Sensitivity to my non-white neighbors...advice?

[RosieTR]

So, I've noticed a few Trump signs going up in my neighborhood. As an American, I believe it's their right to put up yard signs for candidates or issues. However, I am also aware that this can make someone feel like those neighbors are a little hostile, if they are a minority. Although I personally support Hillary, for various reasons I'm not sure I want to put up a yard sign. No neighbors have any other signs, neither pro-Hillary nor other candidates or issues. I would like to maybe put a note on the door of a few houses where I know the families are of color or mixed, to say basically "hey, not all the neighbors are into Trump racism, and I hope you feel welcome in this neighborhood. We support you." or something to that effect.
So, would this be weird? Would this be helpful? I know it can be tough to be somewhere where you are "different" and sometimes just having someone reach out can change that, but I also don't want to seem weirdly patronizing or anything. I myself am mixed but most people who just saw me on the street would not necessarily peg my background.

Also, though it can be tempting otherwise, please take any discussion of whether Trump actually is racist to another thread. I'm talking about perception, not debating the candidate nor the motivations of the people who have the signs.

[NoStacheOhio]

I think that's maybe a little awkward. I think a better approach might be to just try to engage your neighbors in friendly neighboring. Get to know them a little bit better, maybe have some people over for potluck and board games. See if anybody needs help you could provide. The kinds of things my grandparents used to do.

[ncornilsen]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

Do you also complain about people not mowing their yard in the pattern you like, or for parking on the street? Does the color of the neighbors trim offend you?

You want to help someone who might be feeling different by pointing out their difference?

You would just come across as a racist (IE, you see your neighbors as members of a race instead of as people...) patronizing busybody.
Just be a neighbor. Say hi. Borrow or lend some sugar. Have a BBQ.  You know, actually be supportive and inclusive of your neighbor, instead of talking about it to make yourself feel better.

[Chris22]

FWIW, of ~40 houses on my block, I've met ~35 of my neighbors.  Of those, probably 7 are not traditionally white, but three of the 7 are Polish immigrants (still white European, granted).  Of the ~5 houses on my block that have Trump signs, 1 guy is 80, couple are white, one is Mexican, and 1 is Filipino. 

So don't presume you know the politics of people based on their skin color ;)

[lr]

How about putting up a sign that reflects what you believe in? You can make it yourself with a stencil kit from an art supply store, or quickly have it printed at your local office depot.

Going door to door to apologize for your neighbors is weird, but might be okay if it's part of a genuine desire to meet your neighbors.

[ooeei]

Sure would be awkward if said neighbors were trump supporters.

[BudgetSlasher]

Disclaimer: I am assuming that these are not people you know or know well and are not in the habit of leaving random notes.

So in one note you could:

A) Imply that all of your neighbors are into that "Trump Racism" and that leaves the door open for being interpreted as "the other neighbors are racism" or "the other neighbors are racist, but I am the good neighbor."

and

B) Make an assumption based on race that certain individuals hold different political beliefs interpret Trump signs a certain way from the rest of the neighborhood 

At best it would be weird/awkward, at worst they look at the Trump signs in a new light and start to view the other neighbors as openly racist and if the other neighbors find out about your note . .  well now you've insulted all of them.

In any case, I am not sure how supportive a simple note would come across especially compared to say actually being friendly/neighborly with your neighbors.

[Lunasol]

Trump supporters aren't necessarily white. I know minorities who support him so that would be awkward like ooeei said.

[ender]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

+1

I find it highly amusing that you would profile your neighbors by their race in order to tell them that someone else isn't racist.

[human]

A few of you know way too much about your neighbours, unless you see something overt not sure why you would get involved. Are the Trump supporters going out of their way to do horrible stuff?

[bobechs]

Hmmm... delegate yourself as the local person-o'-no-color to go around, representing to the p-o-c that you got no Trump cooties on ya?

Ehrr ma garrd. That is......  just.  so.  weird.

[matchewed]

Just be a decent person to other people and ignore others except when they are being direct about their stupid racist shit. If it's assumed you may be wrong.

[Shor]

You could all throw a super awesome neighborhood barbecue, and invite everyone.
There, no one gets left out, everyone bonds.

Anyone that starts spewing political hate-mongery can finalize their differences the old fashioned way: burger eating contest. The only way we can grow together as a community is by struggling together, and those damn burgers are a common enemy encroaching on our peaceful, freedom-loving fries!

[Metric Mouse]

You could all throw a super awesome neighborhood barbecue, and invite everyone.
There, no one gets left out, everyone bonds.

Anyone that starts spewing political hate-mongery can finalize their differences the old fashioned way: burger eating contest. The only way we can grow together as a community is by struggling together, and those damn burgers are a common enemy encroaching on our peaceful, freedom-loving fries!

Great point. Maybe showing your neighbors that you're cool and respect all people would be more effective than simply telling them that.

[Mr Dorothy Dollar]

Speaking as a gay guy. You know that minority that is used to my rights being put up for ballot initiatives and litigation. Sadly minorities know how bigoted and backwards the communities they live in are. The minority will keep to themselves and maybe a few close neighbors. But really all we hope for is to be left alone and treated with the same class everyone else gets.

That said. As a minority person, you know not all people are bigots. You do not need to say you are not. They are most likely making mental notes of who is a rabid Trump supporter. They will stay away and lessen contact. A better way to deal with neighbors feeling unwelcome is to be welcoming. Share extra produce from your garden. See them outside go talk in the front yard. Hire their kid to collect your mail when you are out of town. Snowblow their sidewalk when you know they are sick or out of town.

In other words, don't state you are a good neighbor; be a good neighbor.

[okits]

OP, I think you genuinely mean well and I understand the feelings you think your minority neighbours might have.  It is kind of you to think of others and want to reach out.  I agree with other commenters that the least contentious way to address this is to socialize with your neighbours.  Have a whole bunch of them over to chat and eat goods baked with the current seasonal produce.  Get to know them and be neighbourly.

Mr Dorothy Dollar, I loved your response.

[Goldielocks]

So, I've noticed a few Trump signs going up in my neighborhood. As an American, I believe it's their right to put up yard signs for candidates or issues. However, I am also aware that this can make someone feel like those neighbors are a little hostile, if they are a minority. Although I personally support Hillary, for various reasons I'm not sure I want to put up a yard sign. No neighbors have any other signs, neither pro-Hillary nor other candidates or issues. I would like to maybe put a note on the door of a few houses where I know the families are of color or mixed, to say basically "hey, not all the neighbors are into Trump racism, and I hope you feel welcome in this neighborhood. We support you." or something to that effect.
So, would this be weird? Would this be helpful? I know it can be tough to be somewhere where you are "different" and sometimes just having someone reach out can change that, but I also don't want to seem weirdly patronizing or anything. I myself am mixed but most people who just saw me on the street would not necessarily peg my background.

Also, though it can be tempting otherwise, please take any discussion of whether Trump actually is racist to another thread. I'm talking about perception, not debating the candidate nor the motivations of the people who have the signs.

That's weird.  Just invite them for dinner.

[Metric Mouse]

So, I've noticed a few Trump signs going up in my neighborhood. As an American, I believe it's their right to put up yard signs for candidates or issues. However, I am also aware that this can make someone feel like those neighbors are a little hostile, if they are a minority. Although I personally support Hillary, for various reasons I'm not sure I want to put up a yard sign. No neighbors have any other signs, neither pro-Hillary nor other candidates or issues. I would like to maybe put a note on the door of a few houses where I know the families are of color or mixed, to say basically "hey, not all the neighbors are into Trump racism, and I hope you feel welcome in this neighborhood. We support you." or something to that effect.
So, would this be weird? Would this be helpful? I know it can be tough to be somewhere where you are "different" and sometimes just having someone reach out can change that, but I also don't want to seem weirdly patronizing or anything. I myself am mixed but most people who just saw me on the street would not necessarily peg my background.

Also, though it can be tempting otherwise, please take any discussion of whether Trump actually is racist to another thread. I'm talking about perception, not debating the candidate nor the motivations of the people who have the signs.

That's weird.  Just invite them for dinner.

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner...

[nnls]

So, I've noticed a few Trump signs going up in my neighborhood. As an American, I believe it's their right to put up yard signs for candidates or issues. However, I am also aware that this can make someone feel like those neighbors are a little hostile, if they are a minority. Although I personally support Hillary, for various reasons I'm not sure I want to put up a yard sign. No neighbors have any other signs, neither pro-Hillary nor other candidates or issues. I would like to maybe put a note on the door of a few houses where I know the families are of color or mixed, to say basically "hey, not all the neighbors are into Trump racism, and I hope you feel welcome in this neighborhood. We support you." or something to that effect.
So, would this be weird? Would this be helpful? I know it can be tough to be somewhere where you are "different" and sometimes just having someone reach out can change that, but I also don't want to seem weirdly patronizing or anything. I myself am mixed but most people who just saw me on the street would not necessarily peg my background.

Also, though it can be tempting otherwise, please take any discussion of whether Trump actually is racist to another thread. I'm talking about perception, not debating the candidate nor the motivations of the people who have the signs.

As someone who is not white I would feel kinda uncomfortable if came home to a note like this. I would probably do what people above have suggested, get to know all your neighbours and be friendly and let people know that everyone is welcome in your neighbourhood

[tooqk4u22]

OP - I will qualify my comment that is based on you saying your neighbors placed trump signs only, and not signs with a bunch of racially insensitive or disparaging remarks on said signs.

With that I am sorry to say you are wrong on so many levels even if your intentions are pure.  You imparting your bias on your neighbors and are one considering trump a racist (may or may not be but it is purely opinion), by extension you are then implying that your trump supporting neighbor is a racist (may or may not be but this doesn't even meet the opinion criteria), then you are assuming that your other neighbor who is a minority is automatically not a trump supporter and is not racist (may or may not be).  One has to ask.....Who the fuck do you think you are to be the political police?

How would you like it if someone went around placing notes on peoples door apologizing for your Clinton signs and stating that not all of us in the neighborhood are unethical criminal scumbags (of course it would just be their opinion of you, so who cares right). 

[acroy]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

+1

I find it highly amusing that you would profile your neighbors by their race in order to tell them that someone else isn't racist.

+1
Hahaha!
thanks, this thread is hilarious.

[Paul der Krake]

In other words, don't state you are a good neighbor; be a good neighbor.

QFT.

It can be awkward when people go out of their way to show that they are X or believe Y.

The lady doth protest too much and all that.

[dougules]

What's your relationship like with your non-minority neighbors?  I think you should treat the minority neighbors the exact same way.  If you keep to yourself with the other neighbors, keep to yourself with them.  If you are friendly with your non-minority neighbors, be friendly with your minority neighbors. 

Would you leave a note on your non-minority neighbors' doors?  I think the answer to that question is the answer you are looking for. 

[little_brown_dog]

I agree with the other posters here. Definitely don't assume you know your neighbor’s political leanings because of their race or ethnicity. There are certainly Latino and black Trump supporters and sympathizers, and a few of them could very well be your neighbors. If you find that hard to believe, think about how many women support Trump despite his offensive statements about women. Imagine how awkward and rude it would be to go up to a white woman who supports Trump and apologize for his obviously (note the sarcasm here) ignorant/sexist/terrible supporters when she was minding her own business and not asking for any political discussion. Now compound that awkwardness by letting racial assumptions into the mix. Yikes. Keep your head down and your political sentiments to yourself to avoid embarrassing anyone.

[Mr Dorothy Dollar]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

Didn't the neighbors already imply they are to a degree vile by supporting Trump? When a person's Trump promise (tax rate or any) is more important to that person than equal treatment under the law for all citizens, that person is to a degree is vile towards minorites. In the very least they are unempathetic to the point of being vile. Because when a person supports Trump promises they are also supporting an unempathetic vote for anti-LGBT, anti-hispanic, anti-muslim, anti-woman, ect. policy/views.

A person cannot simply support lower taxes and look the other way on minority treatment to justify still being an okay human because the vote is for all the canidate is and stands for. Thinking only of your viewpoint is selfish, unempathetic, and overall vile. Equal treatment under law is needed well before any minority will buy into tax policy.

[Chris22]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

Didn't the neighbors already imply they are to a degree vile by supporting Trump? When a person's Trump promise (tax rate or any) is more important to that person than equal treatment under the law for all citizens, that person is to a degree is vile towards minorites. In the very least they are unempathetic to the point of being vile. Because when a person supports Trump promises they are also supporting an unempathetic vote for anti-LGBT, anti-hispanic, anti-muslim, anti-woman, ect. policy/views.

A person cannot simply support lower taxes and look the other way on minority treatment to justify still being an okay human because the vote is for all the canidate is and stands for. Thinking only of your viewpoint is selfish, unempathetic, and overall vile. Equal treatment under law is needed well before any minority will buy into tax policy.

Point of order, I'm no Trump supporter, but most of his policies that people get their panties in a wad over are not about CITIZENS, they're targeted at immigrants (Mexican and Muslim). 

I also think it used to be okay to be against ILLEGAL immigration and be for vetting potential immigrants without being racist up until anti-Trumpers decided to make sure everyone felt it was default racist. 

[KBecks]

Pretty much anytime go go putting notes on people's doors, it's weird.

Have a party or something more normal.  Be a genuine friend.  And, try not to get caught up in who's voting for whom and whether that makes your neighbors attractive or not.  They're your neighbors, be kind to all of them and try to have a strong, unified neighborhood.

[dougules]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

Didn't the neighbors already imply they are to a degree vile by supporting Trump? When a person's Trump promise (tax rate or any) is more important to that person than equal treatment under the law for all citizens, that person is to a degree is vile towards minorites. In the very least they are unempathetic to the point of being vile. Because when a person supports Trump promises they are also supporting an unempathetic vote for anti-LGBT, anti-hispanic, anti-muslim, anti-woman, ect. policy/views.

A person cannot simply support lower taxes and look the other way on minority treatment to justify still being an okay human because the vote is for all the canidate is and stands for. Thinking only of your viewpoint is selfish, unempathetic, and overall vile. Equal treatment under law is needed well before any minority will buy into tax policy.

On a certain level I agree with you, but dehumanizing people for their political beliefs is counter-productive at a minimum.  You get more flies with honey than with vinegar. 

[acroy]

Didn't the neighbors already imply they are to a degree vile by supporting Trump?

Careful now with your broad brush you have there.

[Northwestie]

Point of order, I'm no Trump supporter, but most of his policies that people get their panties in a wad over are not about CITIZENS, they're targeted at immigrants (Mexican and Muslim). 

I also think it used to be okay to be against ILLEGAL immigration and be for vetting potential immigrants without being racist up until anti-Trumpers decided to make sure everyone felt it was default racist.

Except that he vilifies plenty of citizens - remember the judge of Mexican heritage?  OR:

1. “President Obama is the least transparent president in the history of this country.”

I refuse to believe the FBI did a thorough background check the FBI did on this n-gger. He is too dark to be my president.

2. “I’m very honored to have gotten him to release his long form birth certificate, or whatever it may be.”

You see how much power I have? i got the only n-gger president to do what I told him to.

3. “I have a deal for the president. A deal that I don’t believe he can refuse.”

Naturally, I believe I’m mentally superior you n-ggers. Hopefully, you won’t realize I’m offering one of the shittiest deals in the history of business and dealing.

4. “If Barack Obama opens up and gives his college records and application, and if he gives his passport applications and records, I will give to a charity of his choice–Inner City Children in Chicago, the American Cancer Society, AIDS research, anything he wants–immediately a check for $5 million.”

If that boy shows me his freedom papers, I’ll an amount of money I wipe my ass with to a little negro organization you choose to champion. If you break it down, Donald Trump’s $5 million equals $91 of poor people money.

[golden1]

Heh, yeah I would not assume that your neighbors are racist because they put up a Trump sign. 

Now, the guy who put the "Trump that Bitch" sign up in my town, I am feeling pretty safe to judge him as sexist. 

[ooeei]

Point of order, I'm no Trump supporter, but most of his policies that people get their panties in a wad over are not about CITIZENS, they're targeted at immigrants (Mexican and Muslim). 

I also think it used to be okay to be against ILLEGAL immigration and be for vetting potential immigrants without being racist up until anti-Trumpers decided to make sure everyone felt it was default racist.

Except that he vilifies plenty of citizens - remember the judge of Mexican heritage?  OR:

1. “President Obama is the least transparent president in the history of this country.”

I refuse to believe the FBI did a thorough background check the FBI did on this n-gger. He is too dark to be my president.

2. “I’m very honored to have gotten him to release his long form birth certificate, or whatever it may be.”

You see how much power I have? i got the only n-gger president to do what I told him to.

3. “I have a deal for the president. A deal that I don’t believe he can refuse.”

Naturally, I believe I’m mentally superior you n-ggers. Hopefully, you won’t realize I’m offering one of the shittiest deals in the history of business and dealing.

4. “If Barack Obama opens up and gives his college records and application, and if he gives his passport applications and records, I will give to a charity of his choice–Inner City Children in Chicago, the American Cancer Society, AIDS research, anything he wants–immediately a check for $5 million.”

If that boy shows me his freedom papers, I’ll an amount of money I wipe my ass with to a little negro organization you choose to champion. If you break it down, Donald Trump’s $5 million equals $91 of poor people money.

Lol you sure did take some leaps in your interpretation there. 

[Chris22]

Point of order, I'm no Trump supporter, but most of his policies that people get their panties in a wad over are not about CITIZENS, they're targeted at immigrants (Mexican and Muslim). 

I also think it used to be okay to be against ILLEGAL immigration and be for vetting potential immigrants without being racist up until anti-Trumpers decided to make sure everyone felt it was default racist.

Except that he vilifies plenty of citizens - remember the judge of Mexican heritage?  OR:

1. “President Obama is the least transparent president in the history of this country.”

I refuse to believe the FBI did a thorough background check the FBI did on this n-gger. He is too dark to be my president.

2. “I’m very honored to have gotten him to release his long form birth certificate, or whatever it may be.”

You see how much power I have? i got the only n-gger president to do what I told him to.

3. “I have a deal for the president. A deal that I don’t believe he can refuse.”

Naturally, I believe I’m mentally superior you n-ggers. Hopefully, you won’t realize I’m offering one of the shittiest deals in the history of business and dealing.

4. “If Barack Obama opens up and gives his college records and application, and if he gives his passport applications and records, I will give to a charity of his choice–Inner City Children in Chicago, the American Cancer Society, AIDS research, anything he wants–immediately a check for $5 million.”

If that boy shows me his freedom papers, I’ll an amount of money I wipe my ass with to a little negro organization you choose to champion. If you break it down, Donald Trump’s $5 million equals $91 of poor people money.

Lol you sure did take some leaps in your interpretation there.

No shit.  On transparency, given that Obama claimed he would have the most transparent presidency ever, and then went ahead and did stuff like ram Obamacare through without giving people a chance to read the bill, yeah, it's pretty fair to judge him on the claim.

[esq]

Anyone that starts spewing political hate-mongery can finalize their differences the old fashioned way: burger eating contest. The only way we can grow together as a community is by struggling together, and those damn burgers are a common enemy encroaching on our peaceful, freedom-loving fries!

Now that right there is fabulous. 

OP - I think your intentions are good to make neighbors feel welcome and included, you are just clueless on how to implement them.  Lots of good advice here on how to be neighborly.  I say if you want to be really neighborly, invite everydamnbody and celebrate the fact that people of all colors, sexual orientation, religion, political affiliation, etc, can all get along.

[Mr Dorothy Dollar]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

Didn't the neighbors already imply they are to a degree vile by supporting Trump? When a person's Trump promise (tax rate or any) is more important to that person than equal treatment under the law for all citizens, that person is to a degree is vile towards minorities. In the very least they are unempathetic to the point of being vile. Because when a person supports Trump promises they are also supporting an unempathetic vote for anti-LGBT, anti-Hispanic, anti-Muslim, anti-woman, ect. policy/views.

A person cannot simply support lower taxes and look the other way on minority treatment to justify still being an okay human because the vote is for all the candidate is and stands for. Thinking only of your viewpoint is selfish, unempathetic, and overall vile. Equal treatment under law is needed well before any minority will buy into tax policy.

Point of order, I'm no Trump supporter, but most of his policies that people get their panties in a wad over are not about CITIZENS, they're targeted at immigrants (Mexican and Muslim). 

I also think it used to be okay to be against ILLEGAL immigration and be for vetting potential immigrants without being racist up until anti-Trumpers decided to make sure everyone felt it was default racist.

Even if for the sake of argument that only a single policy say, overturning marriage equality, is an affront to equal treatment under the law. The fact that most other policies apply to immigrants does not take away from that assault on American values of equal treatment under the law. Any unequal treatment under the law is disgusting. It always has been disgusting and it always will be. Jim crow, slavery, internment camps, and defense of marriage act, were all disgusting. Our immigration policy at the time internment camps does not make the internment camps any less evil.

[Chris22]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

Didn't the neighbors already imply they are to a degree vile by supporting Trump? When a person's Trump promise (tax rate or any) is more important to that person than equal treatment under the law for all citizens, that person is to a degree is vile towards minorities. In the very least they are unempathetic to the point of being vile. Because when a person supports Trump promises they are also supporting an unempathetic vote for anti-LGBT, anti-Hispanic, anti-Muslim, anti-woman, ect. policy/views.

A person cannot simply support lower taxes and look the other way on minority treatment to justify still being an okay human because the vote is for all the candidate is and stands for. Thinking only of your viewpoint is selfish, unempathetic, and overall vile. Equal treatment under law is needed well before any minority will buy into tax policy.

Point of order, I'm no Trump supporter, but most of his policies that people get their panties in a wad over are not about CITIZENS, they're targeted at immigrants (Mexican and Muslim). 

I also think it used to be okay to be against ILLEGAL immigration and be for vetting potential immigrants without being racist up until anti-Trumpers decided to make sure everyone felt it was default racist.

Even if for the sake of argument that only a single policy say, overturning marriage equality, is an affront to equal treatment under the law. The fact that most other policies apply to immigrants does not take away from that assault on American values of equal treatment under the law. Any unequal treatment under the law is disgusting. It always has been disgusting and it always will be. Jim crow, slavery, internment camps, and defense of marriage act, were all disgusting. Our immigration policy at the time internment camps does not make the internment camps any less evil.

You mean the Clinton DOMA?  I mean yeah, I agree with you, it's wrong, but you're screaming about the guy who wants to bring it back is an evil terrible bigot and the wife of the guy who brought it into law and she herself supported it is the refreshing enlightened choice? 

[Kris]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

Didn't the neighbors already imply they are to a degree vile by supporting Trump? When a person's Trump promise (tax rate or any) is more important to that person than equal treatment under the law for all citizens, that person is to a degree is vile towards minorities. In the very least they are unempathetic to the point of being vile. Because when a person supports Trump promises they are also supporting an unempathetic vote for anti-LGBT, anti-Hispanic, anti-Muslim, anti-woman, ect. policy/views.

A person cannot simply support lower taxes and look the other way on minority treatment to justify still being an okay human because the vote is for all the candidate is and stands for. Thinking only of your viewpoint is selfish, unempathetic, and overall vile. Equal treatment under law is needed well before any minority will buy into tax policy.

Point of order, I'm no Trump supporter, but most of his policies that people get their panties in a wad over are not about CITIZENS, they're targeted at immigrants (Mexican and Muslim). 

I also think it used to be okay to be against ILLEGAL immigration and be for vetting potential immigrants without being racist up until anti-Trumpers decided to make sure everyone felt it was default racist.

Even if for the sake of argument that only a single policy say, overturning marriage equality, is an affront to equal treatment under the law. The fact that most other policies apply to immigrants does not take away from that assault on American values of equal treatment under the law. Any unequal treatment under the law is disgusting. It always has been disgusting and it always will be. Jim crow, slavery, internment camps, and defense of marriage act, were all disgusting. Our immigration policy at the time internment camps does not make the internment camps any less evil.

You mean the Clinton DOMA?  I mean yeah, I agree with you, it's wrong, but you're screaming about the guy who wants to bring it back is an evil terrible bigot and the wife of the guy who brought it into law and she herself supported it is the refreshing enlightened choice?

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

[Chris22]

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

But of the two, Trump and Hillary, only one has actively had any role ever in actually trying to prevent gay marriage from being legal.  And she's the one getting the pass.  Trump's "grab her by the p-----" comment was over ten years ago, and still thrown around as concrete evidence of his bigotry. 

It is pretty clear the bigot label is only used by the left to smear the right, and those on the left are given a free pass.

[Kris]

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

But of the two, Trump and Hillary, only one has actively had any role ever in actually trying to prevent gay marriage from being legal.  And she's the one getting the pass.  Trump's "grab her by the p-----" comment was over ten years ago, and still thrown around as concrete evidence of his bigotry. 

It is pretty clear the bigot label is only used by the left to smear the right, and those on the left are given a free pass.

I think that's kind of disingenuous. Trump's comments are part of a much larger picture of his treatment of women. And eleven years ago, when he was fifty-nine years old. Sexually assaulting women is something that was probably "acceptable" a hundred years ago. Or maybe even seventy years ago. But honestly, in the twenty-first century?

By contrast, believing that gay people have the right to marry is something that has evolved over time much more recently. Hell, I knew gay people twenty years ago who didn't think gay people should be able to get married.

[Mr Dorothy Dollar]

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

But of the two, Trump and Hillary, only one has actively had any role ever in actually trying to prevent gay marriage from being legal.  And she's the one getting the pass.  Trump's "grab her by the p-----" comment was over ten years ago, and still thrown around as concrete evidence of his bigotry. 

It is pretty clear the bigot label is only used by the left to smear the right, and those on the left are given a free pass.

Hillary did have the wrong stance on LGBT rights. But she also changed those views. People are allowed to grow.

Trump was a pig about women his whole time in the spotlight including this presidential race. Trump has not changed his views. Trump has not grown.

That is why Hillary gets a pass. Because she grew. Rewarding growth is a way to foster more growth.

[TheInsuranceMan]

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

But of the two, Trump and Hillary, only one has actively had any role ever in actually trying to prevent gay marriage from being legal.  And she's the one getting the pass.  Trump's "grab her by the p-----" comment was over ten years ago, and still thrown around as concrete evidence of his bigotry. 

It is pretty clear the bigot label is only used by the left to smear the right, and those on the left are given a free pass.

Hillary did have the wrong stance on LGBT rights. But she also changed those views. People are allowed to grow.

Trump was a pig about women his whole time in the spotlight including this presidential race. Trump has not changed his views. Trump has not grown.

That is why Hillary gets a pass. Because she grew. Rewarding growth is a way to foster more growth.

Does she get a pass for being the only Presidential candidate to be under FBI investigation as well?  Talk about a lack of morals and ethics, the lady should be in prison, not out campaigning to be our President. 

[Mr Dorothy Dollar]

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

But of the two, Trump and Hillary, only one has actively had any role ever in actually trying to prevent gay marriage from being legal.  And she's the one getting the pass.  Trump's "grab her by the p-----" comment was over ten years ago, and still thrown around as concrete evidence of his bigotry. 

It is pretty clear the bigot label is only used by the left to smear the right, and those on the left are given a free pass.

Hillary did have the wrong stance on LGBT rights. But she also changed those views. People are allowed to grow.

Trump was a pig about women his whole time in the spotlight including this presidential race. Trump has not changed his views. Trump has not grown.

That is why Hillary gets a pass. Because she grew. Rewarding growth is a way to foster more growth.

Does she get a pass for being the only Presidential candidate to be under FBI investigation as well?  Talk about a lack of morals and ethics, the lady should be in prison, not out campaigning to be our President.

This whole thread is about minorities. Nothing you stated deals with that. Move on.

[Chris22]

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

But of the two, Trump and Hillary, only one has actively had any role ever in actually trying to prevent gay marriage from being legal.  And she's the one getting the pass.  Trump's "grab her by the p-----" comment was over ten years ago, and still thrown around as concrete evidence of his bigotry. 

It is pretty clear the bigot label is only used by the left to smear the right, and those on the left are given a free pass.

Hillary did have the wrong stance on LGBT rights. But she also changed those views. People are allowed to grow.

Trump was a pig about women his whole time in the spotlight including this presidential race. Trump has not changed his views. Trump has not grown.

That is why Hillary gets a pass. Because she grew. Rewarding growth is a way to foster more growth.

That's great that she grew.  Why does she stamp her feet and claim anyone who says she hasn't always been a friend to LGBT people is lying and slandering her?

[Fishfindr]

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

But of the two, Trump and Hillary, only one has actively had any role ever in actually trying to prevent gay marriage from being legal.  And she's the one getting the pass.  Trump's "grab her by the p-----" comment was over ten years ago, and still thrown around as concrete evidence of his bigotry. 

It is pretty clear the bigot label is only used by the left to smear the right, and those on the left are given a free pass.

Hillary did have the wrong stance on LGBT rights. But she also changed those views. People are allowed to grow.

Trump was a pig about women his whole time in the spotlight including this presidential race. Trump has not changed his views. Trump has not grown.

That is why Hillary gets a pass. Because she grew. Rewarding growth is a way to foster more growth.

The statement you just made indicates that you are a hypocrite. So, it is okay for her to see the error of her ways and grow, but Trump cannot be afforded that opportunity?

[TheInsuranceMan]

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

But of the two, Trump and Hillary, only one has actively had any role ever in actually trying to prevent gay marriage from being legal.  And she's the one getting the pass.  Trump's "grab her by the p-----" comment was over ten years ago, and still thrown around as concrete evidence of his bigotry. 

It is pretty clear the bigot label is only used by the left to smear the right, and those on the left are given a free pass.

Hillary did have the wrong stance on LGBT rights. But she also changed those views. People are allowed to grow.

Trump was a pig about women his whole time in the spotlight including this presidential race. Trump has not changed his views. Trump has not grown.

That is why Hillary gets a pass. Because she grew. Rewarding growth is a way to foster more growth.

Does she get a pass for being the only Presidential candidate to be under FBI investigation as well?  Talk about a lack of morals and ethics, the lady should be in prison, not out campaigning to be our President.

This whole thread is about minorities. Nothing you stated deals with that. Move on.

You said Hillary gets a pass, so I wanted to get your take on that. 
I'm certainly not a racist or bigot, and I'm a Trump supporter.  I think it's ludicrous to judge someone passed primarily on who they support in the election, without knowing why they support them, which is obviously what the original poster was doing.

[dougules]

I will be so happy when this election is over. 

[Mr Dorothy Dollar]

That's a little silly, isn't it? I mean, I've been for gay marriage since I was a teenager in the early 1980s, but most people I knew back then were totally shocked by the idea. And in the 1990s, it was still an idea supported by only a small minority of people. Almost everyone I know today who is supportive of gay marriage would not have been for one reason or another twenty years ago. 1996 was one hell of a long time ago by the standards of the marriage equality fight.

But of the two, Trump and Hillary, only one has actively had any role ever in actually trying to prevent gay marriage from being legal.  And she's the one getting the pass.  Trump's "grab her by the p-----" comment was over ten years ago, and still thrown around as concrete evidence of his bigotry. 

It is pretty clear the bigot label is only used by the left to smear the right, and those on the left are given a free pass.

Hillary did have the wrong stance on LGBT rights. But she also changed those views. People are allowed to grow.

Trump was a pig about women his whole time in the spotlight including this presidential race. Trump has not changed his views. Trump has not grown.

That is why Hillary gets a pass. Because she grew. Rewarding growth is a way to foster more growth.

That's great that she grew.  Why does she stamp her feet and claim anyone who says she hasn't always been a friend to LGBT people is lying and slandering her?

There is no need to even answer that. I need not defend all her on all points only that she currently has grown to embrace equality under the law. You even admit she grew. She is now a friend of the LGBT community. So the choice is a now friend or an enemy to equal treatment under the law. Nothing you have said removes the disgustingness of unequal treatment under the law that Trump is running on. Your arguments bounce from one losing argument to another.  First, it was that his policies only affect immigrants (no marriage equality). Second, it was Trump is not being treated fairly in comparison to Hillary (he is he just does not grow). Now it is Hillary over claims how friendly she is (not pertinent. A friend that overclaims is still a friend).

My argument has maintained simplicity unequal treatment under the law is always vile. Trump supports those views (speeches, list of judges, RNC platform, running mate). Trump is vile. Supporting Trump is vile because a Trump supporter views a Trump promise (tax cuts, wall, Benghazi, ect.) more favorable over equal treatment under the law for minorities. It upsets some as everyone likes to think they are doing the right good thing, but supporting unequal treatment under the law is always vile. Very few things in life are always bad or always good. Unequal treatment under the law is one of those few things that is aways bad.

[Fishfindr]

So, I've noticed a few Trump signs going up in my neighborhood. As an American, I believe it's their right to put up yard signs for candidates or issues. However, I am also aware that this can make someone feel like those neighbors are a little hostile, if they are a minority. Although I personally support Hillary, for various reasons I'm not sure I want to put up a yard sign. No neighbors have any other signs, neither pro-Hillary nor other candidates or issues. I would like to maybe put a note on the door of a few houses where I know the families are of color or mixed, to say basically "hey, not all the neighbors are into Trump racism, and I hope you feel welcome in this neighborhood. We support you." or something to that effect.
So, would this be weird? Would this be helpful? I know it can be tough to be somewhere where you are "different" and sometimes just having someone reach out can change that, but I also don't want to seem weirdly patronizing or anything. I myself am mixed but most people who just saw me on the street would not necessarily peg my background.

Also, though it can be tempting otherwise, please take any discussion of whether Trump actually is racist to another thread. I'm talking about perception, not debating the candidate nor the motivations of the people who have the signs.

Interesting, although twisted view you have there. I know of a landscaping company in my area owned by a large Hispanic family. I noticed as I approached one of their job sites this morning that they had a large Trump/Pence banner on the back of their box truck. Now, the biased media would like me to believe that all Hispanics must be for Clinton. You would have probably considered putting your little note on their house if they lived in your neighborhood. You would have offended them. Don't presume to think that all people are as close minded as yourself. This is a complicated election for all of us and presuming to know what someone thinks because of the color of their skin seems like a form of racism to me.

[libertarian4321]

Sure would be awkward if said neighbors were trump supporters.

Yup.  Anyone who thinks they can judge a person based on nothing but skin color is a fool.

A friend of ours is a "Hispanic" who's parents were emigrants from the Dominican Republic (he was born here).  He's about the same shade as fellow Dominican Sammy Sosa (in other words, he's black).

He's also an Evangelical Christian/social conservative and a hard core Republican.

He and his Mexican-American wife think Trump walks on water.  I've been shut down every time I try to convince them to vote for the only decent candidate, Libertarian Governor Gary Johnson.  And a mere mention of Hillary will set him off on a tirade (and not a positive one).

I'd love to be a fly on the wall if some guilty white liberal came to his house to "share feelings" about how Trump is a racist, and how that white knight liberal, was going to save those poor minorities from Trump's "evil racism" lol.

[libertarian4321]

So you think it's appropriate to imply to your neighbor that your other neighbors are racist?

Didn't the neighbors already imply they are to a degree vile by supporting Trump?

Your first response on this thread was good, then you drove off the rails.

No, a "Trump" sign does not imply people are "vile or racist."

As I said in my previous post, there are minority folks who support Trump.  Those folks may be Trump supporters, but they are good people, the kind of people most of us would love to have as neighbors.  They are NOT "vile" just because they support Trump.  They both give tons of time to charity (and would give money, if they had any to give).  The guy is the type who volunteers to mow the lawn of older folks on his block. 

He's not "vile" and he's for damned sure not racist.

He just doesn't subscribe to your liberal political views.  Or my Libertarian political views.  But I would never call a person "vile" just because he doesn't agree with me on politics or religion. 

You might want to consider taking a less judgmental stance yourself. 

Get to know people before you decide to hate them...

BTW, the only "Trump" sign on my street is on the lawn of a Hispanic (Mexican American) family.  They are also a good people and good neighbors.