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Megma

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Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« on: March 10, 2020, 09:12:32 AM »
TLDR: I want to rent an RV for an upcoming trip but I know nothing about RVs or RV rentals, what should I look for? I will have 2 people and thinking a class C.

DH and I are looking at going on a trip to the Grand Canyon. We want to rent an RV so we can stay nearby and also we have in mind to RV around in retirement but literally know nothing about RVs (neither of us have ever stayed in one). I am looking at RV rentals in Phoenix and Vegas (depending where we fly into). I think I want a class C because it’s small and driveable and we’re flying in so won’t have a vehicle to tow something.

Tell me about:
-   Emptying the tank, do parks have a place I drive up to do this?
-   Using the generator – is this AC/heat? I see the rentals cap the daily usage but what would I be using this for?
-   Hidden fees I should be aware of with this kind of rental, what inclusions should I check for? It’s already looking like I will be way over the mileage just to drive to/from grand canyon.
-   Parking
-   RV camp grounds at/near grand canyon (I have read some on NPS website but any tips are welcome)

Other Grand Canyon suggestions are also welcome, I have been but for various reasons, I didn’t get the full experience. I would love to hear your favorite activities.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2020, 09:15:48 AM »
From what I've seen, you park an RV you bought in your driveway or side-yard and then move it almost never. Think of it as an addition to the house.

Kidding a bit of course, but good on you for renting first. Things can easily cost as much as a house so proceed with caution.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2020, 09:26:19 AM »
What you're talking about is a motor home - are you sure want this and not just a towable trailer?  Of course, for the latter, you need a vehicle capable of towing the weight, but you can then leave it parked and just use the vehicle for running around, which gives better gas mileage.

Campgrounds that cater to Rvs of any sort have sewer and electrical hook-ups, but make sure you can identify which tank is which (white, grey and black water) and empty them in the correct order.

Whoever you rent from should be able to give you a quick rundown of all the essential features.  It's really not that hard.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2020, 09:38:17 AM »
when i was a kid my parents had a class c motorhome. we used it quite a bit but it was noisy and got terrible gas mileage. i still enjoy camping so i bought a mini van that's long enough to sleep in. most rv parks have toilets and showers so all i need is a place to sleep and cook. plus it's easy to drive and gets good gas mileage. that said, there is a company called JUCY that rents dodge caravans that are fitted out for camping. it may not be your thing but then again it might. most rv parks have hookups at the site for sewer, water and electricity. no need to run a generator. dumping the sewage is a little hard to get used to. have fun!

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2020, 11:13:35 AM »
If you rent from a reputable company, like Cruise America, they will have a helpline you can call to answer questions that crop up underway.

Dumping the sewage: If you choose parks, this will usually be available right at your site.

Generator: It depends on your set up and where you choose to park. If you are at parks with facilities, you can plug in the vehicle, rather than running the generator. Otherwise, you may need the generator to run the AC in extreme conditions. If you wanted to stay someplace for a long time and run the TV and other toys, you would use the generator to recharge the batteries, as well. Heat may be on the generator or it may be propane heat.

Inclusions: You need to decide what works for you. We rented near home, and so did not get any of their packages, we just brought our own bedding and kitchenware. If you are flying to Pheonix to rent an RV, you will probably want those packages. With Cruise America, we didn't come across any surprise fees. You just need to be aware of your mileage.

Parking: I always park an RV on the far side of the parking lot from what I am going to, as it doesn't fit in a normal space. When we did a Grand Canyon trip, the Grand Canyon park was our only park. Everywhere else, we just went found recommended parking spots. We parked on one side of Sonoma on the way there, and the completely opposite direction on the way back. We parked on BLM land in the middle of nowhere one night and accidentally parked within eyesight of a border patrol station another night. They use very bright lights, we weren't able to stargaze at all.

I highly recommend the Grand Canyon RV park, as it allows you to take the shuttle bus to visit other areas of the park. This way you can have two or three days (or more if you are hiking a lot) at the park, without dealing with traffic at all.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2020, 11:18:26 AM »
Emptying the tanks is easy.  If you don't want to have to drive to a dump station to do so, look for "full hook up" campsites.  Where you can just hook up your sewer line at the camp site.  Much easier.  Basically you just connect a hose to the dump line on your RV, and connect the other end to the sewer.  They all use the same hose/connection type.  Then you pull the black water lever to empty your black water (toilet), then pull the grey to empty the gray after (shower/sink).  The idea is to let the less nasty grey water wash out the hose and what not from the black tank.  That's really all there is to it.

Generator would be for AC, generally.  In a rental like that, you'll need the generator for most anything electronic in the camper other than probably lighting.  The refrigerator can run off propane if you wanted.  If you are at a campsite with a hookup, you wouldn't even need the generator.

A lot of people rent the RV closer to where they are staying.  Or find something with unlimited mileage, etc.  You seem to have a good idea of what to do in that case.

The ONE thing I would warn you about, is not having a vehicle.  Once you park that camper and hook it up, it's not mobile anymore.  And you are virtually stuck.  Definitely consider that in your plans.  You may be able to get by if you have bicycles.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2020, 12:42:40 PM »
We just bought a new-to-us RV, and DH has owned one before. YouTube is your friend. There are answers to every one of your questions and more there. These videos are made by people who are actually doing the things you aspire to. It's a total black hole, but watching videos costs nothing but time and could save you from expensive mistakes.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2020, 01:32:03 PM »
A class b or c is a good choice for your trip.  Everyone else pretty much covered the rest.   (I work on these things for a living.)

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2020, 01:49:50 PM »
PTF.  We are thinking about a Grand Canyon / Zion trip next year - I hadn't thought about the RV option so curious to see everyone's comments.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2020, 02:11:48 PM »
Buy used.  RVs depreciate like crazy when people realize that they've wasted a huge chunk of money.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2020, 05:32:25 PM »
Buy used.  RVs depreciate like crazy when people realize that they've wasted a huge chunk of money.

I'd buy a motorhome used.  A travel trailer can be so cheap, that it's not always a bad idea to buy new - especially since you don't know how well it was maintained.  I'd say "buy cheap."  We got our brand new 27' travel trailer for $16k.  It's a pretty darn nice, too.  For that price it was worth just buying new - new AC and appliances, no worries about leaks/maintenance issues, rust, etc.
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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2020, 05:33:00 PM »
PTF.  We are thinking about a Grand Canyon / Zion trip next year - I hadn't thought about the RV option so curious to see everyone's comments.

How many people on your trip?  If just 2, I'd almost consider a class B.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2020, 06:30:45 PM »
PTF.  We are thinking about a Grand Canyon / Zion trip next year - I hadn't thought about the RV option so curious to see everyone's comments.

How many people on your trip?  If just 2, I'd almost consider a class B.

Not to hijack OP's thread but will be 2 of us.  Very prelim plan would be to fly into Vegas, drive to Grand Canyon for a couple days then to Zion for 3 or 4, then back to Vegas for a couple days.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2020, 10:12:50 PM »
Don't know what your expectations are but let me recommend you consider a van camper. Smaller, more fuel efficient, easier to drive, easier to transition from driving to camping to driving.

On the other hand, not as much space, fewer camper amenities. Our's has a stove, sink and beds. Good for two adults or two adults plus little children. It does not have camper air conditioning but you could use a portable A/C unit. In the desert a "swamp cooler" (evaporative cooler) would be a reasonable solution.

It is an intermediate step between tent camping and RV camping.

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2020, 11:03:56 AM »
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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2020, 12:35:50 PM »
I'm just going to leave this here...NSFW

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Re: Explain RVs to me like I'm 5
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2020, 07:21:29 AM »
Thanks everyone for the advice, I feel much better about emptying the tanks and the generator fees. It sounds like I want to make sure I'm camping some place with hookups to avoid generator useage; which is caped on most of the rentals I'm seeing. I was wondering how the limits could be so strict but now it sounds like most of the time you don't use it and are using the hookups instead.

@SunnyDays in this case we do want a motor home and not a travel trailer since otherwise we'd have to rent both the trailer and a vehicle to tow it. In my early cost research, this option is significantly more expensive (not quite double but almost) but it may depend on what kind of activities we do, because I don't really want to be driving around in a house all the time and based on the mileage restrictions we can pretty much only drive to the Grand Canyon and back. When we retire to full-time travel (the eventual plan) we will definitely be getting a trailer setup.

@ixtap thank you for all of the tips. Cruise america prices were much higher but maybe I'll check them out more based on your recommendation.

@GuitarStv we aren't buying at all, just renting for a trip. We will eventually buy one in retirement but do you think I'd buy new? I mean it's MMM forum :) If I was gonna buy new I wouldn't tell y'all! LOL

@Just Joe and @EngagedToFIRE ok I thought that class C was smaller than class B (which looks more like a camper van) because A is the largest. I will look more at the B size because there will only be 2 of us.

Thank you for all of the suggestions! I'd be happy to hear more about Grand Canyon area sites we can check out!

 

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