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Re: Fasting
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2014, 12:29:25 AM »

Hmm: http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/healthy-food-dr-fuhrman-on-fasting.html

The key problem: why trust that one person?

Also it focuses on fasting for weight loss (and how it may not help). What if that's not your purpose at all?
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Re: Fasting
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2014, 06:10:16 PM »
Off topic:  Every time I am scanning the page quickly and see this thread, I think the topic is 'farting.'  That's all; carry on.

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Re: Fasting
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2014, 10:38:49 AM »


Hmm: http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/healthy-food-dr-fuhrman-on-fasting.html

The key problem: why trust that one person?

Also it focuses on fasting for weight loss (and how it may not help). What if that's not your purpose at all?

Good point! I dunno!

I trust Joel Furhman cause I'm reading his book Eat to Live and it seems to be based upon sound research.

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Re: Fasting
« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2014, 11:37:03 AM »
I've read some interesting articles aboutq reducing cholesterol levels by fasting.  I will be trying to do this in the near future.

You can reduce your cholesterol by reducing any animal products, meat, fish, fowl, etc.  Cholesterol is a component of animal cell walls, just as fiber is a component of plant cell walls.  Thus, any plant food does not have cholesterol, and any animal food does not have fiber.  So uptake your fiber by eating starches, rice, grains, beans, veggies, fruits, sweet potatoes, etc. and decrease your animal intake and your cholesterol will go down.  The more you change the component of your food (animal vs. plant) the more change/drop you will see.

By the way, our bodies make our own cholesterol (in the amount we need) so any extra we eat by eating animals goes to the veins/arteries and clogs them (along with the saturated fat in the meat/dairy).

Fasting will also reduce your cholesterol because you're not eating it.

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Re: Fasting
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2014, 11:39:59 AM »
There is a place call True North in CA that does doctor supervised fasts.

I've heard it's helpful for people with colitis or Crohn's disease because it gives their gut time to heal up.  But then they have to also be careful of what they eat afterwards.  As I understand dairy and meat, and maybe some other certain foods can be problematic for them.  But I am not an expert, that's just what I've heard as far as benefits of doctor supervised fasting for some people with those diseases.

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Re: Fasting
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2014, 05:42:09 PM »
I've lost 9lbs fasting on alternate days since August. To be honest, I haven't noticed any other physical benefits. But it's certainly mustachian for my grocery budget as  I've dropped from 21 meals/week to only 11 max.  On fasting days, I eat up to 500 calories. Although I'm allowed to eat normally on the other days, I don't have much of an appetite, so end up eating only two meals and maybe a snack. 

I've read some interesting articles aboutq reducing cholesterol levels by fasting.  I will be trying to do this in the near future.

You can reduce your cholesterol by reducing any animal products, meat, fish, fowl, etc.  Cholesterol is a component of animal cell walls, just as fiber is a component of plant cell walls.  Thus, any plant food does not have cholesterol, and any animal food does not have fiber.  So uptake your fiber by eating starches, rice, grains, beans, veggies, fruits, sweet potatoes, etc. and decrease your animal intake and your cholesterol will go down.  The more you change the component of your food (animal vs. plant) the more change/drop you will see.

By the way, our bodies make our own cholesterol (in the amount we need) so any extra we eat by eating animals goes to the veins/arteries and clogs them (along with the saturated fat in the meat/dairy).

Fasting will also reduce your cholesterol because you're not eating it.

The diet-heart hypothesis is outdated/incomplete. See for example http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy and http://drhyman.com/blog/2014/02/07/eggs-dont-cause-heart-attacks-sugar/#close and references cited in each article.

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Re: Fasting
« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2014, 11:19:14 AM »
I've lost 9lbs fasting on alternate days since August. To be honest, I haven't noticed any other physical benefits. But it's certainly mustachian for my grocery budget as  I've dropped from 21 meals/week to only 11 max.  On fasting days, I eat up to 500 calories. Although I'm allowed to eat normally on the other days, I don't have much of an appetite, so end up eating only two meals and maybe a snack. 

I've read some interesting articles aboutq reducing cholesterol levels by fasting.  I will be trying to do this in the near future.

You can reduce your cholesterol by reducing any animal products, meat, fish, fowl, etc.  Cholesterol is a component of animal cell walls, just as fiber is a component of plant cell walls.  Thus, any plant food does not have cholesterol, and any animal food does not have fiber.  So uptake your fiber by eating starches, rice, grains, beans, veggies, fruits, sweet potatoes, etc. and decrease your animal intake and your cholesterol will go down.  The more you change the component of your food (animal vs. plant) the more change/drop you will see.

By the way, our bodies make our own cholesterol (in the amount we need) so any extra we eat by eating animals goes to the veins/arteries and clogs them (along with the saturated fat in the meat/dairy).

Fasting will also reduce your cholesterol because you're not eating it.

The diet-heart hypothesis is outdated/incomplete. See for example http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy and http://drhyman.com/blog/2014/02/07/eggs-dont-cause-heart-attacks-sugar/#close and references cited in each article.

I disagree with those articles.  Plenty of doctors dispute the paleo diet, eggs, cholesterol, saturated fat.  How would you account for Dr. McDougall's program results?  Or the pictures of cleaner arteries from the Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease book (Dr. Esselstyn), among others?

https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2013nl/aug/travis.htm

and www.drmcdougall.com for more info

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Re: Fasting
« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2014, 01:51:27 AM »
Fasting helps in cleaning of the body and tests your patience on over eating. You can do do fasting after 3 or 4 months.

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« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2014, 02:49:44 AM »
I personally think fasting for physical health reasons is nonsense.  If you want to do good things for your physical health eat properly for your body and activity levels and lift a weight or two.

Personally, when I go too long without eating my brain shuts down and my energy levels go way down.  What fun is that?

If you are doing it as a mental exercise or for some other purpose...whatever blows your skirt up.
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Re: Fasting
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2014, 02:51:32 AM »
Fasting helps in cleaning of the body and tests your patience on over eating. You can do do fasting after 3 or 4 months.

Could you elaborate how fasting cleans the body?
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Re: Fasting
« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2014, 11:51:30 AM »
I follow Ori Hofmekler's Warrior Diet way of eating.  Highly recommend giving it a try.  For me it's not a diet, but a way of life.  Undereating and/or fasting during the day, and one big meal at night, with as high of quality foods as possible.