Post by: CowboyAndIndian on April 23, 2019, 09:49:59 AM
Are any mustachians going to the World Cup? Rather non-mustachian activity, but maybe it is on your bucket list.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on April 23, 2019, 09:53:01 AM
Predicting the finals between England and India.
I was planning to go to London for it, had tickets for the India-SriLanka game as well as the finals, but had to cancel due to illness. I'll end up watching on TV in the comfort of my home.
Post by: jinga nation on April 23, 2019, 10:48:11 AM
2nd pick: NZ
will watch daily highlights. Don't have time to watch a 50-overs game. debating on getting the streaming subscription to use for weekend cricket-watch parties and for the work from home days.
I'm in love with T20 and IPL, but can't sit everyday and watch it live (during work hours) or recorded match. Rather be exercising or work on house projects. Watching highlights using IPL app is good enough.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on April 23, 2019, 11:52:55 AM
pick: SA
2nd pick: NZ
I can see you picking SA. I think it is time they give up the choker tag and win one.
Being FIRE'ed, I have all the time to waste on a 50 over game. I might even watch some tests after the world cup :-)
Post by: cerat0n1a on April 23, 2019, 01:45:03 PM
England to beat India in the final. I think NZ look to have a pretty strong team too. Kohli to score the most runs.
Post by: marty998 on April 24, 2019, 03:16:57 PM
No love for Australia?
Rare that we don't make the final let along take the trophy... usually without sandpaper too.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on April 24, 2019, 04:33:41 PM
I'd forgotten the world cup was still going...
No love for Australia?
Rare that we don't make the final let along take the trophy... usually without sandpaper too.
I was wondering when the first sandpaper joke or the first DRS (Dressing Room Review) jokes would happen. Did not expect an Aussie to make it ;-)
Naah, Australia will be out before the semis!
Post by: marty998 on April 24, 2019, 04:51:16 PM
I'd forgotten the world cup was still going...
No love for Australia?
Rare that we don't make the final let along take the trophy... usually without sandpaper too.
I was wondering when the first sandpaper joke or the first DRS (Dressing Room Review) jokes would happen. Did not expect an Aussie to make it ;-)
Naah, Australia will be out before the semis!
Well look, it's not like Australia are the only ones who have ever engaged in ball tampering. The only reason why this one got attention was because of the size of the penalties handed out. I await with baited breath other countries taking the action Australia did if/when their players get done.
Interesting list of players who have been caught out over the years -
- Faf du Plessis (SA vs PAK, 2013 and SA vs Aus, 2016), Scratching with pants Zip, and Mints and lollies
- Vernon Philander (SA vs SL 2014), Fingernails/scratching
- Shahid Afridi (PAK vs AUS 2010), Biting the ball (he claimed he was smelling it!)
- James Anderson and Stuart Broad (ENG vs SA 2010), treading on the ball in the field.
- Pakistan (vs ENG 2006) - Umpires determined that the team had been engaged in ball tampering, match nearly led to a diplomatic incident
- Marcus Trescothick (England) wrote in his autobiography in 2005 about the curious effects of Murray Mints and its effects on the ball
- Rahul Dravid (IND vs ZIM 2004) - lollies
- Sachin Tendulkar (IND vs SA, 2001) - yes, even God was caught cheating by "cleaning" the ball
- Waqar Younis (2000) - ever watch replays of Waqar and Wasim and wonder how they get the ball to swing that much? More lollies
- Mike Atherton was done at some point as well for having dirt in the pocket.
Post by: jinga nation on April 25, 2019, 12:25:59 PM
But players be players... There Shall Be Tampering.
Post by: marty998 on April 26, 2019, 03:05:44 AM
England $3.25
India $3.75
Australia $5.00
New Zealand $11.00
South Africa $11.00
Pakistan $13.00
West Indies $13.00
Sri Lanka $51.00
Afghanistan $101.00
Bangladesh $101.00
Post by: alsoknownasDean on April 27, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
WC winner odds according to Australian Sportsbet:
England $3.25
India $3.75
Australia $5.00
New Zealand $11.00
South Africa $11.00
Pakistan $13.00
West Indies $13.00
Sri Lanka $51.00
Afghanistan $101.00
Bangladesh $101.00
Probably fair odds, I think it'll be England v India WC final (much like the Women's WC a couple of years back), and two of Australia/South Africa/West Indies/New Zealand/Pakistan will make the top four.
I wouldn't read much into the Australia 5-0 win in the UAE. We're still a bit underpowered with the bat. South Africa are likely to choke again (is AB playing in this WC or has he retired from all international cricket?). Who knows whether Dhoni is still up to it, he may prove in the WC that he's still got it, or he might be past it.
Speaking of the WC final, I was at the 2015 final. Although, remember who won the last World Cup held in England :)
Post by: jinga nation on May 23, 2019, 06:49:26 AM
Too bloody complicated.
Post by: GuitarStv on May 23, 2019, 07:01:58 AM
*crickets*
:P
Thank you, I'm here all week.
Post by: jinga nation on May 23, 2019, 08:26:36 AM
around here, during cricket world cup, it gets crazy. the local indian doctors in their 50s and 60s start acting like teenagers. I get invited to these parties, my job is to keep them drinking so they don't start talking medical gibberish. It's an excuse for the men to get away from wives and drink without judgement.
one year, the cricket matches started in the 0300-0500 hours, so we were drinking at breakfast. and lunch. and the next day. the 3rd day, half the crowd didn't show up. Of the ones that did, only half drank. and the ones that still drank called the others <not nice words in Hindi>. Hilarious.
If you're British, Aussie, SAfrican, Indian, Pakistani, or West Indian, in the USA/Canada, chances are pretty high you'll be stoked for the WC. England and India are two of the favorites.
Ball tampering in 4K. Sledging. Bring. It. On!
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on May 23, 2019, 01:29:02 PM
how are you guys watching the WC in the US? I saw willow tv has the rights for $10/month. Reviews say the streaming sucks in quality and reliability. The reliable option seems to be getting a Sling account and then the Willow channel/international sports pack, so it's a higher price. Unsure if I have to get the Sling Blue/Orange pack first.
Too bloody complicated.
Sling has a deal for $45/year. Not bad at all. It is basically Willow TV. This package basically targets the Indians (desi means countryman).
https://www.sling.com/international/desi-tv/cricket
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on May 23, 2019, 01:32:55 PM
Who is the most super excited about the cricket world cup?????!!!!!!
Far more than the Stanley cup or the World Series ;-)
The traffic on this thread will pick up when the actual games start in a week or so.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on May 25, 2019, 07:57:10 AM
What's up with England and Afghanistan copying India's blues? Just add a little stripe of color to the India blues and you the other team's colors. England with dark blue and Afghanistan with a reddish stripe.
And don't even talk about Australia ;-) What's with their yellow? I guess the opposing team is so blinded that they just give up?
The Kiwis are lucky. There is no other shade of black...
Post by: marty998 on May 25, 2019, 05:36:41 PM
Can we talk uniforms for the World Cup?
What's up with England and Afghanistan copying India's blues? Just add a little stripe of color to the India blues and you the other team's colors. England with dark blue and Afghanistan with a reddish stripe.
And don't even talk about Australia ;-) What's with their yellow? I guess the opposing team is so blinded that they just give up?
The Kiwis are lucky. There is no other shade of black...
Back when the pyjamas were first worn in the 80s all the teams were quite recognisable in their colours. One colour each - very pale though. Light yellow for Aus, light green for Pakistan, light red for the windies, NZ wore a grey if I recall correctly. South Africa wasn't playing due to apartheid boycotts.
Australia changed from yellow to dark green for ODIs when a certain sponsor whose logo was yellow wanted it to show up visibly on the TV cameras.
However for the World Cup, we always go back to yellow, which I'm surprised we get away with because the white ball will be harder for a batsman to pick up if the ball is in the same line of sight of the bowler.
The jerseys change every year now because of $$$. Because as the administrators like to advertise to us, only real supporters wear the latest merchandise...
Post by: deborah on May 26, 2019, 02:04:41 AM
Post by: kei te pai on May 26, 2019, 03:38:08 AM
Post by: marty998 on May 26, 2019, 04:43:46 AM
It's not yellow. It's GOLD. Australian colours are green and gold.
It's yellow. Only the Wallabies wear something that looks remotely like gold....
Speaking of which, I think we'll be up to Bledisloe loss number 17 in a row this year. NZ might decide to put their third string side out this year, just to make it a contest for TV ratings.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on May 26, 2019, 10:52:06 AM
It's not yellow. It's GOLD. Australian colours are green and gold.
I did watch the England/Australia warmup game for a few minutes. It was definitely yellow and nothing like their old uniform.
(https://i1.wp.com/crickettimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Steve-Smith-Australia.jpg)
Post by: alsoknownasDean on May 30, 2019, 02:59:59 AM
And yeah the Australian kit is very bright.
Post by: cerat0n1a on May 30, 2019, 03:25:54 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on May 30, 2019, 03:30:12 AM
Few days of hot weather forecast too. The trouble with holding these events in England is you can easily get two weeks and half the games wiped out by rain, but it's looking good at the moment.
Define 'hot' :)
Looks nice at the Oval right now though.
Will be interesting to see if Root does well in this WC. I've had him typecast as a 'red ball only' cricketer.
Post by: cerat0n1a on May 30, 2019, 04:02:37 AM
Few days of hot weather forecast too. The trouble with holding these events in England is you can easily get two weeks and half the games wiped out by rain, but it's looking good at the moment.
Define 'hot' :)
It's when you can go on to a cricket pitch without a sweater on ;-)
Post by: jinga nation on May 30, 2019, 08:07:45 AM
Cricket Corruption | Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj | Netflix
https://youtu.be/v5DWJv1hiwM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on May 31, 2019, 09:14:12 AM
In any tournament, my second choice team is always the West Indies. They have a certain joie de vivre!
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on May 31, 2019, 11:19:16 AM
found this hilarious and somewhat relevant:
Cricket Corruption | Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj | Netflix
https://youtu.be/v5DWJv1hiwM
Lord, he insults every country that plays cricket except for NZ.
Well, if India provides the majority of the revenue, they should have more of a say. As the golden rule says, The one who has the gold makes the rules.
Post by: cerat0n1a on May 31, 2019, 03:02:57 PM
Wow, the way Pakistan got thrashed by West Indies! I think we have to change the ranking and move WI up.I like the way they went after the net run-rate thing too. In such a close tournament, particularly where we're certain to get some rain-affected games, the big margin in this game could be the difference between a semi-final place or not.
In any tournament, my second choice team is always the West Indies. They have a certain joie de vivre!
Interesting tactics - lots of short-pitched stuff - like the WI teams of the 1980s. Pakistan were not able to deal with it. Nice to see a couple of tactical innovations in the first two games. I'm sure other teams will adopt the SA tactic of opening with leg spin against England.
Post by: jinga nation on May 31, 2019, 08:24:06 PM
Wow, the way Pakistan got thrashed by West Indies! I think we have to change the ranking and move WI up.
In any tournament, my second choice team is always the West Indies. They have a certain joie de vivre!
Many of those WI players were really good in IPL 2019. I'm not surprised by how they played today. Let's see how they play against the Aussies on 6/6. Should be fun.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 01, 2019, 03:24:43 AM
Wow, the way Pakistan got thrashed by West Indies! I think we have to change the ranking and move WI up.
In any tournament, my second choice team is always the West Indies. They have a certain joie de vivre!
Many of those WI players were really good in IPL 2019. I'm not surprised by how they played today. Let's see how they play against the Aussies on 6/6. Should be fun.
I remember the Windies touring Australia for a few tests a few years ago, and they were totally uncompetitive. Glad to see they've turned things around.
NZ bowling first vs SL. Should be a walkover for the Blackcaps, but you never know. That pitch is a total greentop, I think Boult should be good for a few wickets.
Unfortunately the Australia v Afghanistan game starts a little late (starts at 10:30PM here), so I might only catch a bit of it before going to bed.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 01, 2019, 03:49:52 AM
NZ bowling first vs SL. Should be a walkover for the Blackcaps, but you never know. That pitch is a total greentop, I think Boult should be good for a few wickets.
Some rain in Cardiff over the last few days, which I think is why the pitch is so green. Outfield will be slow too. NZ opening with three slips, like a test match field.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 01, 2019, 06:20:53 AM
NZ bowling first vs SL. Should be a walkover for the Blackcaps, but you never know. That pitch is a total greentop, I think Boult should be good for a few wickets.
Some rain in Cardiff over the last few days, which I think is why the pitch is so green. Outfield will be slow too. NZ opening with three slips, like a test match field.
Fair enough. Still, looks like aside from Karunaratne, most of the SL players had real trouble.
I've switched over to the other match. Afghanistan could be a surprise packet.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 01, 2019, 06:43:42 AM
https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket-world-cup/brendon-mccullum-world-cup-prediction/
SL is doing so poorly now, they are in a state of building up their team, so rightfully they are quite near the bottom. So yes, NZ should win against them.
The Afghans are a wild card. On a good day, they can do really well, so the Oz game with them would be interesting. I would be watching it, but we have guests for lunch today :-(
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 01, 2019, 04:45:28 PM
The Proteas will be playing their 3rd game of the WC when they play India who will be playing their first game.
Is this for TV?
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 02, 2019, 12:29:29 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 02, 2019, 05:54:19 AM
I assumed the India team needed to start a couple of weeks after everyone else due to film commitments or something ;-)
Or paintball games ;-)
They got trolled on twitter for taking a day off to play paintball.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 02, 2019, 10:55:39 AM
I assumed the India team needed to start a couple of weeks after everyone else due to film commitments or something ;-)
Or paintball games ;-)
They got trolled on twitter for taking a day off to play paintball.
Yes, seems like they are based in Southampton and largely avoiding the media. I guess with IPL only finishing a couple of weeks ago, maybe Indian tv wanted a bit of a break.
Bangladesh doing well against S. Africa. If the Saffas lose this, the game against India becomes a must-win.
Post by: jinga nation on June 02, 2019, 01:45:01 PM
Check out Brendan McCullum's prediction for every game of the WC.
https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket-world-cup/brendon-mccullum-world-cup-prediction/
SL is doing so poorly now, they are in a state of building up their team, so rightfully they are quite near the bottom. So yes, NZ should win against them.
The Afghans are a wild card. On a good day, they can do really well, so the Oz game with them would be interesting. I would be watching it, but we have guests for lunch today :-(
LOL. Baz's predictions on SA a tad bit optimistic. SA choked twice now. Vs India is a must-win. The pressure, with squad injuries... India will be pitching short and high for Amla and his already hurt head.
Banglas doing great (fingers crossed they play like this vs England), Afghans at least were going down proudly vs the Baggy Greens, unlike the Pakistan and SL teams.
Post by: marty998 on June 02, 2019, 03:10:37 PM
Post by: jinga nation on June 03, 2019, 02:10:32 PM
The last over, if it was MSD or Dre Russ or Hardik Pandya, 25 runs could have been achieved, not with this England team down the order.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 03, 2019, 02:39:55 PM
The Pakistan team finally showed up at Trent Bridge today. Well played.
The last over, if it was MSD or Dre Russ or Hardik Pandya, 25 runs could have been achieved, not with this England team down the order.
If Buttler or Stokes had still been there, I think they would have made it. England do bat a long way down the order, but it would have been a big ask for no.9 batsman. They lost this game through poor fielding, not the batting.
Great to have the first competitive game of the competition and good to have Pakistan up and running.
Post by: mrmoonymartian on June 04, 2019, 05:12:51 AM
Afghans at least were going down proudly vs the Baggy Greens, unlike the Pakistan and SL teams.Baggy greens are the test team. These are known as the bulging yellows.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 04, 2019, 06:09:04 AM
Looks like the rain has stopped play at 182/8. With 2 wickets down in the last 6 balls, looks like SL is imploding...
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 04, 2019, 08:11:14 AM
Looks like the Afghans can probably win this one against SL. Looks like they will bowl out SL for around 200.
Looks like the rain has stopped play at 182/8. With 2 wickets down in the last 6 balls, looks like SL is imploding...
Sri Lanka got off to a great start, too - they were 128-1 off 17, run rate above 7.5. It's raining at pretty much all of the county grounds currently, but looks like there'll be enough of a break in it at Cardiff to get this game finished.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 04, 2019, 08:56:10 AM
That is unless it's a draw. Any sign of a resumption?
Post by: marty998 on June 06, 2019, 06:04:05 AM
Remind me what the format is for the competition? Every team plays every other team once (no groups), and top 4 go through to the semis?
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 06, 2019, 06:14:51 AM
Do South Africa need to win everything from here to make it through?Yes that's the format. SA could probably get in with 5/4 on net run rate, but losing the first match so heavily would hurt there.
Remind me what the format is for the competition? Every team plays every other team once (no groups), and top 4 go through to the semis?
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 06, 2019, 06:58:57 AM
Do South Africa need to win everything from here to make it through?Yes that's the format. SA could probably get in with 5/4 on net run rate, but losing the first match so heavily would hurt there.
Remind me what the format is for the competition? Every team plays every other team once (no groups), and top 4 go through to the semis?
Seems like an uphill task for SA. Their remaining games against Afghanistan and SL may be easier, but the Oz, NZ and WI would be hard. I think they have the edge over Pak.
I wonder what the odds against SA are? I've found the betting oddmakers are usually better than most commentators.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 06, 2019, 07:13:17 AM
I wonder what the odds against SA are? I've found the betting oddmakers are usually better than most commentators.
Best UK odds I can see are 1/14 on SA to be knocked out at the group stage (i.e you put on a bet £14, you get £15 if they get knocked out.)
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 06, 2019, 07:21:58 AM
I wonder what the odds against SA are? I've found the betting oddmakers are usually better than most commentators.
Best UK odds I can see are 1/14 on SA to be knocked out at the group stage (i.e you put on a bet £14, you get £15 if they get knocked out.)
Yeah I've just checked one of the betting sites here and the odds they're offering on SA being knocked out at the group stage is $1.05, and $13 for reaching the semi finals.
Impressive recovery from the Aussies in the WI match, from 79-5 to 288 all out. I think they can defend that. I didn't think Coulter-Nile had that in him.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 06, 2019, 08:02:54 AM
Impressive recovery from the Aussies in the WI match, from 79-5 to 288 all out. I think they can defend that. I didn't think Coulter-Nile had that in him.
Yes, I think the Aussies are definitely favourites now.
Post by: marty998 on June 06, 2019, 03:30:57 PM
The Windies look like they will definitely cause a few problems over the coming games. Good to see them finally get their act together.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 07, 2019, 07:50:44 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 08, 2019, 08:32:42 PM
SA vs WI tomorrow also will be interesting. If SA lose that it could be it for them.
Geez there's a lot of batting firepower in the England team.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 09, 2019, 03:20:05 AM
Aus v India should be interesting. After the ODI series in India not so long ago, it could go either way.Yes, this feels like the biggest match so far. I'd guess around 99% of the crowd at the Oval supporting India.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 09, 2019, 03:53:36 AM
I'd guess around 99% of the crowd at the Oval supporting India.
Looks like any India game anywhere around the world is a home game for India. Just showed the stand, there were a couple of green and "gold" in a sea of blue. That also extends to TV. Here in the US, every advertisement on Willow is an Indian ad.
Those crazy Indians who travel the world to watch cricket! I'm in that list of insane people. This would have been my second world cup, if I could go :-( The first one was in the WI (2007?) where India was eliminated. I remember the stadium had about 80% of Indians.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 09, 2019, 05:03:54 AM
Good fielding by Australia, but not super impressed with their bowling. Zampa was really bad....
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 09, 2019, 05:05:48 AM
Good start for India with both the openers scoring 50.Kept pitching them short. These blokes had no trouble sending those balls to the boundary.
Good fielding by Australia, but not super impressed with their bowling. Zampa was really bad....
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 09, 2019, 05:18:58 AM
Those are probably people wearing a Chennai Super Kings shirt with Dhoni written on the back. Judging by people on the tube, it seems like mostly British Indians. And I think we've already seen that English fans will be supporting whoever is playing Australia in any case.I'd guess around 99% of the crowd at the Oval supporting India.
Looks like any India game anywhere around the world is a home game for India. Just showed the stand, there were a couple of green and "gold" in a sea of blue.
Stoinis is too slow for the short-pitched stuff to work. Starc is bowling very well, as always.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 09, 2019, 05:27:46 AM
Those are probably people wearing a Chennai Super Kings shirt with Dhoni written on the back.Lol
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Judging by people on the tube, it seems like mostly British Indians. And I think we've already seen that English fans will be supporting whoever is playing Australia in any case.Naah, all the ethnic clothing looks like they are Indians who have traveled for the game.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 09, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 09, 2019, 07:35:58 AM
Textbook innings by India. Beautifully done!It will need something special from the Aussies to win this one now. Maxwell was getting the ball to turn, will be interesting to see if the Indian spinners can do the same.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 09, 2019, 08:04:27 AM
Textbook innings by India. Beautifully done!It will need something special from the Aussies to win this one now. Maxwell was getting the ball to turn, will be interesting to see if the Indian spinners can do the same.
Yeah, should be world record chase if the Aussies win it.
I think the Indian spinners are superior. They should get the ball to spin. Like the SA game, the Indian spinners got much more turn than the SAffers.
I guess our Aussie Mustachians have gone to sleep. Working day tomorrow.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 09, 2019, 10:53:41 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 09, 2019, 11:46:52 AM
They batted, bowled and fielded better than Australia.
The next great game will be the England/India game.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 09, 2019, 02:52:48 PM
The next great game will be the England/India game.
That one is 21 days away - plenty of games before then. I imagine India v Pakistan at Old Trafford and England v Australia will be good too.
Post by: marty998 on June 10, 2019, 02:11:10 AM
Textbook innings by India. Beautifully done!It will need something special from the Aussies to win this one now. Maxwell was getting the ball to turn, will be interesting to see if the Indian spinners can do the same.
Yeah, should be world record chase if the Aussies win it.
I think the Indian spinners are superior. They should get the ball to spin. Like the SA game, the Indian spinners got much more turn than the SAffers.
I guess our Aussie Mustachians have gone to sleep. Working day tomorrow.
Yes did go to sleep, no not a working day - it was actually a public holiday today.
Personally I was more disappointed in our Women's Football team losing to Italy in the World Cup match. We played absolutely horrible in the second half.
From what I heard Australia were never in it, but Steve Smith batted well again. I saw the last couple of overs bowled by Stoinis, he did ok.
Bit hypocritical of the Indian crowd booing when their whole game plan at home tests is to doctor the pitches so they resemble the great sandy dusty deserts of mongolia. That does more damage to the balls then any sandpaper might do ;)
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 10, 2019, 03:04:59 AM
Bit hypocritical of the Indian crowd booingWarner was widely viewed as the epitome of arrogant, cheating, win-at-all-costs bad sportsmanship by many cricket fans in England anyway, so when the sandpaper stuff and the rest of it came out, it just confirmed what they already thought about him. People with drugs bans (e.g. Shane Warne) or match fixing/spot fixing bans haven't generated this level of contempt. It's a shame that Smith is caught up in it. I assume Justin Langer's appeal for people not to boo them is a double bluff. I think Warner enjoys being the villain.
Weather forecast for SA v WI today is not good, at best it will be a reduced overs game.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 10, 2019, 05:18:24 AM
Bit hypocritical of the Indian crowd booingWarner was widely viewed as the epitome of arrogant, cheating, win-at-all-costs bad sportsmanship by many cricket fans in England anyway, so when the sandpaper stuff and the rest of it came out, it just confirmed what they already thought about him. People with drugs bans (e.g. Shane Warne) or match fixing/spot fixing bans haven't generated this level of contempt. It's a shame that Smith is caught up in it. I assume Justin Langer's appeal for people not to boo them is a double bluff. I think Warner enjoys being the villain.
+1.
I did not want to say anything but have to respond to slurs about India fans and India. Smith and Warner were booed during every game of the WC, so why pick on the India fans. Smith and Warner did not get booed in India during the IPL! What Smith and Warner did in SA involved the whole team and most probably the management. It was not one off! I used to love the Australian teams of yesteryear, but the attitude of the Aussie teams in the last 10 years, win at any cost and vicious sledging made them a team that I dislike intensely. This is probably why they are being booed.
@marty998, why just mention that they get booed but not mention that Virat Kohli (while batting) walked up the boundary to ask the audience to stop booing Smith (fielding at the boundary) but to clap for him. https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2019/06/10/virat-kohli-shows-absolute-class-asks-indian-fans-stop-booing-steve-smith. Very hypocritical of the Aussie fans to pick on the Indian fans for booing and not mentioning Kohli's classy gesture.
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Bit hypocritical of the Indian crowd booing when their whole game plan at home tests is to doctor the pitches so they resemble the great sandy dusty deserts of mongolia. That does more damage to the balls then any sandpaper might do ;)Wait a minute. You mean to say the host country cannot make pitches the way that will suit their teams? News to me.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 10, 2019, 06:25:31 AM
The next great game will be the England/India game.
That one is 21 days away - plenty of games before then. I imagine India v Pakistan at Old Trafford and England v Australia will be good too.
You are right. India play NZ next. The Pakistani game should be fun also. I also rarely watch non-India games, pretty hard to put aside 8 hours when you are not supporting either team.
What I meant to say is that the England game is the one I will wake up at 5AM to watch from the beginning. The others can wait till 6:30 so my beauty sleep is not disturbed;-)
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 10, 2019, 08:03:45 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 10, 2019, 08:26:14 AM
South Africa will be hoping they get back out there, they desperately need the points.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 10, 2019, 09:18:55 AM
When is summer going to start there?
South Africa will be hoping they get back out there, they desperately need the points.
We already had summer in May - I've got a suntan to prove it :-)
I reckon South Africa will be glad to get the point.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 10, 2019, 09:52:27 AM
Chutney beats Vegemite.
Post by: marty998 on June 10, 2019, 03:20:38 PM
Bit hypocritical of the Indian crowd booingWarner was widely viewed as the epitome of arrogant, cheating, win-at-all-costs bad sportsmanship by many cricket fans in England anyway, so when the sandpaper stuff and the rest of it came out, it just confirmed what they already thought about him. People with drugs bans (e.g. Shane Warne) or match fixing/spot fixing bans haven't generated this level of contempt. It's a shame that Smith is caught up in it. I assume Justin Langer's appeal for people not to boo them is a double bluff. I think Warner enjoys being the villain.
+1.
I did not want to say anything but have to respond to slurs about India fans and India. Smith and Warner were booed during every game of the WC, so why pick on the India fans. Smith and Warner did not get booed in India during the IPL! What Smith and Warner did in SA involved the whole team and most probably the management. It was not one off! I used to love the Australian teams of yesteryear, but the attitude of the Aussie teams in the last 10 years, win at any cost and vicious sledging made them a team that I dislike intensely. This is probably why they are being booed.
@marty998, why just mention that they get booed but not mention that Virat Kohli (while batting) walked up the boundary to ask the audience to stop booing Smith (fielding at the boundary) but to clap for him. https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2019/06/10/virat-kohli-shows-absolute-class-asks-indian-fans-stop-booing-steve-smith. Very hypocritical of the Aussie fans to pick on the Indian fans for booing and not mentioning Kohli's classy gesture.QuoteBit hypocritical of the Indian crowd booing when their whole game plan at home tests is to doctor the pitches so they resemble the great sandy dusty deserts of mongolia. That does more damage to the balls then any sandpaper might do ;)Wait a minute. You mean to say the host country cannot make pitches the way that will suit their teams? News to me.
What Kohli did was the right thing to do and he was trying to stop your crowd from causing embarrassment to India. Australian crowds love to boo as well but when a visiting villain scores a 100 or takes 5 wickets they'll still get a standing ovation. Even the England crowd and the Barmy Army will acknowledge, but rarely will an Indian crowd do the same.
Now, no country receives as many admonishments from the ICC as India when it comes to preparing pitches rated by match officials as "poor". When games get abandoned because of pitch doctoring, it goes well beyond "making pitches that suit the home team".
As to vicious sledging, should I not mention Harbajan Singh and the monkey slur against Andrew Symonds? That is just the one that got the headlines. Please don't fall into the trap of believing India are innocent saints at all times.
Sorry, but there's no higher ground here to stand on for either side.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 10, 2019, 05:07:05 PM
What Kohli did was the right thing to do and he was trying to stop your crowd from causing embarrassment to India.Fan's of every nationality in every Australian match in the WC have boo'ed Smith and Warner. Fans dislike the systemic cheating introduced by Smith/Warner. They were calling a cheat a cheater. Nothing embarrassing there!
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Australian crowds love to boo as well but when a visiting villain scores a 100 or takes 5 wickets they'll still get a standing ovation.
I am sure that the majority of Australian(or any other nationality) fans are decent and will give a standing ovation to visiting players for great plays. That being said, the recent racist incidents by fans against non-white players are in Australia. For example the India Boxing day match in 2018. Here is an Australian site since you might not believe an Indian one. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/cricket-fans-ejected-from-mcg-after-racist-taunts-during-boxing-day-test-20181229-p50op6.html
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Even the England crowd and the Barmy Army will acknowledge, but rarely will an Indian crowd do the same.Any proof of this or is it one of your made up statistics like the one on pitches?
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Now, no country receives as many admonishments from the ICC as India when it comes to preparing pitches rated by match officials as "poor". When games get abandoned because of pitch doctoring, it goes well beyond "making pitches that suit the home team".
I call BS on this. Are you pulling statistics out of thin air?
Here are the list of pitches and ratings they got from the ICC web site sorted from most recent to the oldest (October 2017).
https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/pitch-ratings
There are at least 5 Australian venues with Average rating before you find the first Indian one with an Average. The Indian pitches got Good or Very Good (top two ratings) for the Australia trip.
Melbourne had a Poor rating for the Boxing test against England, but there are no Indian pitches with a Poor rating.
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As to vicious sledging, should I not mention Harbajan Singh and the monkey slur against Andrew Symonds? That is just the one that got the headlines. Please don't fall into the trap of believing India are innocent saints at all times.Sorry, Harbhajan did not call Symonds a monkey. Harbhajan barely speaks English, he was cursing Symonds out in Hindi. He said, "Maaki ch**t" which means "your mothers c**t". "Maaki" sounds like "monkey". And BTW, calling anyone a monkey is not racist in India and would be a pathetic sledge by an Indian. It is commonly used to describe a mischevious child. But the phrase he used is fighting words in India, and I do not condone it. Players need to play and stop sledging!
My apologies to the other members on this thread. I did not wish to disrupt this thread with this acrimonious discussion. I did not start this, but I refuse to lie down and take slurs against India.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 11, 2019, 04:22:34 AM
Weather forecast for the next few days is not looking too good.
How does the weather look like in Nottingham for Thursday?
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 11, 2019, 04:43:08 AM
https://youtu.be/IcBCm6bsKKI
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 11, 2019, 04:54:51 AM
How does the weather look like in Nottingham for Thursday?Thundery showers but some play should be possible as it's not forecast to rain all day. Same for Australia v Pakistan at Taunton tomorrow - it will probably rain, but not the whole day. Some places close to Taunton are due to get a month's worth of rain in the next day or two. Quite a lot of severe weather warnings elsewhere in the country.
Don't think there will be any play for Sri Lanka v Bangladesh today.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 11, 2019, 05:02:13 AM
I just saw this clip of Sheldon Cottrell catch. This is definitely the best catch of the tournament till now.
Until now? You think there'll be more?
There's been some good ones - the ICC have a nice little video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUfBhucdjvE
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 11, 2019, 05:31:50 AM
How does the weather look like in Nottingham for Thursday?Thundery showers but some play should be possible as it's not forecast to rain all day. Same for Australia v Pakistan at Taunton tomorrow - it will probably rain, but not the whole day. Some places close to Taunton are due to get a month's worth of rain in the next day or two. Quite a lot of severe weather warnings elsewhere in the country.
Don't think there will be any play for Sri Lanka v Bangladesh today.
Thanks. Hope there will atleast be curtailed play and the game is not washed out.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 11, 2019, 05:34:26 AM
I just saw this clip of Sheldon Cottrell catch. This is definitely the best catch of the tournament till now.
Until now? You think there'll be more?
I can hope, can't I ;-)
Seriously, I believe that this will be the best catch of the tournament.
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There's been some good ones - the ICC have a nice little video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUfBhucdjvE
Thanks, that was a good one. I saw the DeKock one. Almost looks like he has springs on his feet!
Post by: marty998 on June 11, 2019, 06:06:01 AM
QuoteNow, no country receives as many admonishments from the ICC as India when it comes to preparing pitches rated by match officials as "poor". When games get abandoned because of pitch doctoring, it goes well beyond "making pitches that suit the home team".
I call BS on this. Are you pulling statistics out of thin air?
Here are the list of pitches and ratings they got from the ICC web site sorted from most recent to the oldest (October 2017).
https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/pitch-ratings
There are at least 5 Australian venues with Average rating before you find the first Indian one with an Average. The Indian pitches got Good or Very Good (top two ratings) for the Australia trip.
Melbourne had a Poor rating for the Boxing test against England, but there are no Indian pitches with a Poor rating.
https://m.hindustantimes.com/cricket/indian-cricket-and-its-history-with-poor-pitches-pune-not-an-anomaly/story-Vly6l06FWnHVU27aldeWHJ_amp.html
The Hindustan times disagrees with you. Bizarrely the example this article is written on is based on a match where the attempted pitch doctoring backfired spectacularly against the home side.
As for the charge of “systemic” cheating by the Australians, please provide your evidence of that. Smith, Warner and Bancroft were banned for one match by the ICC if I recall correctly, in line with guidelines. The Australian administration were the ones to ban them for a year (9 months in the case of Bancroft), for the attempted coverup. No other administration has taken action like that against their players in that regard before, most certainly not the Indians when Tendulkar was caught and denied ball tampering.
In respect of Harbijan, no one believes that. He knew exactly what he was saying.
You can believe your players are saints, but they’re not. And no one expects them to be. Sports people at the top always push the boundaries. It last partly why they are good enough to get there in the first place.
That’s all I’m going to say.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 11, 2019, 06:13:56 AM
Post by: jinga nation on June 11, 2019, 06:17:18 AM
Genius idea to have the WC in the English Summer.
Hoping the chances of rain diminish as the tourney progresses, otherwise CWC2019 will be known as the Washout Cup.
Can't predict English weather, being maritime and all that.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 11, 2019, 07:46:54 AM
QuoteNow, no country receives as many admonishments from the ICC as India when it comes to preparing pitches rated by match officials as "poor". When games get abandoned because of pitch doctoring, it goes well beyond "making pitches that suit the home team".
I call BS on this. Are you pulling statistics out of thin air?
Here are the list of pitches and ratings they got from the ICC web site sorted from most recent to the oldest (October 2017).
https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/pitch-ratings
There are at least 5 Australian venues with Average rating before you find the first Indian one with an Average. The Indian pitches got Good or Very Good (top two ratings) for the Australia trip.
Melbourne had a Poor rating for the Boxing test against England, but there are no Indian pitches with a Poor rating.
https://m.hindustantimes.com/cricket/indian-cricket-and-its-history-with-poor-pitches-pune-not-an-anomaly/story-Vly6l06FWnHVU27aldeWHJ_amp.html
The Hindustan times disagrees with you. Bizarrely the example this article is written on is based on a match where the attempted pitch doctoring backfired spectacularly against the home side.
Agree, that was a poor pitch.
But you have still not proved your statement Now, no country receives as many admonishments from the ICC as India when it comes to preparing pitches rated by match officials as "poor". Still call this as BS.
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As for the charge of “systemic” cheating by the Australians, please provide your evidence of that. Smith, Warner and Bancroft were banned for one match by the ICC if I recall correctly, in line with guidelines. The Australian administration were the ones to ban them for a year (9 months in the case of Bancroft), for the attempted coverup. No other administration has taken action like that against their players in that regard before, most certainly not the Indians when Tendulkar was caught and denied ball tampering.Video evidence is there everywhere. When the captain/vice-captain and member(s?) of the team are proven to cheat then it is systemic. Note, this was not a case of lone-wolf cheating, but a whole bunch of guys with the senior-most members of the team leading the cheating. I am not going to bring up the DRS case since there is no video proof.
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That’s all I’m going to say.
Look, I did not start this. Go back and read your statements when you are calmer and ask yourself if there was a need to make those comments!
Post by: jinga nation on June 11, 2019, 08:38:27 AM
Thurs June 13: Ind vs NZ, Nottingham. Forecast: Rain
Fri June 14: Eng vs WI, Southampton. Forecast: Sun and clouds, occasional rain showers
Sun June 16: Ind vs Pak, Manchester. Forecast:Sun and clouds, occasional rain showers
Hopefully forecasts are wrong... punters betting on washouts are geniuses.
Post by: marty998 on June 12, 2019, 02:38:58 AM
Wed June 12: Aus vs Pak, Taunton. Forecast: Occasional Rain
Thurs June 13: Ind vs NZ, Nottingham. Forecast: Rain
Fri June 14: Eng vs WI, Southampton. Forecast: Sun and clouds, occasional rain showers
Sun June 16: Ind vs Pak, Manchester. Forecast:Sun and clouds, occasional rain showers
Hopefully forecasts are wrong... punters betting on washouts are geniuses.
Organisers are getting a fair bit of flak for not scheduling any reserve days. It's a cliche, but every game counts, and a few washouts can mean the difference between finishing 4th or 5th.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 12, 2019, 02:42:02 AM
Didn't help us in the Champions Trophy.Wed June 12: Aus vs Pak, Taunton. Forecast: Occasional Rain
Thurs June 13: Ind vs NZ, Nottingham. Forecast: Rain
Fri June 14: Eng vs WI, Southampton. Forecast: Sun and clouds, occasional rain showers
Sun June 16: Ind vs Pak, Manchester. Forecast:Sun and clouds, occasional rain showers
Hopefully forecasts are wrong... punters betting on washouts are geniuses.
Organisers are getting a fair bit of flak for not scheduling any reserve days. It's a cliche, but every game counts, and a few washouts can mean the difference between finishing 4th or 5th.
Given how high profile the India v Pakistan match is, I suspect that the calls for reserve days would grow louder if it's called off due to rain.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 12, 2019, 02:53:47 AM
Organisers are getting a fair bit of flak for not scheduling any reserve days. It's a cliche, but every game counts, and a few washouts can mean the difference between finishing 4th or 5th.
Yep, and weather is always going to be a factor in a cricket tournament here. This is fairly unusual though. Last June, South East England had 2mm of rain (and May was also dry), some places have had 100mm in a day this year. (The Metro newspaper in London has the front page headline "Monsoon Britain" - two months of rain in two days. Another paper has "Apocalpyse Wow" - two months rain in a day and more to come.)
I don't think any of the matches lost so far would have been saved by having the game at the same ground on the next day, so it would need either the reserve days to be scheduled a week or two after the original date, or to be able to move games a couple of hundred miles away. At least the everyone play everyone else round robin format mitigates things somewhat - if they had gone for smaller groups, it would be possible for a team to have all of their games wiped out.
I believe there were 800 000 people applied for tickets for India v Pakistan.
Good news is that it's not raining in Taunton, although judging by tv pictures of the spectators, it's cold.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 12, 2019, 05:05:19 AM
Scratch that. Well batted by Finch, he looked scratchy early.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 12, 2019, 06:35:00 AM
The Pakistani bowlers are looking threatening but haven't taken any wickets.
Fielding has been pretty poor though. Amir & Wahab have looked good, but some of the other bowlers have been pretty wayward.
Finch & Warner pretty much won the game for Australia already. Unless something goes wrong in the last few overs, they should get 350ish and that will be a winning total.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 12, 2019, 09:16:57 AM
Unless something goes wrong in the last few overs, they should get 350ish and that will be a winning total.
Well that worked well. If the commentator's curse is still in operation, can I just say that Pakistan have absolutely no chance of getting to 308 ;-)
Post by: jinga nation on June 12, 2019, 09:37:49 AM
A washout on Sunday and no reserve day will mean the biggest cricket market in the world will be massively disappointed. BCCI has already made the ICC their bitch, now expect some spicy screwing...Didn't help us in the Champions Trophy.Wed June 12: Aus vs Pak, Taunton. Forecast: Occasional Rain
Thurs June 13: Ind vs NZ, Nottingham. Forecast: Rain
Fri June 14: Eng vs WI, Southampton. Forecast: Sun and clouds, occasional rain showers
Sun June 16: Ind vs Pak, Manchester. Forecast:Sun and clouds, occasional rain showers
Hopefully forecasts are wrong... punters betting on washouts are geniuses.
Organisers are getting a fair bit of flak for not scheduling any reserve days. It's a cliche, but every game counts, and a few washouts can mean the difference between finishing 4th or 5th.
Given how high profile the India v Pakistan match is, I suspect that the calls for reserve days would grow louder if it's called off due to rain.
Getting my masala popcorn.
Post by: jinga nation on June 12, 2019, 09:39:21 AM
Post by: jinga nation on June 13, 2019, 06:12:19 AM
calls for mandatory indoor stadia in "rain-blessed" countries?
or make reserve days mandatory, and minimum 2 matches per day?
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 13, 2019, 06:20:03 AM
anyone else have the feeling that rain delays and washouts are ruining the mojo and momentum of the tournament?
calls for mandatory indoor stadia in "rain-blessed" countries?
or make reserve days mandatory, and minimum 2 matches per day?
+1
I think the reserve days idea could be easier to implement.
Getting countries to build indoor stadia would make the bean counters unhappy.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 13, 2019, 06:32:19 AM
Just get the footy boots out and play in the rain.
And yeah, putting a roof on cricket grounds isn't going to happen. Sure, Marvel Stadium here has a roof, but it's main use is for Aussie Rules footy and it just happens to host some Big Bash matches. Cricket crowds alone wouldn't justify the expense for other grounds.
Didn't they try seeding clouds during the Beijing Olympics so that the event wasn't overly affected by rain?
Or more seriously, if this is a once-off rain event, then there's not much that can be done.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 13, 2019, 05:21:59 PM
Millennium Stadium in Cardiff has a roof, but would be rather short boundaries.
Looks like the next game, England v West Indies, should be able to be played.
Could be that the semi-finals and/or finals end up being rained off. (There are reserve days for those, but no guarantees it won't rain 2 days in a row.)
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 15, 2019, 07:27:18 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 15, 2019, 03:42:28 PM
I need my fix of India cricket, been too long ....
Post by: marty998 on June 15, 2019, 05:20:49 PM
Superb knock by Finch...and to think that four months ago I had him marked as finished at international level.
Yep and Smith again helped in getting the innings moving. But once more one of the Marsh brothers fluffs his lines and almost derails the finish. Fortunately Maxwell could find the ropes i those final overs.
Sri Lanka were doing it easy when I fell asleep (0/60 odd after 7 overs) and I thought I'd be waking up to a loss. Bit surprising to see us win by almost 100.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 16, 2019, 04:41:47 AM
@cerat0n1a, please tell me there is no rain for the India-Pak match :-(
I need my fix of India cricket, been too long ....
Looks like we're going to get a game, although I think Messrs Duckworth, Lewis & Stern may be called into action at some point.
India off to a flying start.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 16, 2019, 07:54:21 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 16, 2019, 08:02:47 AM
@cerat0n1a, please tell me there is no rain for the India-Pak match :-(
I need my fix of India cricket, been too long ....
Looks like we're going to get a game, although I think Messrs Duckworth, Lewis & Stern may be called into action at some point.
India off to a flying start.
Pretty decent score by India. I thought they would cross 350, but the Pakistanis got wickets and slowed down the scoring at the end. Kohli declaring himself out should have cost at least 15 runs. He must be kicking himself for that.
Highest run chase in a world cup was 329 (England/Ireland) and the top five are a majority with some minnows. So, this should be a hard chase.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 16, 2019, 09:26:45 AM
Post by: jinga nation on June 17, 2019, 12:45:20 PM
Jus' saying.
Could Bangladesh be gunning for that 4th spot? Hmmm... never say die. I love these underdogs.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 17, 2019, 03:16:35 PM
Could Bangladesh be gunning for that 4th spot? Hmmm... never say die. I love these underdogs.
Looked like they could have chased down 400 today, if they'd had to. Looking at their fixtures, they'll need to beat Australia on Thursday and/or India next week to make the semi-finals I would say.
I think WI maybe fooled a few people with their performance against Pakistan.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 17, 2019, 03:18:37 PM
Did anyone see that Kohli wicket? He was not out, yet he walked! Looks like the creak of the handle made him feel that he had touched the ball. Damn!
Certain other players, from certain other countries, you'd be thinking there was some order from the bookmakers being carried out...
Post by: marty998 on June 20, 2019, 06:32:02 AM
The only problem with a scoreline like that is that it might be just as hard for the Australians to get wickets...
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 20, 2019, 06:52:56 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 21, 2019, 11:56:33 AM
SL has finally shown up at the WC!
Certain other players, from certain other countries, you'd be thinking there was some order from the bookmakers being carried out...
Hmmm.... There must have been orders today ;-)
Post by: marty998 on June 21, 2019, 08:02:34 PM
That run out was bloody woeful.
Yeah Khawaja should have just kept going. Be a pretty frosty dressing room for the next few days...weeks... months.
Our team never lets anyone forget if they are at fault for a runout. You run out someone once in 1997 and you are a shit runner for life...
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 22, 2019, 02:05:24 PM
Afghanistan reminds me of Bangladesh about 10 years ago. A little rough around the edges. They will probably really do well in a few years, only if they achieve peace.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 23, 2019, 02:00:30 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 23, 2019, 09:40:18 AM
Finally some good games though - three close ones in two days.Yes!
Even if your team is not doing great, I love those games where the last over decides it and it could go either way.
The SA/Pakistan game is quite decent today, it could be anybody's game. I think a loss here would mean they are out of the tournament.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 24, 2019, 05:56:28 PM
I think I might get up early for the Eng-Aus game ...
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 24, 2019, 09:20:11 PM
Go Aussies! I probably won't watch the whole match (finishes at ~3am), but the first innings definitely.
Post by: marty998 on June 25, 2019, 02:26:52 AM
Given the losses to Pakistan and SL, the England team will be in trouble if they lose tonight. Their last three matches are Australia, India, NZ.
Go Aussies! I probably won't watch the whole match (finishes at ~3am), but the first innings definitely.
That is a really horror draw, because even if they get through, they'll be playing two of those three teams in the Semis and Final again.
I can't see Australia, NZ or India losing twice in a row to England. Those teams are too good not to learn from mistakes.
Tomorrow's game will be great. Two heavy-weights.
I think I might get up early for the Eng-Aus game ...
Try not to boo too loudly @CowboyAndIndian ;)
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 25, 2019, 03:32:37 AM
Pretty different Aussie team from the one that lost 5-0 in ODIs here last year.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 25, 2019, 03:39:43 AM
Try not to boo too loudly
It's likely to be very genteel and restrained booing at Lord's.
I love the smell of sandpaper on leather in the morning...
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 25, 2019, 06:14:44 AM
Given the losses to Pakistan and SL, the England team will be in trouble if they lose tonight. Their last three matches are Australia, India, NZ.
Go Aussies! I probably won't watch the whole match (finishes at ~3am), but the first innings definitely.
That is a really horror draw, because even if they get through, they'll be playing two of those three teams in the Semis and Final again.
I can't see Australia, NZ or India losing twice in a row to England. Those teams are too good not to learn from mistakes.Tomorrow's game will be great. Two heavy-weights.
I think I might get up early for the Eng-Aus game ...
Try not to boo too loudly @CowboyAndIndian ;)
You know, the best part of watching the Aus/Eng game is that I do not care who wins. So, I appreciate every good play!
Finch was set up so well when he got out. There is a release of pressure when you get a century and you let your guard down.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 25, 2019, 06:32:55 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 25, 2019, 06:51:33 AM
Post by: marty998 on June 25, 2019, 06:53:22 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 25, 2019, 07:57:27 AM
Go Aussies! I probably won't watch the whole match (finishes at ~3am), but the first innings definitely.
You might want to watch the England innings. The English batsmen are doing a pretty good impression of falling like dominos! (15 for 2 now).
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 25, 2019, 08:44:15 AM
Post by: SaucyAussie on June 25, 2019, 11:05:53 AM
Post by: jinga nation on June 25, 2019, 11:46:16 AM
I've been to Lords. Went to see Baz & the Kiwis play England in the first test in May 2015.Try not to boo too loudly
It's likely to be very genteel and restrained booing at Lord's.
I love the smell of sandpaper on leather in the morning...
There was some restrained booing because the Kiwis had bitch-slapped the English in the WC group stages just 3 months prior.
It was more like a gentle shushing...
The English cricket crowd doesn't know how to boo properly. Must be that stiff upper lip thing.
I was a few pints in at the end of the day, happy to have enjoyed a rare sunny London day, loud AF while we're packed like sardines in the seats, and all these sour faces giving me and my BILs the looks.
I helped them justify Brexit, in hindsight.
Post by: marty998 on June 26, 2019, 02:31:54 AM
Enjoyed that.
As did Ricky Ponting who was seen smiling like a Cheshire Cat in the dressing room.
Always a good day seeing England crumble. Can we write them off? Are they goooooone?
I have to admit I got it horribly wrong with South Africa. They're quite the rabble this year.
Post by: jinga nation on June 26, 2019, 02:13:45 PM
Pak played well. How long will their momentum last?
Let's see how the Windies quicks do against India tomorrow. And will India middle-order collapse again? Will they go for spin or pace?
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 27, 2019, 07:38:03 AM
Poor wicket keeping by WI. That attempted stumping of Dhoni looked like a high school wicket keeper.
The Indian spinners should find the pitch suitable.
The game could go any way!
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 27, 2019, 07:44:14 AM
Not the ideal score by India. I would have preferred around 300.Doesn't help when Dhoni's strike rate is in the 50s and 60s for much of his innings. Coming in after 25 overs and scoring at under a run a ball is too slow. He was at 20-odd after 40 balls.
Poor wicket keeping by WI. That attempted stumping of Dhoni looked like a high school wicket keeper.
The Indian spinners should find the pitch suitable.
The game could go any way!
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 27, 2019, 07:55:55 AM
Doesn't help when Dhoni's strike rate is in the 50s and 60s for much of his innings. Coming in after 25 overs and scoring at under a run a ball is too slow. He was at 20-odd after 40 balls.
Yeah. He got mercilessly trolled after the last game. I think this tournament is going to be his swan song. The Indian selectors are known for keeping the greats well after they have passed their prime.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 27, 2019, 08:32:33 AM
Post by: jinga nation on June 27, 2019, 11:05:46 AM
The Straya-Kiwi D/N should be interesting... let's see how the Kiwis play that strong Aussie batting order, bowling will be tested.
Win probability is 64% Australia. At Lord's.
The elegantly restrained booing will be hilarious. Wish I could be there. There's always hotstar though.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 27, 2019, 02:39:46 PM
Chances that England can get knocked out of the semis with losses in the 2 games against good teams. If so, Pakistan will probably make the semis with 2 wins against AFG/BD.
NZ also has 2 hard games(Aus/Eng). I predict 2 losses for them, leaving them with 11 points. Even if Bangladesh or Pakistan get 2 wins, they will not have the NRR to make the semis assuming NZ has no blowout losses.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 28, 2019, 05:04:03 AM
So, semis predictions anyone?
Chances that England can get knocked out of the semis with losses in the 2 games against good teams. If so, Pakistan will probably make the semis with 2 wins against AFG/BD.
NZ also has 2 hard games(Aus/Eng). I predict 2 losses for them, leaving them with 11 points. Even if Bangladesh or Pakistan get 2 wins, they will not have the NRR to make the semis assuming NZ has no blowout losses.
I predict that one of the semi finals will be between Australia and New Zealand. The other is India vs... who knows?
Given the run home I wouldn't be surprised if Pakistan are the fourth side. That'd make a very interesting semi final if it's India v Pakistan.
Post by: marty998 on June 28, 2019, 05:42:51 AM
So, semis predictions anyone?
Chances that England can get knocked out of the semis with losses in the 2 games against good teams. If so, Pakistan will probably make the semis with 2 wins against AFG/BD.
NZ also has 2 hard games(Aus/Eng). I predict 2 losses for them, leaving them with 11 points. Even if Bangladesh or Pakistan get 2 wins, they will not have the NRR to make the semis assuming NZ has no blowout losses.
I predict that one of the semi finals will be between Australia and New Zealand. The other is India vs... who knows?
Given the run home I wouldn't be surprised if Pakistan are the fourth side. That'd make a very interesting semi final if it's India v Pakistan.
Mumble mumble nuclear war mumble mumble.
Given there are more Indian and Pakistani expats in England than English people who is going to claim it as a home game?
Post by: jinga nation on June 28, 2019, 06:04:42 AM
So, semis predictions anyone?
Chances that England can get knocked out of the semis with losses in the 2 games against good teams. If so, Pakistan will probably make the semis with 2 wins against AFG/BD.
NZ also has 2 hard games(Aus/Eng). I predict 2 losses for them, leaving them with 11 points. Even if Bangladesh or Pakistan get 2 wins, they will not have the NRR to make the semis assuming NZ has no blowout losses.
I predict that one of the semi finals will be between Australia and New Zealand. The other is India vs... who knows?
Given the run home I wouldn't be surprised if Pakistan are the fourth side. That'd make a very interesting semi final if it's India v Pakistan.
Mumble mumble nuclear war mumble mumble.
Given there are more Indian and Pakistani expats in England than English people who is going to claim it as a home game?
Semi-finals are in Manchester and Birmingham. It will be a home game for India and Pakistan (if they get #4 spot). I'm assuming 1v4 and 2v3.
There's a heck ton of Indians and Pakistanis living in the UK. The 2011 census lists the British Indian population as 1,451,862 (2.30%), and British Pakistani as 1,174,983 (1.9%) (numbers from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian).
It doesn't matter who you are or where you come from when Ind v Pak and Aus v NZ are on. It's a thriller that any cricket fan would not miss.
Or Eng vs Any of the those 4.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 28, 2019, 06:40:56 AM
Mumble mumble nuclear war mumble mumble.
Given there are more Indian and Pakistani expats in England than English people who is going to claim it as a home game?
Lol!
I know of those crazy Indians, like me, who buy tickets a year in advance for the last India game and the finals. I think there will be more Indians in those stands than Pakistanis. Any cricket game, anywhere in the world, is a home game for the Indians.
In 2007, we had bought tickets to the WC in Antigua planning that India would be in one of the games. Unfortunately, they were knocked out before that round. You should have seen the stadium for the Eng/SL and the NZ/BD game it was a sea of blue. There were a handful of Kiwis (20?), but they made up for the rest in beer drinking. And their haka dance was pretty impressive. About 2 from SL and maybe 10% of the crowd from England and 10% local Antiguans. Was such a fun week, cricket on the beaches, open bars in resorts, sun and sand, and beautiful turquoise water.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 29, 2019, 08:52:14 AM
Given there are more Indian and Pakistani expats in England than English people who is going to claim it as a home game?
Will certainly be more Indian than Pakistan supporters, just because of the price of tickets and the relative wealth of the two groups. Most English people don't follow cricket at all, so British Asians make up a pretty substantial proportion of the total number of cricket fans here.
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 29, 2019, 10:45:16 AM
Post by: deborah on June 29, 2019, 01:56:58 PM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on June 30, 2019, 05:50:53 AM
Looks like England have decided to re-enter the tournament and have a great score (205/2 in 32 overs) (reading the score on my mobile)
Post by: cerat0n1a on June 30, 2019, 05:57:23 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on June 30, 2019, 06:01:11 AM
That catch by Jadeja to dismiss Roy was very impressive.
I'm not sure which team to barrack for in this one. It's always good from an Aussie perspective to see England lose, but I also want to see India lose a game so we have a hope of beating them if we meet India in the finals :)
Geez the English batsmen have put the cue in the rack. Scared of hitting the ball.
Post by: jinga nation on July 01, 2019, 08:08:20 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/alv7x3xicj731.jpg?width=462&auto=webp&s=f11d5e7cb0da461e76be9e78d6654262027c84e0)
source: https://old.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/c7hnvf/world_cup_2019_updated_win_chain_poor_afghanistan/
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 01, 2019, 09:44:30 AM
no unbeaten team, this is good.
Afghanistan would be on there too, if Gulbadin hadn't brought himself on to bowl.
As people were discussing kit colours earlier in the thread, any thoughts on India's road-mender orange yesterday?
Post by: jinga nation on July 01, 2019, 10:38:59 AM
no unbeaten team, this is good.
Afghanistan would be on there too, if Gulbadin hadn't brought himself on to bowl.
As people were discussing kit colours earlier in the thread, any thoughts on India's road-mender orange yesterday?
Gulbadin was a greedy git... wanted the glory but lost them the game.
Orange you glad there'll be more shirt sales? India should play more in 2nd kit. Apropos, they do need to mend themselves in the middle order.
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 01, 2019, 12:33:50 PM
Apropos, they do need to mend themselves in the middle order.
Best two ODI batsmen and best ODI bowler (and probably best overall ODI team) but the middle order is definitely the weak link. Maybe someone needs to be brave enough to drop MS Dhoni.
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 02, 2019, 07:51:08 AM
Slightly amusing to see Virat Kohli trying to hit a 6 on the boundary he called "ridiculously short" and being caught out; seemed like he struck the ball pretty well too.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 02, 2019, 08:54:15 AM
Tomorrow's match will be big for determining the final four. If England lose, they're in some serious danger of being eliminated.
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 02, 2019, 10:18:54 AM
Tomorrow's match will be big for determining the final four. If England lose, they're in some serious danger of being eliminated.
Yep, basically a knock-out game for England, although it would be entirely in character for Pakistan to mess things up against Bangladesh.
For some reason I thought this game was Thursday (when I'm out walking all day), but you've pointed out that it's Wednesday (when my wife is out), so I should be able to listen to the cricket all day...
The women's football world cup semi-finals are getting all the attention here today, the first time in the spotlight for women's soccer in the UK, really.
Post by: jinga nation on July 02, 2019, 11:00:33 AM
The English know their gardening... never doubt their grounds teams.
Post by: marty998 on July 05, 2019, 03:46:38 AM
the cricket grounds/pitch/wicket have been good for bowlers. I like that more than just high scores. Some cricket journos are saying the ground prep has been of superb quality.
The English know their gardening... never doubt their grounds teams.
I think it's also called pressure. There's none in the IPL - you turn up and win or lose you get paid millions.
Here at the WC you are playing for history. One rash shot or one dropped catch could mean another four years wait to hold the trophy.
Post by: marty998 on July 06, 2019, 05:00:48 PM
Predicting the finals between England and India.
This may yet still happen.
No love for Australia?
Naah, Australia will be out before the semis!
This did not happen!
pick: SA
2nd pick: NZ
I don't think anyone expected the South Africans to be that far off their game for most of the tournament...
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 07, 2019, 06:58:15 AM
Had to visit family and could not see the full SA/Aus game. Saw the last 3 overs that SA batted in. Must have been an exciting finish.
On to the semis!
Only regret from this world cup, there are only 3 games left!
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 07, 2019, 07:40:41 AM
https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket-world-cup-2019/story/virat-kohli-and-kane-williamson-were-captains-in-india-vs-new-zealand-under-19-world-cup-semi-final-1563865-2019-07-07
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 09, 2019, 04:02:47 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 09, 2019, 04:08:45 AM
The Kiwis are having a starting problem. 8 for 1 after 6 overs.I put that down to the pressure by the Indian bowling attack and in the field. They're a class above.
I wish those bloody noisy trumpets in the crowd would stop. I almost have to have the TV on mute.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 09, 2019, 04:53:32 AM
I wish those bloody noisy trumpets in the crowd would stop. I almost have to have the TV on mute.
Remember the vuvuzelas in the football world cup in South Africa? Those trumpets are far better!
Post by: marty998 on July 09, 2019, 04:59:15 AM
I wish those bloody noisy trumpets in the crowd would stop. I almost have to have the TV on mute.
Remember the vuvuzelas in the football world cup in South Africa? Those trumpets are far better!
I'm with @alsoknownasDean on this one, these trumpets are ridiculous. There's no rhythm, and no tune. It's just noise.
Makes me pine for the Barmy Army Bugler.
*Mute*
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 09, 2019, 05:15:44 AM
Remember the vuvuzelas in the football world cup in South Africa? Those trumpets are far better!
Barely. They're both just constant noise.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 09, 2019, 05:35:37 AM
I wish those bloody noisy trumpets in the crowd would stop. I almost have to have the TV on mute.
Remember the vuvuzelas in the football world cup in South Africa? Those trumpets are far better!
I'm with @alsoknownasDean on this one, these trumpets are ridiculous. There's no rhythm, and no tune. It's just noise.
Makes me pine for the Barmy Army Bugler.
*Mute*
I'll pick the noisy, boisterous and passionate Indian fans compared to the dead-fish impression of the Kiwi fans. Not even a Haka.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 09, 2019, 05:38:06 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 09, 2019, 07:04:44 AM
I'll pick the noisy, boisterous and passionate Indian fans compared to the dead-fish impression of the Kiwi fans.
I think I'd have a headache after ten overs being in that crowd.
Shame about the rain.
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 09, 2019, 09:04:34 AM
If somehow DLS comes into play and India lose a lot of overs, it gets interesting. The targets would be:
35 overs - 209
30 overs - 192
25 overs - 172
20 overs - 148
Doesn't look a like a pitch to score quickly, the wet outfield will be slow and chasing totals under the lights (play can go on until 10pm) might get interesting.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 09, 2019, 10:34:44 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 09, 2019, 01:00:39 PM
England v Australia on Thursday looks a lot more doubtful. I think Australia go through as the higher placed finisher if they can't get the game on.
Post by: marty998 on July 10, 2019, 04:09:22 AM
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Post by: cerat0n1a on July 10, 2019, 04:28:09 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 10, 2019, 04:51:08 AM
Post by: marty998 on July 10, 2019, 04:52:48 AM
Absolute spectacular catch to get rid of Kartik
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 10, 2019, 04:57:17 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 10, 2019, 05:01:14 AM
That catch was impressive. If they get these two blokes and Dhoni out cheaply, it'll be a big uphill climb for the Indian side.
Although 240 isn't a huge total, if these two blokes hang around they can still get away with the win.
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 10, 2019, 05:18:03 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 10, 2019, 05:22:46 AM
I woke up late for the start (7am) and missed the fireworks.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 10, 2019, 05:48:16 AM
Might be Dhoni's last knock too.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 10, 2019, 06:12:18 AM
Needs to pick up for India to have a chance.
Post by: Mr Mark on July 10, 2019, 07:07:10 AM
Post by: marty998 on July 10, 2019, 07:11:48 AM
Jadeja on 50. Nine runs an over still needed off the last 8.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 10, 2019, 07:14:33 AM
Post by: Mr Mark on July 10, 2019, 07:14:49 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 10, 2019, 07:28:51 AM
last 4 overs were just more than 9 per over. its going to the wire!
What a roller-coaster! Very bad for my high blood pressure ;-)
Post by: Mr Mark on July 10, 2019, 07:29:16 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 10, 2019, 07:31:17 AM
Post by: marty998 on July 10, 2019, 07:38:44 AM
Can't believe this is still going!
Post by: Mr Mark on July 10, 2019, 07:39:23 AM
Post by: marty998 on July 10, 2019, 07:42:33 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 10, 2019, 07:43:06 AM
It's up to Dhoni now.
Post by: Mr Mark on July 10, 2019, 07:49:39 AM
6!
run out!
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 10, 2019, 07:50:06 AM
What a run out! Brilliant fielding.
Post by: Mr Mark on July 10, 2019, 07:56:35 AM
Victory!!!
Post by: marty998 on July 10, 2019, 07:56:58 AM
Post by: Mr Mark on July 10, 2019, 07:57:26 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 10, 2019, 07:59:30 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 10, 2019, 08:03:03 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 10, 2019, 08:04:36 AM
Post by: marty998 on July 11, 2019, 04:13:33 AM
Hopefully Smith and Carey can stay in for the next 30 overs or so. I’ll back us to defend 220.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 11, 2019, 07:18:15 AM
Are they going to suffer the same fate?
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 11, 2019, 08:09:45 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 11, 2019, 08:54:16 AM
Wicket looks a lot more benign than yesterday and the ball doesn't seem to be swinging. Bound to be a few twists in the story before the end though.
95 for no loss. Looks like England has got Oz's number.
Nice seeing a non-Indian crowd so animate.
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 11, 2019, 08:55:13 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 11, 2019, 08:59:07 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 11, 2019, 09:21:24 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 11, 2019, 09:35:44 AM
Roy cheated of a century by the umpire. Pathetic, it was so far from the bat!It was a very poor decision, but also a very poor decision by Bairstow to waste the review on a very clearcut lbw.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 11, 2019, 09:58:13 AM
What are those Aussie fan hats with strings around the rim with something hanging off the string?
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 11, 2019, 09:58:40 AM
Roy cheated of a century by the umpire. Pathetic, it was so far from the bat!It was a very poor decision, but also a very poor decision by Bairstow to waste the review on a very clearcut lbw.
True, but you expect higher standards for a WC semi.
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 11, 2019, 10:02:22 AM
Can someone explain something?
What are those hats with strings around the rim with something hanging off the string?
Stereotypical Aussie headgear, to keep the blowflies off. Worn only by tourists, of course.
Post by: marty998 on July 11, 2019, 03:30:13 PM
Post by: deborah on July 11, 2019, 03:37:04 PM
Can someone explain something?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_hat
What are those Aussie fan hats with strings around the rim with something hanging off the string?
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 12, 2019, 01:57:08 AM
Nice seeing a non-Indian crowd so animate.
Saw a quote from Zainab Abbas saying it was the best support she'd seen for Pakistan in 25 years of watching. I guess they don't get to play at home so much.
Post by: marty998 on July 12, 2019, 03:07:34 AM
We can dare to dream but geez even if we get out of the group stage (with Wales), we'll likely be playing England or France in a quarter final. If we lose to Fiji in the first match it could be all over before it even begins.
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 12, 2019, 05:18:06 AM
With both the women's soccer team and now the men's cricket team falling over there was a wonderful headline on the Betoota FB page today saying that Australia's sporting hopes now lie with the Wallabies :P
I had the impression that Netball was way more popular in Australia than in the UK and that Australia were quite likely to win the current world cup in that?
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 12, 2019, 06:04:34 AM
Looks like I am jumping on the NZ bandwagon for the final.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I usually root for the underdog. So, NZ it is.
My son is the only one able to go to the finals, he is going to get a NZ hat. Look out for the tall Indian dude with the black hat in the Mound stand.
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 14, 2019, 04:20:02 AM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 14, 2019, 06:41:21 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 14, 2019, 06:57:59 AM
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 14, 2019, 06:58:50 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 14, 2019, 07:06:09 AM
If they get Roy and Bairstow out cheaply you never know.Yep - they had India at 5-3 and as it stands will need to do something similar. England bat down to 9 or 10 though.
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 14, 2019, 07:51:38 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 14, 2019, 08:00:09 AM
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 14, 2019, 09:52:59 AM
Post by: never give up on July 14, 2019, 12:01:43 PM
Post by: deborah on July 14, 2019, 12:04:14 PM
Post by: CowboyAndIndian on July 14, 2019, 01:32:02 PM
We will be talking about this game for years.
Congratulations England. NZ, what a great game.
Post by: cerat0n1a on July 14, 2019, 02:12:53 PM
Commiserations to NZ, who really didn't deserve to lose, delighted to see that Kane Williamson got player of the tournament.
It's been a brilliant event - really great to see so much travelling support for India, Pakistan, Bangladesh & Afghanistan, in particular, but every country had supporters there and although it seems like there's been some ticketing problems, great that most games have had pretty decent crowds and there's been so many exciting games and a good balance between batting and bowling.
I hope this win does something to reverse the slow decline of cricket in England (in terms of numbers playing, numbers watching live and tv ratings) that's happened over the last few decades.
I wonder what Ben Stokes's dad (who played rugby league for New Zealand in the 1970s and 1980s) thinks of the whole thing.
Post by: marty998 on July 14, 2019, 03:08:27 PM
Why not simply go to another Super over?
Post by: alsoknownasDean on July 14, 2019, 05:18:23 PM
Oh that's an awful way to win/lose the world cup - hitting more boundaries in the match? Which muppet came up with that rule?Or 'fewest wickets lost'.
Why not simply go to another Super over?
I was asleep for most of the latter half of the match, but it seems to have been a great game. Congratulations to England on the win.
Post by: kei te pai on July 14, 2019, 08:46:12 PM
Post by: Mr Mark on July 15, 2019, 08:38:26 AM
...Or 'fewest wickets lost'.
Why not simply go to another Super over?
...
yeah... I think it's pretty fair to call that a tie. Winning/losing on a technicality sucks. But what a game.