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How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« on: April 05, 2022, 03:52:59 PM »
I recently read _How to Do Nothing_ by Jenny Odell. 

Actually, I read it twice.  The first time I was frustrated by it.  I can't put my finger on why, the message resonates, but perhaps at a different octave.  Or maybe the writing isn't what I'm used to consuming.  I read it again and came away with more.

If I had to sum my takeaway in a bumper sticker, it would be the subtitle "Resisting the Attention Economy".  In one long sentence, it would be to pay attention to "real" things, yourself, your thoughts, your neighbors, your history, your environment; and watch out for stuff that wants your attention like entertainment, social media, private spaces like malls and theme parks.

She writes a lot about the local community, and about "noticing" or "paying attention" to it.

Another thought I came away with was that without some discipline, it's really easy to fall into the entertainment world, and to ultimately be unsatisfied with your life.

There are a few Thoreau quotes.  They make me want to attempt Thoreau again.

Critique: I felt that the book was light on the "how" (despite the name), but does go into the "why" and the "what" very well.  But it could be said that the "how" would be different for each person.  I felt like it was a call to arms, more inspiration than implementation.     

I might post a few more of my observations from the chapters here.  And I'll be curious what others who read it have thought.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2022, 03:54:14 PM »
I picked this up because I was trying to read _World Enough & Time_, but haven't been able to force myself through it.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2022, 03:58:03 PM »
Notes from the Introduction

Resist!  Experience life.  1) Disengage from the virtual world and 2) engage with something else.  Something in time and space.

Look at the difference between "disruption" and "maintenance".  We need maintenance to live.  (My editorializing: and maintenance isn't cool.)

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2022, 03:54:59 AM »
I've been wanting to re-read How to be Idle. I should add this one to the TBR pile, too.

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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2022, 07:56:17 AM »
Notes from the Introduction

Resist!  Experience life.  1) Disengage from the virtual world and 2) engage with something else.  Something in time and space.

Look at the difference between "disruption" and "maintenance".  We need maintenance to live.  (My editorializing: and maintenance isn't cool.)

I agree.  Now that we're easing into a post-Covid pandemic and can more or less safely handle indoor events, I've started venturing back into our physical world.  Went to the Art Museum last weekend, and I'm going to a community meeting this a.m. where there will be a Continental breakfast and discussion of the homeless and what solutions are being offered. 
 
I appreciate the effort that people put into arranging and maintaining these live-and-in-person situations and I'm going to continue to support them with my money and my presence.  It already feels different than living in Zoom world.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2022, 08:27:02 AM »
I got about halfway through this book and haven't gone back to it.  I liked it, I remember she talks a lot about observing bird behavior from her porch/patio... but it's a little dense for me right now. But it's on the list to pick back up again.  It's very thought provoking and good, but its a book that I need to read slowly. (And then I had twins so, not a lot of brainpower for a book like this.)  Interested to hear more of your thoughts - I know a few people who have read it and liked it. Maybe this will inspire me to pick it back up!

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2022, 09:20:25 AM »
I've been wanting to re-read How to be Idle. I should add this one to the TBR pile, too.

Interesting!  I read a blurb about _How to be Idle_ and I'm not sure it's for me.  But maybe it is? 

I'd feel bad if I were truly idle, just consuming resources and not helping humanity in any way.  But I imagine that's not what the book is about?  _How to Do Nothing_ is also not really about doing "nothing", but not necessarily doing things that have immediate capitalistic returns, but instead looking at the holistic picture. 

Aside, somewhat related to the book: I'm not against capitalism!  Indeed, a good argument can be made that capitalism provides an increasing approximation of near-term goals that is hard to come by in other ways.  Unconstrained consumerism, is another thing.



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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2022, 09:26:38 AM »
I got about halfway through this book and haven't gone back to it.  I liked it, I remember she talks a lot about observing bird behavior from her porch/patio... but it's a little dense for me right now. But it's on the list to pick back up again.  It's very thought provoking and good, but its a book that I need to read slowly. (And then I had twins so, not a lot of brainpower for a book like this.)  Interested to hear more of your thoughts - I know a few people who have read it and liked it. Maybe this will inspire me to pick it back up!

Yeah, her talk about bird behavior is interesting.  It makes me want to go out and feed crows.

Twins - that's (literally) two handfuls!  I miss those days.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2022, 10:07:32 AM »
Notes from Chapter 1: The Case for Nothing

My favorite turn of phrase here: She used NOMO, meaning the necessity of missing out.  This is something I constantly engage with.  I've learned to "miss out" on consumerism.  But I have a harder time "missing out" on learning, trying to improve myself or things I create.  But there is space that we need to grow.  We all need time away, it begets creativity and perspective. 

Email and cell phones let us "work whenever" (and anywhere), but that turns into "work always" (and everywhere)!

She enjoys local parks.  She likes places where you can just go to relax.  Where you don't need to buy something to be there.  The return on this public good is great for society, but it's hard to measure.  (My editorial: She does mention that there are community volunteers in the park, but she doesn't mention that these places also need things like police enforcement.  When I was a young kid, drunk rowdy teens would sometimes take over part of the local leafy park and make the place unpleasant.)

She laments that self care has come to mean expensive bath salts.   She says this isn't self care, it's self indulgence.  She references the book _Glop_.  (ed: haven't read it)

She aims quite a bit of criticism at social media.  It's "freemium leisure".  It has waves of hysteria.  We think of ourselves and others as avatars.  Everything is chatter.  Thought and critique is referred to as banal and ridiculous.  These platforms don't encourage deep listening or understanding.

And, of course, she writes about feeding the crows from her balcony, and how comforting it feels.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2022, 11:29:52 AM »
This book is so intriguing. I started reading this in 2020 and, like Tig_, I only got about halfway through. I really liked a lot of the messaging around being in the world, bird watching, and community spaces like the rose garden. It is a hard read, though.

Great notes from chapter 1!

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2022, 10:24:34 AM »
Notes from chapter 2: Impossibly of Retreat

Essentially, going off to form your own community that espouses your work/life balance ideals doesn't work.  She gives examples
  • 1960s communes - tried to start from first principles, searching for the good life. All failed.  They found that they couldn't live outside of society, some people still had to work and there were many conflicts.  People got frustrated and left.
  • the garden school of Epicurus - practiced non-attachment, friendship, and relaxed contemplation but ultimately couldn't continue.
  • Eli Felix - had a digital detox camp, but it was missing a central tenant, to spend more time with your friends after the detox.  Instead it was subsumed by corporations with ways to become a better employee.

Instead, she suggest determining what you are running away from, and practicing "refusal in place".  You can step away periodically, but you can't stay away forever.  The world needs your participation.  Stand apart within society.

(ed: there are counter examples like monks, but what's happening there may not not be for everyone)

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2022, 12:29:43 PM »
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My favorite turn of phrase here: She used NOMO, meaning the necessity of missing out.  This is something I constantly engage with.  I've learned to "miss out" on consumerism.  But I have a harder time "missing out" on learning, trying to improve myself or things I create.  But there is space that we need to grow.  We all need time away, it begets creativity and perspective. 

Wow these notes are fantastic! I may or may not get around to reading the book but I love this Nomo phrase which I am
immediately adopting!

I too love to learn and am in combination recent FIRE detox/Passion project education phase. It’s useful for me to remember that when I take breaks I am solidifying the information that I’ve been absorbing. Because I am very goal and checklist driven, I am trying to get away from an emotional feeling of having to be working all the time on my “next phase” and instead understand that if I’m taking a break it’s because my brain and body need that break.


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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2022, 12:32:26 PM »
Oh I just had an insight! In athletic endeavors, rest is crucial for seeing gains. The same applies to creativity!

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2022, 02:23:56 PM »
Oh I just had an insight! In athletic endeavors, rest is crucial for seeing gains. The same applies to creativity!

Great analogy!

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2022, 11:26:32 AM »
Notes from chapter 3: Anatomy of a Refusal

This chapter is about how to remain in place without losing yourself.

She writes about some performance art - "The Trainee".  The artist was "working" at Deloitte and would very visibly not work.  People working there just couldn't understand why she would do this. It's a resistance to order.  She also writes about Diogenes - the greek philosopher who would very publicly defy common place traditions. 

Walden Two - a novel by B.F. Skinner - says that we can all be trained to be the perfect cogs in the works.  In this book there's one guy who creates a "perfect" city.  He preloads it with entertainment and work people will find satisfying (behavioral engineering).  And all the people there are indeed satisfied.  Except one guy, Bartleby, who says "I'd prefer not to".  He pushes back.  (ed: I don't remember Odell mentioning it, but Bartleby is eventually sent to prison and dies!  Sort of a cautionary tale.)

Odell says to assert your will against custom.

There's a great quote from Thoreau here:
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I went to the woods because I wish to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not when I came to die, discover that I had not lived.  I wanted to live deep and suck out all the marrow of life, to live so sturdily and spartan-like as to put to route all that was not life, to cut a broad swath and shave close, to drive life into a corner and reduce it to it's lowest terms.  And if it proved to be mean, why then to get the whole and genuine meanness of it and publish its meanness to the world.  And if it were sublime, then to know it by experience and be able to give a true account if it in my next excursion.
So Thoreau is saying he didn't want to blindly follow what society's rules.

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break the law if it causes injustice to someone else, be a counter friction to stop the machine, truth is dependent on perspective, you have to ascend to higher ground to get the full view, the ascent is hard
saying to, again, go against society if you see the bigger picture and know it must be done.  (ed: This needs to be taken with a grain of salt.  See positive and negative freedoms.) In any case, Thoreau went to jail and refused to pay a fine.  But in Thoreau's case, someone else paid the fine for him, so he was freed. 

Others aren't so lucky.  She points out that civil disobedience only works in a society that allows a level of latitude, of margin.  In our society, unions (used to) have laws protecting them, allowing workers to strike.  Administration provides support to professors and researchers to explore.  It used to be that college students were protected, but (referring to Stanford duck syndrome) students now no longer have the freedom to protest or experiment due to the burden of student loans, needing to find a job (harder with an arrest record), and competition.  Even the common worker is constantly pitted against the spot market, leading to a life of economic fear.  (ed: I certainly felt this!)

Without the protection, we get "repetitive injury of the spirt".

She says we shouldn't be man-machines, just blindly executing the law.  To be alive is to execute moral judgement.  But to see the correct moral judgement, we need to be attentive.  Inattentive people can't align.

She writes that quitting Facebook is fighting the battle on the wrong plain.  You can quit, but you don't have to social capital to stop Facebook and your quitting often gets misinterpreted as a political decision or holier than thou internet asceticism.  She argues for non-commercial social media. 

And that people who do have a margin in society should try to widen the margin for others.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2022, 07:05:50 PM »
Thanks for these detailed notes.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2022, 11:47:25 PM »
Thanks for these notes. (Though the irony of me passing time by causally reading them is not lost on me.)

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2022, 05:39:23 AM »
Thanks for these notes. (Though the irony of me passing time by causally reading them is not lost on me.)

Ha!

But that goes both ways.  Am I participating in some sort of social media-ish ego inflation by posting them here?  I'd like to think that this is a constructive project, a way to contribute my ideas, and maybe spark a discussion, but it's good to keep perspective.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2022, 06:02:05 AM »
Speaking of discussion, I have some mixed feelings about chapter 3. 

Part of what she's saying (and, for that matter, Thoreau and Diogenes were saying) is that breaking of norms is a good* - you should build your morals from first principles and break societal norms if they don't meet your own.  And certainly this can be used for good.  In the small, Mustachians are norm breakers (limiting consumerism, stepping away from the rat race).  And the 1960s civil rights movement was norm breaking in the large.

But, norm breaking can also cause havoc.  If everyone were to build up from first principles and break norms, you could have anarchy.  We saw politicians break norms until it built up to 1/6.  We also have to come up with some common understanding of society or we'll all suffer.

At present, I'm seeing this as a (at least) two dimensional range.  Norm breaking in the small to in the large on one axis.  And consequences from small to large on another.


* or, at least, I don't remember reading anything in the book saying that one should carefully consider if the consequences of breaking the norms are good are bad

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2022, 06:48:57 AM »
I think this book was the unwitting “victim” of the publisher giving it a very catchy title that captured the cultural zeitgeist more than Odell was really attempting to do. Her book is a more thoughtful, somewhat academic meditation on these ideas, but the publisher positioned it as a pop-sociology book to sell more copies. And it worked - the book sold great!

I don’t mean that at all as a criticism of the book. I enjoyed it quite a lot, there’s just a definite mis-match between the marketing and the content.

I read it a while ago so no takeaways are leaping to the forefront of my memory but will chime in again if anything comes up for me!

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2022, 07:55:45 AM »
I think this book was the unwitting “victim” of the publisher giving it a very catchy title that captured the cultural zeitgeist more than Odell was really attempting to do. Her book is a more thoughtful, somewhat academic meditation on these ideas, but the publisher positioned it as a pop-sociology book to sell more copies. And it worked - the book sold great!

I don’t mean that at all as a criticism of the book. I enjoyed it quite a lot, there’s just a definite mis-match between the marketing and the content.

I read it a while ago so no takeaways are leaping to the forefront of my memory but will chime in again if anything comes up for me!

Totally agree that publishers give books only tangentially related, but eye-catching titles. 

In this case though, Odell gave a presentation at EYEO with this same title before the book.  It sounded like she was processing 2016 world events, and needed to just sit on a bench and do nothing.  She says it's not a book about putting down the phone, but about questioning the need to be constantly productive.  Thus the title of the talk, and then the book.

And yeah, I think it did hit just as the super-productivity wave was cresting, so it was carried into popularity as people realized they were burning out, running an unsatisfying rat race. 


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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2022, 08:05:27 AM »
Notes from chapter 4: Exercises In Attention

Here Odell talks a lot about attention though the lens of art history and her personal experiences.  John Cage would take time series of photographs to make people think about how time interacted with the subject.

Zen quote: "If something is boring for 2 minutes, then try it for 4, 8, 16, until it is not boring."

She grew up in Cupertino and found it boring, just consumer culture.  But later she came to look at it with new eyes and saw the underlying ecology, the streams, the topology, the birds, the creatures.  She realized that things were different if you stood in different places, or saw things at different times.  What seems boring going through the routine may not be boring when paying attention all day and in different ways.

There are some great pithy quotes:
 "reality is strange when you look at it rather than through it"
 "curiosity is from the difference of known and unknown"
 "transcend the self, instead of seeing things for the product of their functions, see the things, their existence"
 "algorithms beat us at the attention game"

She talked about the different between the "I it" relationship and the "I thou" relationship.  "I it" only sees from the point of view of the what someone/something does for you, for your desires.  While in an "I thou", you feel the irreducibility and the fullness of the other.  You don't convert it to how it is good for you, but see it as the thou that just exists.  (ed: This is pretty deep, and although I felt like I was part way thinking this way, I realized that it does change how I think - when I remember to think this way!)

She says: "In the short term, distractions can keep us from doing the things we want to do.  In the long term, they can accumulate, keeping us from living the lives we want to live, or worse undermine our capacities for reflection and contemplation - making it harder to want what we want."  (ed: I feel like this intentionality is something FIRE folks know about, but may not have thought deeply about.)




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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2022, 09:47:30 AM »
Oh man the insights in your last two paragraphs are huge! I have absolutely thought about cumulative distraction this way all my life!

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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2022, 03:56:13 PM »
Just finished the book (saw it at the libraryand remembered the title from your post)! Some great ideas and interesting bits of history in there and definitely some areas for further investigation as well. In all it read like a survey level course, with just tastes of a hodgepodge of different ideas about how to live better in today's world.

Chapter 4 was interesting to me in the sense that art can be used to teach neurotypical people to notice sights and sounds in a way that is sometimes labeled as "sensory processing disorder " (odd that this wasn't mentioned).  I would like to learn more about the artists that she profiled though.

I rather liked her ideas in chapter 6 about how restoring the natural environment and community spaces can go hand in hand, as well as her general thoughts throughout about how ecology and culture fit together.  I thought the book ended on a hopeful note.

@mtnrider I can see why you were frustrated by the nonlinear and sometimes jumpy presentation of ideas (transitions such as "this reminded me of...", for example, seemed like tangents or just sloppy writing) but then I started to think that it was a conscious choice to organize the ideas in a sort of labyrinth instead of a linear progression.

ETA this forum is a nice example of a type of social media that isn't algorithmically controlled!!! no like button/upvoting/any of that nonsense. Stuff gets promoted chronologically. I suppose the more a post is interacted with the higher it will rise in "show new posts since last visit" but it's a lot less echo-chamber-y than facebook or reddit.
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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2022, 05:48:37 PM »
I need to get the book. I've been trying to listen to the Audio book. I just keep wondering off.

She says: "In the short term, distractions can keep us from doing the things we want to do.  In the long term, they can accumulate, keeping us from living the lives we want to live, or worse undermine our capacities for reflection and contemplation - making it harder to want what we want."  (ed: I feel like this intentionality is something FIRE folks know about, but may not have thought deeply about.)

Reminded me of a term I read, "The Fog of Work".

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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2022, 09:25:33 PM »
I read How to Do Nothing a few years ago, and I don't remember much about it except that I really enjoyed it. I think I read it in an appropriate period of my life. Sometimes books resonate better if they illuminate something I can deeply relate to in the moment.

I do remember it wasn't about doing nothing. I don't remember what she suggested we do, but I can only assume I'm doing what she recommended because I liked the book and found it useful.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2022, 11:17:54 AM »
Notes from chapter 5: Ecology of Strangers

We live in a filter bubble of people and things.

When are you really part of a community vs just living in an area?

Odell relates having seen a stranger having a seizure on the street, she stopped to help and it changed the way she saw things, she glimpsed the fragility of life. 

Other people have depths the same as your own, try not to be self-centered.  You have other options.  The driver who cut you off could be bringing a child to the hospital.  Someone who yelled at you might have been having a bad day.  Compassion and love is a choice.

Paradise in hell - during disasters, people in an area who may not know each other pull together and help each other out.

Software curation algorithms keep you in a bubble.  They can replace complex realities with simple ones.  Embrace diversity.

In Civil Disobedience Thoreau writes, "Unthinking people are basically dead before your time."

The self is not separate of others, it's hard to say where the self begins and ends.





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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2022, 01:00:56 PM »
Great stuff, concept of community vs just living somewhere is definitely something to chew on.

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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2022, 08:17:04 AM »
Great stuff, concept of community vs just living somewhere is definitely something to chew on.

Totally!

Like a lot of professionals, I'm usually just living somewhere.  My home is a place of convenience, and I don't have ties to the community.  I have a virtual community, and good work relations.  When my child was younger, I had a somewhat weaker community of parents.  But I didn't know my neighbors well.  Many of my friends aren't even in-state.

About 10 years ago Vicki Robin bogged her bout with cancer, she wrote about how the community helped her through it.  This is awesome, but it also seemed alien to me.  How does this happen?  Who organizes it?  Does it have to be religious (or semi/quasi religious)? 

Finding a local community of some sort is on my TODO list now.

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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2022, 03:34:28 PM »
Ironically, I have learned to be more resilient about community, because there is a dark side to it: rejection, bullying, exclusion...

I found that in some of the parent-related communities near me and in some other professional and hobby contexts. Basically, I now have no parent friends other than those in my own family. For a while I nursed an idea that I was an outsider and a loner and always had been, but this was just reaction to these rejection events that happened more or less around the same time.

Now I feel more equanimity about it, taking a clue from my own (almost grown) kids, in fact, who easily move from group to group without nursing a grudge or ruminating much about what has gone before. Further, I embraced "rejection = protection" and the idea that one should treat community like a job search, not wailing and giving up after a few failures. I also accept that things end, and that is OK.

For me the pandemic was a great reset of many of my social insecurities (FOMO being one) and as a slightly introverted extrovert (or vice versa) I felt a wonderful release of the pressure to interact with various groups. Now I really joyfully interact with others.

I also feel more positive about finding/creating community now. I have just a handful of close friends I do things with VERY occasionally (like every 50-90 days LOL), then a larger local circle where we share interests and may see each other in passing on a weekly basis. Without the emotional neediness or pressure I used to feel, it seems an easy equation. Community is created by meeting up with people (bike ride, party, hike, show, virtual meeting) and lending a hand to people (volunteer, weeding, nice convo with neighbors, lending an ear, supporting with money/time/effort, kind words via text or social media).
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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2022, 08:51:04 AM »
@Fru-Gal I think we're on the same page, but you've thought about it more than I have.

I haven't personally experienced rejection, bullying, exclusion, apart from my misguided attempt to hang out with the cool kids as a teenager :).  It must have been hard to have experienced that as an adult.  I guess community is like all human things, the results can be for good or ill.  And when you join, you can make yourself vulnerable to potential bad behavior.

Maybe a community structure lends itself to bad behavior?  For instance, I don't hang out on Twitter because, despite some positive aspects, the culture and algorithms lean to toxicity.  The MMM Forums community seems to lean towards thinking and rationality.  Being part of the Survivor TV show seems like it's heavily skewed to toxicity - pitting everyone against each other.  (Not that I've seen more than 10 minutes of that show.)  A reason I didn't want to work for Amazon or Netflix was that, despite the high pay, the culture is you vs teammates (complete with an institutionalized "backstabber app" to undercut your colleagues), and team vs team, which strikes me as horrible.

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Re: How to Do Nothing, by Jenny Odell
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2022, 11:54:04 AM »
Notes from chapter 6: Restoring the Ground for Thought

Thoreau - we aren't cultivating out minds for thinking:  "We are accustomed to say in New England that few and fewer pigeons visit us every year. Our forests furnish no mast for them. So, it would seem, few and fewer thoughts visit each growing man from year to year, for the grove in our minds is laid waste - sold to feed unnecessary fires of ambition, or sent to mill - and there is scarcely a twig left for them to perch on. They no longer build nor breed with us."

Odell says that we need to loosen our grip on discrete entities, simple origin stories, neat a -> b causes.  We need to use humility and openness, you don't have the whole story. 

Twitter misses context, and is taken out of context.  She points out that the alt-right is weaponizing context by using quotes in contexts where they weren't intended.  Social media use by common users reduces to two styles:
 - posts that can offend an unintended audience
 - posts that are bland enough to offend no one
We don't have the time and space to reflect on intentions.  It's largely about immediate emotion.

We contain multiple identities: for friends, for work, for family.  But Zuckerberg says we shouldn't change, we should have only one identity for work, friends, family.  This leads to

She says we should meet people locally.  It restores context to your understanding.  And quotes are harder to take out of context.  This is how our "social networks" evolved.  One interaction at a time.    It takes energy to talk to someone intentionally, in context.

Arendt: "power can be divided without decreasing it and the interplay of powers with their checks and balances is even liable to generate more power, so long, at least, as the interplay is alive and has not resulted in a stalemate."  Understanding each other in context can combine two ideas and create a more powerful, better third idea with more support.