The important thing, to me, is that this is not the first time judge Aaron Persky has given an especially lenient sentence to a rapist. Evidently Judge Persky is not concerned that the victim has a life sentence.
And, as I have never attempted to sodomize anyone that is passed out drunk, I really don't understand why the above poster is throwing the victim under the bus. But thanks for the proof that rape culture is alive and well.
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I didn't throw the victim under the bus. I didn't say and don't believe it was her fault. I actually can't believe what a colossal dumbass this kid was for leaving the bar with a girl that drunk (you put those ones in a cab with their license spit-stuck to their forehead because they'll be asleep before you can get them to the apartment - I'm an inside the box thinker, in the alley by the dumpster wouldn't have occurred to me). I wasn't aware that someone had sent the victim to prison for life. I absolutely don't support that. She should be set free.
Everything I've said is focused on the perp and his sentence. The victim has a statement where most of the bad things she is describing are a result of everyone else's reaction to the rape which she doesn't have any personal knowledge of. Blaming the victim looks different. That's saying things like "she shouldn't have gotten black out drunk." I support everyone's right to get black out drunk, wake up in an alley half naked with grass in their hair, and wonder what the fuck happened last night. God bless America, let us never change.
Finding out you got raped/assaulted is totally unacceptable though. Getting raped/assaulted is totally unacceptable regardless of what led up to it. No means No. Yes means yes. And unconscious means time to stop.
That sounds bad. I don't meant to imply that this is like when a baby falls off a couch and hits her head, and all the adults pretend it is no big deal, because if the baby sees an adult freak out it'll freak out. This is definitely worse than that. But there are elements to her experience, and from her statement it is absolutely clear that she understand this, where the worst part was what came after. And that's all on the perp too, as the originator, but we're sort of accomplices. No amount of ensuring the perpetrator gets raped is going to make this right. It's possible that in this case what should have happened did happen (not the rape, talking about the conviction and sentencing).
My point is that there is no way for us to know what happened. We have the statement from the victim, the two witnesses and the perpetrator. And the scene they lay out could have played out a number of ways. In not all of those ways is this perpetrator a total-scumbag-rapist. Two drunk people left a bar together, and then later one was found, in a condition where he was capable of running, laying on top of the other who was unconscious. When approached by two hostile Swedish gentleman, this champion swimmer chose flight, but due to his inebriated condition was tackled by one of the swedes.
Is that what happened? Nah, this guy is a scumbag rapist. Probably. I can't know, and neither can you.
There's a possibility here, that two drunk people started humping in an alley, one passed out and the other is going to jail.
That is a possibility. And if that's what happened, it's a little odd to get hysterical about a miscarriage of justice because he's not going to jail for longer.
And if the roles are reversed, and some woman is riding a guy in an alley and he passes out, she wouldn't be going to jail.
Because equality. Also something about rape culture. Wrong hill to die on.
