Author Topic: Would you allow your kid to go to a birthday party during COVID?  (Read 4979 times)

EngineerOurFI

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Re: Would you allow your kid to go to a birthday party during COVID?
« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2021, 09:20:34 AM »
Basically all of my kids friends parents are vaccinated -- including the ones that had COVID19 already.  Most of my kids friends grandparents are also vaccinated.  It's getting incredibly easy to get a vaccine appointment in my area - I just did a search and there are ten available Johnson and Johnson appointments at Walgreens locations within 15 miles of me.  That's literally just Walgreens - obviously you could get a vaccine at dozens of other locations.  In other words, anyone in my bubble or bubble-adjacent who wants to get a vaccine has ready access to it and - for the most part - has gotten it.  We've been very careful throughout the entire pandemic, but all of the evidence suggests that the Pfizer/Moderna/J&J vaccines are very safe, provide a decent length of protection, and the latest news indicates that the vaccines prevent you from being a carrier or spreader of the virus. 

However, the reality is we have a shocking number of folks that have "vaccine hesitancy" and based on the polls I've seen saying only 22% of Catholics plan to get the vaccine and 40% of marines are declining the vaccine...we may never reach anywhere approaching 80-90% vaccination rates.  So to me all I can do is make sure my immediate family, my extended family (uncles/aunts/grandparents), and my immediate friend bubble (the parents and grandparents and caretakers of kids my kids frequently play with) are vaccinated.  After that, I just have to rely on the fact that our family has received vaccines for the adults and that all the evidence seems to indicate kids aren't rampant spreaders of COVID19 and aren't susceptible to nearly the same level of risks.  Because if our goal here is to wait until we hit some magical 95% vaccination rate.....doesn't look like that's going to happen ANYTIME soon even if vaccines were 100% available.  So for me it would be a yes with two caveats:
  • I might call the host parent to inquire as to size of group etc.
  • if the host was clearly a super anti-vaxxer nutjob I would have pretty serious issues going because I don't want to be involved in their propoganda even in a tangential fashion (e.g. "Oh EngineerOurFI who is a total masker was fine coming to little Susie's party, so I guess COVID isn't real" etc.)  This is a hard one though because if your kid is close friends with this person's kid....you have to start thinking about how long this is going to go on.  What if this family doesn't get the vaccine ever?  Are you not going to allow your kid to hang out with that kid ever?  I don't have an answer for that one, just asking the question.


Our family has made the conscious choice that going forward, since vaccines are now readily available in our area, we will not be HOSTING any event at our house (Thanksgiving, Christmas, parties, whatever) where invitees are not vaccinated (assuming they are of age to receive vaccinations).  However, as someone that is vaccinated, it honestly doesn't bother me to ATTEND an event where there are some unvaccinated people because I know that my family will be fine.  I just refuse to host any event where folks aren't vaccinated because I don't want to essentially enable the spreading at my house/my event due to some idiots individuals not being vaccinated.  This may cause issues with my mother, because she's become an anti-vaxxer over the past 12 months (/facepalm) and I'm literally about to call her today to have what will likely be an uncomfortable conversation where I let her know that she politely won't be invited to events at my house until she gets the vaccine (just now having this conversation since the vaccines have become drastically more available/accessible in our area).

If either of my kids had substantive pre-existing conditions (they do not) then I probably would feel differently until such time as the kids could be safely vaccinated, of course.

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Re: Would you allow your kid to go to a birthday party during COVID?
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2021, 05:51:04 PM »
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22% of Catholics plan to get the vaccine and 40% of marines are declining the vaccine...
These are two different cases.  In the case of the Marines I think they taking the perspective of self sacrificing so that others can get the vaccine first, I've seen some polling of military to support this. Marines tend to be the healthiest Americans you'll find on average, so they think they can take the hit better.

The Catholics though are right in there with the White Evangelical groups that supported the former pres and are showing an extremely high vaccine hesitancy.  Their reasons vary from divine protection to conspiracy theories to religious views opposing.  My point is I wouldn't lump the Marines in with the Religious Right, two different issues.

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Re: Would you allow your kid to go to a birthday party during COVID?
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2021, 06:09:21 PM »
The Catholics though are right in there with the White Evangelical groups that supported the former pres and are showing an extremely high vaccine hesitancy.  Their reasons vary from divine protection to conspiracy theories to religious views opposing.  My point is I wouldn't lump the Marines in with the Religious Right, two different issues.

Seems really weird.  Didn't the pope tell Catholics that they had a moral obligation to get vaccinated?  It's weird that Trump holds more sway over US Catholics than the head of their religious organization.

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Re: Would you allow your kid to go to a birthday party during COVID?
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2021, 03:47:52 AM »
The Catholics though are right in there with the White Evangelical groups that supported the former pres and are showing an extremely high vaccine hesitancy.  Their reasons vary from divine protection to conspiracy theories to religious views opposing.  My point is I wouldn't lump the Marines in with the Religious Right, two different issues.

Seems really weird.  Didn't the pope tell Catholics that they had a moral obligation to get vaccinated?  It's weird that Trump holds more sway over US Catholics than the head of their religious organization.

Some archdioceses have said that the vaccines are unacceptable because of the use of fetal cell lines in the production and/or development of them.