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noexcuses227

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Wanted: Help with website
« on: March 10, 2016, 08:05:25 PM »
I am helping a relative set up a website to sell outdoor furniture online. He has a viable business selling locally, and is looking to expand.

I set up a wordpress site and an ETSY site by myself. I am now realizing that there is way more to e-commerce than building a basic website and hoping people stumble across it.  I need help driving traffic to the site and possibly improving the site.


www.kmountainwoodcraft.com

Take a look at the raw product and let me know what we can do together.   
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Re: Wanted: Help with website
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 08:45:23 PM »
I've heard good things about squarespace. It is a good option for non-technical people, and can easily get you set up to take orders online (which is what it sounds like what you want). I think there are also wordpress plugins and whatnot, but I've never used them so can't speak to how easy they are to use or how good they are.

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Re: Wanted: Help with website
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2016, 03:10:45 AM »
Thanks letired, will check them out.

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Re: Wanted: Help with website
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2016, 03:29:03 AM »
I wouldn't switch to SquareSpace, stick with your Wordpress site and install the Yoast SEO plugin.  And do online research on SEO for how to optimize your keywords and get quality backlinks-- the latter is what really gets you better placement on Google.  I've found some very interesting concepts on backlinko.com.

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Re: Wanted: Help with website
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2016, 05:19:37 AM »
Thanks for your reply. Are you interested in helping out? If so let me know what fair compensation would be. Would love to have some one help me and get paid as we make the sales. Sell a chair get a cut of the sale. 

Am I asking for something crazy? Is it better to pay someone upfront?

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Re: Wanted: Help with website
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2016, 08:13:18 PM »
Thanks for your reply. Are you interested in helping out? If so let me know what fair compensation would be. Would love to have some one help me and get paid as we make the sales. Sell a chair get a cut of the sale. 

Am I asking for something crazy? Is it better to pay someone upfront?

When I had a wedding photography business, I learned quite a lot about SEO on my own and was our group's local expert.  You can easily do your own research regarding SEO and keywords.  Getting quality backlinks is a trickier thing (quality measured by Google Pagerank-- you do NOT want to get linkbacks from spammy sites, which is an indicator that your own site is spammy).  There is no shortage of people out there who may find you out of the blue and try to sell you SEO improvement packages, but there are no guarantees, and many of these are just a waste of money.  If you talk to Yoast or the BacklinkO guy, it would probably be thousands, but it might be a worthwhile investment if your relative is serious (as I said before, BacklinkO has some very interesting ideas and is worth checking out).  It is really tough to compete for those top spots on Google!

Since your relative is successful locally, any way he can get backlinks from other businesses he has sold to?  That would be a great way to get started.  Also do a Google search for successful similar business and take a look at their site structures and keywords, both in the page titles and in the posts.  Also, you have to be patient, as results can take months and even years as Google develops trust in your site.  You have to plan for the long haul.

If you want SEO optimization help for the site itself (but you guys will have to do the work in getting backlinks, that is the best way to improve your Google ranking), I might be able to help, although in general I'm trying to simplify my life :)  PM me if you're interested and we can discuss the scope of the work and compensation, and I can also send you a couple of sites that I currently run for myself and a friend.  Happy to discuss more ideas for getting quality backlinks, too.  As long as this doesn't take up all my time, I actually enjoy this kind of stuff :)

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Re: Wanted: Help with website
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2016, 04:15:45 AM »
Thanks so much for the reply.  I am still trying to figure out what direction I want to go with.  Learn it myself vs farm everything out.

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Re: Wanted: Help with website
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2016, 07:08:36 AM »
I am helping a relative set up a website to sell outdoor furniture online. He has a viable business selling locally, and is looking to expand.

I set up a wordpress site and an ETSY site by myself. I am now realizing that there is way more to e-commerce than building a basic website and hoping people stumble across it.  I need help driving traffic to the site and possibly improving the site.


www.kmountainwoodcraft.com

Take a look at the raw product and let me know what we can do together.
Check out the website mywifequitherjob.com   He's got this down to a science!

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Re: Wanted: Help with website
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2016, 08:15:50 AM »
I have been a full time web developer for many years and run a side business with my husband helping small businesses (mostly artists) with their websites,  so here is my .02. 

I would NOT move to squarespace and I would keep your current wordpress set up and improve the integration of the shopping cart into the site.  Etsy is great and all, but it seems a little 'artisan and home-grown'.   Maybe that is the image you want to project?  If so, I would integrate into the site better.  For example, it is not obvious that the chairs are for sale unless you hit the hamburger menu and then choose and have to click through a couple of links.  I would have a menu item visible "purchase here" or "online store" or something.  In addition, you could put buttons on the homepage under the photos with a call to action - "click to purchase" with the links going directly to etsy.

Another route, which I would recommend is to use a wordpress plugin (woocommerce) to have the shopping cart integrated on your site.  (the visitor doesn't need to leave and go to a third party (etsy) to purchase). woocommerce is free and the easiest set up allows payment via paypal or check.  I would imagine that some consideration would need to go into shipping rates since the items are big and heavy and you may need to purchase a plugin to calculate the price like etsy does.  <$100.00

The search engine stuff is complicated and Meowmalade gave you some good advice.  The business owner may want to try a small amount of facebook advertising if he wants to throw some money at it.

Feel free to get in touch if you want a price to set up the woocommerce piece or talk over the site.  I was going to put a link to my business, but don't want to give a shameless plug.
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Re: Wanted: Help with website
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2016, 07:51:55 AM »
Looks like he does some pretty good work. I like the pics of his products.

Does he have his own hosting? If not I would highly suggest he gets it. I use Hostgator for just $9.95/month (since 2006) and have unlimited domains, meaning I can add as many separate domains as I want for the very same price. Their up time is excellent.

Having your own hosting means no one else has control over your site. I don't let anyone have control of my business.

I would definitely get connected with PayPal, where he can create payment buttons (either Add to Cart or Buy Now). Creating the buttons is easy on PayPal's site, then you copy the button code they provide and paste it into the source code of the page. The buyer can even provide their shipping information. There are probably other payment sites that charge less per transaction than PayPal but I stick with PayPal simply for the name recognition. Millions of people trust PayPal, have used it many times and don't question that their transaction information will be safe. 

For ideas about site appearance I would suggest you check out the competition. Google search to find the competing sites and take a look at their layout, size of images, placement of description and payment buttons, shipping charges, etc. That will give you a better idea of how you might want the site to look. Click on the Source code and that will tell you the image sizes used.

Getting traffic does not need to be difficult nor expensive.

Article writing used to be a good way to get traffic but that is not as effective as it once was.

YouTube is a good way to get traffic. Make simple videos and post them to YouTube. People love videos because they can see it in action and can listen to someone telling them about the products. Keep the length to a couple minutes at most - people like short videos better. Annotations can be made in the video showing the url of your site so people can go to it.

When uploading the video to YouTube you will find a Description field. The very first thing to type in that field is the full domain name, http://www. kmountainwoodcraft.com Doing that will make the domain name a clickable link that will appear right below the video window and the person in the video can tell viewers to 'click on the link right below this video.' (You need to tell people what you want them to do or they won't do it.)

Now, I would have selected a different domain name. A domain name should, as yours does, describe what the site is about. But it also needs to include keywords that people will type when they do an online search. 'Mountain woodcraft' might be something some people will type when doing a search but I would think they would be more apt to type keywords such as 'outdoor furniture', 'patio furniture', 'cedar furniture', 'cedar gliders', words that are more descriptive of the products themselves.

The reason I mention this is Google search engine results. Most people who do an online search only look at the first couple of pages of search engine results - that's where you want your site listed, on page 1, not on page 1,838 where no one will see it.

(While on the subject of domain names and the keywords in them, I would keep the current domain name. To take advantage of the different main keywords listed above, register additional domain names that include those keywords, such as mountaincedargliders.com or mountainoutdoorfurniture.com and simply set them to redirect traffic to mountainwoodcraft.com.  You would set them at the domain registrar. That way, when someone does a Google search and types 'cedar gliders', chances are good they will see mountaincedargliders.com listed in search engine results pages. When they click on it they are automatically and instantly redirected to mountainwoodcraft.com. See how that works? That allows you to take advantage of better keywords without dumping the mountainwoodcraft domain name and only costs about $15 a year each to renew them.)

There are little tricks that you can utilize to get your site listed closer to page one. Backlinks have already been mentioned in above posts but let me break it down a bit more for everyone, for better understanding.

A backlink is your url listed on another site. It is a link 'back' to your site from that other site.  People on the other site see it, click on it and come to your site. That's traffic.

We want quality more than quantity. A backlink from a site that only gets three visits a day is of little quality. A backlink from a site that gets 10,000 visits a day is much more valuable and that's something Google considers when deciding where to list your site in search engine results.

YouTube is owned by Google so a backlink from your video at YouTube will be seen as high quality. You Tube videos can move your site onto page one, where people will see it when they are seeking more information.

You can also move a YouTube video onto page one.

Let's say you want to get your main video onto page one of search engine results. How? Create backlinks for that video. Make more videos, show the url for your main video in them and direct the traffic to your main video.  The more backlinks pointing at your main video, the more Google will see it and list your main video closer to page one of search engine results.

Once you get your site listed on page one of search engine results, and especially when you get it to number one, two or three on page one for various main keywords, you will see an uptick in traffic and possibly sales.

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