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« on: July 25, 2016, 11:55:50 AM »
I realize that most mustachians don't use vehicles often, but I frequently drive one for work. Anyone have a decent dash cam that they could recommend?

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Re: Dash Cam
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2016, 12:03:26 PM »
Why do you feel the need for one?

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2016, 12:17:26 PM »
I got this one to use on my bicycle. I like it so far. Not only does it not have any unnecessary extra features (like a screen), the features it does have, such as auto-on, are well suited to dashcam use.

If you plan to use it always attached to your car's electrical system, replace the battery with a super capacitor.


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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2016, 02:43:10 PM »
I have the Makeit HD mini. Was about $50. Hides behind the rear view mirror. Never Need to touch it except if I need to review a clip. Would never be without one. You never know when some idiot will run a red light or whatever. Cheap piece of mind. Mine will also record if anyone bumps the car.

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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2016, 02:54:01 PM »
I looked for one a few years ago and was not impressed with what was available then.   

Driving and cycling I have had enough close calls to want a recording if something went down.  Also could be good if you get a ticket to show a judge you are not guilty.  I also have been close to other accidents but not really seen what happened where a camera might have caught the sequence and been useful to someone else.  I agree is not needed but can provide some peace of mind. 


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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2016, 02:59:31 PM »
I agree that prices have come down so much and features (storage, user interface) are good enough that I think there's a compelling reason to get one.

If it records another driver being at fault in an accident it would mean I don't have to pay my deductible (probably).  I've got a $500 collision deductible and the you can get a cam for $50-100.  All that's left is an estimation on how likely a contested accident will be over the expected lifespan of dash-cam.  For me personally, I have to decide if there's a >10% chance that i'll get into an accident where I'm not at fault over the next few years.

I've decided if I start needing to drive more than 2-3x/month (very possible with upcoming job prospects) I'll consider buying one.

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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2016, 03:55:07 PM »
I got this one to use on my bicycle. I like it so far. Not only does it not have any unnecessary extra features (like a screen), the features it does have, such as auto-on, are well suited to dashcam use.

If you plan to use it always attached to your car's electrical system, replace the battery with a super capacitor.

Do you put it away in the rain? Reviews were saying it's not waterproof nor are there waterproof cases for it.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2016, 04:24:40 PM by johnny847 »

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Re: Dash Cam
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2016, 04:06:53 PM »
Why do you feel the need for one?

Liability. Company has a pretty strict accident policy and if it comes down to it, I'd prefer to spend $100 on a dash cam to avoid he-said/she-said.

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2016, 04:15:38 PM »
Why do you feel the need for one?

Liability. Company has a pretty strict accident policy and if it comes down to it, I'd prefer to spend $100 on a dash cam to avoid he-said/she-said.
Yes, it's nice to pretend that everyone is a responsible, reasonable adult... except a lot of people that get in to accidents will lie through their teeth that they were 1000% not at fault, definitely not on their phone distracted just a  little bit, and definitely not drowsy when they plowed through that red light.

Naturally, having your shit together means that you Could handle the problems financially even when general society fails you, but with that being said, I'd still rather ensure we keep everyone honest, than have to end up depending on them to be.

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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2016, 04:40:16 PM »
Why do you feel the need for one?

Liability. Company has a pretty strict accident policy and if it comes down to it, I'd prefer to spend $100 on a dash cam to avoid he-said/she-said.
Yes, it's nice to pretend that everyone is a responsible, reasonable adult... except a lot of people that get in to accidents will lie through their teeth that they were 1000% not at fault, definitely not on their phone distracted just a  little bit, and definitely not drowsy when they plowed through that red light.

Naturally, having your shit together means that you Could handle the problems financially even when general society fails you, but with that being said, I'd still rather ensure we keep everyone honest, than have to end up depending on them to be.

Yup. Here's one example:

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/02/honda-s2000-driver-says-dashcam-saves.html

This guy was driving a sports car. If this was merely a he said she said situation, there is a pretty obvious potential for the bias that a young guy driving a sports car is more likely to run a red light as than a woman driving a minivan.


Now obviously, we should make decisions in our lives based on one example. Nor should we live our lives in fear of everything that could possibly happen. I did buy a dashcam (I didn't mention the particular model because it seems to be faulty - I'm currently trying to resolve the issue with the manufacturer) but the primary reason wasn't financial. It was that I'd be incredibly pissed if somebody else was at fault for an accident but I still ended up having to pay even a single penny because it became a he said she said situation. I hold grudges and I'd have a hard time letting something like this go, which would mean I'd spend more time out of my life than I care to admit just being irritable. Avoiding that alone would be worth it to me. I'd have no trouble replacing my car if it was totalled, and such financial concerns are secondary.

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2016, 05:37:39 PM »
I just purchased this one from Amazon recently. I got it because it is a great peace of mind. Too many distracted drivers and it's a helluva lot better than trying to argue the truth with unreasonable people.

So far, it's been great. It mounts right under/behind the rear view mirror. It gets its power from your cars 12V outlet. They provide a really long power cord so you can route it under the trim around the frame of your windshield and door. I tucked my cord behind the trim and you cannot even tell there is a cord there. It powers up as soon as the car is started and turns off shortly after turning off the car. It records in a loop pattern. It comes with a 32GB card and will record over previous footage once it gets full. You can read more on the link. I like it a lot and the picture is super clear.

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2016, 05:59:04 PM »
I just purchased this one from Amazon recently. I got it because it is a great peace of mind. Too many distracted drivers and it's a helluva lot better than trying to argue the truth with unreasonable people.

So far, it's been great. It mounts right under/behind the rear view mirror. It gets its power from your cars 12V outlet. ...It records in a loop pattern. It comes with a 32GB card and will record over previous footage once it gets full. You can read more on the link. I like it a lot and the picture is super clear.

About how many hours of footage will the 32GB card do at max rez. before it loops over?

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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2016, 06:01:44 PM »
iPod or iPhone with a suction cup mount to the windshield.

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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2016, 08:00:54 PM »
I got this one to use on my bicycle. I like it so far. Not only does it not have any unnecessary extra features (like a screen), the features it does have, such as auto-on, are well suited to dashcam use.

If you plan to use it always attached to your car's electrical system, replace the battery with a super capacitor.

Do you put it away in the rain? Reviews were saying it's not waterproof nor are there waterproof cases for it.

Yes, I avoid using it in the rain.

Good point bringing up that flaw (which I had forgotten about, or I would have mentioned), but then again, I don't know of anything smaller/cheaper than a GoPro that doesn't also have that issue.

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2016, 08:02:20 PM »
iPod or iPhone with a suction cup mount to the windshield.


Are there apps built to facilitate this?  At $50-$100 for a dedicated unit I wonder if it would make sense to re-purpose an I-device for this.

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2016, 08:43:25 PM »
iPod or iPhone with a suction cup mount to the windshield.


Are there apps built to facilitate this?  At $50-$100 for a dedicated unit I wonder if it would make sense to re-purpose an I-device for this.
i use the Camera Zoom FX app in my Moto E as a dash cam

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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2016, 09:09:42 PM »
I just purchased this one from Amazon recently. I got it because it is a great peace of mind. Too many distracted drivers and it's a helluva lot better than trying to argue the truth with unreasonable people.

So far, it's been great. It mounts right under/behind the rear view mirror. It gets its power from your cars 12V outlet. ...It records in a loop pattern. It comes with a 32GB card and will record over previous footage once it gets full. You can read more on the link. I like it a lot and the picture is super clear.

About how many hours of footage will the 32GB card do at max rez. before it loops over?

Not sure as I have not brought it in since the first day I had it. I think there is chart that shows the expected hours per res on the Amazon link.

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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2016, 06:11:44 AM »
I just purchased this one from Amazon recently. I got it because it is a great peace of mind. Too many distracted drivers and it's a helluva lot better than trying to argue the truth with unreasonable people.

So far, it's been great. It mounts right under/behind the rear view mirror. It gets its power from your cars 12V outlet. ...It records in a loop pattern. It comes with a 32GB card and will record over previous footage once it gets full. You can read more on the link. I like it a lot and the picture is super clear.

About how many hours of footage will the 32GB card do at max rez. before it loops over?

Not sure as I have not brought it in since the first day I had it. I think there is chart that shows the expected hours per res on the Amazon link.

so how do you know it's working like it should?  ever wonder that it's just stopped functioning (or never really functioned well to begin with?)  genuinely interested here...

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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2016, 06:27:56 AM »
I just purchased this one from Amazon recently. I got it because it is a great peace of mind. Too many distracted drivers and it's a helluva lot better than trying to argue the truth with unreasonable people.

So far, it's been great. It mounts right under/behind the rear view mirror. It gets its power from your cars 12V outlet. ...It records in a loop pattern. It comes with a 32GB card and will record over previous footage once it gets full. You can read more on the link. I like it a lot and the picture is super clear.

About how many hours of footage will the 32GB card do at max rez. before it loops over?

Not sure as I have not brought it in since the first day I had it. I think there is chart that shows the expected hours per res on the Amazon link.

so how do you know it's working like it should?  ever wonder that it's just stopped functioning (or never really functioned well to begin with?)  genuinely interested here...

Every time you turn on the car, it powers on, and the record light blinks. You can see what the camera sees before the screen goes to screen saver while you're driving. As you're driving, the light blinks, just as it did since I first got it. Since I've seen the recorded video, I am sure it's working just fine. However, as I've said, I've only had it a very short time. I plan to check the files once a week or so. It disconnects very easily.

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Re: Dash Cam
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2016, 09:55:10 AM »
iPod or iPhone with a suction cup mount to the windshield.


Are there apps built to facilitate this?  At $50-$100 for a dedicated unit I wonder if it would make sense to re-purpose an I-device for this.

The standard camera app works great.

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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2016, 10:25:08 AM »
iPod or iPhone with a suction cup mount to the windshield.


Are there apps built to facilitate this?  At $50-$100 for a dedicated unit I wonder if it would make sense to re-purpose an I-device for this.

The standard camera app works great.

Well the standard camera app can record. But it won't automatically delete old files unless you've marked it as protected (because you were in an accident), nor will it start automatically when you start driving. I'm sure an app exists to implement the former option. The latter would be a bit more complicated, but I'd imagine if your car has a bluetooth connection then you could implement that as well.

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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2016, 11:05:18 AM »
Why do you feel the need for one?

Insurance claims.  Bad cop.  Bad driver.  Stuff happens.

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Re: Dash Cam
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2016, 03:20:02 PM »
I like this one for permanent installation. Cheap, 100% reliable (I have 4 in 3 cars for 1.5yrs now) and stealth. There are several versions, do the research for the most current.
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Box-A118-Stealth-Dashboard/dp/B00NG84AT0

for a do-it-all cam, the Mobius is killer. I use it as the bicycle cam and it's super easy to attach to most anything. open source software, very configurable, cheap cheap mounts, etc.
https://www.mobius-actioncam.com/

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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2016, 05:07:08 PM »
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Well the standard camera app can record. But it won't automatically delete old files unless you've marked it as protected (because you were in an accident), nor will it start automatically when you start driving. I'm sure an app exists to implement the former option. The latter would be a bit more complicated, but I'd imagine if your car has a bluetooth connection then you could implement that as well.

You are taking having a car with blue teeth on mmm?  Not sure you can get that off CL for 500$   :-p    Just trash talking

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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2016, 05:44:00 PM »
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Well the standard camera app can record. But it won't automatically delete old files unless you've marked it as protected (because you were in an accident), nor will it start automatically when you start driving. I'm sure an app exists to implement the former option. The latter would be a bit more complicated, but I'd imagine if your car has a bluetooth connection then you could implement that as well.

You are taking having a car with blue teeth on mmm?  Not sure you can get that off CL for 500$   :-p    Just trash talking

Pfft I can get blue teeth for my car


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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2016, 09:04:05 AM »
for a do-it-all cam, the Mobius is killer. I use it as the bicycle cam and it's super easy to attach to most anything. open source software, very configurable, cheap cheap mounts, etc.
https://www.mobius-actioncam.com/

Note that that's the same one I recommended (I just didn't know the brand name).

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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2016, 09:20:48 AM »
for a do-it-all cam, the Mobius is killer. I use it as the bicycle cam and it's super easy to attach to most anything. open source software, very configurable, cheap cheap mounts, etc.
https://www.mobius-actioncam.com/

Note that that's the same one I recommended (I just didn't know the brand name).
Great cam!
Suggest purchase it from one of the 2 or 3 dedicated Mobius vendors, not Amazon, as a lot of the Amazonian Mobii are previous models.

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Re: Dash Cam
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2016, 09:24:20 AM »
I realize that most mustachians don't use vehicles often, but I frequently drive one for work. Anyone have a decent dash cam that they could recommend?

The G1W dash cam is the best bang for the buck.
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Box-Original-Dashboard-Dash/dp/B00FONBG1A

Use this card:
https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-MicroSDHC-Class10-Adapter-TS32GUSDU1E/dp/B00CES44EO

You will be happy.

It will record about 5 hours before it loops over the oldest recording.

One thing, the G1W is so popular that there are counterfeits. They look the same, but have an inferior chip in the cam which results in a substantially degraded picture. Any G1W being sold for under $40 is most likely a counterfeit. Unfortunately, you can also pay full price and get a counterfeit. Buy from a vendor with good reputation and return policy.

Genuine G1W record in .MOV format. The counterfeit ones don't.

This forum is very helpful and full of great information:
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/

The Best “Bang for your Buck” Dash Cams:
https://dashcamtalk.com/

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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2016, 08:16:14 PM »
I have a dash cam, partially because I'm paranoid like that. But more than that, it's because I tend to do a cross-country road trip once a year, and invariably there's some animal or scenery that I want to show someone. So now I just record the whole thing. I keep meaning to make a time-lapse of it.

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« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2016, 06:48:17 PM »
I have a dash cam in my car and also one in my wife's car.  The one in the wife's car is quite low quality, narrow viewing angle, you can can't make out much detail, and it's basically useless at night.  However I only paid about 25 bucks for it, and it' seen going for over 3 years.  The better dash cam is in my car since I do more driving, it has a wide viewing angle, and will pick up details, it's ok at night time. I only paid about $45 for this one, and it's been working for over 2 years.  Each is set on a 2 minute loop and each go about 45 mins before starting to record over the first loop again.

I have them for reasons similar to those already mentioned.  I don't want it to be my word against someone else and come up on the losing end when I am in the right, that would piss me off to no end.  I also have it in the event that I can use the footage to confirm what happened in an accident that I'm not directly involved in.  Also in the event some jackass is driving like a maniac I have evidence to provide to the police. 

Remember to use high speed memory cards in any dash cams you have, I started out using a class 4 in the cheaper dash cam and it seemed to record at about 8 frames a second, I upgraded to a class 10 and it works much better.  I'm not much of a techie, so this was the first time I realized that memory cards have different speeds..but now I know.

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« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2016, 07:07:19 PM »
I am also researching dash cams and I wish to install one in the front and one in the rear.  I encounter many reckless drivers in the City and on the freeways.  So having two dash cams can only help.  Also insurance companies informed me the footage can help tremendously, especially when there is a hit and run. 

My biggest challenge is so far I have not found a good dash cam that will turn on if the car is stuck when it is parked and engine turned off.  I've hard a car hit while parked and a dash cam was not installed.  Thankfully, a kind person not only wrote a note and left it the car, they took pictures of the perp as they sped away.  In the end, the insurance company made the perp pay thanks to the evidence.  But, I am not going to push my luck and rely on the kindness of strangers. :)

QUESTION TO ALL:  Does anyone have any advice on dash cams that work well (good footage especially at night) when the vehicle is not being operated?  Kindly share manufacturer and model numbers.  Thank you!

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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2016, 10:24:58 AM »
Can anyone share? 

QUESTION TO ALL:  Does anyone have any advice on dash cams that work well (good footage especially at night) when the vehicle is not being operated?  Kindly share manufacturer and model numbers.  Thank you!


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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2016, 11:31:59 AM »
BTW, my dash cam came in quite handy a couple weeks ago. An idiot made a left turn in front of me (from the lane to my right) without looking.  There was damage to both our bumpers.  He stopped but then fled without sharing his details with me. He filed a sworn statement at the police station and with his insurance company which indicated I was speeding and the primary cause of the accident.  Then I submitted the dash cam footage which clearly demonstrated otherwise and he backed down. His insurance capitulated. 

Under slightly different circumstances his vehicle could have rolled or gone over a pedestrian, potentially causing a fatality and significantly upping the stakes.  I will keep the camera!

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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2016, 01:31:09 AM »
G1W-CB 1080P HD Car Dash Camera /w Capacitor -www(.)spytecinc(.)com/g1w-cb-1080p-hd-car-dash-camera-w-capacitor(.)html
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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2016, 04:44:42 PM »
G1W-CB 1080P HD Car Dash Camera /w Capacitor -www(.)spytecinc(.)com/g1w-cb-1080p-hd-car-dash-camera-w-capacitor(.)html
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www.spytecinc.com/g1w-cb-1080p-hd-car-dash-camera-w-capacitor.html

Thanks for the tip.  Chatted with them and the product only works when the car is turned on.  So it won't work for my needs.

I need a cam that can record when the engine is off, so it can still turn on and record if someone hits/breaks into the car when it is parked and the engine is off.  Does anyone have a cam that operates when the engine is turned off?  Kindly share. Thanks!

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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2016, 03:10:17 PM »
G1W-CB 1080P HD Car Dash Camera /w Capacitor -www(.)spytecinc(.)com/g1w-cb-1080p-hd-car-dash-camera-w-capacitor(.)html
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www.spytecinc.com/g1w-cb-1080p-hd-car-dash-camera-w-capacitor.html

Thanks for the tip.  Chatted with them and the product only works when the car is turned on.  So it won't work for my needs.

I need a cam that can record when the engine is off, so it can still turn on and record if someone hits/breaks into the car when it is parked and the engine is off.  Does anyone have a cam that operates when the engine is turned off?  Kindly share. Thanks!

Does it only record when the engine is on, or only when the device has 12v power?  Unless it's voltage-sensing (i.e. shuts off below ~13 volts) you could use a constant-on power source (i.e. not ignition switched) and it would never shut off.

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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2017, 04:22:10 AM »
As a followup, I was in an accident last year when a maniac traveling the same direction on my right made a left hand turn across my lane in front of me. Panic braked and swerved left but still clipped his rear quarter panel which mangled my front bumper a bit (company car, thank goodness, haha).  His SUV nearly rolled.  He fled the scene, then filed paperwork with the police that I was speeding (which was not the case; his turn was unsafe from the middle lane).  I filed paper work with cops and insurance including link to dashcam vid I put on youtube showing the facts.  Case closed.

 

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