everything.
It is? I have never seen rabbit for sale in any grocery store where I live. But then again, we go to stores like Food Lion, WM Neighborhood Market and Aldi's. What part of the country are you from?
edit to fix quote tages
I didn't mean it was as common as chicken (not mass-produced to that extent), but it would be found many of the Whole-Foods type stores, and certainly at farmers markets. But it's available to a similar extent to bison, duck, pheasant, venison, etc, in that it's a very commonly homesteaded meat. It's also a commonly hunted small game species in all parts of the country. Are you a city-person? Not meaning as pejorative, but just that if you grew up and associate mostly with urban types, then you might not realize how commonly eaten it is in rural areas. Squirrel, I will grant you, is more regionally eaten in the South.
I don't really think of myself as a city person. I live in the county, but we're right near the city line. I live in a small town of around ~20,000. I've never been to a whole foods, as we don't have one in my town. I guess the midwest has more choices when it comes to meat. I've only seen chicken, pork, beef, and fish in stores. I've never seen any of the 'wild' game unless you go farther out in the county and go to someone who shot a deer themselves. My cousin goes to a guy who makes deer sausage.
Huh. Maybe you just don't notice because you didn't grow up eating that way and don't have the connections to people who eat that way? Maybe it has to do with my particular subculture of outdoor- and biology-oriented types? I've not been to the Carolinas...it might be different there, though I doubt it because my experience has been the same for all the places I've lived or my husband has lived, which includes MN/WI, Oregon, Arizona, and Texas. We have friends in Colorado, Montana, Arkansas, and Maine, and several states in the deep South who hunt, homestead, or at least track down and buy everything from quail to pheasants to rabbits to bison to dove to deer to alligator to sandhill crane, etc, etc. Heck, I just stopped in at a party last week (a university-undergraduate mixer), and the food theme was 'bring your favorite game meat'. There were about 60 students in attendance, and at least a dozen varieties of game (we brought white-winged dove breasts in a maple glaze sauce... SO GOOD).
So I doubt it is regional. I'm betting it is just more of a food sub-culture thing or a family-traditions type of thing. And now that I think about it, I suspect it is an easy sub-culture to 'fall out' of. For example my great grandparents had a WI farm and hunted. But then, their daughter (my grandma) moved to the city as a young woman, and raised HER family 'cooking' (if you can call it that) the store-bought, highly-packaged type of food that was all the rage in the 50s. So that food-culture essentially 'vanished' for about 20 years. But then, 3 of my grandmother's 4 daughters got back into it. One married a Greek immigrant, who ran a restaurant and had grown up hunting in Greece. One became a food professional, and of course tried everything. And my mom married into a family who happened to be foodie-types before that was a thing (this was the 1970s); none them farmed, but all hunted and fished, and they also would special-order bison, elk, antelope, lamb, ostrich, kangaroo, etc at exorbitant prices for special occasions. Cooking fresh food was a BIG deal in that family. All three of them said a whole new world of food opened up for them (and this was before today's easy-access multi-ethnic varieties).
This is interesting...I'll have to pay more attention to this as I shop around different towns in the future.
In some aras of Europe it was really common until a few decades ago, but is falling out of fashion and it's rare to find it in grocerie stores.
Personal anecdote:
While I was working as receptionist in a hotel in Italy a youg America couple came to me with a menu, and they ask me to explain a few dishes. One of them was indeed a rabbit dish ("coniglio alla cacciatora") and the girl goes:
"Rabbit? Like, a bunny?"
Me: "Yes madam, a bunny stew"
She looks totally horrified.
Her boyfriend: "And what does it taste like?"
Me: "It's really similar to cat meat" (true fact!)
The look on their face... I thought she was going to cry.
Actually I think rabbit tastes like chicken (dark meat). If you are ever in a Greek restaurant try the rabbit stifado, very delicious fall off the bone recipe.
I've never had squirrel but my husband had on a number of occasions. His grandparents are from West Virginia and when he stayed with them it was on the menu. As gramps would say "there's nothing like squirrel gravy." (as in, it's good!)
Post by: partgypsy on November 04, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
Chicken. I got terrible food poisoning a couple times from chicken and so there were years I avoided chicken. I can eat it now in particular if it is cooked at home, but otherwise the last thing I'd order.
Post by: UnleashHell on November 04, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
Disgusting. all you who fell for this are sick puppies.
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 04, 2015, 05:10:24 PM
Babies. Yuck. Toddlers I get, they do funny stuff sometimes and watching them work out how the world works can be entertaining. Babies are virtually brain dead fluid and scream factories. They're like retarded hairless puppies.
Hahaahahahahahaha 😂
Post by: Freckles on November 04, 2015, 09:38:45 PM
That's because you haven't tried Erica's "girlie" drinks. She comes up with amazing cocktails that are delicious and strong but not at all silly. http://www.nwedible.com/topics/cocktails/ (http://www.nwedible.com/topics/cocktails/) My very favorite (so far) is the Gin and Ginger http://www.nwedible.com/the-gin-ginger-cocktail/ (http://www.nwedible.com/the-gin-ginger-cocktail/), but I also really love the Marmalade Old Fashioned http://www.nwedible.com/the-marmalade-old-fashioned/ (http://www.nwedible.com/the-marmalade-old-fashioned/). Not that I've tried every single one, but I'm working on it! :D
I actually like gin and ginger, I will check this out, thanks!
It's good to have goals, lol
Damn straight! :D
Post by: AlanStache on November 05, 2015, 06:32:18 AM
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I've never had squirrel but my husband had on a number of occasions. His grandparents are from West Virginia and when he stayed with them it was on the menu. As gramps would say "there's nothing like squirrel gravy." (as in, it's good!)
Having coffee on the back deck last weekend I counted five squirrels in the yard at one time, if I were inclined i could eat real well for the price of a used trap on Craigslist.
Post by: Parizade on February 10, 2016, 02:56:48 PM
Post by: OmahaSteph on February 11, 2016, 12:14:56 PM
Beer.
Crossfit craze.
Jewelry.
Post by: Frankies Girl on February 11, 2016, 12:35:23 PM
Going to bars. I tried to get into that, but it was just so dull and I can make better drinks at home for way cheaper and not worry about driving home after a few drinks either. I have no idea how people think it enjoyable.
Fancy/expensive shoes and purses. Besides the fact that I would never spend more than $20 for a purse and maybe on a good day $50 for shoes, I think the designer shoes and purses are mostly butt ugly. I hate logo and monogram crap anyway; how stupid do you have to be to pay a premium just to advertise for the designer?
Coffee. I'm a soda (diet) fiend. Can't stand coffee unless it is mostly cream and sugar, and really if I had to go to that extreme, what's the point of drinking it?
Post by: cautiouspessimist on February 11, 2016, 01:10:01 PM
Chipotle. Tried to like it, but it was just so bland and overly rice-laden (holy crap - staaaap with the rice!!) and boring. I've eaten cardboard that tasted better. I'm silently judging anyone that says that place is in their favorites.
Going to bars. I tried to get into that, but it was just so dull and I can make better drinks at home for way cheaper and not worry about driving home after a few drinks either. I have no idea how people think it enjoyable.
Fancy/expensive shoes and purses. Besides the fact that I would never spend more than $20 for a purse and maybe on a good day $50 for shoes, I think the designer shoes and purses are mostly butt ugly. I hate logo and monogram crap anyway; how stupid do you have to be to pay a premium just to advertise for the designer?
Coffee. I'm a soda (diet) fiend. Can't stand coffee unless it is mostly cream and sugar, and really if I had to go to that extreme, what's the point of drinking it?
The only thing I dislike about the Chipotle rice is the fact it contains cilantro...I'm not sure why you think it tastes like cardboard, though. Not that it's one of my favorites or anything, but I think the flavor is mostly going to depend on what toppings you put in it. Also, always get the bowl, because that tortilla is almost 500 calories by itself.
Completely agree on your middle two points, though. 100%.
Coffee? Well, for me it was a survival thing, then it was about addiction. I mostly drink tea now, though.
Post by: Kitsune on February 12, 2016, 09:22:14 AM
Going to bars. I tried to get into that, but it was just so dull and I can make better drinks at home for way cheaper and not worry about driving home after a few drinks either. I have no idea how people think it enjoyable.
This, omg.
My husband loves making craft cocktails (makes his own tonic water, brews his own ginger beer, etc). I love cooking (I make bread, cheese... Pretty much anything). We recently started a batch of wine (thank you, MMM, for the article about helping Canadians save on wine - it's literally impossible to find wine under 8$/bottle in Quebec, and we can make/bottle it for a half hour of active effort and less than 4$/bottle). We garden. We live in the country.
How to spent a September evening with friends:
Option a) invite people over! Set up a table on the deck with a great view of the lake, bring out a few bottles of wine and/or make sangria, appetizers (crostini with whipped herbed ricotta and roasted zucchini, say), make an amazing ratatouille with some grilled lamb chops (all produced on our land), let the kids run around and play with the dogs/lambs/rabbits (rules: don't injure yourselves or each other, flatten the garden, or scare the chickens), finish off the evening with snacks and wine next to the fire... Total cost: MAYBE 20-25$, assuming food and booze for 6, and you can actually hear each other speak.
Option b) go out. Drive the 30 miles to the nearest city. Pay a babysitter. Wait for a table at the restaurant. Spend about 35$/person on food, plus 10$for a glass of wine or 15$ for a cocktail. Shout to be heard over the music and neighbouring tables (who are also shouting). Maybe go out to a (even louder) bar after; 10$ cocktails are shitty and 18$ cocktails are good but ridiculously priced, wtf. Leave when your ears are numb and your eyes burn from the cigarette smoke. Get home; shower ASAP so that the smoke-smell in your hair doesn't infect your pillow for the next 3 weeks. Total cost per person: easily 100$, plus car use, plus babysitter, for less fun.
Serious question: why bother??
Post by: mtn on February 12, 2016, 09:41:00 AM
Going to bars. I tried to get into that, but it was just so dull and I can make better drinks at home for way cheaper and not worry about driving home after a few drinks either. I have no idea how people think it enjoyable.
This, omg.
My husband loves making craft cocktails (makes his own tonic water, brews his own ginger beer, etc). I love cooking (I make bread, cheese... Pretty much anything). We recently started a batch of wine (thank you, MMM, for the article about helping Canadians save on wine - it's literally impossible to find wine under 8$/bottle in Quebec, and we can make/bottle it for a half hour of active effort and less than 4$/bottle). We garden. We live in the country.
How to spent a September evening with friends:
Option a) invite people over! Set up a table on the deck with a great view of the lake, bring out a few bottles of wine and/or make sangria, appetizers (crostini with whipped herbed ricotta and roasted zucchini, say), make an amazing ratatouille with some grilled lamb chops (all produced on our land), let the kids run around and play with the dogs/lambs/rabbits (rules: don't injure yourselves or each other, flatten the garden, or scare the chickens), finish off the evening with snacks and wine next to the fire... Total cost: MAYBE 20-25$, assuming food and booze for 6, and you can actually hear each other speak.
Option b) go out. Drive the 30 miles to the nearest city. Pay a babysitter. Wait for a table at the restaurant. Spend about 35$/person on food, plus 10$for a glass of wine or 15$ for a cocktail. Shout to be heard over the music and neighbouring tables (who are also shouting). Maybe go out to a (even louder) bar after; 10$ cocktails are shitty and 18$ cocktails are good but ridiculously priced, wtf. Leave when your ears are numb and your eyes burn from the cigarette smoke. Get home; shower ASAP so that the smoke-smell in your hair doesn't infect your pillow for the next 3 weeks. Total cost per person: easily 100$, plus car use, plus babysitter, for less fun.
Serious question: why bother??
Option c): Go to the bar down the street from me, get their PBJ deal (Slice of really good pizza, 16oz. PBR, shot of Jameson) for $6 each, get their craft brew of the day for $3, leave a $1 tip per person ($10 per person, you buy it at the bar), don't worry about the smoke since it is illegal to smoke indoors in a public establishment in Illinois, see your friends who also walked 10-15 minutes from the opposite direction.
I'm not ever going to make the argument that it is cheaper to go out and drink, but I see these numbers ya'll are throwing out and wonder if you've ever looked around to other restaurants/bars. I've never paid more than $10 for a cocktail (using Woodford).
Oh wait, I will make the argument that it is cheaper to go out and drink: On Tuesday nights we can get $3 pitchers of Leine's at a bar by my apartment. Good live music too, depending on the day.
Post by: Kitsune on February 12, 2016, 10:01:15 AM
Going to bars. I tried to get into that, but it was just so dull and I can make better drinks at home for way cheaper and not worry about driving home after a few drinks either. I have no idea how people think it enjoyable.
This, omg.
My husband loves making craft cocktails (makes his own tonic water, brews his own ginger beer, etc). I love cooking (I make bread, cheese... Pretty much anything). We recently started a batch of wine (thank you, MMM, for the article about helping Canadians save on wine - it's literally impossible to find wine under 8$/bottle in Quebec, and we can make/bottle it for a half hour of active effort and less than 4$/bottle). We garden. We live in the country.
How to spent a September evening with friends:
Option a) invite people over! Set up a table on the deck with a great view of the lake, bring out a few bottles of wine and/or make sangria, appetizers (crostini with whipped herbed ricotta and roasted zucchini, say), make an amazing ratatouille with some grilled lamb chops (all produced on our land), let the kids run around and play with the dogs/lambs/rabbits (rules: don't injure yourselves or each other, flatten the garden, or scare the chickens), finish off the evening with snacks and wine next to the fire... Total cost: MAYBE 20-25$, assuming food and booze for 6, and you can actually hear each other speak.
Option b) go out. Drive the 30 miles to the nearest city. Pay a babysitter. Wait for a table at the restaurant. Spend about 35$/person on food, plus 10$for a glass of wine or 15$ for a cocktail. Shout to be heard over the music and neighbouring tables (who are also shouting). Maybe go out to a (even louder) bar after; 10$ cocktails are shitty and 18$ cocktails are good but ridiculously priced, wtf. Leave when your ears are numb and your eyes burn from the cigarette smoke. Get home; shower ASAP so that the smoke-smell in your hair doesn't infect your pillow for the next 3 weeks. Total cost per person: easily 100$, plus car use, plus babysitter, for less fun.
Serious question: why bother??
Option c): Go to the bar down the street from me, get their PBJ deal (Slice of really good pizza, 16oz. PBR, shot of Jameson) for $6 each, get their craft brew of the day for $3, leave a $1 tip per person ($10 per person, you buy it at the bar), don't worry about the smoke since it is illegal to smoke indoors in a public establishment in Illinois, see your friends who also walked 10-15 minutes from the opposite direction.
I'm not ever going to make the argument that it is cheaper to go out and drink, but I see these numbers ya'll are throwing out and wonder if you've ever looked around to other restaurants/bars. I've never paid more than $10 for a cocktail (using Woodford).
Oh wait, I will make the argument that it is cheaper to go out and drink: On Tuesday nights we can get $3 pitchers of Leine's at a bar by my apartment. Good live music too, depending on the day.
Ok, to be fair, my numbers are )in CAD (so at the moment, 1$ for me = about 70 cents for you). And a bottle of Woodford costs 48$ around here, last I checked. I have not seen a cocktail under 10$ in a bar in YEARS, and 10$ will get you a (crappy) rum and Coke around here. (And, in my case... I live in the country... I'd REALLY rather not drive 20 minutes to go get a rum and Coke...)
If there was a bar around here that served pizza and a beer for 6$, I'd be all over that, especually if it was decent pizza. However, there are only 2 pizza places within a 30 minute drive: one that's 18$ for a thin-crust pizza that feeds 1, maybe 2 (I can make equally good for less than 5$, in about the time it could take to get there), or one that makes thoroughly mediocre pizza for about 15$ (feeds 3-4). Given that those are my ACTUAL options... I'd rather stay home and cook better for cheaper. Or pay more for better, depending. (Or I could get a 8$ pouting at the local cantine,,which I would still need to drive to, and then I'd get enormous and need new clothes doing that on a regular basis. :))
There are many advantages to where I live, but decent and cheap restaurants are NOT among them.
Fortunately, I hate crowds, so country living suits me. Someone more extroverted might go bonkers, though.
Post by: Telecaster on February 12, 2016, 11:22:15 AM
My husband loves making craft cocktails (makes his own tonic water, brews his own ginger beer, etc). I love cooking (I make bread, cheese... Pretty much anything). We recently started a batch of wine (thank you, MMM, for the article about helping Canadians save on wine - it's literally impossible to find wine under 8$/bottle in Quebec, and we can make/bottle it for a half hour of active effort and less than 4$/bottle). We garden. We live in the country.
How to spent a September evening with friends:
Option a) invite people over! Set up a table on the deck with a great view of the lake, bring out a few bottles of wine and/or make sangria, appetizers (crostini with whipped herbed ricotta and roasted zucchini, say), make an amazing ratatouille with some grilled lamb chops (all produced on our land),
I'll be right over!!
I like going out, but I'm with you. I'd rather entertain at my place than go out.
Post by: SisterX on May 27, 2016, 05:25:36 PM
Weird fact - our babies are all born way too early. Based on our body size and what our relatives (chimpanzees) do, our gestation period should be 11-12 months. Of course then the baby's head would be so big the mother would die, every time. So we make up for our big brains by being born too soon. So that blob of baby really is a blob, because it shouldn't even be here yet. Once they get to be a few months old they are ready for the world.Babies. Yuck. Toddlers I get, they do funny stuff sometimes and watching them work out how the world works can be entertaining. Babies are virtually brain dead fluid and scream factories. They're like retarded hairless puppies.
Hahaahahahahahaha 😂
Actually, this has been shown not to be true. It's not the head size, it's due to metabolism of the mother (http://www.livescience.com/22715-pregnancy-length-baby-size.html). We just can't take in/expend enough energy to keep a fetus growing at the rate it should. And when overall human size is taken into account, we actually have large babies. Bigger than gorilla babies, on average.
As someone who has gestated a child, thank the glorious Flying Spaghetti Monster that babies aren't in the womb for longer. Even aside from the discomfort, not being in control of my own emotions or body was a very bizarre experience. That was what forced me to realize how much we are at the mercy of our hormones.
I am not one of those women who gushes about loving every second of being pregnant.
Post by: RetiredAt63 on May 27, 2016, 06:02:37 PM
So what are the pressures?
Re head size - the article points out that "Human babies are born underdeveloped compared with other primates: Our brains are less than 30 percent their adult size at birth, compared with around 40 percent for chimpanzees, our closest living ape relative. In fact, it would take a gestation length of 18 to 21 months instead of nine months for human babies' brains to reach that level of development, according to zoologist Adolf Portmann's book "A Zoologist Looks at Humankind" " So what I remembered totally underestimated how early our babies are. And for relatives to compare us with, chimpanzees (both species) are by far our closest relatives, so they are the ones we should look at.
Brain size is part of it - young female chimpanzees (i.e. young, not fully developed pelvic girdle) can usually deliver a baby fine if it is term. If it is 2 weeks late, and the baby is just that much bigger, they often die during delivery. That same baby would not be a problem for an older female. We see the same thing in our own livestock, farmers debate how early to breed a heifer, and it is often dependent on the breed of bull (how big will that calf be?). We also see it in dogs - dogs with normal skull shapes have easy deliveries, dogs with flat faces and round skulls often require C-sections. Um, we have those awkward round skulls, shape matters too. So when we think of head size we should be thinking of first pregnancy, and age and level of development at first pregnancy.
Metabolism - sure food supply will be limiting. So is space. We know twins are normally born earlier than singletons.
Other factors, off the top of my head - predation - how mobile is the mother, and how much protection does she get from her group? Even if she can have a bigger baby, it doesn't do much good if she gets eaten first. Parasite load - how is her food intake given that she is feeding herself, her baby, and her parasites (internal and external, biting flies and fleas/lice can take a lot of blood when they are numerous)?
Trade-offs - the last few weeks of pregnancy the fetus is not growing that fast compared to earlier, it is putting on fat to survive the first few days post-partum (mother has to get milk flow going, colostrum is not that nourishing, etc., she is probably not eating well those first few days). Early babies are scrawny. A bigger baby would need that much more protective fat, and that is more demand on the mother.
Not really arguing with the article, its just that in Evolutionary Biology there are usually so many factors that "this is the cause of whatever" is leaving out all the other factors - yes, it's a messy historical science.
And hormones, oh my, you look at your baby with love, and wonder how much of it is your brain's oxytocin making sure you love this baby and your genes get passed on (because you are the daughter of a long line of mothers whose oxytocin made them good loving mothers). We are all puppets!
Weird fact - our babies are all born way too early. Based on our body size and what our relatives (chimpanzees) do, our gestation period should be 11-12 months. Of course then the baby's head would be so big the mother would die, every time. So we make up for our big brains by being born too soon. So that blob of baby really is a blob, because it shouldn't even be here yet. Once they get to be a few months old they are ready for the world.
Actually, this has been shown not to be true. It's not the head size, it's due to metabolism of the mother (http://www.livescience.com/22715-pregnancy-length-baby-size.html). We just can't take in/expend enough energy to keep a fetus growing at the rate it should. And when overall human size is taken into account, we actually have large babies. Bigger than gorilla babies, on average.
As someone who has gestated a child, thank the glorious Flying Spaghetti Monster that babies aren't in the womb for longer. Even aside from the discomfort, not being in control of my own emotions or body was a very bizarre experience. That was what forced me to realize how much we are at the mercy of our hormones.
I am not one of those women who gushes about loving every second of being pregnant.
Post by: FunkyChopstick on May 27, 2016, 06:08:43 PM
- Big Bag Theory. Intelligence isn't comical. Lack of intelligence is.
- Group partying. I hate tail gating, clubs, concerts.
-Pools during the summer. I don't want a chlorine bath with strangers in lycra. Thanks, no thanks.
- Ditto for any of shores on the east coast. The Jersey shore is basically Philly's dirty diaper. People *love* it and I can't wrap my mind around it.
- I hate people that like Christmas too. Sheep.
Post by: RetiredAt63 on May 27, 2016, 06:14:43 PM
For shiggles, things I should like but loathe:
- Big Bag Theory. Intelligence isn't comical. Lack of intelligence is.
Post by: Dee on May 27, 2016, 07:38:10 PM
Post by: G-dog on May 28, 2016, 05:38:21 PM
I like it, the actors are good, I think they make a good troupe, at least some of the jokes are different than the usual tropes...
I liked Community - again good combination of actors, decent writing, but interesting approaches to the presentation for certain episodes (clay-motion, etc.)
Post by: Mac_MacGyver on May 29, 2016, 05:40:57 PM
Post by: Kitsune on May 29, 2016, 07:02:00 PM
There's a reason I live in the middle of nowhere.
Post by: GuitarStv on May 30, 2016, 06:54:44 AM
Asparagus. I want to like it, just don't.
Drizzle with a generous amount of olive oil and a sprinkling of salt and pepper. Oven roast on high heat for about ten minutes until the tips of the asparagus are blackening and crusty to the touch, and the stalk is softened up. Then sprinkle a bit of lemon juice on them and eat.
If you don't like them this way, you'll never enjoy them . . . so just cross 'em off your list forever.
Post by: pbkmaine on May 30, 2016, 07:06:18 AM
Post by: Rezdent on May 30, 2016, 07:34:13 AM
I want to eat them. I like the way they smell, and they look good, so I am always tempted to try again when I'm around them.
Pop one into my mouth, and it tastes wonderful. Then I can't swallow. Just can't. After fifty years of trying I should have learned. Awkward.
Post by: Rural on May 30, 2016, 10:46:23 AM
Post by: Bracken_Joy on May 30, 2016, 10:47:47 AM
Fried chicken (remember I'm a Southerner). Barbecue (ditto). I don't like mushroom, either, but that's because fungus is not food.
....what do you EAT then? The summer I lived with my uncle in Mississippi, I'm pretty sure that's ALL they ate!
(I also do not like mushrooms). Curious- is the chicken and bbq thing a texture thing? A taste thing? A grease thing? Just wondering =)
Post by: Rural on May 30, 2016, 11:29:53 AM
Fried chicken (remember I'm a Southerner). Barbecue (ditto). I don't like mushroom, either, but that's because fungus is not food.
....what do you EAT then? The summer I lived with my uncle in Mississippi, I'm pretty sure that's ALL they ate!
(I also do not like mushrooms). Curious- is the chicken and bbq thing a texture thing? A taste thing? A grease thing? Just wondering =)
Grease and bone with the chicken, grease and taste with the bbq. I will eat my own pulled chicken bbq - I remove the fatty bits and I don't use any sauce with artificial smoke flavor, which I can't abide (Actual smoked meat is tolerable in smaller doses). I pretty much don't eat pork, but I generally also won't eat other people's beef bbq. Other people's pulled chicken bbq is hit or miss depending on the sauce.
As for what I eat? Easy - beans and greens and cornbread, supplemented with okra, hominy, and squash casserole. (Also as much Thai food as I can find or cook, plus many other non-Southern foods). Oh, and venison.
Pork that is used to flavor beans or crowder peas doesn't count (neither does bacon). It's the same principle that makes your own birthday cake calorie-free, you know.
Editing to add I've just realized I don't like squirrel for the same reasons as fried chicken. I think grease is a big deal for me - probably one reason I do like venison so much.
Post by: Cpa Cat on May 30, 2016, 11:44:15 AM
I'm desperately trying to recall any instance of sexism or homophobia from the book. Could you elaborate on that a bit?
The main character likes to make jokes about boobs and there's at least one gay joke. I don't know that I'd say the book contained blatant homophobia or sexism, but there are a lot of moments in the book where I wondered if Watney was actually a 13 year old boy.
I liked the book, but there were moments where I wondered why they didn't just leave Watney in space for being insufferably immature.
Post by: Bracken_Joy on May 30, 2016, 12:10:50 PM
Fried chicken (remember I'm a Southerner). Barbecue (ditto). I don't like mushroom, either, but that's because fungus is not food.
....what do you EAT then? The summer I lived with my uncle in Mississippi, I'm pretty sure that's ALL they ate!
(I also do not like mushrooms). Curious- is the chicken and bbq thing a texture thing? A taste thing? A grease thing? Just wondering =)
Grease and bone with the chicken, grease and taste with the bbq. I will eat my own pulled chicken bbq - I remove the fatty bits and I don't use any sauce with artificial smoke flavor, which I can't abide (Actual smoked meat is tolerable in smaller doses). I pretty much don't eat pork, but I generally also won't eat other people's beef bbq. Other people's pulled chicken bbq is hit or miss depending on the sauce.
As for what I eat? Easy - beans and greens and cornbread, supplemented with okra, hominy, and squash casserole. (Also as much Thai food as I can find or cook, plus many other non-Southern foods). Oh, and venison.
Pork that is used to flavor beans or crowder peas doesn't count (neither does bacon). It's the same principle that makes your own birthday cake calorie-free, you know.
Editing to add I've just realized I don't like squirrel for the same reasons as fried chicken. I think grease is a big deal for me - probably one reason I do like venison so much.
I love how much of a distinct cuisine southern food is =) We just don't have a cohesive food culture like that up here.
It's funny, I'm actually with you on the grease a lot of times. I like *our* fried chicken and BBQ, because we usually make it fairly non-greasy. I don't mind the bones. But I also don't like greasy meats- squirrel, beaver, grain fed beef, extra fatty pork... I'm not a fan. I also grew up on venison and elk, so I think I'm just used to lean game. I do like grass fed beef now, it's a lot less greasy overall.
Which is funny, because I LOVE hollandaise and butter and gravy and... so clearly fatty is not the issue, just the nebulous "greasy". And yet I don't mind pizza grease? Okay, I officially don't understand myself.
Post by: Rural on May 30, 2016, 08:12:49 PM
Fried chicken (remember I'm a Southerner). Barbecue (ditto). I don't like mushroom, either, but that's because fungus is not food.
....what do you EAT then? The summer I lived with my uncle in Mississippi, I'm pretty sure that's ALL they ate!
(I also do not like mushrooms). Curious- is the chicken and bbq thing a texture thing? A taste thing? A grease thing? Just wondering =)
Grease and bone with the chicken, grease and taste with the bbq. I will eat my own pulled chicken bbq - I remove the fatty bits and I don't use any sauce with artificial smoke flavor, which I can't abide (Actual smoked meat is tolerable in smaller doses). I pretty much don't eat pork, but I generally also won't eat other people's beef bbq. Other people's pulled chicken bbq is hit or miss depending on the sauce.
As for what I eat? Easy - beans and greens and cornbread, supplemented with okra, hominy, and squash casserole. (Also as much Thai food as I can find or cook, plus many other non-Southern foods). Oh, and venison.
Pork that is used to flavor beans or crowder peas doesn't count (neither does bacon). It's the same principle that makes your own birthday cake calorie-free, you know.
Editing to add I've just realized I don't like squirrel for the same reasons as fried chicken. I think grease is a big deal for me - probably one reason I do like venison so much.
I love how much of a distinct cuisine southern food is =) We just don't have a cohesive food culture like that up here.
It's funny, I'm actually with you on the grease a lot of times. I like *our* fried chicken and BBQ, because we usually make it fairly non-greasy. I don't mind the bones. But I also don't like greasy meats- squirrel, beaver, grain fed beef, extra fatty pork... I'm not a fan. I also grew up on venison and elk, so I think I'm just used to lean game. I do like grass fed beef now, it's a lot less greasy overall.
Which is funny, because I LOVE hollandaise and butter and gravy and... so clearly fatty is not the issue, just the nebulous "greasy". And yet I don't mind pizza grease? Okay, I officially don't understand myself.
I'm with you on the pizza grease, within limits. I've never had hollandaise sauce to my knowledge, and I'll risk permanent revocation of my Southern card and admit I don't like gravy either, though I've eaten a lot of it.
In fact, I will and have eaten any and all of these things - part of the reason for the cohesive food culture is that all of these are foods that are cheap and easily grown down here, plus several are easily stored over a long winter. I've definitely been in a place where I ate what I had and was glad to have it - biscuits and gravy come to mind. Nothing but a way to turn flour and leftover grease into food, that, and there have been times when I was thrilled to have the grease.
ETA I've just realized we've invented greasy foam here.
Post by: SaskyStache on May 30, 2016, 08:42:12 PM
Inception and Interstellar. Everything points to me loving these two movies, but I don't.
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Post by: Kitsunegari on June 22, 2016, 01:38:19 PM
Post by: calimom on June 22, 2016, 10:00:02 PM
Pumpkin-flavoured stuff. I love baked pumpkin / pumpkin soup, but seriously, who puts pumpkin in their coffee?!
People who like disgusting flavors in perfectly fine-on-their-own things like coffee?
Post by: BlueHouse on July 28, 2016, 09:25:43 AM
Post by: Sailor Sam on July 28, 2016, 10:30:58 AM
I don't like coffee. It seriously has inhibited my professional and social lives. Yes, I can and do substitute tea or diet coke, but it's like people don't trust me.
I don't like chocolate. I've noticed similar distrust and huffy incredulity. It's almost like my aversion makes them angry.
Post by: AmandaS1989 on July 28, 2016, 12:02:47 PM
Post by: dougules on July 28, 2016, 03:34:17 PM
Post by: A Definite Beta Guy on July 29, 2016, 01:34:07 PM
I know it's on another thread, but I just....don't get it :p
Other than that, I like almost no fruit. Watermelons, bananas, and you can keep everything else. I bought a bunch of mangos to force down my throat this week (acquired taste?) but I cannot stannddddddd most fruit.
Post by: Papa Mustache on August 01, 2016, 01:59:09 PM
Going to bars. I tried to get into that, but it was just so dull and I can make better drinks at home for way cheaper and not worry about driving home after a few drinks either. I have no idea how people think it enjoyable.
This, omg.
My husband loves making craft cocktails (makes his own tonic water, brews his own ginger beer, etc). I love cooking (I make bread, cheese... Pretty much anything). We recently started a batch of wine (thank you, MMM, for the article about helping Canadians save on wine - it's literally impossible to find wine under 8$/bottle in Quebec, and we can make/bottle it for a half hour of active effort and less than 4$/bottle). We garden. We live in the country.
How to spent a September evening with friends:
Option a) invite people over! Set up a table on the deck with a great view of the lake, bring out a few bottles of wine and/or make sangria, appetizers (crostini with whipped herbed ricotta and roasted zucchini, say), make an amazing ratatouille with some grilled lamb chops (all produced on our land), let the kids run around and play with the dogs/lambs/rabbits (rules: don't injure yourselves or each other, flatten the garden, or scare the chickens), finish off the evening with snacks and wine next to the fire... Total cost: MAYBE 20-25$, assuming food and booze for 6, and you can actually hear each other speak.
Option b) go out. Drive the 30 miles to the nearest city. Pay a babysitter. Wait for a table at the restaurant. Spend about 35$/person on food, plus 10$for a glass of wine or 15$ for a cocktail. Shout to be heard over the music and neighbouring tables (who are also shouting). Maybe go out to a (even louder) bar after; 10$ cocktails are shitty and 18$ cocktails are good but ridiculously priced, wtf. Leave when your ears are numb and your eyes burn from the cigarette smoke. Get home; shower ASAP so that the smoke-smell in your hair doesn't infect your pillow for the next 3 weeks. Total cost per person: easily 100$, plus car use, plus babysitter, for less fun.
Serious question: why bother??
Can we come to your house? We'll bring the ingredients! You described a perfect evening.
Post by: Papa Mustache on August 01, 2016, 02:16:52 PM
- Tattoos - appreciate their creativity, don't want one for myself, generally not a pretty thing when you get old.
- Loud, overcrowded places - indoor concerts, clubs (earplugs help, logistics, no concerts on work nights)
- coconut
- Being uncomfortably hot and sweaty, can be a migraine trigger for me. Cold isn't a problem.
- Little flying bugs like gnats, houseflys and mosquitoes. LEAVE ME ALONE! However, I love the sound of summer bugs at night like crickets and tree frogs. I want a screened in porch so bad.
- Dislike living in big cities. Traffic, parking, noisy city, etc. I like visiting them though.
- Much of current TV. All of reality TV I think. The manufactured drama and the Kardashians type show.
- TV sports. Being there is better if the tickets were free or cheap enough. Playing the game informally is even better yet. TV sports = 2 mins game, 3 mins commercials.
- Social media like FB and Twitter.
- YouTube celebrities. I watched a couple of videos where people were famous for doing nothing. It is a version of "look at my cool stuff, don't you wish you were like me"? Roman Atwood is the first one that comes to mind. One of our children was watching his video over the weekend. I know I shouldn't care but...
- Chatting by texts. Just call my house phone. Okay? ;)
- Energy drinks like Monster. Tastes like carbonated soap to me. I tried.
- Microsoft Windows - First a Mint Linux fan. Mac comes in second. Win7 third. Other versions of Windows can just vanish for all I care. Microsoft has been good to me. Lots of Windows to fix over the years.
- Selling stuff for fundraisers. Here is a donation. Okay?
- Salesmen who need to turn down their spiel
- Commercials
Post by: GuitarStv on August 04, 2016, 10:13:20 AM
I don't like chocolate. I've noticed similar distrust and huffy incredulity. It's almost like my aversion makes them angry.
:O Are you even human?
Post by: PencilThinStash on August 04, 2016, 02:28:56 PM
Breaking Bad.
I recognize that, at its highs, it's arguably the best show in television history. But then the roller coaster plunges and it'll have 4 or 5 straight episodes of nothing but character development. Then it jumps back up for an episode or two of AMAZING EXCITEMENT before dropping down again for more character development. Put that cycle on repeat...
I made it into season 3 before I got so frustrated that it just wasn't worth it anymore.
I'm sorry, interwebs.
Post by: AlwaysLearningToSave on August 04, 2016, 03:30:55 PM
Pumpkin-flavoured stuff. I love baked pumpkin / pumpkin soup, but seriously, who puts pumpkin in their coffee?!
This reminds me of a story. We once stopped at a small town restaurant to have brunch in the fall. They had a little sign advertising a pumpkin latte. My wife ordered one and the waitress said that the person who normally makes those was out that day but offered to see if someone else could do one. I figured it's just a small-town place and that's how it goes. A little while later the waitress comes out with a beautiful latte in a clear glass mug with whipped cream on top. It looks great. My wife takes a sip and then immediately turns up her nose and says it doesn't taste good. A few sips later she refuses to drink any more. I figure it can't be that bad-- after all my wife is the kind of girl who likes to have coffee with her mug of cream and sugar-- so I tell her to give it to me and I will finish it. I took a sip and it was truly awful. It was not a pumpkin spice latte. It was literally a pumpkin latte. As in, there were literal chunks of pumpkin floating in the coffee and there was no cinnamon, nutmeg, or clove spices to make it remotely tolerable.
That latte, coupled with the hollandaise sauce on her eggs benedict that was basically just a pool of melted butter, made for what is probably the single worst restaurant experience I have ever had. It was bad. We have never returned.
Post by: AlwaysLearningToSave on August 04, 2016, 03:32:57 PM
I don't like chocolate. I've noticed similar distrust and huffy incredulity. It's almost like my aversion makes them angry.
:O Are you even human?
My wife doesn't like fruit. Who doesn't like fruit!?! It's nature's candy!
Post by: doingmybest on August 05, 2016, 10:30:44 AM
Halloween
George Clooney
Post by: Beaker on August 05, 2016, 02:46:55 PM
Then there's this...
puppiesHAVE YOU NO SOUL?!
Post by: Papa Mustache on August 08, 2016, 10:52:55 AM
Post by: nnls on August 08, 2016, 10:34:44 PM
In no particular order:
- Tattoos - appreciate their creativity, don't want one for myself, generally not a pretty thing when you get old.
- Loud, overcrowded places - indoor concerts, clubs (earplugs help, logistics, no concerts on work nights)
- coconut
- Being uncomfortably hot and sweaty, can be a migraine trigger for me. Cold isn't a problem.
- Little flying bugs like gnats, houseflys and mosquitoes. LEAVE ME ALONE! However, I love the sound of summer bugs at night like crickets and tree frogs. I want a screened in porch so bad.
- Dislike living in big cities. Traffic, parking, noisy city, etc. I like visiting them though.
- Much of current TV. All of reality TV I think. The manufactured drama and the Kardashians type show.
- TV sports. Being there is better if the tickets were free or cheap enough. Playing the game informally is even better yet. TV sports = 2 mins game, 3 mins commercials.
- Social media like FB and Twitter.
- YouTube celebrities. I watched a couple of videos where people were famous for doing nothing. It is a version of "look at my cool stuff, don't you wish you were like me"? Roman Atwood is the first one that comes to mind. One of our children was watching his video over the weekend. I know I shouldn't care but...
- Chatting by texts. Just call my house phone. Okay? ;)
- Energy drinks like Monster. Tastes like carbonated soap to me. I tried.
- Microsoft Windows - First a Mint Linux fan. Mac comes in second. Win7 third. Other versions of Windows can just vanish for all I care. Microsoft has been good to me. Lots of Windows to fix over the years.
- Selling stuff for fundraisers. Here is a donation. Okay?
- Salesmen who need to turn down their spiel
- Commercials
I am the opposite. I hate it when people call me, just text me so I dont have to talk on the phone. I wish there was some feature I could put on that stopped everyone from being able to call me.
Post by: LeRainDrop on August 08, 2016, 10:49:42 PM
Post by: nnls on August 08, 2016, 11:02:21 PM
Dating. If I could just jump into a solid relationship without the dating part, that would be nice!
Yes I agree with this as well, I hate the getting to know person stage
Post by: Kitsune on August 09, 2016, 07:22:44 AM
- Chatting by texts. Just call my house phone. Okay? ;)
I am the opposite. I hate it when people call me, just text me so I dont have to talk on the phone. I wish there was some feature I could put on that stopped everyone from being able to call me.
I'm the same way. I will do ANYTHING to avoid picking up the phone if I don't have to. Literally, I've walked 2 blocks to a business instead of calling first.
Post by: mtn on August 09, 2016, 08:34:38 AM
- Chatting by texts. Just call my house phone. Okay? ;)
I am the opposite. I hate it when people call me, just text me so I dont have to talk on the phone. I wish there was some feature I could put on that stopped everyone from being able to call me.
I'm the same way. I will do ANYTHING to avoid picking up the phone if I don't have to. Literally, I've walked 2 blocks to a business instead of calling first.
It depends. Does it require a back and forth? Or just a single response?
I'll get annoyed at either. Don't call me to tell me that there is something on TV or that you saw a dog eat a kids hot dog. Actually don't text me the thing about the dog, tell me in person. Otherwise it is a really stupid story.
Post by: Papa Mustache on August 09, 2016, 08:39:01 AM
In no particular order:
- Tattoos - appreciate their creativity, don't want one for myself, generally not a pretty thing when you get old.
- Loud, overcrowded places - indoor concerts, clubs (earplugs help, logistics, no concerts on work nights)
- coconut
- Being uncomfortably hot and sweaty, can be a migraine trigger for me. Cold isn't a problem.
- Little flying bugs like gnats, houseflys and mosquitoes. LEAVE ME ALONE! However, I love the sound of summer bugs at night like crickets and tree frogs. I want a screened in porch so bad.
- Dislike living in big cities. Traffic, parking, noisy city, etc. I like visiting them though.
- Much of current TV. All of reality TV I think. The manufactured drama and the Kardashians type show.
- TV sports. Being there is better if the tickets were free or cheap enough. Playing the game informally is even better yet. TV sports = 2 mins game, 3 mins commercials.
- Social media like FB and Twitter.
- YouTube celebrities. I watched a couple of videos where people were famous for doing nothing. It is a version of "look at my cool stuff, don't you wish you were like me"? Roman Atwood is the first one that comes to mind. One of our children was watching his video over the weekend. I know I shouldn't care but...
- Chatting by texts. Just call my house phone. Okay? ;)
- Energy drinks like Monster. Tastes like carbonated soap to me. I tried.
- Microsoft Windows - First a Mint Linux fan. Mac comes in second. Win7 third. Other versions of Windows can just vanish for all I care. Microsoft has been good to me. Lots of Windows to fix over the years.
- Selling stuff for fundraisers. Here is a donation. Okay?
- Salesmen who need to turn down their spiel
- Commercials
I am the opposite. I hate it when people call me, just text me so I dont have to talk on the phone. I wish there was some feature I could put on that stopped everyone from being able to call me.
I have fat thumbs. Takes forever to text anything of length.
Post by: Papa Mustache on August 09, 2016, 08:40:01 AM
It depends. Does it require a back and forth? Or just a single response?
I'll get annoyed at either. Don't call me to tell me that there is something on TV or that you saw a dog eat a kids hot dog. Actually don't text me the thing about the dog, tell me in person. Otherwise it is a really stupid story.
That!
Post by: Luke Warm on August 09, 2016, 08:49:28 AM
- Chatting by texts. Just call my house phone. Okay? ;)
I am the opposite. I hate it when people call me, just text me so I dont have to talk on the phone. I wish there was some feature I could put on that stopped everyone from being able to call me.
I'm the same way. I will do ANYTHING to avoid picking up the phone if I don't have to. Literally, I've walked 2 blocks to a business instead of calling first.
i don't answer the phone at home nor do i voluntarily grab it at work and i don't have a cell phone. it some sort of weird anxiety thing.
Post by: wenchsenior on August 09, 2016, 09:35:49 AM
- Chatting by texts. Just call my house phone. Okay? ;)
I am the opposite. I hate it when people call me, just text me so I dont have to talk on the phone. I wish there was some feature I could put on that stopped everyone from being able to call me.
I'm the same way. I will do ANYTHING to avoid picking up the phone if I don't have to. Literally, I've walked 2 blocks to a business instead of calling first.
I also hate talking on the phone unless it is a quick, to the point, business conversation. I prefer to see people that I'm conversing with, so as to observe expression and body language. If I can't, then I want the convo to be slower, so that I can absorb info and adjust emotionally...giving text and email the advantage.
Post by: bye-bye Ms. FancyPants on August 09, 2016, 10:07:23 AM
Babies. Yuck. Toddlers I get, they do funny stuff sometimes and watching them work out how the world works can be entertaining. Babies are virtually brain dead fluid and scream factories. They're like retarded hairless puppies.
OoooMyyyG, BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I hope it doesn't make me a terrible person by finding this statement insanely hilarious. Bless you for sharing! :)
Post by: boy_bye on August 12, 2016, 12:01:51 PM
I don't even answer my work number or check work voicemail. If someone does need something and leave me a voicemail, they always end up emailing within a day or two anyhow.
Post by: Landlady on August 12, 2016, 12:46:26 PM
I know it's trendy now to know the difference between good and bad wine, but I just can't tell and I've given up trying.
IPAs are huge right now in the PNW and I hate them.
I once heard a food critic hailing the beauty of a cheap, light beer like Bud Light simply because it has no flavor and can pair with anything and you don't get full from it. This vibed with me and I never looked back even though I get judged by my classier friends.
Post by: PFHC on August 12, 2016, 04:30:09 PM
Post by: Papa Mustache on August 13, 2016, 09:54:33 AM
And she doesn't leave all her toys around the house. They usually lay around her bed.
She does smell funny though between baths but then so does the teenager... ;) At least the teenager doesn't relieve himself in the yard very often.....
Post by: Stachey on August 13, 2016, 10:02:42 AM
Post by: gggggg on August 13, 2016, 01:06:09 PM
Wine and IPAs
I know it's trendy now to know the difference between good and bad wine, but I just can't tell and I've given up trying.
IPAs are huge right now in the PNW and I hate them.
I once heard a food critic hailing the beauty of a cheap, light beer like Bud Light simply because it has no flavor and can pair with anything and you don't get full from it. This vibed with me and I never looked back even though I get judged by my classier friends.
I also despise IPA's and hoppy beers. It's the rage, but to me, it tastes like lawn clippings.
Post by: Cyaphas on August 13, 2016, 06:18:50 PM
Babies - I have this wierd fear of dropping them. That and basically they're miniature terroists. Do what I want or I'll cry.
clubs/concerts/rallys - too many people, too expensive and way too loud.
Owen Wilson - Never understood what anyone finds entertaining about him as an actor.
Pets - I like certain ones after I've met them, in general though, society has gone pets crazy to ridiculous proportions. Pets aren't people. "Re-homing fee" Fuck you!
Ginger snaps, Oreos, oatmeal cookies - I have a crazy sweet tooth. I hate eating those three cookies.
Hotdogs - Nope. Nope. NOPE! Assholes and eyeballs.
Whataburger/In-n-Out - Both regional 'to die for' burger joints. Whataburger has stupid thick shakes that the straw collapses. In-n-out is just fucking terrible.
Seafood 500 miles from an ocean - let's face it, you didn't fly that in today.
Post by: Aimza on August 18, 2016, 02:19:55 PM
- Little flying bugs like gnats, houseflys and mosquitoes. LEAVE ME ALONE! However, I love the sound of summer bugs at night like crickets and tree frogs. I want a screened in porch so bad.
I think the question was thing you should like, but just don't............why would anyone like gnats and mosquitoes?
For me it's definitely coffee and Chipotle.
Post by: LeRainDrop on August 18, 2016, 04:04:29 PM
Post by: marty998 on August 26, 2016, 05:46:14 PM
- Chatting by texts. Just call my house phone. Okay? ;)
I am the opposite. I hate it when people call me, just text me so I dont have to talk on the phone. I wish there was some feature I could put on that stopped everyone from being able to call me.
I'm the same way. I will do ANYTHING to avoid picking up the phone if I don't have to. Literally, I've walked 2 blocks to a business instead of calling first.
I also hate talking on the phone unless it is a quick, to the point, business conversation. I prefer to see people that I'm conversing with, so as to observe expression and body language. If I can't, then I want the convo to be slower, so that I can absorb info and adjust emotionally...giving text and email the advantage.
Oh thank god...I thought I was the only person who hated talking on the phone.
Work people find it mildly amusing.... My voicemail box is full so they then send additional emails. They assume it's because I'm always extremely busy answering queries for others (which is actually true) but it's really because:
a) I just find voicemail difficult and I don't know my password; and
b) I hate calling people because I feel like I'm interrupting them.
The introvert in me also prefers not to do the whole "Hi, how are you, how is your day, that's nice etc etc" rubbish.
Post by: MoneyCat on August 26, 2016, 07:26:04 PM
Post by: SachaFiscal on August 26, 2016, 10:52:15 PM
Post by: mrpercentage on August 26, 2016, 10:58:03 PM
Bacon. It's weird how people want to put it n everything nowadays, even ice cream. yuck.U freak. Bacon is the shit. It grew in popularity with the lower class because it was too fatty for the rich. But it grew so popular that the rich eventually took notice that everyone didnt want their glazed ham they wanted the bacon... well fuck you rich.. the bacon belongs to the middle class
Post by: lizzzi on August 27, 2016, 08:41:30 AM
Post by: RetiredAt63 on August 27, 2016, 12:14:06 PM
Not sure, but maybe golf. I live within walking distance of two golf courses, and have been given a set of clubs and a bag of golf balls. I have read a book about Golf for Dummies. But I can't quite get interested enough to actually call the municipal course over there and sign up for their very reasonable lessons. What is the matter with me? I should be like all enthusiastic and raring to get started...should at least be trying it, for goodness sake. It's like I think I should want to, but just don't that much.
Golf is right behind boats as a money pit. Stay strong. Remember Mark Twain: "Golf is a good walk spoiled."
Post by: PFHC on August 27, 2016, 05:28:45 PM
I don't like coffee. It seriously has inhibited my professional and social lives. Yes, I can and do substitute tea or diet coke, but it's like people don't trust me.Yep. Especially as a sailor.
Post by: SachaFiscal on August 27, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
Bacon. It's weird how people want to put it n everything nowadays, even ice cream. yuck.U freak. Bacon is the shit. It grew in popularity with the lower class because it was too fatty for the rich. But it grew so popular that the rich eventually took notice that everyone didnt want their glazed ham they wanted the bacon... well fuck you rich.. the bacon belongs to the middle class
I get this reaction a lot from people. I find it surprising how passionate people are about the subject of bacon. It's almost like telling a really religious person that you don't believe in God.
Post by: Zaga on August 28, 2016, 01:43:00 PM
Yeah, I get pretty strong reactions to not liking bacon as well. But my friends say that I'm on okay person anyways since I cook a pretty mean bacon and egg breakfast!Bacon. It's weird how people want to put it n everything nowadays, even ice cream. yuck.U freak. Bacon is the shit. It grew in popularity with the lower class because it was too fatty for the rich. But it grew so popular that the rich eventually took notice that everyone didnt want their glazed ham they wanted the bacon... well fuck you rich.. the bacon belongs to the middle class
I get this reaction a lot from people. I find it surprising how passionate people are about the subject of bacon. It's almost like telling a really religious person that you don't believe in God.
Post by: Dicey on August 28, 2016, 04:43:12 PM
You're both correct. Tell 'em you're allergic to assuage their suspicions.I don't like coffee. It seriously has inhibited my professional and social lives. Yes, I can and do substitute tea or diet coke, but it's like people don't trust me.
I don't like chocolate. I've noticed similar distrust and huffy incredulity. It's almost like my aversion makes them angry.
Post by: SachaFiscal on August 29, 2016, 11:01:07 PM
I don't like coffee. It seriously has inhibited my professional and social lives. Yes, I can and do substitute tea or diet coke, but it's like people don't trust me.
I do like coffee but am very sensitive to its affects. Sometimes people at work would ask of I wanted to get coffee (we have a room at work that is kind of like a coffee shop but with machines to grind the beans and make espresso). I would sometime go and get a coffee, put a plastic lid on it and pretend to sip it while chattting with co-workers. Then I would toss it on the way back to my office.
Post by: mtn on August 30, 2016, 09:31:36 AM
Then if you go with them, just get a tea or smoothie or water.