Author Topic: Useless human being alert: school board member proposes parent dress code  (Read 7082 times)

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You would think these people have better things to do with their time:

https://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/school-board-member-dress-code-parents-rosalind-osgood-boyd-anderson-high-155852940.html


"If you’re a busy parent who brings your child to school each morning, you probably don't give much thought to what you throw on before heading out the door. But if your kid goes to school in Florida, you might soon have to ditch those yoga pants and starting dressing up for the drop-off. One Florida school board member is proposing a dress code for parents in order to set a good example for students."

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I actually know schools where parents have to agree to a certain dress code in order for their kids to be accepted. They're private religious institutions, though. I can't imagine this flying at a public school.
WHERE????  I went to private school and I can just hear the screaming now if you tried that with the parents.

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I actually know schools where parents have to agree to a certain dress code in order for their kids to be accepted. They're private religious institutions, though. I can't imagine this flying at a public school.
WHERE????  I went to private school and I can just hear the screaming now if you tried that with the parents.

Far right wing Orthodox Jewish schools. Basically, if you're sending your kids to a school like this, it's because you want them to be exposed to a certain kind of religious environment. By and large, the parents sending to these schools want that dress code modeled for their kids. For instance, the Satmar Hasidic girl's school in Brooklyn requires that fathers wear traditional Hasidic garb and that women follow the modesty standards set by their religious leader, including wearing a covering over their wig and beige stockings with seams up the back. Many Orthodox day schools requires that mothers only pick up their children wearing skirts and with covered hair, because that's what Orthodox Jewish law requires, and they want that modeled to the children while they're at school, even if the parents don't follow this at home. If that's not your speed, there are plenty of Jewish, even Orthodox affiliated day schools without these rules. But the parents sending to these schools look at these rules and say, "What a wonderful, holy environment for my kids to spend their time in!" and they're happy to pay for that and push for it.
Point, I forgot about the extremist schools.  Thanks for reminding me. 

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I work at an elementary school, and, while I would never support something like this (I'd actively oppose it), you should see some of the stuff parents wear.

I'm not talking "yoga pants" like in the article (who gives a shit about that?), I'm talking like stripper outfits.  Where you can see nearly all of their private areas.

I mean, yeah, I am in Vegas, but you'd think picking up your kid you wouldn't wear something you'd wear to a club, where, if I was there, I'd still be embarrassed to look at you.
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I do like one of the quotes from the article:

"Maybe if our kids didn’t have a crazy amount of homework each night, we parents would have more time to thoughtfully set out our clothes for the next morning."

Which country is this?  It can't be the USA because homework is a joke here.  If a kid spends more than 30 minutes a night on homework I would be shocked.

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Having the chance to see a woman dressed like a stripper is an American RIGHT! If someone wants to repress women, they can move to Iran or Afghanistan, but we won't stand for this! Ladies, if you agree, wear your sluttiest outfits in protest. My PM box is always open for jpegs.

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Then again, I am having second thoughts.  Maybe there is room for *some* standard...


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Screw these people, I'm going to keep dropping my son off in my thong and roller skates.

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If these parents really wanted to save time, they could actually start sending their kids on the bus.  I know, it's a crazy idea. 

That being said, life happens.  I had to schlepp myself and my daughter to a friend and neighbor's house to take advantage of laundry (the washing machine in our apartment broke and we had a serious need for clean diapers) and I did it in my baggy sweatpants with the baby spitup on them because I just wasn't going to get all dressed up to carry dirty diapers.  Who am I to judge these parents for wearing yoga pants and tank tops to drop their kids off?  It's possible they're running late because the kid missed the bus (I was notorious for that).

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I wear my pajamas out to put my kid on the bus.  Does that count as judge-worthy?  (Kindergartners have to be put on/off the bus by a parent, after that they can be sent out to the bus stop alone). 

Now, if I am going to the actual school, I make sure to wear yoga pants and a bra. 

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If these parents really wanted to save time, they could actually start sending their kids on the bus.  I know, it's a crazy idea. 

That being said, life happens.  I had to schlepp myself and my daughter to a friend and neighbor's house to take advantage of laundry (the washing machine in our apartment broke and we had a serious need for clean diapers) and I did it in my baggy sweatpants with the baby spitup on them because I just wasn't going to get all dressed up to carry dirty diapers.  Who am I to judge these parents for wearing yoga pants and tank tops to drop their kids off?  It's possible they're running late because the kid missed the bus (I was notorious for that).

We don't have bus service, and it's a charter school 5+ miles away on un-bike-trailerable roads.   Thus I often drop off my son in pajamas.   One day I realized I had a rather risque Taxi Driver shirt on and realized I should probably zip up my jacket.

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hmmm...I think the idea relates to this concept http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory Not as related to crime, but in the general sense of the environment providing cues to the standard of behavior. I do think that a sense of professionalism in school is important and conducive to learning. So I disagree with this person:

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With all the big issues plaguing public schools these days — high poverty rates, language barriers, classroom crowding, guns — there should be bigger concerns than parents in their PJs in school drop-off lines

I think the issues could be related.  Also the code they're presenting is that of "everything covered like a mature, presentable human being" and nothing extreme.

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I do like one of the quotes from the article:

"Maybe if our kids didn’t have a crazy amount of homework each night, we parents would have more time to thoughtfully set out our clothes for the next morning."

Which country is this?  It can't be the USA because homework is a joke here.  If a kid spends more than 30 minutes a night on homework I would be shocked.

Tables here. It appears your 30 minutes estimate is about right for upper elementary schoolers.

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/09/how-much-homework-do-american-kids-do/279805/

That being said: if you care about presenting a certain image to the world, you'll take the 60 seconds required to put on something other than your pajamas. I manage this and I work around 70 hours a week. The parents here don't care and are using homework an excuse. They could at least be honest and say they just don't much care for non-pajama attire (don't blame them) and will wear what they like.

As long as the parents are not actually breaking the law, it is none of the school board or school administration's fucking business what the parent wear when they drop the kids off.

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I do like one of the quotes from the article:

"Maybe if our kids didn’t have a crazy amount of homework each night, we parents would have more time to thoughtfully set out our clothes for the next morning."

Which country is this?  It can't be the USA because homework is a joke here.  If a kid spends more than 30 minutes a night on homework I would be shocked.
I had a ton of homework growing up in the US.  The last time I spent less than 30 minutes a night was in 1st-2nd grade.

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If these parents really wanted to save time, they could actually start sending their kids on the bus.  I know, it's a crazy idea. 

What bus?

Seriously.  Not every place has buses.  In Alaska (4-6th grade), we had a bus only while there was snow on the ground for safety reasons, although this meant until June one year.  Parents had to drive otherwise.  In San Diego (9-12th grade), the only kids bussed in were for diversity purposes.  Yeah, my parents were rip roaring pissed about that. 

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If these parents really wanted to save time, they could actually start sending their kids on the bus.  I know, it's a crazy idea. 

What bus?

Seriously.  Not every place has buses.  In Alaska (4-6th grade), we had a bus only while there was snow on the ground for safety reasons, although this meant until June one year.  Parents had to drive otherwise.  In San Diego (9-12th grade), the only kids bussed in were for diversity purposes.  Yeah, my parents were rip roaring pissed about that.

Um, I live in Alaska.  There are buses in my area, and believe me when I say it's generally not too cold to walk and/or bike for school aged children.  (One mom here was profiled in the paper for biking her kids to daycare/preschool at least 3 days a week in the winter.  She said to bundle them up, give them a hot breakfast, hot drinks, and hot water bottles to warm their hands on.) Yes, there are people outside of the bus zones.  But not the crazy numbers I see dropping off their high schoolers every day, as I walk past a high school every morning.  People from my own neighborhood even, just 3-4 blocks away from the school.  The traffic in that area is basically non-existent when school isn't in session.
In my own school years (WA state) there were plenty of kids in my neighborhood that all had to gather at a few bus stops.  There were usually one or two moms for the little kids, for safety.  There are plenty of other places (besides your two data points) in which something like that would be possible, but people aren't doing it.

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If these parents really wanted to save time, they could actually start sending their kids on the bus.  I know, it's a crazy idea. 

What bus?

Seriously.  Not every place has buses.  In Alaska (4-6th grade), we had a bus only while there was snow on the ground for safety reasons, although this meant until June one year.  Parents had to drive otherwise.  In San Diego (9-12th grade), the only kids bussed in were for diversity purposes.  Yeah, my parents were rip roaring pissed about that.

Um, I live in Alaska.  There are buses in my area, and believe me when I say it's generally not too cold to walk and/or bike for school aged children.  (One mom here was profiled in the paper for biking her kids to daycare/preschool at least 3 days a week in the winter.  She said to bundle them up, give them a hot breakfast, hot drinks, and hot water bottles to warm their hands on.) Yes, there are people outside of the bus zones.  But not the crazy numbers I see dropping off their high schoolers every day, as I walk past a high school every morning.  People from my own neighborhood even, just 3-4 blocks away from the school.  The traffic in that area is basically non-existent when school isn't in session.
In my own school years (WA state) there were plenty of kids in my neighborhood that all had to gather at a few bus stops.  There were usually one or two moms for the little kids, for safety.  There are plenty of other places (besides your two data points) in which something like that would be possible, but people aren't doing it.

It wasn't for the cold, it was for people slipping and falling is my understanding (otherwise, I'm sure it would have been set to a cold temperature outside, like my middle school did in deciding whether to make us wait outside for the school to open 15 minutes before classes start, or letting us in early).

I'm not saying everywhere doesn't have buses, but just noting there's been perhaps a trend in reducing buses, whether from cost cutting or who knows what other reason (our precious darlings won't ride?).  I walked 1-3rd grade in Michigan and took a bus 7&8th grade.

I for one would happily put my kids on a bus if there was one available. 

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If these parents really wanted to save time, they could actually start sending their kids on the bus.  I know, it's a crazy idea. 

What bus?

Seriously.  Not every place has buses.  In Alaska (4-6th grade), we had a bus only while there was snow on the ground for safety reasons, although this meant until June one year.  Parents had to drive otherwise.  In San Diego (9-12th grade), the only kids bussed in were for diversity purposes.  Yeah, my parents were rip roaring pissed about that.

Um, I live in Alaska.  There are buses in my area, and believe me when I say it's generally not too cold to walk and/or bike for school aged children.  (One mom here was profiled in the paper for biking her kids to daycare/preschool at least 3 days a week in the winter.  She said to bundle them up, give them a hot breakfast, hot drinks, and hot water bottles to warm their hands on.) Yes, there are people outside of the bus zones.  But not the crazy numbers I see dropping off their high schoolers every day, as I walk past a high school every morning.  People from my own neighborhood even, just 3-4 blocks away from the school.  The traffic in that area is basically non-existent when school isn't in session.
In my own school years (WA state) there were plenty of kids in my neighborhood that all had to gather at a few bus stops.  There were usually one or two moms for the little kids, for safety.  There are plenty of other places (besides your two data points) in which something like that would be possible, but people aren't doing it.

It wasn't for the cold, it was for people slipping and falling is my understanding (otherwise, I'm sure it would have been set to a cold temperature outside, like my middle school did in deciding whether to make us wait outside for the school to open 15 minutes before classes start, or letting us in early).

I'm not saying everywhere doesn't have buses, but just noting there's been perhaps a trend in reducing buses, whether from cost cutting or who knows what other reason (our precious darlings won't ride?).  I walked 1-3rd grade in Michigan and took a bus 7&8th grade.

I for one would happily put my kids on a bus if there was one available.

I do know about the slipping and falling, since that's how I broke my wrist a few weeks ago!  There's also been a lot of improvement and education about slipping and ice, though.  I think a lot of the lack of busing is attributable to the fact that parents won't let their precious darlings ride in a messy old school bus.

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As long as the parents are not actually breaking the law, it is none of the school board or school administration's fucking business what the parent wear when they drop the kids off.

I completely agree.
I completely agree, but furthermore, what each parent decides to wear out in public is setting the standard that their child sees. Their child may come to the conclusion that they will imitate or rebel from this behavior, as kids are oft to do, but what you say and what you do has an impact on your child, positive or negative. Kids also bring this example with them to school, and then learn from their peers, so... be mindful of what your meat-sponge organism gets exposed to..
Don't they teach that in Parenting 101? Darn things don't come with instruction manuals.. :)

 

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