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An online test of common sense
« on: October 02, 2024, 11:17:13 AM »
Common sense is not so common anymore?
This was fun!
The math questions were the kind of "dumb math" I can figure out
I swear when I read some of the math problems they give to kids today I don't understand wth they're asking.

https://commonsense.seas.upenn.edu/

I scored 97/100; no pressure, people!

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2024, 01:12:23 PM »
I got 78/100… the breakdown was interesting: 60/100 on answering similar to other people, but 87/100 on predicting what other people would answer. I have no chance at guessing what facial expressions mean when seeing just their eyes, as I pretty much avoid looking at eyes most of the time due to social anxiety.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2024, 08:05:24 PM »
46 out of 100.

80% at predicting what others would say.

I don’t think that proverbs are common sense. “Every rose has its thorns” may be a common expression, but not every rose in fact has thorns, nor does everything beautiful have a flaws. A watched pot does actually boil, etc.

So I said I didn’t believe all of the proverbs were common sense, but predicted that most people would say they were.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2024, 07:57:51 AM »
47 out of 100.

80% at predicting what other’s would think.

I have very little common sense! but I understand that other’s have more? Hrm.

But yeah, like @cpa cat said, I don’t think all the idioms are correct, but I understand that many do find them to be common sense.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2024, 08:14:54 AM »
I got 60 overall. Low common sense (53% similar to others) and better but not that good at rating what others think (only 67%)

I think I am pretty literal in my interpretation of these kinds of statements, and tend to assume that others will not be.  I'd be interested to know whether the ones I misestimated for others were ones where I thought they would be less literal than I am but actually are not, or the ones I thought were genuinely common sense and most people would agree with me, and it turns out they do not!

It will be interesting to see the overall research results - I guess that "common" sense might turn out not to be very common after all!

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2024, 10:07:10 AM »
What’s funny about this test is one of the questions was something like “Being literal in language brings clarity” and I agreed and thought that was common sense.

If I applied that to this test, then the common sense statements might be more like:

“You should be careful when picking roses, because they have thorns”
“Beautiful things often have flaws”
“There is usually a downside to good things”
“Watching a pot of water does not make it boil faster”

Then all of the sudden, we’d all have common sense and all agree on it. Phrasing drastically changes the results of this test, and it makes me wonder about the validity of their design.

I also thought every answer was “something I have learned.” Isn’t that true of all knowledge, including common sense? I didn’t pop out of my mother’s womb thinking that every rose has thorns or knowing how to boil water.

So is this test really testing common sense, or is it testing how literally I interpret language when taking a test? It doesn’t even test if I understand idioms. I have used the phrase “A watched pot never boils” in casual conversation recently, to convey to someone that monitoring something wouldn’t make it move faster, and we both understood what I meant. What did we prove? That we had a shared understanding of language and the meaning of an idiom, but not whether or not we had enough common sense to look both ways before crossing the street, or to shut our windows when it’s raining.
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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2024, 11:50:30 AM »
80% as well.  I think there's a conspiracy.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2024, 11:57:50 AM »
53% on my answers, 87% on guessing others' answers.

I didn't get any of these proverbs y'all are talking about... I got a lot of modestly well-known facts like "Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel ceiling." I don't consider that to be common sense. It's just a piece of trivia you do or don't know.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2024, 12:01:45 PM »
I only made it through a couple of statements. Thanks for the reminder of how much I hate this kind of multiple choice question. None of it felt like common sense, but rather how well you have internalized idiomatic expressions. Sounds like there are groups of questions? Wonder who is the control group?

Interestingly, I generally thought it was obvious, rather than learned...

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2024, 12:04:14 PM »
So is this test really testing common sense, or is it testing how literally I interpret language when taking a test?

Yeah I struggled because I kept thinking, are you asking me if this is literally correct, or if the metaphor can always be applied to real life. (And the answer is usually no for most "common sense" phrases, because everything has exceptions and life is messy!)

I got 57%.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2024, 12:05:02 PM »
53% on my answers, 87% on guessing others' answers.

I missed where it told you that breakdown and now I can't get back to it without re-taking it. Ugh. I have no common sense.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2024, 12:21:53 PM »
72 / 100

60% similar
87% accurate to others

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2024, 02:17:25 PM »
So is this test really testing common sense, or is it testing how literally I interpret language when taking a test?

Yeah I struggled because I kept thinking, are you asking me if this is literally correct, or if the metaphor can always be applied to real life. (And the answer is usually no for most "common sense" phrases, because everything has exceptions and life is messy!)

I got 57%.

Ohhh... Well the one I remember clearly is "a fair weather friend is unreliable." Well, yes, that is basically the meaning of the phrase, but I know some folks just don't have the bandwidth so I can rely on them to disappear in the tough times...

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2024, 03:06:19 PM »
I only made it through a couple of statements. Thanks for the reminder of how much I hate this kind of multiple choice question. None of it felt like common sense, but rather how well you have internalized idiomatic expressions. Sounds like there are groups of questions? Wonder who is the control group?

Interestingly, I generally thought it was obvious, rather than learned...
I put learned for almost everything because things like celebrating birthdays or shaking hands are only obvious if you live in a culture that does them. I didn't know how to answer "Santa Claus delivers presents" because I learned it then unlearned it.

Seems like a lot of people got different questions than I did.

There's a mental status exam where you have to ask if a stone floats on water and I hate that question because pumice stones float.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2024, 03:08:24 PM by Morning Glory »

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2024, 03:10:34 PM »
I got 'Every rose has it's thorn' . . . and it really bugged me because as a kid we had a rose bush that didn't have thorns.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2024, 03:11:32 PM »
I got 'Every rose has it's thorn' . . . and it really bugged me because as a kid we had a rose bush that didn't have thorns.

There are probably cowboys that never sing, sadly or otherwise.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2024, 03:30:55 PM »


77%, with 73% similar beliefs and 80% accuracy about what others think. 

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2024, 03:37:30 PM »


77%, with 73% similar beliefs and 80% accuracy about what others think.

You have better understanding of what other people think than actual common sense!

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2024, 05:11:55 PM »
What’s funny about this test is one of the questions was something like “Being literal in language brings clarity” and I agreed and thought that was common sense.

If I applied that to this test, then the common sense statements might be more like:

“You should be careful when picking roses, because they have thorns”
“Beautiful things often have flaws”
“There is usually a downside to good things”
“Watching a pot of water does not make it boil faster”

Then all of the sudden, we’d all have common sense and all agree on it. Phrasing drastically changes the results of this test, and it makes me wonder about the validity of their design.

I also thought every answer was “something I have learned.” Isn’t that true of all knowledge, including common sense? I didn’t pop out of my mother’s womb thinking that every rose has thorns or knowing how to boil water.

So is this test really testing common sense, or is it testing how literally I interpret language when taking a test? It doesn’t even test if I understand idioms. I have used the phrase “A watched pot never boils” in casual conversation recently, to convey to someone that monitoring something wouldn’t make it move faster, and we both understood what I meant. What did we prove? That we had a shared understanding of language and the meaning of an idiom, but not whether or not we had enough common sense to look both ways before crossing the street, or to shut our windows when it’s raining.

I think it's not really a test of common sense, because who is the arbiter of common sense?
It's more of a test of how closely one's ideas about what is common sense are shared by others.

I think my "cheat code" for getting 97 might be that for nearly every answer I chose, on the follow up question as to why I chose that answer I chose "because it is obvious", and I also, nearly every time, chose that others would find it obvious as well.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2024, 05:18:29 PM »


77%, with 73% similar beliefs and 80% accuracy about what others think.

You have better understanding of what other people think than actual common sense!

I'm curious (but not curious enough to have supplied me email) which ones I got "wrong" as far as having common sense.  I disagreed with every rose having a thorn, for example, because I think sometimes things can be all good, with no catch or downside.  It's not often, but it does happen.  So does that mean I got that one wrong, as far as judging my common sense?

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2024, 05:49:16 PM »
What’s funny about this test is one of the questions was something like “Being literal in language brings clarity” and I agreed and thought that was common sense.
I think this may have been more like 'using the precise word brings clarity', which stopped me in my tracks. I disagreed with it because many people don't have a large vocabulary, and the precise word is often less known. It was interesting seeing all the statements and realising just how many were not necessarily true, and that I've been guilty of saying!

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2024, 06:49:11 PM »
I don't know whether I have much common sense, but I sensed that I wasn't interested in the format.  I closed it on the first page. 


I guess I'll never recieve my score. 

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2024, 06:50:27 PM »
I got 78/100… the breakdown was interesting: 60/100 on answering similar to other people, but 87/100 on predicting what other people would answer. I have no chance at guessing what facial expressions mean when seeing just their eyes, as I pretty much avoid looking at eyes most of the time due to social anxiety.

That is EXACTLY the score I got. I read a lot of forums and therefore think I have somewhat of a pulse on what others think.

I am TERRIBLE at math and could not answer at least 3 of those of those questions, and I believe (my opinion! Haha) that the average Joe is better at those word math problems than I am.

I assume I did decently ,on the exercise of reading those facial expressions, but who really knows?

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Re: An online test of common sense
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77%, with 73% similar beliefs and 80% accuracy about what others think.

You have better understanding of what other people think than actual common sense!

I'm curious (but not curious enough to have supplied me email) which ones I got "wrong" as far as having common sense.  I disagreed with every rose having a thorn, for example, because I think sometimes things can be all good, with no catch or downside.  It's not often, but it does happen.  So does that mean I got that one wrong, as far as judging my common sense?

Oh honey, send me your all good sitch and I will find a downside!

Haha.

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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2024, 06:54:34 PM »
72 / 100

60% similar
87% accurate to others
Another one like my break down of numbers!.
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Re: An online test of common sense
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2024, 08:01:33 PM »


77%, with 73% similar beliefs and 80% accuracy about what others think.

You have better understanding of what other people think than actual common sense!

I'm curious (but not curious enough to have supplied me email) which ones I got "wrong" as far as having common sense.  I disagreed with every rose having a thorn, for example, because I think sometimes things can be all good, with no catch or downside.  It's not often, but it does happen.  So does that mean I got that one wrong, as far as judging my common sense?

Oh honey, send me your all good sitch and I will find a downside!

Haha.

I've always thought of that phrase as a slightly archaic thought terminating cliche for talking  people into staying in relationships with red flags, or just generally getting them to shut up when they are venting about their partner. If there are other usages (besides the song) I am unaware.

 

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