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I'm curious how Millennials feel about navel-gazing Generation X movies like "American Beauty" and "Fight Club" where the central question is "What is the meaning of life when everything is so easy?" They came out in a time in American history where art history majors had ten job offers waiting from them when they finished their four-year state college degree and people made a living selling beanie babies on eBay. Do these movies seem like artifacts from an alien planet or what? (At the time, they seemed really profound.)

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I'm a millennial on the older side, but I'll give my opinions on these films. They're awesome. I like Fight Club as I feel that it's more of a critique on the decline of male cultural identity and masculinity. We're not women, don't teach us like women, don't treat us like women, accept that we have different methods of learning, understanding, and coping with the world around us. I also think Operation Mayhem demonstrated the desire to fight back against the general feeling of helplessness of middle class and poor men in regards to feeling that they were just cogs in the system. Big Tits Bob's family abandoned him, the narrator felt trapped in all aspects of his life and didn't understand what Marla needed.

The quote that sticks in my mind whenever I think about that movie, and there are a lot of good ones, is:
"We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need."

American Beauty is my reason for pursuing ER. I want to be Lester Burnham smoking joints, working out, and actively enjoying life instead of being stuck dealing with the daily operations of my particular bureaucracy. The other characters are all seem to be bizarro caricatures around 90's themes - the moody teenage daughter, the strong independent wife, the homophobic dad next door that thinks he's gay, and that creepy kid with his stupid flying bag thinking it's something deeper. Nope, it's all about Lester.

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I think we really identify with those movies; they came into being about the time that we were just grown up enough to really begin questioning the system and truly yearning for independence.  They really spoke to the 'trapped' feeling of adolescence, where the world seems filled with arbitrary rules and rewardless work and adults who are clearly miserable with their lives telling you to follow the same path they did. The theme of rebellion and IDGAF attitude and  of the central characters resonated with me. More "I won't play your goddamn game" than "What's the point if it's all so easy?"

Interesting question though: I'd love to see more responses.

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The quote that sticks in my mind whenever I think about that movie, and there are a lot of good ones, is:
"We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need."


Nice! I am a movie lover and appreciate insights I miss like this one. I thought fight club had to do more with an existential crisis

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I'm curious how Millennials feel about navel-gazing Generation X movies like "American Beauty" and "Fight Club" where the central question is "What is the meaning of life when everything is so easy?"
I am an old millenial, but I loved Fight Club (Ed Norton... swoon!) and American Beauty both. To me, the messages were more about anti-consumerism and anti-consumer culture. Yes, things were easier, but I would argue that we're just as much a consumerist culture now, if not more. And the messages still seem on-point.

Fight Club: "Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."

American Beauty:  "This isn't life, it's just stuff. And it's become more important to you than living. Well, honey, that's just nuts."

I mean, sure, it was easier then, but both movies to me are about escaping the rat race and living life in the moment without worrying about the superficial "keeping up with the Jones" attitude. That is just as relevant today as it was in the early 2000s. Call it navel-gazing if you like, but if you don't ever look critically at yourself, you won't ever change. I think they are both great movies for young people to spark the idea that you don't need to do the same thing as everybody else to have a worthwhile or meaningful life. And they're funny as hell.

Plus, Ed Norton being all sexy and topless and stuff ;)

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I'm a millenial, saw both of them in theaters when they first came out (when I was almost done with High School) and thought they sucked. I don't remember enough about either to remember why I thought that, just that with both I left the theater thinking I wasted my money.
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23 right now. Never heard of American Beauty. Watched fightclub with my friends in highschool (maybe late middleschool?) and we all thought the movie was a little weird but the plot twist was epic (and of course the fighting/rebel crap). Kinda like the usual suspects - cool plot twist and cool movie, but no bigger message.

It wasn't until I watched it again a few months ago that I even noticed the anti-consumerism message.

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I'm 25 now, and saw Fight Club for the first time when I was 18 (2009).  Ironically, the person who introduced it to me always blew all her money on stupid shit every payday (living at home with no bills).

I enjoyed it.  I'll watch anything David Fincher puts out.

I think I honestly saw it before I realized just how "consumerist" our society is, and I thought it was a bit over-the-top how consumery Edward Norton's character was at the beginning.  Turns out it wasn't.

Spoiler: show
I always just assumed that "I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need." was adding to the homoerotic undertones to make the twist even less expected and more of a gut punch.

And it was spoiled for me right before I saw it, so even though the movie came out in 1999 I insist on using spoiler tags.

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Loved both!

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.......... They came out in a time in American history where art history majors had ten job offers waiting from them when they finished their four-year state college degree........
Did that time ever exist? I must have missed it.

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"American Beauty," always suckers me in at first and then I realize, "These people are all such stupid twats that made their own beds and should lay in them instead of going around making everyone else miserable."  I leave, not with a profound philosophical idea about the universe, but wanting to just punch Kevin Spacey in his stupid, round, suburban face.

Better Gen-X movies are a little shallower and not so navel-gazing:  "Weird Science," "The Breakfast Club," "Sixteen Candles," "Edward Scissorhands," "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"....

Not "Ferris Bueller" though.  ....That kid's a smug, little twerp.

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American Beauty reminds me of two things:

Mena Suvari and the quote "1970 Pontiac Firebird. The car I've always wanted and now I have it. I rule!"

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I loved both movies, and they had a profound impact on me.  They deal with very fundamental themes of life, without trying to offer easy answers.

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I'm curious how Millennials feel about navel-gazing Generation X movies like "American Beauty" and "Fight Club" where the central question is "What is the meaning of life when everything is so easy?"
I am an old millenial, but I loved Fight Club (Ed Norton... swoon!) and American Beauty both. To me, the messages were more about anti-consumerism and anti-consumer culture. Yes, things were easier, but I would argue that we're just as much a consumerist culture now, if not more. And the messages still seem on-point.

Fight Club: "Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."

American Beauty:  "This isn't life, it's just stuff. And it's become more important to you than living. Well, honey, that's just nuts."

I mean, sure, it was easier then, but both movies to me are about escaping the rat race and living life in the moment without worrying about the superficial "keeping up with the Jones" attitude. That is just as relevant today as it was in the early 2000s. Call it navel-gazing if you like, but if you don't ever look critically at yourself, you won't ever change. I think they are both great movies for young people to spark the idea that you don't need to do the same thing as everybody else to have a worthwhile or meaningful life. And they're funny as hell.

Plus, Ed Norton being all sexy and topless and stuff ;)

I love this answer and totally agree.  I'm also an older millennial, really at the cusp with Gen X.

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I have never seen American Beauty, but I really enjoyed Fight Club.. I really empathize with the protagonist, and I at times wish for an end to the day in, day out drone, serving others more powerful than I.

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I have to say that I have never even thought of putting "sexy" and Ed Norton in the same sentence.  Perhaps this negatively impacted my enjoyment of Fight Club.

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I always just assumed that "I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need." was adding to the homoerotic undertones...
I think apart from this (which yes, sexy Ed Norton and sexy Brad Pitt being all sexy together. DOUBLE SWOON), both movies are about rejecting sex in favor of sexuality, as part of the consumer culture. We're sold this sterile image of sex through advertising, and we try to avoid the reality of sex as a primal activity.

I'm not spoilering this because they're both fifteen year old movies, but here's some discussion of the sex in both films:

Fight Club: Helena Bonham Carter's line in bed "I haven't been fucked like that since grade school" was changed from the original "I want to have your abortion." In her and Brad Pitt's relationship, we see sex as it really is - raw, dirty, sensual. When Ed Norton is cleaning up after them, he finds a used condom and acts utterly revolted. She's the opposite of the traditional sex symbol, stripped of all romantic or "pure" sexuality, and that's why Ed struggles with his attraction to her.

American Beauty: Here sex is also right on the table (see Lester singing: "American woman, stay away from meeeee!") As a good consumer whore, he's attracted to his daughter's cheerleader friend - the innocent, perfect American beauty of the title. When he actually tries to have sex with his wife, she pushes him away because she doesn't want to spill wine on the couch (and when she DOES go get sex, it's her having sex, literally, with power - "Fuck me, your Majesty!"). Lester's redemption comes at the very end of the movie, when after chasing the virgin around he realizes that he, too, has been selling her a dream of himself that isn't real - and insists that they stop before they become sexually involved. Incidentally, it's at this moment, where he's come to terms with his sexuality and is at peace, that he's killed. And not just killed, but killed for rejecting another sexual advance from someone who can't accept their own sexuality. Interesting stuff.

I see American Beauty as a kind of updated Death of a Salesman. Both Lester and Willie Loman are pathetic and contemptuous, but only until we realize that we are all corrupted in the same way. Both of them are held in contempt by their families, their bosses, and the audience (initially, anyway). That's why Death of a Salesman is a tragedy to me where American Beauty isn't - they both die at the end, but Willie Loman dies still trying to achieve the american dream. Lester Burnham dies after realizing that the american dream is not worth achieving, and turning his back on it.

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I liked fight club.  I saw it before I was really aware of what was once described as the "quiet desperation" of life.  I take it as a reminder that there will always be those who focus not on what they have, but on what they feel they should have had, and of how destructive those feelings can be.

It has been a striking journey since, discovering how what I thought were exaggerations regarding consumerism and liability considerations turned out to be harshly true.  I wage my own project mayhem forcing my employer to provide adequate safety rather than relying on the implied acceptable minimum safety.  Fight the power *raised fist*!

American Beauty just seems more and more ridiculous as I get older.  I don't see any man seriously attracted to women that are so young.  As in, not one single person I know over the age of 30 would have any interest in sex with a minor.  That aspect was just so far outside of the actual experience of life, vs. what we expect life will be like.  When I was 18 I couldn't imagine anything sexier than an 18 year old woman.  Now women my own age are the sexiest imaginable.  And it's like this for most men, whether they've actually considered it or not.  The other story lines were already pretty crazy.

The quitting your job thing and then leading a purposeless screwing-around life I felt was a metaphor for the reality that most people die soon after leaving the workforce.  It's a sobering actuarial table.  If you wait to leave work until you just truly can't stand it anymore you end up dying (either old age or homicidal neighbors).

tl;dr: as a snake person I liked fight club and I like it more every year but I did not enjoy American Beauty much back in the day, and it gets worse as I get older.

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American Beauty just seems more and more ridiculous as I get older.  I don't see any man seriously attracted to women that are so young.  As in, not one single person I know over the age of 30 would have any interest in sex with a minor.  That aspect was just so far outside of the actual experience of life, vs. what we expect life will be like.  When I was 18 I couldn't imagine anything sexier than an 18 year old woman.  Now women my own age are the sexiest imaginable.  And it's like this for most men, whether they've actually considered it or not.  The other story lines were already pretty crazy.

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tl;dr: as a snake person I liked fight club and I like it more every year but I did not enjoy American Beauty much back in the day, and it gets worse as I get older.

I had a serious fear when I was 16 or so that i would only ever be attracted to 16-year olds (I'm a woman, for what it's worth). That has not been a problem.  I also haven't developed a thing for older men, which I think is sort of a trope.   I do, however, get hit on a LOT by 15 and 16 year old boys when I'm running, which I think I (sadly) have to attribute to my relative flatchestedness (especially in a sports bra) making me look a lot younger.

As a snake person (what are we using as the cut off? 84-2002?), I enjoyed American Beauty when it came out (I was 13, I believe) and never saw Fight Club because I don't do gore and it sounded like gore.  It seems like those were really movies for folks born in the late 1970s.  I don't think I'd find them insightful if I saw them now.

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I've never seen American Beauty. I found Fight Club to be entertaining, but as far as the anti-consumerist message goes, I'm torn between agreeing with it, being amused at the irony of it being presented in a big-budget commercialized Hollywood blockbuster, and being annoyed with society because of the fact that most alleged-fans of the movie don't notice or care about that dichotomy.

I do think that if you haven't seen Fight Club yet, you should -- especially since you can think about its themes in context with the current political climate (Trump, Brexit, etc.)

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Older Millennial here - cut off for that generation is 1980... - these came out in High School so my peers and I saw them in theatres/home video same year. We loved Fight Club for the fighting, and for the rants. Every guy worth his salt in college had 2 posters: the rant from Trainspotting and the rant from Fight Club.

American Beauty, yeah, I was eh about the message. It's like Revolutionary Road. If you hate suburbia, move. You have the money!

Though it gave me one of my favorite  Family Guy smash cuts: God on a cloud shouting at the kid with the video camera: "A bag?!!? That's a miracle??! Look at your f@#king circulatory system! That's a miracle!!


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American Beauty reminds me of two things:

Mena Suvari and the quote "1970 Pontiac Firebird. The car I've always wanted and now I have it. I rule!"

Am I the only other person in this thread who watched it just to see her with her top off?

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I have never seen American Beauty, but I really enjoyed Fight Club.. I really empathize with the protagonist, and I at times wish for an end to the day in, day out drone, serving others more powerful than I.

Have you tried punching the fuck out of yourself in the boss's office, and then blackmailing them? Just a suggestion.

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Internet tells me they both came out in 1999. I was about 16 at the time. I don't think I got much from American Beauty at the time. Or not that I can remember. I recently rewatched it and related a lot with Kevin Spacey (not that i'm unhappy with marriage or work) - I guess just being 32 not allowed me more perspective.

I really liked Fight Club when it came out and still do. I can relate to a lot of the themes. I am going to be that wanker who says he preferred the novel.

A movie I'd like to throw in the mix is Garden State. A bit later (2004) but still firmly for Millenials. I freaken loved this movie when it came out. Related so hard. The Shins were the soundtrack to my life too! I was feelings. I was unique and quirky. Rewatched it recently...boy it did not stand up well to revisiting.

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Fight Club taught me to be very careful about where I get my soap.

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A movie I'd like to throw in the mix is Garden State. A bit later (2004) but still firmly for Millenials. I freaken loved this movie when it came out. Related so hard. The Shins were the soundtrack to my life too! I was feelings. I was unique and quirky. Rewatched it recently...boy it did not stand up well to revisiting.

Haha, yeah! That was my junior year of college and everyone had that soundtrack!!!

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I liked American Beauty but didn't love it. I watched it when I was around 20 and it didn't seem too out there.

Fight Club, on the other hand, BLEW MY MIND. I must have been about fourteen and I just thought "Fuck yeah, this is what life is really about - all the grit and the reality of life, as opposed to work which seemed totally fake and unreal. Also the railing against purchasing a prepackaged life. I don't know if I would have the same reaction if I saw it for the first time now, but it remains a film I really love because I can still feel the shivers I got the first time I saw it. It totally punched a hole right through my life at the time, which was nice and middle class and very much involved going along the planned track to university, a good job, 2.4 children, etc. I do think it is very Millenial because it exposes corporate bullshit and a purchased, padded-protective-insulated life for what it is. For someone with a bit of a helicopter mum, it hit the nail right on the head about what I was feeling and opened my eyes to alternatives. (No, I do not own a soap factory, but I refused to go into a career that wasn't "real" - where I could see and touch my work at the end

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I liked American Beauty but didn't love it. I watched it when I was around 20 and it didn't seem too out there.

Fight Club, on the other hand, BLEW MY MIND. I must have been about fourteen and I just thought "Fuck yeah, this is what life is really about - all the grit and the reality of life, as opposed to work which seemed totally fake and unreal. Also the railing against purchasing a prepackaged life. I don't know if I would have the same reaction if I saw it for the first time now, but it remains a film I really love because I can still feel the shivers I got the first time I saw it. It totally punched a hole right through my life at the time, which was nice and middle class and very much involved going along the planned track to university, a good job, 2.4 children, etc. I do think it is very Millenial because it exposes corporate bullshit and a purchased, padded-protective-insulated life for what it is. For someone with a bit of a helicopter mum, it hit the nail right on the head about what I was feeling and opened my eyes to alternatives. (No, I do not own a soap factory, but I refused to go into a career that wasn't "real" - where I could see and touch my work at the end

Shirtless Ed Norton gives me shivers too!  :)

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I liked American Beauty but didn't love it. I watched it when I was around 20 and it didn't seem too out there.

Fight Club, on the other hand, BLEW MY MIND. I must have been about fourteen and I just thought "Fuck yeah, this is what life is really about - all the grit and the reality of life, as opposed to work which seemed totally fake and unreal. Also the railing against purchasing a prepackaged life. I don't know if I would have the same reaction if I saw it for the first time now, but it remains a film I really love because I can still feel the shivers I got the first time I saw it. It totally punched a hole right through my life at the time, which was nice and middle class and very much involved going along the planned track to university, a good job, 2.4 children, etc. I do think it is very Millenial because it exposes corporate bullshit and a purchased, padded-protective-insulated life for what it is. For someone with a bit of a helicopter mum, it hit the nail right on the head about what I was feeling and opened my eyes to alternatives. (No, I do not own a soap factory, but I refused to go into a career that wasn't "real" - where I could see and touch my work at the end

Shirtless Ed Norton gives me shivers too!  :)

'Keeping the Faith' was my first Edward Norton film, and still kind of my favourite. I'm still a bit sad that Anna comes off as such a bitch, though.

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.......... They came out in a time in American history where art history majors had ten job offers waiting from them when they finished their four-year state college degree........
Did that time ever exist? I must have missed it.

Yeah, i was in my twenties when these movies came out and, no, people with art history degrees DID NOT have numerous job offers after graduating......unless they had other skills the company wanted that were probably not related to art history. I have a friend who graduated the top of his class at a really good school with a degree in philosophy. He couldn't land a job at the local Barnes and Noble. He ended up in computers(mid 90's when most people did not own a personal computer), but from skills he learned outside of school. I know a few people who bought Beanie Babies thinking they were sitting on a gold mine. But, I do not know one person who MADE money reselling them.

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I've loved American Beauty since the first time I saw it, sometime in high school or college. I've watched it many times since, and I still love it. One of my all time favorites for sure.

I'm going to watch Fight Club this weekend. I've seen parts of it but can't recall sitting through the whole thing, thanks for the reminder!

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2 of my favorites. A few more serious favorites, The Usual Suspects, Pulp Fiction, Natural Born Killers, Lord of War, Samurai, The Hurt Locker, Gladiator, Braveheart, The G The B & The U, Schindler's List, Memento... I could go on all night.

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I'm late to the party, but I'll bump this thread up.

I adore Fight Club - the novel and the movie. I was about 13 when I saw it for the first time, and I saw it with my family. I insisted on re-watching it at least once by myself before they returned it to the video rental place.

I'd credit Fight Club as one of the media points that planted anti-consumerism seeds in my teenage brain, but when I was a teenager I didn't find the anti-consumerism piece to be incredibly profound. Instead of was dealing with my first fight with depression at the time, and had an emotionally abusive relationship with my father (control-based) that kept me from fully forming a self identity, like I should have been doing at that age. The main character's lack of identity, the feeling of drifting from one place to the next, and only having a secret primal outlet really paralleled my personal life at the time.

I still think back on all of the quotes about status quo very fondly, though, and still dream of "throwing it all away" and hitting my own rock bottom. Mostly I talk to my therapist about these feelings, though, instead of making up a false identity for myself ;)

"The stuff you own ends up owning you."

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I've never seen Fight Club, but I already know the storyline, so I don't know if it's still worth seeing at this point.

American Beauty blew my mind. I watched it on a date when I was 18. I think it was the first contemplative drama that I'd ever really watched. Before that, I was mostly into pointless Adam Sandler/Jim Carey-style comedies, action flicks, romantic comedies (wasn't really my thing, but when you're a teenager on a date...) etc. American Beauty actually made me think about my relationship with the world, with stuff, with people, which was not something that I expected to get out of a movie. It's still one of my favorites, just out of principle, but I wonder how well it would hold up if I saw it again.

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If you like Fight Club, you should check out the series Mr Robot (free on Amazon Prime), it's takes the same basic themes and updates it for the information age.  And it's really well done.  Very cinematic.

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If you like Fight Club, you should check out the series Mr Robot (free on Amazon Prime), it's takes the same basic themes and updates it for the information age.  And it's really well done.  Very cinematic.
+1 Mr. Robot is quite enjoyable.

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Fight Club taught me to be very careful about where I get my soap.

You're not lye-ing!

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Ok so I,have to ask you Fight Club fans: did you see/notice the frame of. Penis at e end of the film, in the credits?

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Ok so I,have to ask you Fight Club fans: did you see/notice the frame of. Penis at e end of the film, in the credits?
There are a bunch of those shots mixed into the movie. It is one of many easter eggs to be found. There is reportedly a starbucks cup hidden somewhere in every scene ranging from in hand at the copier to sticking out of a garbage can in a corner. Another is when the Brad Pitt version of Tyler looks straight at Jared Leto as he says, "We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars."

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After reading this thread I'm really interested in the age of people who loved/were moved by, etc both movies.

They were both major movies for me and I was born in 81. I have a feeling that those of us sort of sandwiched between Gen X and Millennials are going to have much fonder feelings toward them than someone born '71 or '91.

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After reading this thread I'm really interested in the age of people who loved/were moved by, etc both movies.

They were both major movies for me and I was born in 81. I have a feeling that those of us sort of sandwiched between Gen X and Millennials are going to have much fonder feelings toward them than someone born '71 or '91.

Also born in '81.  Loved both movies.

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After reading this thread I'm really interested in the age of people who loved/were moved by, etc both movies.

They were both major movies for me and I was born in 81. I have a feeling that those of us sort of sandwiched between Gen X and Millennials are going to have much fonder feelings toward them than someone born '71 or '91.

Also born in '81.  Loved both movies.
'91 here.  Loved Fight Club, didn't see it until 2009.  Haven't seen American Beauty.

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After reading this thread I'm really interested in the age of people who loved/were moved by, etc both movies.

They were both major movies for me and I was born in 81. I have a feeling that those of us sort of sandwiched between Gen X and Millennials are going to have much fonder feelings toward them than someone born '71 or '91.

Interesting theory.  In my opinion, good films are good films; you don't need to have been born in '36 to appreciate Casablanca, for instance. But perhaps it may be more pertinent what age one viewed these films at, versus when they were born?  My parents don't have the same appreciation for Boondock Saints, for instance; not just because they were born in the mid-sixities, but because they were 30something when it was released.  Not a naval gazing film, but just an observation.

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Lester in American Beauty carries a copy of Joe
Dominguez' Your Money Or Your Life in the drive thru scene.

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After reading this thread I'm really interested in the age of people who loved/were moved by, etc both movies.

They were both major movies for me and I was born in 81. I have a feeling that those of us sort of sandwiched between Gen X and Millennials are going to have much fonder feelings toward them than someone born '71 or '91.

Also born in '81.  Loved both movies.

Same here.

American Beauty blew my mind. I watched it on a date when I was 18. . . . It's still one of my favorites, just out of principle, but I wonder how well it would hold up if I saw it again.

This thread inspired me to re-watch it on Netflix last week.  I think I saw it through a completely different lens now at 35 than I did in the theater at 18.  I still love it.

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Born in '77.  I really enjoyed Fight Club, although I just liked it because I thought it was a cool movie, not because of any philosophical affinity towards it. 

Didn't enjoy American Beauty nearly as much.

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I am an old fart. loved
American Beauty and saw it twice n the theater when it came out.

Cannot relate to
Fight
Coub.

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I'm an x'er (1975) and loved both. I don't really dig my generation's movies, the 80's movies, they are so silly and over the top for the most part.

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I'm an x'er (1975) and loved both. I don't really dig my generation's movies, the 80's movies, they are so silly and over the top for the most part.

I would agree with the 80's movies. Interesting how art changes through the decades. And since the 'great' films of a generation are largely made by the generation before... who are they really a reflection of?