GuitarStv, I honestly am not sure what exactly you're arguing at this point. I've acknowledged there is always a potential for abuses to occur, particularly when things are kept from the public. But you seem to be advocating the position that because that potential exists, then it's definitely happening in every case, and therefore there's no real evidence against these detainees because it's all made-up allegations by the government or false confessions obtained through torture, bad intelligence, etc. Then you use McCarthyism and Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction as examples, which is both hyperbole and a logical fallacy (see: Hasty Generalization fallacy).
Do the videos made and published by the detainees themselves, bragging about their own murderous acts, count as evidence even though they have not yet been formally introduced as evidence in a court of law? How about the numerous individuals proudly claiming responsibility for the 9/11 attacks before they were caught (and even after in some cases)? How about the video of Daniel Pearl being beheaded and then publicly released by the murderers? Is that also evidence contrived by the U.S. government? What about the physical evidence and documents captured with these individuals, or gathered from attack sites? Phone records, bomb-making materials, burnt underwear with a bomb in it, financial transactions, intelligence gathered over decades, informant information, etc. etc. etc. I guess none of it counts as "real evidence" in your view???
Not to use my own hyperbole, but I'm starting to wonder if you think 9/11, the Tanzania embassy bombing, attempted shoe bomber, underwear bomber, the USS Cole, etc. were also fictions or government conspiracies. I mean, someone was behind those events -- who do you think they are, and where are sent??? GUANTANAMO.
