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« Reply #800 on: March 18, 2025, 12:41:32 PM »
Saw this on Reddit, supposedly in Alabama

No one that I have heard of is against immigrants getting jobs in the USA

Um...... I'm confused.

What part are you confused about?  Elon Musk is a legal US immigrant.

You said no one you've heard of is against immigrants getting jobs in America. That's kind of a good portion of Trump's rhetoric.....
It's simple, really: They don't want illegal immigrants getting jobs, and they don't want any immigrant to be legal.

Given the Republican stance of making all immigration harder and increasing the amount of immigration called illegal - yeah.  This sounds about right.  To be fair, white immigrants (like Musk) typically get looked upon more favourably than non-white immigrants.

Yeah, we shouldn't forget that Trump 2.0 is offering "gold card" visas to people paying the $5 million fee for it. And that Trump 1.0 infamously said how he likes immigrants from countries like Norway, Sweden (i.e., mostly white), and that we just had to keep people out from the "shithole" countries (i.e. non-white). Also GuitarStv, my spell-checker is pointing out that "favourably" should be spelled the proper American way, "favorably." ;-) Although at this point I'm more likely to accept Canadian ways of doing things than American.

Did you guys deport the 'u's from colour, neighbour, favourably, honour, valour too or something?  :P

No, George Washington wisely proclaimed that we would drop the British way of spelling words with a "u" (except for "glamour"). This historical reenactment explains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqfVE-fykk

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« Reply #801 on: March 18, 2025, 12:46:48 PM »
Saw this on Reddit, supposedly in Alabama

No one that I have heard of is against immigrants getting jobs in the USA

Um...... I'm confused.

What part are you confused about?  Elon Musk is a legal US immigrant.

You said no one you've heard of is against immigrants getting jobs in America. That's kind of a good portion of Trump's rhetoric.....
It's simple, really: They don't want illegal immigrants getting jobs, and they don't want any immigrant to be legal.

Given the Republican stance of making all immigration harder and increasing the amount of immigration called illegal - yeah.  This sounds about right.  To be fair, white immigrants (like Musk) typically get looked upon more favourably than non-white immigrants.

Yeah, we shouldn't forget that Trump 2.0 is offering "gold card" visas to people paying the $5 million fee for it. And that Trump 1.0 infamously said how he likes immigrants from countries like Norway, Sweden (i.e., mostly white), and that we just had to keep people out from the "shithole" countries (i.e. non-white). Also GuitarStv, my spell-checker is pointing out that "favourably" should be spelled the proper American way, "favorably." ;-) Although at this point I'm more likely to accept Canadian ways of doing things than American.

Did you guys deport the 'u's from colour, neighbour, favourably, honour, valour too or something?  :P

No, George Washington wisely proclaimed that we would drop the British way of spelling words with a "u" (except for "glamour"). This historical reenactment explains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqfVE-fykk

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« Reply #802 on: March 18, 2025, 02:43:13 PM »
Trivia, the US is the only English speaking country that pronounces the letter z as zee instead of zed.  So I'm sure you understand that it is hard to accept the lazy spelling (no u) of a country that can't even pronounce a letter correctly.   ;-)

Re SS and Medicaid.   What better way to have women leave the job market than to dump elder-care on them?  Because historically it was women (daughters and daughters-in-law) who did that work.  And they will be too exhausted to protest social change.  Win-win-win.

I am very suspicious that this is exactly the goal.

Vance was very clear during the campaign that "post-menopausal women" (his creepy way of describing grandmothers) are the key to beating the high cost of childcare while also mashing the "women need to have more babies" button.

In his ideal world women start having babies at what, 20?  So when daughter has her first baby Mom is maybe 42?  Definitely still working and definitely not post-menopausal.  Boy math.

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« Reply #803 on: March 18, 2025, 03:03:00 PM »

No, George Washington wisely proclaimed that we would drop the British way of spelling words with a "u" (except for "glamour"). This historical reenactment explains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqfVE-fykk

Needed that laugh.  :)

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« Reply #804 on: March 18, 2025, 04:05:35 PM »
Oh dear, the Tesla fires are now investigated as possible terrorism - you may want to remove yourself and your family from this calamity by selling your Tesla ASAP.

Be safe out there and do the right thing:


FBI investigates blazes at Las Vegas Tesla showroom as potential terrorism
Federal law enforcement is looking into at least three other Molotov cocktail incidents at Tesla showrooms across US

Spencer Evans, a special agent with the FBI’s joint terrorism task force, said at the press conference that the Tesla fires were initially being investigated for arson, but now are being considered for possible terrorism.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/las-vegas-tesla-fire-fbi-investigation

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« Reply #805 on: March 18, 2025, 04:22:59 PM »

Did you guys deport the 'u's from colour, neighbour, favourably, honour, valour too or something?  :P

No.  You've got it wrong.  The 'u'-less words have a completely different meaning in American English and that's really where the confusion lies for the rest of us.

"The USA will honor its trade and defence treaties it has signed with its allies" apparently means exactly the opposite of what it would if "honor" were replaced with "honour".

For reference:

Color = DEI
Favorably = Russian
Valor = MAGA Hero (except if relating to a person of colour, then see 'Color')
Neighbor = Invasion target

I hope that helps.

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« Reply #806 on: March 18, 2025, 05:10:46 PM »

Did you guys deport the 'u's from colour, neighbour, favourably, honour, valour too or something?  :P

No.  You've got it wrong.  The 'u'-less words have a completely different meaning in American English and that's really where the confusion lies for the rest of us.

"The USA will honor its trade and defence treaties it has signed with its allies" apparently means exactly the opposite of what it would if "honor" were replaced with "honour".

For reference:

Color = DEI
Favorably = Russian
Valor = MAGA Hero (except if relating to a person of colour, then see 'Color')
Neighbor = Invasion target

I hope that helps.
 

So American is not English, totally different language.   Got it.

Aah, like English rampant and French rampant.  The same word with different meanings caused quite a brouhaha in Quebec several years ago.

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« Reply #807 on: March 18, 2025, 08:20:44 PM »
Elon still pushing and boosting the claim that every SSA entry in their database is receiving a check.

https://x.com/Shayan86/status/1900242150115156291

And the sociopath retweeted this earlier today.

https://x.com/billdmccarthy/status/1900189713505337845?t=yYsad5kT6s1VNpRDyoS9dw&s=19

In DOGE-adjacent news, Elon's board, friends, and family (and there's a Venn diagram for that) have been dumping their Tesla shares.

https://electrek.co/2025/02/06/tesla-cfo-chairwoman-and-elons-brother-sold-tens-of-millions-worth-of-tsla-stocks/

https://electrek.co/2025/03/10/tesla-tsla-insider-trading-elons-friend-james-murdoch-just-unloaded-13-million/

He's a fucking monster, and this is starting to make me seriously consider the option of putting together bug out bags.

Also in other cheery news, I had heard that the GOP was interested in passing this type of law nationally, but I had not heard that New Hampshire (!) had actually passed it!  Incredible vote suppression technique on poor people and married women.

https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2025-03-11/nhs-new-id-requirements-send-some-would-be-voters-home-to-grab-passports-birth-certificates


They do not want women to vote, and they hope to install the SAVE ACT across the country. In their ideal world, one many from each household would vote for the family.


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« Reply #808 on: March 18, 2025, 08:26:58 PM »
Musk went on Rogan a few weeks ago and said that empathy was bad.

Now with stock falling and multiple Tesla dealership protests he’s tweeted multiple times complaining that he’s never hurt anyone “physically”, and wants empathy for his humble car company.

It’s working.

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« Reply #809 on: March 18, 2025, 08:37:07 PM »
I was just given an invitation to share my feedback on my Tesla in the app.  I normally ignore such things.  I shared a whole lot of opinions this time, and very little had to do with the car. 

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« Reply #810 on: March 18, 2025, 08:39:30 PM »
Musk changed the wording on the USAID website.

Must was being investigated--not Ukraine.

Thankfully, I took a screenshot before he changed the website to say Ukraine was being investigated.

Musk was being investigated, which is why he fired the USAID inspector general and attacked USAID first among all the US agencies. USAID does/did not spend a lot of US budget. Starting to dismantle them (and cover their signs with paper--really, dude?) made no sense until I learned that USAID was investigating Musk for providing Starlink to Russia.

Ah, then I saw that Musk was on a revenge tour...

The idea of Ukraine giving Starlink to the enemy that invaded them in 2014 and stole their land and then bombed them for years and stole more land is, um, hard to believe to say the least.

Trump and co are also erasing history on websites. They've erased info about the US Army heroes of Japanese heritage, women from NASA, esteemed black soldiers.

My point is that they easily erase what they don't want to see and Musk did the same with the OIG statement announcing they were investigating Musk.



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« Reply #811 on: March 18, 2025, 08:40:42 PM »
Musk went on Rogan a few weeks ago and said that empathy was bad.

Now with stock falling and multiple Tesla dealership protests he’s tweeted multiple times complaining that he’s never hurt anyone “physically”, and wants empathy for his humble car company.

It’s working.

He was on Fox tonight expecting the public to feel sorry for him.

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« Reply #812 on: March 18, 2025, 08:43:03 PM »
Musk changed the wording on the USAID website.

Must was being investigated--not Ukraine.

Thankfully, I took a screenshot before he changed the website to say Ukraine was being investigated.

Musk was being investigated, which is why he fired the USAID inspector general and attacked USAID first among all the US agencies. USAID does/did not spend a lot of US budget. Starting to dismantle them (and cover their signs with paper--really, dude?) made no sense until I learned that USAID was investigating Musk for providing Starlink to Russia.

Ah, then I saw that Musk was on a revenge tour...

The idea of Ukraine giving Starlink to the enemy that invaded them in 2014 and stole their land and then bombed them for years and stole more land is, um, hard to believe to say the least.

Trump and co are also erasing history on websites. They've erased info about the US Army heroes of Japanese heritage, women from NASA, esteemed black soldiers.

My point is that they easily erase what they don't want to see and Musk did the same with the OIG statement announcing they were investigating Musk.

It's almost as if they are behaving like fascists.

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« Reply #813 on: March 18, 2025, 09:34:04 PM »
Musk went on Rogan a few weeks ago and said that empathy was bad.

Now with stock falling and multiple Tesla dealership protests he’s tweeted multiple times complaining that he’s never hurt anyone “physically”, and wants empathy for his humble car company.

It’s working.

He was on Fox tonight expecting the public to feel sorry for him.

Supposedly defacing/destroying a Tesla or protesting a dealership is violent leftist terrorism, while January 6 was just enthusiastic, armed Trump supporters visiting the capitol.

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« Reply #814 on: March 19, 2025, 07:43:53 AM »
Musk went on Rogan a few weeks ago and said that empathy was bad.

Now with stock falling and multiple Tesla dealership protests he’s tweeted multiple times complaining that he’s never hurt anyone “physically”, and wants empathy for his humble car company.

It’s working.

He was on Fox tonight expecting the public to feel sorry for him.

Supposedly defacing/destroying a Tesla or protesting a dealership is violent leftist terrorism, while January 6 was just enthusiastic, armed Trump supporters visiting the capitol.

Yep.  They've actually moved Nancy Pelosi's desk to the WC so that visitors can shit on it more comfortably now.

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« Reply #815 on: March 19, 2025, 09:54:40 AM »

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« Reply #816 on: March 19, 2025, 10:59:46 AM »
I think this has been mentioned before, but a summary of all the times that the DOGE wall of receipts had mistakes or made up items as their top savings:
https://bsky.app/profile/fahrenthold.bsky.social/post/3lko5dmu4qc2a

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« Reply #817 on: March 19, 2025, 11:11:52 AM »
I think this has been mentioned before, but a summary of all the times that the DOGE wall of receipts had mistakes or made up items as their top savings:
https://bsky.app/profile/fahrenthold.bsky.social/post/3lko5dmu4qc2a

We have a separate thread for it, lol

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« Reply #818 on: March 19, 2025, 11:19:35 AM »
Do they think the starving red hats are going to quietly go away when their SS dries up?

I suspect that this message is aimed at convincing young people to become MAGA.

Back when we were young, Gen X also saw social security taxes as funding something we might never get.  We'd gripe about it, but without an outlet we shrugged and the world went on.  Now Gen Z has a political party inviting them to join them in demonizing social security.

Well, that might be a miscalculation as the demise of SS and Medicare/Medicaid/CHIP would place a serious burden on younger generations that has never had to think about having their elderly relatives become en masse financially dependent on them.

It is sometimes ignored that entitlement programs that keep seniors fed, sheltered and cared for are of immediate benefit to many who are paying payroll taxes.

Add to that the removal of trillions, that tend to be spent in local economies, from the economy and it's clear that the ripple effects are going to be dramatic - particularly in rural areas.

Yup. Two huge problems that I see with young people wanting to do away with SS and Medicaid is that they don't realize the monumental financial and/or caregiving burden that would fall on them if that were actually done.

It's really scary how many people have no idea just how expensive care for the elderly (at home or in nursing homes) actually is... Medicaid covers most of that.

Tell young people that they suddenly will need to physically care for aging parents and grandparents or else foot bills between 5K and 15K a month for someone else to do it and watch how fast the idea of cutting it to slightly increase their take-home pay evaporates.


I totally agree.  I'd add that they probably don't realize how just likely it is that their parents will need constant care in their later years.  It's someone else's problem, until it's your problem.

Or think of those people who think SSDI is a scam.  But if they were to need it, as meager as it is, they'd be happy it is there.

It seems like these, typically young, inexperienced people are easy prey for MAGA. 

To bring this back to Musk, he says "The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy" (on Rogan) and that people who benefit from federal programs are the "parasite class" (on X).  This is sick, especially coming from the richest person in the world.





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« Reply #819 on: March 19, 2025, 11:49:04 AM »
Do they think the starving red hats are going to quietly go away when their SS dries up?

I suspect that this message is aimed at convincing young people to become MAGA.

Back when we were young, Gen X also saw social security taxes as funding something we might never get.  We'd gripe about it, but without an outlet we shrugged and the world went on.  Now Gen Z has a political party inviting them to join them in demonizing social security.

Well, that might be a miscalculation as the demise of SS and Medicare/Medicaid/CHIP would place a serious burden on younger generations that has never had to think about having their elderly relatives become en masse financially dependent on them.

It is sometimes ignored that entitlement programs that keep seniors fed, sheltered and cared for are of immediate benefit to many who are paying payroll taxes.

Add to that the removal of trillions, that tend to be spent in local economies, from the economy and it's clear that the ripple effects are going to be dramatic - particularly in rural areas.

Yup. Two huge problems that I see with young people wanting to do away with SS and Medicaid is that they don't realize the monumental financial and/or caregiving burden that would fall on them if that were actually done.

It's really scary how many people have no idea just how expensive care for the elderly (at home or in nursing homes) actually is... Medicaid covers most of that.

Tell young people that they suddenly will need to physically care for aging parents and grandparents or else foot bills between 5K and 15K a month for someone else to do it and watch how fast the idea of cutting it to slightly increase their take-home pay evaporates.


I totally agree.  I'd add that they probably don't realize how just likely it is that their parents will need constant care in their later years.  It's someone else's problem, until it's your problem.

Or think of those people who think SSDI is a scam.  But if they were to need it, as meager as it is, they'd be happy it is there.

It seems like these, typically young, inexperienced people are easy prey for MAGA. 

To bring this back to Musk, he says "The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy" (on Rogan) and that people who benefit from federal programs are the "parasite class" (on X).  This is sick, especially coming from the richest person in the world.

…who DEPENDS ON FEDERAL PROGRAMS

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« Reply #820 on: March 19, 2025, 12:44:27 PM »
…who DEPENDS ON FEDERAL PROGRAMS

THIS!!

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« Reply #821 on: March 19, 2025, 12:54:15 PM »
He is a sociopath right? Isn't empathy one of those emotions that are learned not innate?

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« Reply #822 on: March 19, 2025, 01:30:00 PM »
DOGE walked into US Institute for Peace yesterday with police escort. Allegedly the building's security stepped aside because DOGE threatened to delete all of their federal contracts.

https://bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3lkqtk3t2hk2i

https://bsky.app/profile/annabower.bsky.social/post/3lkqsqm4n4k2n

https://bsky.app/profile/annabower.bsky.social/post/3lkqtvxkk4k2k

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lkqia7po5c2a
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« Reply #823 on: March 19, 2025, 01:46:28 PM »
And DOGE will probably delete all their contracts anyhow - right?

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« Reply #824 on: March 19, 2025, 02:07:50 PM »
Do they think the starving red hats are going to quietly go away when their SS dries up?

I suspect that this message is aimed at convincing young people to become MAGA.

Back when we were young, Gen X also saw social security taxes as funding something we might never get.  We'd gripe about it, but without an outlet we shrugged and the world went on.  Now Gen Z has a political party inviting them to join them in demonizing social security.

Well, that might be a miscalculation as the demise of SS and Medicare/Medicaid/CHIP would place a serious burden on younger generations that has never had to think about having their elderly relatives become en masse financially dependent on them.

It is sometimes ignored that entitlement programs that keep seniors fed, sheltered and cared for are of immediate benefit to many who are paying payroll taxes.

Add to that the removal of trillions, that tend to be spent in local economies, from the economy and it's clear that the ripple effects are going to be dramatic - particularly in rural areas.

Yup. Two huge problems that I see with young people wanting to do away with SS and Medicaid is that they don't realize the monumental financial and/or caregiving burden that would fall on them if that were actually done.

It's really scary how many people have no idea just how expensive care for the elderly (at home or in nursing homes) actually is... Medicaid covers most of that.

Tell young people that they suddenly will need to physically care for aging parents and grandparents or else foot bills between 5K and 15K a month for someone else to do it and watch how fast the idea of cutting it to slightly increase their take-home pay evaporates.


I totally agree.  I'd add that they probably don't realize how just likely it is that their parents will need constant care in their later years.  It's someone else's problem, until it's your problem.

Or think of those people who think SSDI is a scam.  But if they were to need it, as meager as it is, they'd be happy it is there.

It seems like these, typically young, inexperienced people are easy prey for MAGA. 

To bring this back to Musk, he says "The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy" (on Rogan) and that people who benefit from federal programs are the "parasite class" (on X).  This is sick, especially coming from the richest person in the world.

…who DEPENDS ON FEDERAL PROGRAMS

bUt ElOn MuSk Is SaViNg ThE eNvIrOnMeNt WiTh tEsLa !! He'S nOt A lEeCh !!

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« Reply #825 on: March 19, 2025, 02:18:28 PM »
This is SO GOOD. This is a 12-minute rant by Tim Dillon (don't know who that is, possibly a comedian) calling out Musk for his out-of-touch, harmful actions. The important thing is he's pointing out how unpopular Musk's actions and philosophy are with the REPUBLICAN voters whom he'll be affecting with his chainsaw.

"Nice to see an actual independent thinker in the Roganverse who isn't scared to speak against the insanity" (I don't know why he's in the Roganverse supposedly, I assume this is his own podcast)

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/1je3zss/tim_dillons_unfiltered_take_on_elon_musk/

« Last Edit: March 19, 2025, 03:04:35 PM by Fru-Gal »

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« Reply #826 on: March 19, 2025, 03:14:00 PM »
Judge Howell does not allow a restraining order against DOGE despite being horrified at DOGE using threats, coercion, and essentially gunpoint to get in the door. Another hearing tomorrow.

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lkqz2p7mtc2x

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« Reply #827 on: March 20, 2025, 11:03:04 AM »
Senate Republicans (a couple of them anyways) to Elon: please stop talking about Social Security

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5204263-senate-republicans-elon-musk-social-security/

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« Reply #828 on: March 20, 2025, 02:39:22 PM »
Judge tells DOGE they cannot access personal information at the SSA and to delete anything they've already pulled.

Paraphrasing: "DOGE has shown more concern and care about the identities of their own members than the millions of records they want access to."

https://x.com/chrisgeidner/status/1902811446985265162?s=46&t=LW5bfaJ3Q5CiuE5gtk6oxw

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« Reply #829 on: March 20, 2025, 05:27:18 PM »
Are Trump and Elon just operating on a break rules and ask for forgiveness later model? That is what it feels like.

This entire escapade tells me that Trump thinks the Republicans are going to lose the midterms and as a result they have to try and do as much as possible in two years.

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« Reply #830 on: March 20, 2025, 05:33:58 PM »
Are Trump and Elon just operating on a break rules and ask for forgiveness later model? That is what it feels like.


Literally Elon's business philosophy.

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« Reply #831 on: March 20, 2025, 07:24:56 PM »
Oh god so this was inevitable

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« Reply #832 on: March 20, 2025, 08:03:52 PM »
Are Trump and Elon just operating on a break rules and ask for forgiveness later model? That is what it feels like.

This entire escapade tells me that Trump thinks the Republicans are going to lose the midterms and as a result they have to try and do as much as possible in two years.
No they're not.  There aren't going to be mid-terms.

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« Reply #833 on: March 20, 2025, 08:29:41 PM »
This entire escapade tells me that Trump thinks the Republicans are going to lose the midterms and as a result they have to try and do as much as possible in two years.

Republicans are acting like they won't have to answer to voters ever again.

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« Reply #834 on: March 21, 2025, 12:06:14 AM »
Judge tells DOGE they cannot access personal information at the SSA and to delete anything they've already pulled.

Paraphrasing: "DOGE has shown more concern and care about the identities of their own members than the millions of records they want access to."

https://x.com/chrisgeidner/status/1902811446985265162?s=46&t=LW5bfaJ3Q5CiuE5gtk6oxw

In response, the SSA director claims that he'd have to shut down the agency because "well everybody who works here is DOGE."

https://x.com/outbreakupdates/status/1902884908378304891

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« Reply #835 on: March 21, 2025, 10:46:22 AM »
This entire escapade tells me that Trump thinks the Republicans are going to lose the midterms and as a result they have to try and do as much as possible in two years.

Republicans are acting like they won't have to answer to voters ever again.
Trump will get rid of term limits and become King until he dies. Eric will then be king and then Barron will then be king.

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Re: Musk takeover
« Reply #836 on: March 21, 2025, 10:48:30 AM »
This entire escapade tells me that Trump thinks the Republicans are going to lose the midterms and as a result they have to try and do as much as possible in two years.

Republicans are acting like they won't have to answer to voters ever again.
Trump will get rid of term limits and become King until he dies. Eric will then be king and then Barron will then be king.

At least it's consistent messaging.  Trump was selling these shirts to the faithful the last time he was elected:

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Re: Musk takeover
« Reply #837 on: March 21, 2025, 01:02:12 PM »
Jesus Christ it was supposed to be a joke don't even show me that shirt

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Re: Musk takeover
« Reply #838 on: March 21, 2025, 09:11:44 PM »
You can add 2046, X Musk.
Then there will probably be some hideous Barron X hybrid after that.

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« Reply #839 on: March 22, 2025, 12:38:57 PM »
DOGE fired the dev who built an AI to augment employee work at GSA, then started rolling it out as if they wrote it and it would replace people.

https://bsky.app/profile/skiles.bsky.social/post/3lkwbunaatk25


Treasury and the IRS think they're going to miss $500 billion in revenue this year due to DOGE-led layoffs.

https://archive.li/Qlmtw

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/22/irs-tax-revenue-loss-federal-budget/

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« Reply #840 on: March 22, 2025, 03:24:23 PM »
DOGE fired the dev who built an AI to augment employee work at GSA, then started rolling it out as if they wrote it and it would replace people.

https://bsky.app/profile/skiles.bsky.social/post/3lkwbunaatk25


Treasury and the IRS think they're going to miss $500 billion in revenue this year due to DOGE-led layoffs.

https://archive.li/Qlmtw

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/22/irs-tax-revenue-loss-federal-budget/

Yeah, but DOGE must have saved the government at least 1/10th of that by now.  So . . . efficiency!

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« Reply #841 on: March 23, 2025, 08:28:14 AM »
DOGE fired the dev who built an AI to augment employee work at GSA, then started rolling it out as if they wrote it and it would replace people.

https://bsky.app/profile/skiles.bsky.social/post/3lkwbunaatk25


Treasury and the IRS think they're going to miss $500 billion in revenue this year due to DOGE-led layoffs.

https://archive.li/Qlmtw

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/22/irs-tax-revenue-loss-federal-budget/

Yeah, but DOGE must have saved the government at least 1/10th of that by now.  So . . . efficiency!
The only way to balance the budget is to spend less. Just like in FIRE where we never talk about increasing incomes. It also means more efficient because AI and ????. If the US can drop its expenses enough we'll be able to keep our MAGI low enough to qualify for EITC! Maybe we can sell the land to Russians and #vanlife it.

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« Reply #842 on: March 23, 2025, 05:40:52 PM »
Aren't Musk and the Tesla board badly exposed to shareholder lawsuits at this point?  His actions, which have almost nothing to do with the company, have led directly and unequivocably to a dramatic drop in share value and sales.  This is fundamentally bad for business and normally the grounds for massive shareholder lawsuits.  Is that happening and I'm just unaware?


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Re: Musk takeover
« Reply #843 on: March 23, 2025, 07:16:01 PM »
Aren't Musk and the Tesla board badly exposed to shareholder lawsuits at this point?  His actions, which have almost nothing to do with the company, have led directly and unequivocably to a dramatic drop in share value and sales.  This is fundamentally bad for business and normally the grounds for massive shareholder lawsuits.  Is that happening and I'm just unaware?

He owns the board. They're mostly family or friends and rubber stamp everything he does. In any other publicly-traded company, he would have been gone weeks ago. Instead they're pretending everything is fine while they sell off millions of shares.

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Re: Musk takeover
« Reply #844 on: March 23, 2025, 07:49:34 PM »
Aren't Musk and the Tesla board badly exposed to shareholder lawsuits at this point?  His actions, which have almost nothing to do with the company, have led directly and unequivocably to a dramatic drop in share value and sales.  This is fundamentally bad for business and normally the grounds for massive shareholder lawsuits.  Is that happening and I'm just unaware?

He owns the board. They're mostly family or friends and rubber stamp everything he does. In any other publicly-traded company, he would have been gone weeks ago. Instead they're pretending everything is fine while they sell off millions of shares.

There have been lawsuits with some success.  The board was sued for their excessive compensation, and had to pay a huge part of it back.  Elon also never collected his $55B paycheck because Delaware courts sided with the shareholders.  Of course they're now trying to pay him $100B (more than Tesla's entire annual revenue) now that they reincorporated in Texas. 

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« Reply #845 on: March 23, 2025, 10:44:38 PM »
According to a story in our media today some of the programs culled in the USAID free-for-all are actually programs funded by other governments and simply administered by USAID.  Countries such as Sweden, Norway and the Netherlands are reasonably asking for their programs to continue or for the monies that they have contributed to be returned.  Apparently this has been made public because the Americans are stonewalling through diplomatic channels.  The article implies that there are several other countries, other than the ones listed, who are impacted as well.

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Re: Musk takeover
« Reply #846 on: March 24, 2025, 10:45:44 AM »
Aren't Musk and the Tesla board badly exposed to shareholder lawsuits at this point?  His actions, which have almost nothing to do with the company, have led directly and unequivocably to a dramatic drop in share value and sales.  This is fundamentally bad for business and normally the grounds for massive shareholder lawsuits.  Is that happening and I'm just unaware?

He owns the board. They're mostly family or friends and rubber stamp everything he does. In any other publicly-traded company, he would have been gone weeks ago. Instead they're pretending everything is fine while they sell off millions of shares.

Yeah insiders and institutions are selling tesla shares while the Trump admin tries to tell retail investors to buy. Trump supporters will once again end up being the bag holders here. It's really hard to understand why Biden is doing this to them AGAIN! 
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Re: Musk takeover
« Reply #847 on: March 24, 2025, 12:21:29 PM »
Aren't Musk and the Tesla board badly exposed to shareholder lawsuits at this point?  His actions, which have almost nothing to do with the company, have led directly and unequivocably to a dramatic drop in share value and sales.  This is fundamentally bad for business and normally the grounds for massive shareholder lawsuits.  Is that happening and I'm just unaware?

He owns the board. They're mostly family or friends and rubber stamp everything he does. In any other publicly-traded company, he would have been gone weeks ago. Instead they're pretending everything is fine while they sell off millions of shares.

Yeah insiders and institutions are selling tesla shares while the Trump admin tries to tell retail investors to buy. Trump supporters will once again end up being the bag holders here. It's really hard to understand why Biden is doing this to them AGAIN!

Everything may look bleak, but this one got me with a loud in the office snort. Thank you good sir!

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« Reply #848 on: March 24, 2025, 12:53:42 PM »
Musk and Trump complaining about the threats against the DOGE team, confirming that they're "just a bunch of kids." Precisely who we want sifting through government files without supervision.

https://x.com/howardmortman/status/1904239309928202615

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Re: Musk takeover
« Reply #849 on: March 24, 2025, 01:10:58 PM »
Aren't Musk and the Tesla board badly exposed to shareholder lawsuits at this point?  His actions, which have almost nothing to do with the company, have led directly and unequivocably to a dramatic drop in share value and sales.  This is fundamentally bad for business and normally the grounds for massive shareholder lawsuits.  Is that happening and I'm just unaware?

He owns the board. They're mostly family or friends and rubber stamp everything he does. In any other publicly-traded company, he would have been gone weeks ago. Instead they're pretending everything is fine while they sell off millions of shares.

Sure he does, and the board is clearly a broken institution.  But there are a lot of other shareholders with a pretty clear case of the CEO not focusing on his job and actively poisoning the brand of the company they own.  It takes a lot less than that to form grounds for a shareholder lawsuit.