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Any other dudes who don't care for stereotypical "guy" interests?
« on: September 15, 2016, 12:05:10 PM »
I find myself disliking most traditional "guy" interests. For example:

  • I don't know much about tools and I own only the very most basic ones (hammer, screwdrivers, drill, ratchet/socket set)
  • I would never want to go hunting. I don't see the thrill of killing an animal for sport. I just don't get it. I've went fishing like twice and disliked even that.
  • I don't drink much alcohol. Once in a while, I'll have a beer or a glass of wine.
  • I don't own a gun or really have much desire to own one. I've fired a gun once in my life, and that was just during testing so I could get a conceal carry license when I was a prosecutor.
  • Muscle cars and/or exotic cars do nothing for me. I'm fine driving my old Jeep.

Now, I DO enjoy working out with weights, watching/playing some sports, and obviously sex, oh and I guess I am obsessed with finances now (if that is a traditional "guy" thing), but other than that, I would much rather read a good book, or write a book, play with my kids, take a run, play a board game, or just have one of those awesome deep conversations with a few friends about important stuff like family matters, philosophies about life, religion (or atheism), politics and current events, etc. I have a monthly lunch with some friends that is one of the highlights of my month because it's always such an intelligent, honest conversation with no posturing.

Any kindred spirits on the boards?

PS: I'm not slamming anyone who enjoys the listed activities above. I have several guy friends who like hunting, drink a lot, own guns, etc. But those guys also have a few overlapping interests with me (like we pull for the same sports team or enjoy having great talks over lunch), so we focus on the common interests.

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2016, 12:07:51 PM »
Similar in nearly every respect.  Have become a little more open to Old School Guy Stuff over time, but started out almost identical. 

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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2016, 12:32:08 PM »
As someone surrounded by the military I totally get where your coming from.  I'm the token liberal surrounded by conservatives who doesn't like to spend spend spend, drive big trucks, shoot big guns, throw huge parties, blast out hard rock, or just constantly hit up the bars.

I drink, I party, I do have some fancy suits, and some old school hand tools for wood working.  But apparently I just don't keep up enough with the modern trends that I apparently need to have...  Oh well.

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2016, 12:40:19 PM »
Bicycle_B and Fudge 102,

Ah, kindred spirits! It's great to hear from you both.

I used to think I had to "prove myself" somehow because I never really liked those things, but I've been coming to grips with the fact I shouldn't give a shit if my interests don't link up with the "norm" in my red state.

I try not to be snobby or judgmental about it though. I can almost always find a common interest, even with a "redneck" sort of dude (and I use that term because they themselves use and embrace the term).


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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2016, 12:42:49 PM »
If my husband were on the forums, he would fit right into this discussion. He knows a fair amount about fixing things, but it's not a hobby, nor does he own much more than you do (and what he does was actually my stuff when we got married).

He does all the grocery shopping and all the cooking. He doesn't hunt. The only gun we have is my father's shotgun, which I kept when he died because it's one of the only things of his I have. He knows next to nothing about cars. He does drink alcohol, but he is more of a craft cocktail (which he makes himself) and wine guy

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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2016, 12:44:17 PM »
Seeing you everywhere today Nick_Miller. Count me in to disliking the majority of "guy things". No real interest in sports, cars, fixing things, or the outdoors. Count me in for reading, playing games, and hanging out. I will admit to being a bit of an alcoholic though, I favor liquor with low-calorie mixers, red wine, or tasty beers.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2016, 12:50:15 PM »
It's best if you don't really think of stuff in terms of "Guy" and "Girl" things.  Just do what makes you happy.

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2016, 01:15:48 PM »
Bicycle_B and Fudge 102,

I used to think I had to "prove myself" somehow because I never really liked those things, but I've been coming to grips with the fact I shouldn't give a shit if my interests don't link up with the "norm" in my red state.

I try not to be snobby or judgmental about it though. I can almost always find a common interest, even with a "redneck" sort of dude (and I use that term because they themselves use and embrace the term).

This is very cultural. Your entire stereotype list does not apply to me or the vast majority of guys I know. I have lived in either blue or purple states and work has had me in liberal areas within those regions. (I have no problem with people who do hunt, shoot or drink responsibly and ethically.)

Your question - is anyone like me? - is funny because where I live, you'd have the guy who DOES like hunting, shooting, and drinking posting because they are the one who doesn't fit in.

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2016, 01:30:39 PM »
I don't like any of the things OP posted either.  I like to joke that it's good I love playing and watching sports and hiking/backpacking/camping, otherwise I'd have to hand in my man card. 

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2016, 01:36:56 PM »
I like to drink heavily while operating power tools and while driving my Transam and shooting at targets with high caliber hand guns.

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2016, 01:40:07 PM »
1) I know nothing about tools
2) I tried to go hunting once and couldn't bring myself to do it.
3) I've never drank
4) My house owns a lot of guns: 4 for work, plus 1 for home protection, 1 for zombie defense.
5) I bought a mustang 8 years ago because i though it looked cool. I have since realized I don't care at all about cars.

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2016, 01:42:36 PM »
I am hit and miss.

* Don't care for sports
* Don't care for hunting (but I'm pretty omnivorous, so I'll usually eat what someone else hunts).

But I've long loved cars and planes and tractors and almost anything motorized.  And I have a few guns (though not nearly as many as my wife.)  And tools are sort of my gazingus pin. 

I will say: A Jeep is just as much a stereotypical guy car as any old muscle car.

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2016, 01:45:34 PM »
Traditional Concepts
  • Tools - YES (Enjoy building things out of wood)
  • Hunting / Guns - NO
  • Drinking - YES (Craft Beer, some wine, not much in the way of liquor / cocktails any more - but not into bar scene)
  • Hiking / Camping / Fire - YES
  • Sports - NO (Kind of like volleyball and bowling... watching most sports is abysmal, cannot stand fantasy sports or sports discussions)
  • Cars - YES (Drive a truck, read about cars, used to own sporty cars, not into exotics/luxury)
  • Weights - YES
  • Money / Finance - YES
  • Suits - NO
  • Gadgets - NO (Yes and no - they interest me but I don't have to have the latest, a "smart watch" etc
  • Watches - YES (Primary daily driver is a Citizen Eco-Drive)
Non-traditional
  • Board Games / D&D - YES
  • Reading - YES (mostly non-fiction about business, psychology/behavior)
  • Groceries / Cooking / Baking - YES (My Wife does a great job of shopping / cooking; I do most of the baking and try to grocery shop as she hates it; enjoy Gas Grill)

Now that I've completed your quiz, please label my stereotype profile. Thank you!

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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2016, 03:44:49 PM »
As someone surrounded by the military I totally get where your coming from.  I'm the token liberal surrounded by conservatives who doesn't like to spend spend spend, drive big trucks, shoot big guns, throw huge parties, blast out hard rock, or just constantly hit up the bars.

I drink, I party, I do have some fancy suits, and some old school hand tools for wood working.  But apparently I just don't keep up enough with the modern trends that I apparently need to have...  Oh well.

I'm in the Army and don't drink, don't watch sports, not very mechanically inclined (I play with electronics though), and don't like rowdy parties.  I'm really boring when placed among my professional peers.  My father made "man card" jokes when I told him I was buying a used Prius.  He knows my frugal lifestyle and was just having fun with me, but I've been teased on a more serious level by other guys who think there's something actually wrong with me for not owning a pickup truck and not spending all my spare money on firearms. I own one. And I rarely shoot it.

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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2016, 04:02:13 PM »
Some of these sound more like redneck interests than guy interests.

As someone surrounded by the military I totally get where your coming from.  I'm the token liberal surrounded by conservatives who doesn't like to spend spend spend, drive big trucks, shoot big guns, throw huge parties, blast out hard rock, or just constantly hit up the bars.

This is completely me. 

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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2016, 04:06:57 PM »
I can understand and relate to most of the posts. I agree with the one where its more about what makes you happy and not how you compare to others.

Being in law enforcement, there is more testosterone chest pumping than I think anywhere else on the planet. Monday mornings are difficult because I don't religiously watch sports. I like playing sports (flag football, golf). I don't own any personal guns...I get several issued from work which satisfies that area. I don't hunt because I get bored too easily, but I do talk to others at work about hunting because I take their extra meat for my freezer. I have sold extra pheasant from my buddy's bird hunts to friends for a small profit.

Now, I like cars, especially muscle cars. I like to build things and re-purpose items when I can, so I am a tinkerer. I like to garden and farming/homesteading interests me very much. I find the greatest joys when I go sailing, work at a friend's sawmill, and designing useful things. But compared to my co-workers, I'm the weird guy....the weird guy who is completely happy outside of work doing all the things I enjoy.

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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2016, 04:12:50 PM »
This needs to be some sort of MMM club or group.

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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2016, 08:29:51 PM »
Thinking it over again, ironically I listen to podcasts about "manliness."  But they all tend to focus on becoming a better man through personal development, relationships, and skills.  Not so much through acquiring gadgets and such.  With the one exception about having a little bit of style thrown in.

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2016, 08:38:51 PM »
You know, I use to like most stereotypical guy stuff, but I kind of moved past most of it.

I used to like working on cars/building stuff.   Now it feels like a chore.

I used to shoot competitively.  Lost interest at some point.   Still own a bunch of guns.

I used to do a lot of hiking/mountain biking/rock climbing...just stopped at one point, I guess.

I never liked muscle cars, I liked sports cars and still have one.  Needs to be fixed.  See the first point.

I still kinda like loud music and drinking.

Maybe I'm just getting old. 

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2016, 08:40:46 PM »
I hate car stuff.

I don't like tinkering with my toaster to get it to work, why would I like doing that with my car?

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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2016, 09:02:01 PM »
I do think it's worth distinguishing between hunting and gun ownership as it was traditionally practiced and what passes for "gun culture" now.

Historically, gun ownership and hunting was something that passes the sniff test of a frugal and ethical hobby. You own a rifle and a shotgun, and you go out in August, sight the rifle in, and then fill the freezer in the fall, for the cost of your in-state tag and 10 bucks in ammo (plus the cost of butchering and freezing, which might be non-trivial depending on how you do it). But it's good protein for all winter and it came from an animal that lived a decent existence. This is the kind of gun and hunting culture in which I learned to shoot.

I really have trouble relating to people who drop big coin on gun collections or ripping through a bunch of semi-auto or full-auto ammo. To me, the gun is a tool and the tool's purpose is to put meat in the freezer. I take some pride in my proficiency with it, but it isn't different from my proficiency with a wrench or a Windows laptop.

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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2016, 09:05:39 PM »
Definitely can relate to the OP.

Tools:  I enjoy 'playing' with tools but I do not own many besides the basics.
Firearms:  I actually enjoyed practicing (cost prohibitive), but I do not own one.
Sports:  Do not watch any or play any but I do love martial arts which is more a lifestyle.
Hunting:  Not interested more interested in survival skills.
Drinking:  I enjoy but in strict moderation.
Cars:  I just want something safe and fuel efficient.
Weights:  In moderation.
Finance:  Naturally.
Suits:  I enjoy a good one but have enough for a lifetime.
Watches:  I do not use.
Gadgets:  I do not use.
Gambling:  I avoid.

I am much more interested in personal development, reading books, real estate, travel hacking, film, animation, alternative living, and FIRE.  Cheers!

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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2016, 06:06:06 AM »
-Guns, woods, etc. I'm in the camp with GhostSaver. I go into the woods but it is to think and pray or just to prepare to hunt not to ride four wheelers and burn stuff.
-Sports-can't stand watching tv. I like going to my alma mater tailgating(actually going into the stadium is minimally rewarding.
-Tv and Beer. no way.
-Cars. Kinda like them but it is a LOT of work. not worth it.
-Tools. too expensive and trouble. use them when I have to.
-Good beer. sorry dudes, Im a homebrewer. guess I just lost my non-conformist card. sad face.

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2016, 06:14:27 AM »
I've got buddies that will burn an entire nice day watching football , Nascar, etc.   Seems like a horrible waste of time to me, just can't do it.

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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2016, 09:20:09 AM »
oh man....sports. I just cannot get into them. I grew up in a rural-ish part of the world where it was a given that boys would like and play sports. It took until college to learn that it's okay to just not like sports. I thought there was something wrong with me.

I play fantasy football only because it seems to be the best way to keep in touch with my high school friends. The drumbeat of it forces email chains, texts, IRL meetings etc that we can't seem to make happen any other way. But I treat it like any other stat-hobby and don't actually watch the games.

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2016, 09:42:04 AM »
I used to be that way, but have come around to a few things. 

I like figuring things out, and with home ownership, I like the challenge of getting tools and fixing things myself even if it means that I have a plumber and electrician on speed dial for when I am in over my head. 

I used to think that working on cars was foolish, because they are not like the used to be where Dad was covered in grease in the garage fixing something on the car, with a frosty beer in hand. But having recently purchased an OBDII computer, and had the thrill of saving myself a bunch of cash by diagnosing and fixing a problem that would have cost me just under $1k from a shop for less than $75 - without the beer of course.

As for guns, I don't own one. But I was invited out to a range for instruction last year, and shot clays, which was shockingly fun. 

I enjoy cooking. Being a desk jockey for most of the days, I like things where I can get my hands dirty and create something. 
 
Although, I will say I tried yoga and it confirmed to me that its not for me, and I have never been hunting as I am not sure its my cup of tea. 

My point is variety is the spice of life, and I wouldn't rule things out until you try them, you might be shocked that you enjoy something that you thought was absurd (save for things like heroin, meth and the like).

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2016, 10:19:36 AM »
I don't give any fucks at all about sports, despite working in the industry. Other stuff is pretty 'typical', per your list.  I have $lots in tools (which have saved me a ton of money), a fast car, used to have a 4x4 when I lived in the desert, have a decent gun collection, etc. I usually dance (blues/fusion) at least once a week, so that may be considered atypical.

I used to be that way, but have come around to a few things. 

I like figuring things out, and with home ownership, I like the challenge of getting tools and fixing things myself even if it means that I have a plumber and electrician on speed dial for when I am in over my head. 

I used to think that working on cars was foolish, because they are not like the used to be where Dad was covered in grease in the garage fixing something on the car, with a frosty beer in hand. But having recently purchased an OBDII computer, and had the thrill of saving myself a bunch of cash by diagnosing and fixing a problem that would have cost me just under $1k from a shop for less than $75 - without the beer of course.

As for guns, I don't own one. But I was invited out to a range for instruction last year, and shot clays, which was shockingly fun. 

I enjoy cooking. Being a desk jockey for most of the days, I like things where I can get my hands dirty and create something. 
 
Although, I will say I tried yoga and it confirmed to me that its not for me, and I have never been hunting as I am not sure its my cup of tea. 

My point is variety is the spice of life, and I wouldn't rule things out until you try them, you might be shocked that you enjoy something that you thought was absurd (save for things like heroin, meth and the like).

Working on modern cars is nice.  A lot of old-timers talk down on "them newfangled computars"..but it makes diagnosing a lot of problems incredibly easy.

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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2016, 11:11:37 AM »
oh man....sports. I just cannot get into them. I grew up in a rural-ish part of the world where it was a given that boys would like and play sports. It took until college to learn that it's okay to just not like sports. I thought there was something wrong with me.

I play fantasy football only because it seems to be the best way to keep in touch with my high school friends. The drumbeat of it forces email chains, texts, IRL meetings etc that we can't seem to make happen any other way. But I treat it like any other stat-hobby and don't actually watch the games.

I do like me some fantasy football, but mostly for the social reasons you describe! It's awesome constantly texting and meeting up with buddies and always having something to trash talk about. We each tossed in $100, which may not be the most Mustachian thing to do, but I think it's a pretty cheap way to ensure some quality buddy time for a four-month period. And we don't often go to bars (which would be expensive). Someone usually hosts on game day, or else we all just watch at home and trash talk via text for hours, which is surprisingly fun.


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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2016, 01:00:21 PM »
I find myself disliking most traditional "guy" interests. For example:

  • I don't know much about tools and I own only the very most basic ones (hammer, screwdrivers, drill, ratchet/socket set)
  • I would never want to go hunting. I don't see the thrill of killing an animal for sport. I just don't get it. I've went fishing like twice and disliked even that.
  • I don't drink much alcohol. Once in a while, I'll have a beer or a glass of wine.
  • I don't own a gun or really have much desire to own one. I've fired a gun once in my life, and that was just during testing so I could get a conceal carry license when I was a prosecutor.
  • Muscle cars and/or exotic cars do nothing for me. I'm fine driving my old Jeep.


I don't know how old you are, but I think broadening out of interests is part of aging.

Also, I think that gendered interests were much more culturally enforced for the older Boomers and previous generations, whereas from GenXers forward the culture seems more open to people pursuing whatever the hell pings their interest. This is also somewhat a product of shifting to a less rural population, and a global economy opening up things like foodie culture, etc (e.g., as recently as the early 80s, small and mid town America had only a few brands to choose from in terms of most products, and ethnic cooking was unknown in a lot of the country...exacerbated by the fact that a lot of the ingredients weren't available.)

Granted, traditional stereotypes might still be much for strongly enforced at lower income or lower education populations. My experience is with higher education, though not necessarily higher income people.  I don't see many gendered patterns in our group; rather, I think similar interests and work tend to self select for certain types of hobbies. Many of our 'tribe' are biologists or tangentially related, so outdoor activities tend to be a common interest.

About one-third of the men, and maybe half the women, are heavily into cooking/baking. We don't have too many outright foodies, though. Most are adventurous eaters.

No one that I am aware is 'into' sports cars or hot rods or Nascar. I mean, they will admire hot cars in passing, and they enjoy driving them on occasion, but I don't know of anyone who has purchased one. One person inherited one and drove it for a while, then ditched it because it wasn't practical (his other car was a 70s era van). I'm sure a few people harbor a desire to buy a hot car if they have the money (even I get weak for '60s Mustangs, though I could give two shits about cars in general), but most are too busy with more practical vehicles. A few men in our group DO have gear-head tendencies about fully loaded pickup trucks, and will (IMO) overspend on those. To their credit, many of them DO use the trucks for the aforementioned outdoor activities and hobbies, or as part of field work.

About two thirds of the overall group (slightly more men) are into watching some sports (mostly football) but most won't spend entire days watching sports on tv, except as background noise while they do work-related stuff on weekends. Attending games is a very occasional recreational thing, not a regular pastime. I can't think of any who PLAY or coach sports, although a few are into something called Tough Mudding(?), a few are into road-racing bikes, and a few do marathons/triatholons. This might just be a function of age and level of life busy-ness, but sports don't seem to be a common free time hobby.  A few in our circle are vehemently anti sports (they dislike the culture related to U.S. sports, esp for kids, and wish Americans would focus more on intellectual pursuits).

Very few were ever much into the drinking/bar scene except when they were 'on the prowl' as undergrads. (However, keep in mind much of this group likes being out in the woods/deserts/mountains ALONE or in very small groups, and dislikes crowds and noise.) Most of our group do drink regularly and more of the men tend to be 'into' good scotch, whiskey, and craft beer. About a third have dabbled in home-brewing or count it a regular hobby, but a handful of the women also do.

Re: tools/do it yourself ism...Extremely variable; some are extremely handy, some want no part of it, and some would hypothetically LIKE to develop more skills but are currently too busy. A few individuals of both genders are hard core about homesteading/living off grid. One of our male friends inherited an entire fully stocked workshop from his father and is very into home repair/construction. One of our female friends has her own welding workshop, which I don't think her boyfriend uses, and she makes field equipment for herself and others. Slightly more men than women seem to be into work-shopping in general, but it isn't a terribly common interest.

Working out/health consciousness is highly variable, including hitting the weight room. More of the women make an effort to eat well...the men tend to dismiss this until they get older and have health or weight issues (probably similar to the general population). A few are vegetarian, mostly for ethical reasons. Fad diets aren't that common, though a few are doing the paleo thing.

Most of the younger men and women are far more focused on being fit for field work than looking hot, so if they don't have access to actual outdoor fitness options, some will hit the gym. A few of them regularly run for exercise, and that seems equally split across genders, as does gym attendance. I don't know of any 'gym' rats, though.  Most of the older people have 'let themselves go' somewhat as they've aged or transitioned more to desk work, with some notable exceptions (DH is a badass) who make it a point of pride to stay fit. Those exceptions definitely hit the gym, with the goal to maintain strength and muscle as they age. Many of our group (both genders) have dabbled in yoga. There are only a handful of fullblown health/fitness nuts, a couple of each gender.

Interest in money/finance: Most of the younger people don't know/don't care/are just scraping by making ends meet. With the older people, the women usually manage the money OR the couples do it jointly. Men don't typically manage the personal finances for a couple, though the few stock dabblers that I know of in our group are all men. Of the divorced men or bachelors, my impression is most of them are kind of clueless about it.  There is a tendency for the women to worry about it more and talk more about learning how to handle personal finances better.  So either the men don't care as much, or they talk about it less.

Re: hunting and guns...Most men in my circle grew up rural, hunting, and so are familiar with guns. However, a lot of the women hunt as well. Keep in mind that your assumption about killing for 'sport' isn't exactly representative here...while most hunters of my circle enjoy the challenge of the hunt and the skills they learn from it, the goal is to take home FOOD, not a trophy. But again, these are mostly people who work in biology and have no desire to kill animals just for the hell of it. Fishing is a passionate hobby for a few, and an occasional activity for most of the rest.

A few of the men and a bare handful of the women are into hand guns or range shooting, but most own and use functional hunting weapons. About half the group favors stricter gun laws, despite the fact that most of them own guns. Slightly more of the women favor stricter gun laws than the men. Interestingly, military service/law enforcement experience does not seem to correlate with more right-leaning/gun-rights in our group.

Most of both genders are big into reading (nonfiction seems to have a slight male-bias, and literary fiction a slight female bias, with equal representation for genre fiction). Social events often involve board games...with no gender split (slightly more women actively dislike board games in our group, but it isn't notable).  Topics of discussion range wildly over philosophy, economics, politics, and sociology, books, tv, movies, music, playing of traditional instruments, cooking/food, travel, and lots and lots shop-talk and bitching about work problems in common. 

Finally, re: clothes and suits (or fancy dresses)...HA! Our tribe is notorious for practical, casual, unstylish dressing, to the point that the handful of people in our circle who actually feel comfortable in dressier clothes and understand how to shop for them are in high demand for guidance or are viewed as 'specially skilled' by the others. More of the younger women spend more time on their clothes and appearance, but functionality is generally held in much higher esteem than looking sharp. Most of both genders have strong opinions about outdoor gear and clothes, but feel intimidated in the dressier areas of department stores.

The only topic of conversation that I can think of (besides the rare hair/makeup/beauty product talk among the girls) that remains quite gendered? Interior decorating LOL! That's definitely a 'girly' thing, though the men will weigh in on housing styles, structure.
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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2016, 11:14:49 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2016, 03:02:34 AM »
I can relate to the original post. I don't watch sports, play video games, or drink so I don't often have much common ground for conversation with coworkers or guys I meet at parties. It can be hard to make friends or enjoy conversations when people only seem to want to talk about things you don't actually care about :(

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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2016, 07:35:23 AM »
Any kindred spirits on the boards?

Plenty.

Try growing up in Texas when you don't enjoy hunting, beer, football or trucks.
I don't have any distain for those things, they're just not for me.

But, if I can find people here that share my interests (or lack of interests) then it must be possible anywhere.


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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2016, 07:59:25 AM »
I'm guessing this isn't so much stereotypical "guy" interests as it is stereotypical city guy vs rural guy - at least in regards to alcohol/guns/tools/hunting/cars. I find people with less to do (rural) are more interested in these things than their city-dwelling counterparts.
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2016, 07:59:46 AM »
OP, you forgot sports, both watchng and doing. DH has no interest in sports.

He IS Mr. Fixit, however. He can fix anything, That has been one of three things propelling us to FIRE.

We both like cars.

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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2016, 06:40:37 PM »
Can I join this club?

For starters, I'm a professional flower grower- seriously- and enjoy gardening. (to answer the question I know at least some of you are thinking, yes I AM straight.) I'm not into sports much, with the exception of football- I'm in a fantasy league w/ some guys at work, which keeps me from having my Man Card taken away permanently- but rarely sit down and watch the games.

I never understood the fascination w/ guns, trucks or motorcycles. I drive a 5 year old Hyundai, though I confess a love for old American cars.

And while I have a decent collection of tools and can do simple repairs, I usually hesitate, since I tend to just eff things up. Case in point: last winter I took the cellar door off to install a cat door. Which I did. In the top of the door.

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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2016, 08:39:31 PM »
Can I join this club?

For starters, I'm a professional flower grower- seriously- and enjoy gardening
Professional flower grower? Do you hybridize anything?
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No hybridizing- just cultivating existing varieties.

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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2016, 10:16:22 PM »
Any kindred spirits on the boards?

Plenty.

Try growing up in Texas when you don't enjoy hunting, beer, football or trucks.
I don't have any distain for those things, they're just not for me.

But, if I can find people here that share my interests (or lack of interests) then it must be possible anywhere.
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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2016, 12:12:02 AM »
I find myself disliking most traditional "guy" interests. For example:

  • I don't know much about tools and I own only the very most basic ones (hammer, screwdrivers, drill, ratchet/socket set)
  • I would never want to go hunting. I don't see the thrill of killing an animal for sport. I just don't get it. I've went fishing like twice and disliked even that.
  • I don't drink much alcohol. Once in a while, I'll have a beer or a glass of wine.
  • I don't own a gun or really have much desire to own one. I've fired a gun once in my life, and that was just during testing so I could get a conceal carry license when I was a prosecutor.
  • Muscle cars and/or exotic cars do nothing for me. I'm fine driving my old Jeep.
I second numbers 1, 2 (although I do enjoy target shooting occasionally). I do like good beer and can distinguish between different ones. Cars are tools for transporting persons and materials from A to B. Beyond that, I could not care less about them. I'm also not interested in owning a gun, but I can see how it might be different, depending on where I lived. But even then, I would still see it as a tool, not something to obsess about (much like I see cars).

I am slightly sports-obsessed (playing, not so much watching).

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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2016, 01:52:28 AM »
I'm not too into most of that stuff.

Though I do love to drive, fast/fun cars definitely put some lead in my pencil lol.

Hell, it wasn't till I started dating my current SO that I got into some sports. She taught me that there was a separate offensive and defensive line in football at the age of 24 =D 

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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2016, 06:34:47 AM »
DH is the same. The only so called guy things he really likes are tools (he enjoys trying to fix things himself where he can - to save money and to learn something) and gadgets (expected - he is a computer engineer). He has zero interest in alcohol, sports, or cars (he's fine with any cheap beater that gets him from Point A to Point B).

I don't think this is just a guy thing. A lot of us women aren't really interested in many of the traditional stereotypical "girl things" that our friends are or that society says we are suppose to be interested in, nd often get ridiculed for it. Even worse if we like to do more stereotypically traditionally male things.  I personally hate assigning gender to any activity, interest or thing and just feel humans should be able to participate (or not) in whatever activities they like without having their masculinity or femininity be questioned or even be an issue at all.

I am much that way too. I am a tech geek, reader/writer, and gamer. I've never cared about makeup, hair, clothes, shopping in general, or children. The only "girl" hobby I have right now is cooking. Though, honestly, I don't know why cooking is considered gendered by some people. Everyone needs to eat.

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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2016, 03:04:50 PM »
I do think it's worth distinguishing between hunting and gun ownership as it was traditionally practiced and what passes for "gun culture" now.

Historically, gun ownership and hunting was something that passes the sniff test of a frugal and ethical hobby. You own a rifle and a shotgun, and you go out in August, sight the rifle in, and then fill the freezer in the fall, for the cost of your in-state tag and 10 bucks in ammo (plus the cost of butchering and freezing, which might be non-trivial depending on how you do it). But it's good protein for all winter and it came from an animal that lived a decent existence. This is the kind of gun and hunting culture in which I learned to shoot.

I really have trouble relating to people who drop big coin on gun collections or ripping through a bunch of semi-auto or full-auto ammo. To me, the gun is a tool and the tool's purpose is to put meat in the freezer. I take some pride in my proficiency with it, but it isn't different from my proficiency with a wrench or a Windows laptop.

You nailed it Ghostsaver. Thanks. I like to target shoot every once in a while. I don't hunt b/c I don't need to but I've eaten some great venison along the way. To me shooting a deer when I don't need to would feel like shooting a dog. I love guns for their craftsmanship and engineering but I don't wrap my identity up in them and I certainly don't wrap my politics up in them.

I don't watch games on TV. It just doesn't hold my attention. If I'm at a social gathering, I enjoy the company more than the game but I'm a good sport about it. At home I want to be doing something else. I don't follow any teams. That said I've seen a few good minutes of various games in my time that were genuinely exciting. I'm more of a fan of the fitness challenges than a games watcher. All games in person are better than on TV.

I do love fiddling around in the garage. I appreciate craftsmanship and quality in any kind of project. Fixing, making, upgrading, restoring of machines, vehicles, carpentry, etc. is where its at for me. Satisfies my imaginary OCD.

I'm not here to prove the quality or volume of my testosterone. I did six years in the military. That was enough testosterone.

Show me what you can do. I'm more impressed by the guy that spends hours learning a craft or to play an instrument or the American Ninja guy who trains hours each day than the guy that is the loudest dude on the block. And what a person can buy doesn't carry much weight with me either.

I want to paddle the river. Take a hike. Fix something. Build something. Read something interesting. Watch a good movie. Bounce down a mtn trail on a bicycle. Wash the family car. Play with the kids, play with the dog. Smooch on my wife. Laugh about something. Have a glass of something tasty.
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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2016, 04:38:59 PM »
I very much enjoy some of the things listed but I'm not really sure they are just guy things.

Tools to many to list probably 30K+ in tool  but its also my trade and supports my life using them. 

I very much enjoy firearms but have never hunted, I like the sporting competitive side of shooting, but as of late haven't been competing much do to wanting to save more and it takes a lot of time traveling to ranges to compete. But a number of females will out shoot me and are way more dedicated than I will ever be.

I don't drink much, stomach doesn't like it.

Don't follow sports I might watch a game here and there but I won't schedule time to watch.

Cars, I used to really like having a sports car or really nice car but im over it for now. But my life does revolve around Cars/Trucks do to my trade so I drive 100's if not into 1000's of cars/trucks a year. So i get my fix but just don't have to pay for them.

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« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2016, 07:27:14 AM »
Finally, I found a community!  I am not alone.

I just started a new job and one of the first things my co-workers asked me on a conference call (I am in medical sales and work remotely) was which team I root for, which sports I watch, etc... I have no interest in sports but feel like I need to minimize this or make excuses for this like "I have two little kids, I don't have much time to watch sports", etc...

The men in my wife's family politely keep their distance because they're incapable of having a real conversation about anything other than sports.  The only thing they have in common to discuss with each other at family events is sports.  This is what the conversation sounds like to me: 

Guy #1:  "Hey, did you see those sports last night?"
Guy #2:  "Oh man, you betcha.  Did you see that sports play that the sports guy made in the final quarter?"
Guy #1:  "Yah, that sports was insane.  I think they have the best team in sports right now.  They're definitely doing to win the sports championship this year".
Guy #2:  "Absolutely.  I love sports.  It's so sportsy.  SPOORTS!".
Guy #1:  "Sports!".

I have always loved to play sports (baseball, basketball, lacrosse, track & field) and enjoy the experience of going to a live event once in awhile (Red Sox, Fenway Park).  I guess I just want my connection to others to be deeper than "My team is better than your team.  Yuck-yuck, rib-rib".  I suppose that this has limited my social life somewhat but it's ok.

Things I like:  International travel, investing, coins, museums, history, going to the beach, hiking, kayaking, basically outdoors stuff where I can be active.


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« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2016, 08:22:06 AM »
Guy #1:  "Hey, did you see those sports last night?"
Guy #2:  "Oh man, you betcha.  Did you see that sports play that the sports guy made in the final quarter?"
Guy #1:  "Yah, that sports was insane.  I think they have the best team in sports right now.  They're definitely doing to win the sports championship this year".
Guy #2:  "Absolutely.  I love sports.  It's so sportsy.  SPOORTS!".
Guy #1:  "Sports!".

You need a shirt I saw recently that said "I don't do Sportsball" with a big X over a bunch of different sports equipment

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« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2016, 08:45:39 AM »
Finally, I found a community!  I am not alone.

I just started a new job and one of the first things my co-workers asked me on a conference call (I am in medical sales and work remotely) was which team I root for, which sports I watch, etc... I have no interest in sports but feel like I need to minimize this or make excuses for this like "I have two little kids, I don't have much time to watch sports", etc...

The men in my wife's family politely keep their distance because they're incapable of having a real conversation about anything other than sports.  The only thing they have in common to discuss with each other at family events is sports.  This is what the conversation sounds like to me: 

Guy #1:  "Hey, did you see those sports last night?"
Guy #2:  "Oh man, you betcha.  Did you see that sports play that the sports guy made in the final quarter?"
Guy #1:  "Yah, that sports was insane.  I think they have the best team in sports right now.  They're definitely doing to win the sports championship this year".
Guy #2:  "Absolutely.  I love sports.  It's so sportsy.  SPOORTS!".
Guy #1:  "Sports!".

I have always loved to play sports (baseball, basketball, lacrosse, track & field) and enjoy the experience of going to a live event once in awhile (Red Sox, Fenway Park).  I guess I just want my connection to others to be deeper than "My team is better than your team.  Yuck-yuck, rib-rib".  I suppose that this has limited my social life somewhat but it's ok.

Things I like:  International travel, investing, coins, museums, history, going to the beach, hiking, kayaking, basically outdoors stuff where I can be active.

You nailed it. I've always had trouble with the guys who spend a big part of their time watching sports. I just don't have anything to relate about. If I do it right - sometimes I can get them talking and just let them roll for a while. A one sided conversation and it gets it out of their system so to speak. ;) I still learn something.

I was at a dinner party one time and this guy walks up and asks if I played golf. I don't. I tried to get him to talk about it and he just walked off in mid-sentence... ???

Other topics can be like this. Politics this year can be like that. The other person is consumed by the election. Just get them talking and let them talk for a while. The only problem is I have discovered a few people I thought I knew were pretty extreme in their viewpoints and not nearly as friendly like Mr. Rogers (PBS) as I thought they were. That can be disturbing.

Heaven is meeting up with someone and having them tell me: "Let me show you my little project..." And then he proceeds to show you his 1:1 scale replica of the Titanic that he's building in the backyard... Or their photography or their musical instrument or cabinetry. I always walk away having learned something and I like to learn.

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« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2016, 09:59:41 AM »
Finally, I found a community!  I am not alone.

I just started a new job and one of the first things my co-workers asked me on a conference call (I am in medical sales and work remotely) was which team I root for, which sports I watch, etc... I have no interest in sports but feel like I need to minimize this or make excuses for this like "I have two little kids, I don't have much time to watch sports", etc...

The men in my wife's family politely keep their distance because they're incapable of having a real conversation about anything other than sports.  The only thing they have in common to discuss with each other at family events is sports.  This is what the conversation sounds like to me: 

Guy #1:  "Hey, did you see those sports last night?"
Guy #2:  "Oh man, you betcha.  Did you see that sports play that the sports guy made in the final quarter?"
Guy #1:  "Yah, that sports was insane.  I think they have the best team in sports right now.  They're definitely doing to win the sports championship this year".
Guy #2:  "Absolutely.  I love sports.  It's so sportsy.  SPOORTS!".
Guy #1:  "Sports!".

I have always loved to play sports (baseball, basketball, lacrosse, track & field) and enjoy the experience of going to a live event once in awhile (Red Sox, Fenway Park).  I guess I just want my connection to others to be deeper than "My team is better than your team.  Yuck-yuck, rib-rib".  I suppose that this has limited my social life somewhat but it's ok.

Things I like:  International travel, investing, coins, museums, history, going to the beach, hiking, kayaking, basically outdoors stuff where I can be active.

Relevant: https://xkcd.com/1593/

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« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2016, 11:07:06 AM »
25 year old dude here.

Guy stereotypes and how they apply to me:

Sports: zero interest
Guns: zero interest
Fishing: zero interest
Alcohol: fun with friends or family once in a while, as in about 0-2x/year

Cars are a mixed bag.  I vastly prefer a manual transmission, but have no interest in fast, nice, or fancy cars.  I know a decent amount about cars, but only in the context of repairs/maintenance, not performance.  I like knowing how things work and are put together so I do all my own work.  I'd definitely go without a car completely if it fit my lifestyle.

Tools: I have what's necessary and buy it as I need it, renting if it makes sense.  I don't fetishize tools or buy stupid tools.

Gadgetry/tech: I'm a "tech guy" and up on it and know how most of it works, but I don't buy dumb stuff every year or even close to every year.  I can name every generation of Intel's CPUs in the past ten years but I couldn't tell you the first thing about a smart watch.  I upgrade, maintain, and repair my own stuff.
Home repairs: Yup, DIY.
Woodworking: Interested in the idea of it, and find it interesting, but haven't done it at all myself.
Weightlifting: Yup, rack, barbell, and plates in my garage.
Sex: Yes.
Bacon and eggs: Yes.
I-know-where-I'm-going-don't-turn-on-the-damn-GPS: Yes.
Yes-I-know-I-said-that-before-but-look-we're-almost-there: Yes.