Free Energy, suppressed before with bribes of Money. But we are MMM!!

[Freeyourchains2]

Part 2 of 2.

Tesla's Final Years

This technology was the focus of Tesla's final decades of life. He considered it his greatest accomplishment. Everything before had been trivial compared to the potential of his new wireless energy broadcasting system.

As history records, the powers that be fought against his efforts to commercialize the technology. His main laboratory in New York was burned down, and funding for the Wardenclyffe tower was cut. Later, the Wardenclyffe tower was destroyed all together. The power barons of his day did not like the idea of free energy being beamed across the world. They wanted to sell metered power to increase their earnings and wealth. Tesla's system was a threat to their financial empires.

Tesla gradually moved away from large scale transmission systems and worked on smaller units. Eventually, he designed a small device that he claimed collected energy from the, "aether all around us." He connected the small box to a Pierce Arrow modified to use an electric motor and announced, "Now we have power." The vehicle zipped around at high speeds of up to ninety miles an hour!

For reasons not quite understood, the technology that powered the Pierce Arrow was never commercialized. We do not know if it was directly suppressed, if he was simply not able to get the funding to mass produce it, if he chose to keep the technology to himself, or if some other event transpired. To this day, little is known about the small box other than a few brief words on the electrical components it utilized.

Sadly, Tesla died alone and poverty stricken in a small hotel room in New York City. The mayor at the time made a radio address in honor of his life, inventions, and contributions to modern civilization.


Wondrous Properties of Tesla Coils

Tesla demonstrated many amazing properties of his coil setups, but now others have done the same. Numerous individuals have built and successfully replicated the effects he was able to produce. A few of these individuals are Eric Dollard, Steve Jackson, and Konstantin Meyl. They have verified the stunning effects and properties of these systems that Tesla demonstrated so long ago.

Let's review these stunning properties.

1) The coils of a "Tesla coil" amplify the voltage from the "disruptive discharge." The final voltage at the ends of the secondary can be thousands of times larger than the voltage of the input (for example from a dynamo). This takes place in a setup with loose coupling between primary and secondary, and without magnetic induction since no electron flow (at least in an optimized system) is taking place.

2) The longitudinal waves of aether (voltage potential decoupled from electron flow) can be broadcast to power devices such as motors, lights, and heaters over very large distances. They can also remotely charge capacitors at a distance.

3) These longitudinal waves to not diminish exponentially with distance. They do not diminish in strength according to the inverse square law that governs ordinary transverse waves. For example, if the distance between a Tesla transmitter and receiver is doubled the power output of the receiver does not drop by a squared function. In the worst case, it will barely drop at all. In the best case, (if the transmitter and receiver are kept at resonance) the output of the receiver can stay the same over extreme distances or increase.

4) These longitudinal waves can penetrate any barrier including insulators or conductors. They can transmit information and power directly through Faraday cages and solid metal containers. This is not possible with transverse waves.

5) Amazingly, longitudinal waves seem to have some sort of momentum. Once a flow of longitudinal waves has been established it seems like the same flow wants to continue. Perhaps a good description would be that these waves are "self re-enforcing." These waves of aether seem to collect energy from the surrounding aether.

6) Longitudinal waves can travel at superluminal speeds.

Perhaps most importantly....

7) Tesla coils produce overunity gains of energy in multiple ways!


Overunity Energy Gains

It is possible to obtain free energy (or actually energy extracted from the aether) with Tesla coils. These gains of energy are fairly simple to reproduce and have been demonstrated repeatedly. Konstantin Meyl has built and tested numerous such systems that demonstrate "overunity" gains of energy. However, these gains of energy manifest in many ways. Let's explore them!

The first way a Tesla coil produces a gain of energy, is the obvious increase in voltage produced by the disruptive discharge. A certain quantity of voltage is pulsed across the spark gap. This produces a blast of longitudinal waves that is far higher in voltage than what was capable of being produced by the dynamo or capacitors that provided the input.

A second way a Tesla coil produces a gain of energy is the increase in voltage as the longitudinal waves or "aether" flows across the secondary windings. As it flows across the secondary, voltage increases to extremely high levels. In this step, the "gain" of the system is further increased. This voltage increase is taking place without any magnetic induction or conventional transformer effect.

The third way a Tesla coil produces a gain of energy is during the broadcast of longitudinal waves. As Tesla demonstrated, longitudinal waves have a self-sustaining or moment effect. Flows of aether seem to gain strength as they travel and want to continue even when the input of a system is cut off. As the waves travel between the transmitter and receiver they may increase in power.

The fourth way a Tesla coil can produce a gain of energy, is when a receiver is in resonance with a transmitter. In this situation a receiver can collect longitudinal waves and allow them to magnify themselves as they flow over the inner coil. In a sense, a receiver is not only "receiving" power from the transmitter, but is also amplifying that power. This produces an even larger gain of energy.

Many overunity technologies are emerging in our current age, but Tesla's technology represented a simple and straightforward way to produce gains of energy over a hundred years ago. Just imagine the potential of his technology when combined with modern material science, electronic components, and micro-processor controls. The potential of the technology is limitless.


Potential of Tesla Coils and Aetheric Technology

The potential capabilities of Tesla coils are almost limitless. They are a source of free energy, allow for superluminal communication, allow for wireless transfer of power, and are speculated to be capable of even more exotic feats. Nikola Tesla proposed using such systems to produce force fields to protect cities from enemy attack. He even suggested medical applications for the technology. In fact, he mentioned how if someone could manipulate the aether, gravity manipulation could be possible!

Mastering and cracking the mystery of the aether can substantially help us to understand how our universe truly works. When that is accomplished, our wildest dreams have the potential to become reality. The stuff of science fiction could become absolute reality.

Perhaps when other civilizations beyond our planet recognize we have mastered this technology, open contact will be made. No wonder we appear to have so many visitors from other realms. Perhaps the preferred method of communication across the vast distances of space is not via the transmission of slow transverse waves, but by faster than light longitudinal impulses in the aether. Maybe this technology could give SETI (the search for extraterrestrial intelligence) a new tool by which to "tune in" to the universe (that is if SETI isn't just a window dressing operation to make us feel like we're at least trying when in fact the black ops have had the real technology for decades).

Due to modern technology, building a Tesla coil is simpler, easier, and safer than ever before. Instead of using potentially dangerous high voltage dynamos and spark gaps, solid state function generators can be used. The same effects can be demonstrated with these lower power systems that use a few volts instead of thousands to millions of volts. Advanced electronic tools such as oscilloscopes can allow for more precise observations of the impulses generated and received. There is no excuse for modern day scientists, engineers, technology enthusiasts, and even garage tinkerers not to develop this technology.

This field is wide open. Further development and enhancement of this technology, perhaps even beyond the dreams of Tesla, is certainly possible. All it will take is for people to recognize its significance and get to work producing replications, finding applications, and designing products. Tesla spent most of the last half of his life working on perfecting this technology. With the wonderful possibilities it has to offer, it is easy to understand his dedication and obsession. Who among us will step up and continue the work he started?

by Hank Mills
Pure Energy Systems News

http://pesn.com/2011/04/19/9501813_Tesla_Coils_Unleash_Aether/

[Roland of Gilead]

Before you continue to spout wall of text postings that I fear you actually know nothing about, can you elaborate on how Tesla coils produce an output that can penetrate a Faraday cage?

[tooqk4u22]

Just wanted to say, Freeyourchains2, you are off your rocker.. as many of your other posts have suggested earlier. Your enthusiasm is welcome, but you need some physics and history classes, lad.

As long as the Mustachians are having fun with this thread and don't mind wasting time, we should keep it. But I'm also fine with deleting it if the moderators prefer, as it is a total waste of my hard drive space.. :-)

I have followed this thread somewhat for comic relief but admittedly for curiosity as well, but this has to be one of the best posts yet, obviously due to the fact that it is your site.  Setting that aside, I admit I like the idea of geeking out about unconventional knowledge - yes I too think Freeyourchains2 is off the rocker but many thought Einstein and Galileo were too (incidentally most of the consumerist world - i.e. almost all of the better than 3rd world countries - things MMM is off his rocker.  The known is easy, the unknown/unproven is hard and while I may not understand/agree/be able to prove I think we all should embrace the possibility.

Perpetual free energy other the sun would be awesome.

[arebelspy]

Don't just steal someone else's work and post it unattributed FYC.  That's not cool.

http://pesn.com/2011/04/19/9501813_Tesla_Coils_Unleash_Aether/

[Jamesqf]

...yes I too think Freeyourchains2 is off the rocker but many thought Einstein and Galileo were too...

Actually, few people - and none of those who mattered - thought those two were off their rockers.  Galileo was taken so seriously that the powers-that-were subjected him to house arrest to keep his subversive ideas from undermining their authority.  Einstein's Special Relativity was taken seriously by the scientific world, was tested (by measuring the position of Mercury during a solar eclipse) as soon as an opportunity presented itself, and accepted when the tests agreed with the theory.

But that right there is the difference: the theories of Galileo and Einstein were tested.  So there's a simple solution for you.  If Tesla coils or whatever really do all this amazing stuff, then just build one and show that it works.

[BC_Goldman]

Maybe the coils get stage fright or are shy.

[tooqk4u22]

...yes I too think Freeyourchains2 is off the rocker but many thought Einstein and Galileo were too...

Actually, few people - and none of those who mattered - thought those two were off their rockers.  Galileo was taken so seriously that the powers-that-were subjected him to house arrest to keep his subversive ideas from undermining their authority.  Einstein's Special Relativity was taken seriously by the scientific world, was tested (by measuring the position of Mercury during a solar eclipse) as soon as an opportunity presented itself, and accepted when the tests agreed with the theory.

But that right there is the difference: the theories of Galileo and Einstein were tested.  So there's a simple solution for you.  If Tesla coils or whatever really do all this amazing stuff, then just build one and show that it works.

Actually that is not true, Galileo was viewed off is rocker by both the church and the scientific community. Einstein certainly less so and admittedly I took a little liberty there but given the time and the fact that his work was a continuation of prior scientific theories it was less of a stretch at that time.....regardless, anybody who claims or theorizes something that has not yet been proven is often considered and viewed as a crackpot.  Sometimes, many times - genius, especially early on, looks like crazy until it is tested and proven one way or the other (Right = genius, wrong = crazy). That is why science is so awesome

[Jamesqf]

Actually that is not true, Galileo was viewed off is rocker by both the church and the scientific community.

I don't believe that was the case, though of course I don't have access to Church archives that might have information on the thinking of those who tried and condemned him.  And of course they may well have tried to tar him with the "crackpot" brush in order to discredit his theories.

But let me ask you this: if the Church authorities really did think he was a crackpot, why did they even bother with him?

The scientific community did not view him as a crackpot at all, but built telescopes of their own as soon as he published news of his discoveries.  When he showed the new device to the Venetian Senate, they were so impressed that they gave him an increased salary and lifetime tenure in his teaching post.

[arebelspy]

Actually that is not true, Galileo was viewed off is rocker by both the church and the scientific community.

Gotta side with James on this one, this is not correct.  From what I understand, Galileo was quite respected in his day (he just pissed off the wrong Pope).

Interestingly I was just reading an article about how much of a dick he was in arguing: http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/08/26/1915234/galileo-right-on-the-solar-system-wrong-on-ice

Worth a read.

[Freeyourchains2]

DIY weekend project: See schematic below. Now add a third coil for even more energy. Where does all this energy come from you might ask? Certainly not from the grid, the sun, or local radio towers.

Just trying to get curiosity into the engineering/science financially independent minds, to believe the impossible is possible and then shock the world's minds again and again as they see the bright light from outside of the cave. (of course greed always tends to follow.)

At one point Tesla had to quit his job from Edison, startup his own company, make a million dollars from his own startup by working with Westinghouse and $1/hp royalties until he tore that contract up in friendship.

Clearly Tesla was off his rocker, financially independent by his own means, and not by not bowing down to the fake million dollar salary promises of owner's like Thomas Edison; and then had complete freedom and the courage to change humanity again and again from his ongoing hardwork.

But back to the schematic.

A brief summary is presented on this link of how to design/build a tesla coil and takes into account the basic electrical equations for setup.
http://www.teslacoildesign.com/

However, many variables are not questioned in the physics of this design even though it is fun to replicate. Tesla himself back in 1900's had to keep experimenting whenever he found an unknown mystery. See his patents mentioned above.
Thus simple questions like the following are asked without any experimental proof ever done from the Science Community on Tesla coils.

1) interesting how they state the voltage is multiplied by many times but they can't explain where the secondary loop is getting this amplified Voltage or even current for that matter, aka energy. They believe it's magnetic induction across tuned frequencies. But as we know magnetic induction only provides a median to transfer energy, not amplify it. They believe it works like a transformer equation, when it does not. Where does this amplification of the voltage and current come from? Kind of like a light beam resonating in a gas median to gain it's amplified energy from. But here there is no apparent median that contributes to the amplification. (and can be done in a vacuuum, thus no ionized gas molecules contributing to the system) Radiant Energy? Dark Energy? How come this works in day or night, underwater/in cave and above?

Even an Op Amp needs a max V energy source to amplify the input.

3) why hasn't the science community thought about adding a third coil to amply the mysterious low current, amplified high voltages, to even higher mysterious currents and even higher amplified voltages?

[Freeyourchains2]

Then this government uses 57% of it's collected taxes for Classified "National Security" Military Strength of Power to police the world and have free reign upon using any creative invention ever made by it's citizens; yet, never giving it's own citizens the power to utilize all of these "classified patents" technology. AND they can not even offer give 10% of those "budgets for military purposes" in "free" electricity to all it's citizens and businesses.

I'd like to see a link for the US budget that spends 57% of taxes collected on Classified National Security, cause, I think I need a raise.

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15921

There's a brief answer to your question. Defense budget program's breakdown descriptions are considered classified for National Security reasons. But total amounts are allowed in public because Congress must approve of them. Apparently even without knowing exactly what each dollar expense is used for.

[matchewed]

Still looking for that extraordinary proof. Some drawings and pictures of aluminum foil wrapped around rods doesn't work for me. Also the empty claims followed up with questions doesn't count as proof. It's just standard conspiracy theory rhetoric. See any conspiracy theory or outlandish claim such as 9/11 conspiracies, "psychics", and people who think that the Kardashians matter.

Can you show me one of these devices actually powering something? Can you show that being verified by engineers or scientists?

[brewer12345]

Alright everyone, I agree that OP has some ideas that are out there by conventional standards, but let's rein in the personal attacks that are starting to pop up please.

From the forum rules:

1. Don't be a jerk.
2. Attack an argument, not a person.

I agree that personal attacks are out of line.  That said, when a certain poster appears to be bent on (repeatedly) pissing in the punch bowl, one wonders why the moderators tolerate such behavior.

[Jamesqf]

1) interesting how they state the voltage is multiplied by many times but they can't explain where the secondary loop is getting this amplified Voltage or even current for that matter, aka energy.

Utterly fundamental fail here: VOLTAGE IS NOT POWER.  You can get tens of thousands of volts just by petting an ordinary household cat, but you aren't going to get any useful amount of power that way.

[Bakari]

Alright everyone, I agree that OP has some ideas that are out there by conventional standards, but let's rein in the personal attacks that are starting to pop up please.

From the forum rules:

1. Don't be a jerk.
2. Attack an argument, not a person.

I agree that personal attacks are out of line.  That said, when a certain poster appears to be bent on (repeatedly) pissing in the punch bowl, one wonders why the moderators tolerate such behavior.

Because some of us have expressed mild amusement.

[arebelspy]

That said, when a certain poster appears to be bent on (repeatedly) pissing in the punch bowl, one wonders why the moderators tolerate such behavior.

The trolls that bother me are the ones that piss in other people's punch bowls.  If they want to put their own little bowl in the corner, pee away.

In other words, if tinfoil hat postings make their way to other threads, we're done with that.

If it's contained to a few threads (out of 8100+ created at the time of this posting) that can easily be ignored, I'm fine ignoring it and letting them have the space to be silly.  There's no need to crack down when it's not disrupting anything.  If they start acting rude, etc. then we'll revisit that.

[Runge]

I'll address two issues that I have with the OP's argument.

1) Just because there is a patent for an idea/invention/whatever DOES NOT mean that it's actually possible. There's numerous patents out there that people submit just because they have an idea. An accepted patent does not mean that it is physically possible; it just means that the Patent office accepted the request to patent the idea.

2) The continual use of the term "perpetual motion." the Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. This means that the input energy is ALWAYS equal to the output energy. Energy can only be redirected into a different medium. The OP's "generator" is simply that, a generator. All generators require an input and an output. Even if I assume the OP's generator using cosmic rays as it's energy source, then well...there's its energy source. The generator itself is NOT a perpetual motion machine. It cannot produce more energy than is inputted, much less produce enough energy to power itself..forever. It is physically impossible to have a closed system's total energy increase without inputting any energy. Another way to phrase is is, you can't have a black box just spewing out energy without that energy coming from somewhere. There always has to be a source and that source will always run out over a finite amount of time.

[davisgang90]

Then this government uses 57% of it's collected taxes for Classified "National Security" Military Strength of Power to police the world and have free reign upon using any creative invention ever made by it's citizens; yet, never giving it's own citizens the power to utilize all of these "classified patents" technology. AND they can not even offer give 10% of those "budgets for military purposes" in "free" electricity to all it's citizens and businesses.

I'd like to see a link for the US budget that spends 57% of taxes collected on Classified National Security, cause, I think I need a raise.

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15921

There's a brief answer to your question. Defense budget program's breakdown descriptions are considered classified for National Security reasons. But total amounts are allowed in public because Congress must approve of them. Apparently even without knowing exactly what each dollar expense is used for.

Still waiting on the link for 57% of the taxes...

Here's a better link, Defense plus international assistance through Department of State equals 20% of the budget.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/07/everything-chuck-hagel-needs-to-know-about-the-defense-budget-in-charts/

Awaiting your correction...

Additionally, I work with the classified portions of the budget and committee members that oversee those programs are read in and aware of what the money is being spent on.  Now thanks to Snowden, everyone else is too!

[Bakari]

I'd like to see a link for the US budget that spends 57% of taxes collected on Classified National Security, cause, I think I need a raise.

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15921

There's a brief answer to your question. Defense budget program's breakdown descriptions are considered classified for National Security reasons. But total amounts are allowed in public because Congress must approve of them. Apparently even without knowing exactly what each dollar expense is used for.

Still waiting on the link for 57% of the taxes...

Appropriated outlays, 2012 - defense: 671 billion  non-defense: 614 billion
This leaves out SS and medicare - which it should, as they are funded and drawn from independently of the discretionary budget.
The link you posted treats SS and medicare as if they were part of the general budget, which is more than a little misleading.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2014/assets/tables.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/overview

"Defense" generally doesn't include Veteran's affairs, or the majority of the Department of Homeland Security budget (Boarder Patrol, Coast Guard) or the CIA, so really the numbers should be even higher for all things defense related.

[BC_Goldman]

I'm sketchy on the SS, Medicare bit. I file the tax paperwork for my church's payroll and the IRS service clearly states that the amounts listed for SS and Medicare are for informational purposes only. I seem to recall that SS at least used to have it's own fund (chest) but has long since been raided by spendy politicians.

[beltim]

I'd like to see a link for the US budget that spends 57% of taxes collected on Classified National Security, cause, I think I need a raise.

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15921

There's a brief answer to your question. Defense budget program's breakdown descriptions are considered classified for National Security reasons. But total amounts are allowed in public because Congress must approve of them. Apparently even without knowing exactly what each dollar expense is used for.

Still waiting on the link for 57% of the taxes...

Appropriated outlays, 2012 - defense: 671 billion  non-defense: 614 billion
This leaves out SS and medicare - which it should, as they are funded and drawn from independently of the discretionary budget.
The link you posted treats SS and medicare as if they were part of the general budget, which is more than a little misleading.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2014/assets/tables.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/overview

"Defense" generally doesn't include Veteran's affairs, or the majority of the Department of Homeland Security budget (Boarder Patrol, Coast Guard) or the CIA, so really the numbers should be even higher for all things defense related.

There's an argument to be made for excluding Social Security, but funds raised by Medicare taxes come nowhere near the outlays for Medicare.  From the link you posted:
Outlays:
Medicare $466 billion
Medicaid $$251 billion
Other Mandatory Programs: $548 billion
Net interest: $220 billion

Receipts:
Medicare Payroll taxes: $201 billion

So at a minimum you're not including the general fund funding of Medicare, nor are you counting Medicaid, other mandatory programs, or net interest.  That's another (466 - 201 + 251 + 548 + 220) = $1.284 trillion, which nearly doubles your "budget."

[dragoncar]

Can we get a poll on whether this is serious?

[davisgang90]

Bakari,

The Time Cube follower referenced 57% of taxes paying for classified programs, so it is completely appropriate to list discretionary and non-discretionary together.

Our taxes do pay for Medicare and Social Security, that is the point.

[Freeyourchains2]

1) interesting how they state the voltage is multiplied by many times but they can't explain where the secondary loop is getting this amplified Voltage or even current for that matter, aka energy.

Utterly fundamental fail here: VOLTAGE IS NOT POWER.  You can get tens of thousands of volts just by petting an ordinary household cat, but you aren't going to get any useful amount of power that way.

@Jamessqf.  True, unless you can harness the high frequencies of those high voltage potentials. By adding more windings, the voltage and current are amplified in a Tesla Coil to tremondously high amounts, and mysteriously to the science community without more transformers being implemented. It taps in to a power source not yet seen in that community before. It resonates through "some kind of median" and obtains it's amplification energy there. I and many other brilliant minds of the past and present have thought about the theory of that median as being the Aether that was observed by Tesla and other's experiments and described within Tesla's Patents along within the book of Lorentz, A. Hendrik's "The Einstein Theory of Relativity".

Brief description link here of this book and his thoughts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_special_relativity

And even Wikipedia has extreme difficulty explaining how a tesla coil works and is very different from a transformer, but has the best references from the science community so far, mostly of which they use Tesla's patents to define this theory and historical documentation to the best of their knowledge.

Seen here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil

This Aether however was suppressed and forgotten about over the course of the last hundred years. However, breakthrough inventors have kept rediscovering it and they have been trying to give energy to the world via this "unknown" median. Yet the extreme rich and/or powerful people, and Big governments, etc. have all successfully bought them out and suppressed the re-discovery and technology that utilizes this undiscovered science.

I'll address two issues that I have with the OP's argument.

1) Just because there is a patent for an idea/invention/whatever DOES NOT mean that it's actually possible. There's numerous patents out there that people submit just because they have an idea. An accepted patent does not mean that it is physically possible; it just means that the Patent office accepted the request to patent the idea.

2) The continual use of the term "perpetual motion." the Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. This means that the input energy is ALWAYS equal to the output energy. Energy can only be redirected into a different medium. The OP's "generator" is simply that, a generator. All generators require an input and an output. Even if I assume the OP's generator using cosmic rays as it's energy source, then well...there's its energy source. The generator itself is NOT a perpetual motion machine. It cannot produce more energy than is inputted, much less produce enough energy to power itself..forever. It is physically impossible to have a closed system's total energy increase without inputting any energy. Another way to phrase is is, you can't have a black box just spewing out energy without that energy coming from somewhere. There always has to be a source and that source will always run out over a finite amount of time.

1)  Witnesses' signatures testify to the inventions' action in motion as well as many testimonies to the use and method of Tesla's patents and machines.

You are right. Not all patents are inventions. But "Method and Apparatus" patents are granted only with the actual product invented and shown working. Of course, "After the patent has expired anyone may make, use, offer for sale or sell or import the invention without permission of the patentee, provided that matter covered by other unexpired patents is not used. The terms may be extended for certain pharmaceuticals and for certain circumstances as provided by law."


And the Law has final say as to what inventions are forbidden to be used in their country or which must require a license to use. (this is a form of power over the average citizen. A shacle to their freedom, and even sometimes financial freedom, such as state laws requiring you must buy an insurance or license for the right to use.)

"A Patent Does Not Give Unlimited Rights

A patentee, merely because he/she has received a patent for an invention, is not thereby authorized to make, use, offer for sale, or sell, or import the invention if doing so would violate any law. An inventor of a new automobile who has obtained a patent thereon would not be entitled to use the patented automobile in violation of the laws of a State requiring a license, nor may a patentee sell an article, the sale of which may be forbidden by a law, merely because a patent has been obtained.
Neither may a patentee make, use, offer for sale, or sell, or import his/her own invention if doing so would infringe the prior rights of others. A patentee may not violate the Federal antitrust laws, such as by resale price agreements or entering into combination in restraints of trade, or the pure food and drug laws, by virtue of having a patent.

Ordinarily there is nothing which prohibits a patentee from making, using, offering for sale, or selling, or importing his/her own invention, unless he/she thereby infringes another’s patent which is still in force."

2) The law of conservation of Energy doesn't explain why we observe the universe as expanding. Nor does it explain a lot of mysteries in science that yet remain.

Black holes consume matter and energy all the time, clearly defying the law of conservation of Energy. Some types of Stars implode upon their own gravity and then explode due to the gravitational rip in space/time.

So why not try and experiment and find ways to make the impossible possible?

It's better than saying, "That's impossible and thus impractical; besides, it'll take too much work to experiment with and won't make me more money unless it becomes possible. Of course every time this occurs people say this to themselves, "if i do do it, then i'll sell out to the highest bidder even if the science is thus shelved for centuries and humanity continues to be financially enslaved for it's dependence on oil or the extractors of energy from sources."

If enough curious and financially free minds come up with ideas or share inventions and knowledge and act on them without money restrictions holding them from world changing achievement, then the  "pissing pot" becomes the next big change for humanity and can save the world.

Oil dependence is an awfully big shackle upon humanity right now, and so is greed.

[Freeyourchains2]

Don't just steal someone else's work and post it unattributed FYC.  That's not cool.

http://pesn.com/2011/04/19/9501813_Tesla_Coils_Unleash_Aether/

My bad, I meant to include the reference! I will be more careful on this in the future and have made the proper correction to the post.

[BC_Goldman]

Black holes consume matter and energy all the time, clearly defying the law of conservation of Energy. Some types of Stars implode upon their own gravity and then explode due to the gravitational rip in space/time.

They do no such thing. The matter and energy is still there, it's just inside a gravity well so strong that even the light can't escape from it. That's like saying that a satellite in a decaying orbit ceases to exist because it can no longer escape earth's gravity well.

[Jamesqf]

@Jamessqf.  True, unless you can harness the high frequencies of those high voltage potentials. By adding more windings, the voltage and current are amplified in a Tesla Coil to tremondously high amounts, and mysteriously to the science community without more transformers being implemented. It taps in to a power source not yet seen in that community before.

I have to call BS on that, but it's easy enough to prove me wrong.  Build one, hook it up to a load, and put meters on the input and output sides.

This all begs the obvious question: if there are all these schematics, patents, diagrams, and so on out there, why exactly is it that no one has built one?  Or better yet, why the Chinese haven't made millions and sold them?

They do no such thing. The matter and energy is still there, it's just inside a gravity well so strong that even the light can't escape from it.

And further, an outside observer can tell exactly how much mass-energy a black hole has swallowed, because the mass of the black hole (which is measurable) increases.  It's no different than claiming that the tons of meteors that hit the Earth each day have been consumed.

[NumberCruncher]

This all begs the obvious question: if there are all these schematics, patents, diagrams, and so on out there, why exactly is it that no one has built one?  Or better yet, why the Chinese haven't made millions and sold them?

Because of govt. conspiracies to make us keep buying gas; do keep up ;)

[matchewed]

This all begs the obvious question: if there are all these schematics, patents, diagrams, and so on out there, why exactly is it that no one has built one?  Or better yet, why the Chinese haven't made millions and sold them?

Because even with the advent of the internet, arguably the world's biggest receptacle of knowledge (good and bad alike apparently), the Illuminati have a stranglehold on the mole men and although it may be too obvious to mention they're keen on the Tesla coils.

Joking aside, the Aether was a concept given to the "We don't have a fuckin' clue." They built concepts around it but each experiment failed, but those failures culminated in us being able to come up with different hypotheses. It's a bit like Dark Energy and Dark Matter today. They're just names for something we can inadvertently detect but can't directly detect. Don't try trotting out a disproved hypothesis to explain the functioning of a questionable machine. The Aether was not suppressed, it was found to not exist. The hypothesis was wrong. That's how science works.

*edit* Fun w/ grammar, and I probably still f'd it up.

[Jamesqf]

Because of govt. conspiracies to make us keep buying gas; do keep up ;)

Hummm...  Maybe you should check the sales and current stock price of Tesla?

[BC_Goldman]

Joking aside, the Aether was a concept given to the "We don't have a fuckin' clue." They built concepts around it but each experiment failed, but those failures culminated in us being able to come up with different hypotheses. It's a bit like Dark Energy and Dark Matter today. They're just names for something we can inadvertently detect but can't directly detect. Don't try trotting out a disproved hypothesis to explain the functioning of a questionable machine. The Aether was not suppressed, it was found to not exist. The hypothesis was wrong. That's how science works.

I thought I remembered reading something somewhere about the Aether theory and it being disproved but I didn't remember off-hand where I read it.

[Rickk]

I don't know what it is about this thread . . . .

It is like an accident on the side of the road, I know I shouldn't slow down and look at it, but I can't help it . . . . . .

I feel this draw to keep reading even though I can feel myself becoming dumber the more I read ;-)

This has almost become my favorite thread for entertainment . . . . Anyone else feeling the same draw?

[AlmostIndependent]

Anyone else feeling the same draw?

Yep.

[arebelspy]

I don't know what it is about this thread . . . .

It is like an accident on the side of the road, I know I shouldn't slow down and look at it, but I can't help it . . . . . .

I feel this draw to keep reading even though I can feel myself becoming dumber the more I read ;-)

This has almost become my favorite thread for entertainment . . . . Anyone else feeling the same draw?

Pretty sure the suction from this thread could be harnessed for free energy...

[davisgang90]

This all begs the obvious question: if there are all these schematics, patents, diagrams, and so on out there, why exactly is it that no one has built one?  Or better yet, why the Chinese haven't made millions and sold them?

Because of govt. conspiracies to make us keep buying gas; do keep up ;)

It's the Pentavirate....

Stuart Mackenzie: Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny Jim, that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.
Tony Giardino: So who's in this Pentavirate?
Stuart Mackenzie: The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee *beady* eyes, and that smug look on his face. "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"
Charlie Mackenzie: Dad, how can you hate "The Colonel"?
Stuart Mackenzie: Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smartass!

[Roland of Gilead]

Gravity is a dent in the fabric of space-time and the ripples from this dent propagate at the speed of light in a vacuum.  If you were able to create or destroy matter via free energy, then you could in theory create gravitation ripples that would reflect from each source, amplifying to the point that a hole is ripped in space-time.  You could then travel through this hole and exit at a point before this thread existed and delete your account, thus saving yourself from the effects.  A paradox for sure.

[arebelspy]

Gravity is a dent in the fabric of space-time and the ripples from this dent propagate at the speed of light in a vacuum.  If you were able to create or destroy matter via free energy, then you could in theory create gravitation ripples that would reflect from each source, amplifying to the point that a hole is ripped in space-time.  You could then travel through this hole and exit at a point before this thread existed and delete your account, thus saving yourself from the effects.  A paradox for sure.

I'm picturing a scene in a movie where someone starts a slow clap, then everyone joins in and it gets faster and faster and then eventually even the antagonist nods in grudging respect and starts clapping.

This post is that first clap, and FYC is the guy who eventually would applaud this as well.

Well played.

[Freeyourchains2]

Gravity is a dent in the fabric of space-time and the ripples from this dent propagate at the speed of light in a vacuum.  If you were able to create or destroy matter via free energy, then you could in theory create gravitation ripples that would reflect from each source, amplifying to the point that a hole is ripped in space-time.  You could then travel through this hole and exit at a point before this thread existed and delete your account, thus saving yourself from the effects.  A paradox for sure.

You sound like the guy who rolls a boulder to block out the others from ever seeing the light outside of the cave.

Tesla and many others had enough brilliant ideas outside of the normal and culture of that time period and apparently this one, so the FBI did a full scale investigation on his personal belongings and took ownership of all his inventions and unpublished journals they found after his death in the hotel New Yorker for "Classified National Security" interest. They must have liked what they found as most of it remains classified to this day. The government's ongoing mission: to continue having power and control over the citizens.

Reference: FBI Vault Nichola Tesla Files available for download here: http://vault.fbi.gov/search?SearchableText=tesla

Brought to you by the tax payers dollars.

[Jamesqf]

They must have liked what they found as most of it remains classified to this day.

Now really.  If it's classified, how come you know all about it?  Mental telepathy?  Does that work even through your tinfoil hat?

As we keep telling you, there's a simple, obvious way to prove your theories correct: use those schematics, build the device, and demonstrate that it works.

[Daley]

As we keep telling you, there's a simple, obvious way to prove your theories correct: use those schematics, build the device, and demonstrate that it works.

Don't even need to build, just take a trip to Griffith Observatory and make some friends. (The Tesla coil there is a fun exhibit, by the way.)

Now, Tesla coils do work, though I'm not sure they quite work entirely as they're being presented by FreeYourChains.

The universe holds many mysteries and possibilities that we can only dream of, and no matter how much mankind thinks they have worked out about those mysteries, we're still only at the tip of the iceberg so to speak... and I'm not going to say that tapping into Aether/Dark Matter/Zero Point Energy/unicorn farts/whathaveyou for ridiculous amounts of energy isn't a potential possibility. What I am instead going to say is very much grounded in reality:

1) No matter the source of power, there is always a (not so) hidden cost. Even if Tesla's energy generation abilities are possible, we're messing with physics and energies we simply have no current fundamental understanding about. (Granted, experimentation leads to understanding, but we're still dealing with an inescapably massive black box with an entire portion of creation that we simply cannot observe due to how we're built.) To tap that energy without understanding or consideration to the ramifications of doing so could be dangerous.

2) Limitless energy leads to limitless abuse, because mankind is inherently greedy and selfish. Finite resources leads to wiser decision making in its application and usage. Even the cleanest, most abundant, and least damaging energy sources to our immediate four-dimensional, Newtonian space-time environment will have very real and immediate waste energy dumped into our environment as a result of its use.

Even if the whole conservation of energy thing holds true with this stuff as it's likely nothing more than supraluminal matter-energy, we still have to deal with the repercussions of using it because entropy is a proven constant, and it'd probably be impossible to exchange the waste back across the gap and it'll just keep accumulating on our end. One doesn't need to be a rocket surgeon to understand that either option (dumping energy into an unobservable dimension or allowing the accumulating waste energy to amass here) is a very bad thing. That also kind of ties back into point one: If there's a few extra dimensions of reality out there that we can't observe, it means we probably exist there on some level as well even if we can't experience it. Best not to mess with power beyond our sphere of understanding not knowing the consequences of doing so.

So, even if there is a conspiracy to hold down this technology, I have a hard time believing that the resultant moratorium on its use is anything but a good thing.

[Rickk]

As we keep telling you, there's a simple, obvious way to prove your theories correct: use those schematics, build the device, and demonstrate that it works.

Don't even need to build, just take a trip to Griffith Observatory and make some friends. (The Tesla coil there is a fun exhibit, by the way.)

Now, Tesla coils do work, though I'm not sure they quite work entirely as they're being presented by FreeYourChains.

I am going to bet that no one at Griffith Observatory is claiming their Tesla coil generates more power than it takes in!

The main thrust of FreeYourChains is that it is possible to get free energy because the device generates more power than it takes in.

I will second the motion for FreeYourChains to just build the machine and prove to everyone that it is possible, because claiming on the internet that you are smarter than ALL of the science community is not what I would call a credible stance. 
Building this "simple" device would end the conversation and prove FreeYourChains as the mastermind claimed.

[Jamesqf]

Now, Tesla coils do work, though I'm not sure they quite work entirely as they're being presented by FreeYourChains.

Sure they work, it's just that they do something quite different that FRC and his cohort think they do.  They convert low-voltage, high current to high voltage, low current, much as a standard transformer does.  (But can produce much higher voltages.)  However, the actual amount of energy remains the same.  (Actually, it's less, due to inevitable losses.)

That appears to be the the root of this "free energy" delusion.  The people who push it don't know enough about electrical fundamentals to understand the relationships between voltage, current, and power.

[GuitarStv]

Tesla and many others had enough brilliant ideas outside of the normal and culture of that time period and apparently this one, so the FBI did a full scale investigation on his personal belongings and took ownership of all his inventions and unpublished journals they found after his death in the hotel New Yorker for "Classified National Security" interest. They must have liked what they found as most of it remains classified to this day. The government's ongoing mission: to continue having power and control over the citizens.

Reference: FBI Vault Nichola Tesla Files available for download here: http://vault.fbi.gov/search?SearchableText=tesla

Brought to you by the tax payers dollars.

Any chance that you've read through these FBI documents?  They pretty clearly state that some wild claims were being made, and that someone should look into it.  Nobody at the FBI actually did and the case opened about him was closed without anyone taking his claims seriously.  Very little in the records is actually redacted . . . you can get a pretty clear picture of what happened from them.

Some men from another government organization ('The Office of Alien Property' - presumably since Tesla was Yugoslavian and not American) seized his stuff after Tesla's death.  This organization sent all materials of Tesla's on to his heir, one Sava Kosanovic . . . who confirmed that everything was accounted for except for an award (an Edison medal) which was presumed lost or stolen.

The FBI notes that it had been erroneously reported in a book published in 1944 that FBI agents seized the materials, but felt that since this was after the death of Tesla and there was little interest in the man, there was no point in forcing the publisher to redact the information.

So, if by full scale investigation you mean that a couple guys wrote some pretty threadbare reports that were closed without any real investigation. . . yes, that took place.  The FBI never actually took possession of anything that Tesla owned, so it would be hard for them to classify it.  There's also the matter of Tesla's heir confirming that Tesla's work had been returned to him (it was mostly put in the Tesla museum in Yugoslavia - aside from the missing 400$ medal according to the Kenneth Swezey letter).

[BC_Goldman]

You beat me to it. I just finished reading through almost 300 pages from the link. It seems obvious to me that FYC didn't read any of it as they paint the opposite picture of what he claims.

[matchewed]

That's just what they want you to think.

[davisgang90]

That's just what they want you to think.

[Freeyourchains2]

Of course i read through them all. They are in support of my claims as a reference of suppression of Tesla's possession as the FBI will go to full lengths to debunk all inventions, materials, scientific discoveries, etc, for the best of "National Interest".  The classification for decades and then the recent declassification and eventual release from the FBI vault shows more credibility as to the supreme suppression of electrical inventors and engineers in the last 100 years. From what you infer and how you reacted, the agenda of the FBI was well received to help disprove interest in Tesla and to suppress his lost inventions from ever reaching the public's interest. Yet it should be obvious not to trust the FBI's cover up inquiries.

On page 90 for one case of an example, the new "acting" director is quick to respond to inquiries that the Office of Alien Property from the Department of Justice took ownership of all his possessions. Don't you find it a bit odd? Just like how they usually shuffle programs from one department to another so no one can find a trail?

And to make sure all claims are suppressed properly, a technical aide John Trump, a Custodian of the Office of Alien Property from the Department of Justice with a letter to say Tesla's last 15 years were speculative, philosophical and no scientific papers or evidence was found with his possession; yet,  the office takes all possessions, papers, etc and then eventually hands them over to the U.S. Air Force for development and research. Page 178-179. Clearly this is contradicting what the letters are saying and is why the FBI did the Investigation into the matter.  (The U.S. Air Force was interested in acquiring Tesla's possessions for weaponry; while the FBI was hot on the trail as what is going on within the government itself, to help sustain it's own survival. But that topic is for a different thread.)

And of course Page 150 with regards to Tesla's possessions states the US Air Force had commissioned request for the property of Tesla's equipment from the Office of Alien Property for experimentation. One of the last times any agency or Office of Alien Property admitted to having Tesla's possessions.

Which shows another feud that someone is covering up something and not telling the full truth here, as the FBI investigates some more.

Many other never before mentioned "Lost inventions" turn up in this FBI investigative report. Further claiming suppression of his works. A Particle accelerator project was in development between Tesla and Soviet engineers at the time to have a tesla coil reach 50 million volts and accelerate particles up to 350 miles per second. (Exhibit Q) These findings however were also dismissed in papers under the Office of Alien Property. (more modern term "Office of Foreign Materials" ).

But i am glad you took the time to read it and open your mind up to the possibilities of governmental suppression of Inventors and world changing inventions. Clearly the FBI was interested in investigating where these possessions ended up, as other agencies wanted to acquire them for their own development and research.

As for more references and information regarding his lost inventions see here: http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=954

[brewer12345]

Hocus, is that you?

Of course i read through them all. They are in support of my claims as a reference of suppression of Tesla's possession as the FBI will go to full lengths to debunk all inventions, materials, scientific discoveries, etc, for the best of "National Interest".  The classification for decades and then the recent declassification and eventual release from the FBI vault shows more credibility as to the supreme suppression of electrical inventors and engineers in the last 100 years. From what you infer and how you reacted, the agenda of the FBI was well received to help disprove interest in Tesla and to suppress his lost inventions from ever reaching the public's interest. Yet it should be obvious not to trust the FBI's cover up inquiries.

On page 90 for one case of an example, the new "acting" director is quick to respond to inquiries that the Office of Alien Property from the Department of Justice took ownership of all his possessions. Don't you find it a bit odd? Just like how they usually shuffle programs from one department to another so no one can find a trail?

And to make sure all claims are suppressed properly, a technical aide John Trump, a Custodian of the Office of Alien Property from the Department of Justice with a letter to say Tesla's last 15 years were speculative, philosophical and no scientific papers or evidence was found with his possession; yet,  the office takes all possessions, papers, etc and then eventually hands them over to the U.S. Air Force for development and research. Page 178-179. Clearly this is contradicting what the letters are saying and is why the FBI did the Investigation into the matter.  (The U.S. Air Force was interested in acquiring Tesla's possessions for weaponry; while the FBI was hot on the trail as what is going on within the government itself, to help sustain it's own survival. But that topic is for a different thread.)

And of course Page 150 with regards to Tesla's possessions states the US Air Force had commissioned request for the property of Tesla's equipment from the Office of Alien Property for experimentation. One of the last times any agency or Office of Alien Property admitted to having Tesla's possessions.

Which shows another feud that someone is covering up something and not telling the full truth here, as the FBI investigates some more.

Many other never before mentioned "Lost inventions" turn up in this FBI investigative report. Further claiming suppression of his works. A Particle accelerator project was in development between Tesla and Soviet engineers at the time to have a tesla coil reach 50 million volts and accelerate particles up to 350 miles per second. (Exhibit Q) These findings however were also dismissed in papers under the Office of Alien Property. (more modern term "Office of Foreign Materials" ).

But i am glad you took the time to read it and open your mind up to the possibilities of governmental suppression of Inventors and world changing inventions. Clearly the FBI was interested in investigating where these possessions ended up, as other agencies wanted to acquire them for their own development and research.

As for more references and information regarding his lost inventions see here: http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=954

[Jamesqf]

A Particle accelerator project was in development between Tesla and Soviet engineers at the time to have a tesla coil reach 50 million volts and accelerate particles up to 350 miles per second.

And so?  Some of the first primitive particle accelerators did use Tesla coils, but better methods were soon discovered. (Basically elaborations of Lawrence's cyclotron.)  The LHC is currently up around 7 TeV, over 100,000 times as much as that project, and is capable of accelerating protons to 99.9999991% times the speed of light.

[GuitarStv]

FYC . . . I think you're missing an important discovery from those FBI documents.


Office of Alien Property.

Alien.

Tesla.

Do I have to connect the dots for you?

This man agrees:


And he's a doctor or something.