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Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« on: February 01, 2022, 05:57:40 PM »
I constantly think about quitting my job. In 2015 I quit to be a stay at home mom. Then came back in 2019. Here we are in 2022 and I constantly think about quitting again.

Financially I can quit because my husband can support us on his income. After years of saving for early retirement we realized that this was only my dream and not his. He places too much of his identity in his work. I guess my fear is that I won’t be able to go back if I quit for a second time. It would really be the end. Then it’s not a baby break, but instead saying I don’t want to spend my time working anymore.

How do you pull the trigger into being okay with being an indefinite stay-at-home mom? It seems so final now.
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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2022, 09:06:07 PM »
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How do you pull the trigger into being okay with being an indefinite stay-at-home mom?
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I guess my fear is that I won’t be able to go back if I quit for a second time.

Do you mean that you won't be able to go back to your current employer or back into your current field of work?
What if you try to take a sabbatical instead?

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2022, 09:55:17 PM »
Do you mean that you won't be able to go back to your current employer or back into your current field of work?
What if you try to take a sabbatical instead?

Hi Beee, I fear I won’t be able to go back to a similar pay and status. I went back to a different company after my first baby break and I took a large pay cut. I’m still not paid as much as before kids. This really discourages me.

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2022, 07:47:15 AM »
I constantly think about quitting my job. In 2015 I quit to be a stay at home mom. Then came back in 2019. Here we are in 2022 and I constantly think about quitting again.

Financially I can quit because my husband can support us on his income. After years of saving for early retirement we realized that this was only my dream and not his. He places too much of his identity in his work. I guess my fear is that I won’t be able to go back if I quit for a second time. It would really be the end. Then it’s not a baby break, but instead saying I don’t want to spend my time working anymore.

How do you pull the trigger into being okay with being an indefinite stay-at-home mom? It seems so final now.

Why do you want to quit?  Is it because you don't like your job or because you want to stay home with your kids or both?  Once your kids are older and you have more free time, do you have hobbies you'd like to pursue or volunteer work?  Would you miss being in the workforce? Maybe you could try a different line of work if you want to go back later on?

Part time work could be an alternative to explore.

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2022, 07:50:43 AM »
I think a lot about this as well. I’ve always taken shorter 4-6 month sabbaticals to avoid the pay/status problem, but I’d like to take a longer chunk of time off. I agree that if you take years off, you can’t go back at similar pay and status.

I’m not interested in being a SAHP only. I’ve volunteered a lot, but it always results in me feeling like I’m doing a ton of work and not getting paid. At some point a few years in, the mission of whatever organization isn’t enough to offset the stress of working for free.

Anyway, I’m posting mostly to follow. I also want to quit and can afford it, but absolutely don’t have interest in becoming a SAHP as my main identity.

Interested to hear what others have to say.

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2022, 01:23:57 PM »
How do you take a sabbatical in the US? It seems to me that breaks longer than your PTO need to be short-term disability, or you need to quit or risk being fired.

Ultimately I want to be a stay-at-home parent, but I see now that it would be the end of my metaverse job, 😂 I joke because I really am starting to feel that my job is not the real world. It’s “screen time”. My kids, nature, learning and enjoying this abundant life are the real world.

I guess my problem is, how do I stop caring about having a career? How do you change your mentality after being programmed for years to think this is very important?

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2022, 06:05:06 AM »
Posting to follow mainly. I took a year off last year, and came back to work to a less-than-ideal job. It will get my kids access to really good education starting next year but I’m already toying with the idea of leaving when (inshallah) we have our next kid, hopefully next spring. But I worry that a short 2-year working stint would look bad, and I’m not sure I would want to be done forever.

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2022, 01:01:49 PM »
How do you take a sabbatical in the US? It seems to me that breaks longer than your PTO need to be short-term disability, or you need to quit or risk being fired.

Ultimately I want to be a stay-at-home parent, but I see now that it would be the end of my metaverse job, 😂 I joke because I really am starting to feel that my job is not the real world. It’s “screen time”. My kids, nature, learning and enjoying this abundant life are the real world.

I guess my problem is, how do I stop caring about having a career? How do you change your mentality after being programmed for years to think this is very important?
This is a hard one, and I don't have an answer.  I ask that myself sometimes.

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How do you pull the trigger into being okay with being an indefinite stay-at-home mom? It seems so final now.

Nothing is really final though, now, is it?  You can always go back to work again if you want to or need to.  Be flexible!  (Easy to say, not to do.)

I guess here's how I think of it...there is this typical career path thing...historically for men (and some women), where it has to be linear... You start working in a career, you take no breaks (except maybe mat leave), and you consistently get raises and promotions, so you can show success in your career and life.

This is basically where I am at.

Then there's this non-linear life thing.  This is how many (most?) lives turn out.  It's been pretty common for the "mommy track" to take long breaks, and come back into something else entirely, or come back making less money.  Some women make up for "lost" time in their careers later in life.  Some don't.  But what is your priority?  What do you WANT?

Do you WANT this linear career progression?  Where you define yourself by your job/ career, and have something to show for it?  Or do you want to work because you like working?  Do you work ONLY for money?  Or do you get something else out of it?  Unfortunately, it's rare for people to get everything they want out of work.  I, for one, would rather have a part time job right now, for example.

A lot of people worry what OTHER people think - so, do you worry what other people think about you giving up a career?  That can be hard to overcome.

I have a few examples of friends who have quit when they had kids and changed their life's progression.  From FT job to adjunct teaching or self employment.  Some moved into catering (for themselves or others).  A FT counselor to a PT counselor.  A woman who went back to school in her 50s and is now working for social services in her 60s.  A former preacher who works for public health, then non-profits, then a hospital.  An engineer who quit to do education outreach, and then started a company to bring STEM education to middle schools.  A few women with PhDs who took many years off to volunteer at the elementary schools.  One of them went back to working in a bio lab after 15 years, and another is working for a winery doing planning.

I'm an engineer, and it's certainly not the "norm" for people I know.  (Though I don't know many women engineers anymore.)  I've thought of quitting, but I'd call it early retirement (I'm 51), even though my kids are 15 and 9, so let's face it, I'd be a SAHP.

The money thing is tough - but you need to look at it as exchange for your time and expertise.  If I quit now, and then in 5 years tried to go back...let's say I decided to work as a quality engineer or a fab engineer again because that's all I could get - yep, it would be a pay cut.  However, it would be a fair exchange of $ for the type of work.
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sabbatical: you really just ask for 6 months of unpaid leave.  Many companies let you do that.

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2022, 11:10:52 PM »
sabbatical: you really just ask for 6 months of unpaid leave.  Many companies let you do that.

This. And when they don’t let you do it, just quit. I’ve taken sabbaticals both ways. Just told my boss this week that I’m planning to take the summer off. I didn’t ask - I told.

What can he say? No? He knows I’ll just quit instead. It’s better for him if I come back. It’s not exactly easy to hire people now. He can replace me if he wants - I gave him plenty of notice. But I’m ok with that outcome. I’ll just find another job.

My spouse did the same thing. His employer’s response - whatever you want just please come back.

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2022, 08:23:22 AM »
I guess my problem is, how do I stop caring about having a career? How do you change your mentality after being programmed for years to think this is very important?
Hanging around here is a good place to start ;-) Also, read (or at least skim) all of Pete's blog posts. Toss in a quick perusal of YMOYL and you'll have a good start at your answers.

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2022, 04:52:59 PM »
This is a good question and has also been on my mind.  My first thought is that the way we view our own identity in the context of career, and thereby our satisfaction with our decision to work or retire, is tied to our locus of control.  If one's mindset favors an internal locus of control and a sense of self-efficacy in their decision making, that brings with it a sense of confidence and satisfaction in however they form their identity.  If, however, one's mindset favors an external locus on control, one's identity is subject to the whims of the outside world.

IMO, there is nothing wrong if a person's identity is wrapped up in their work, nor if their identity is entirely disconnected from work, or some intermediate.  More important is that a person's identity is consistent with their internal value system.

A part of my identity is tied to my career, but not all of it.  I recently gave notice to my employer, and will go from FT to 1 week/month, which I would say is about as much as my identity that I would attach to career right now.

I wonder also if there are gender role forces at play.  I am male, but I can only imagine that the internal conflict regarding the parenting-career tug of war must be harder for women, on average.  Given that women were (and in many cases continue to be) forced into a position in which there is no choice but to sacrifice career for parenting, as men have not carried their weight on this, I imagine there must be an even greater feeling of needing to prove (? I can't think of the right word here) that their identity is not wholly synonymous with being a parent.  I could be wrong on that and feel free to educate/face punch me, but I saw it in my mom when she was forced out of her career to take care of the kids (me), and I see it in my wife whose identity is much more tied to her career than mine, and we have the same career.  I wonder if it's especially harder for you to let go of your career as your husband would seem to tie his identity so closely to his.

I recently gave notice to my employer and am downshifting my career by 75%.  I feel I have a fairly strong internal locus of control, and healthy dose of male privilege here, but even I would struggle to give it up 100%.  I would totally respect someone who left their career completely and never looked back.

Maybe the real question is to understand that if there were no external influences, would you want part of your identity to be tied to your career?  There is no right or wrong answer here.  If yes, then maybe the issue is the job, and needing a different arrangement.  If no, then you have this anonymous internet poster's opinion to quit and to tell everyone who questions the decision to go take a hike.

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2022, 10:30:50 AM »
Point #3 is very salient for me… thank you all for offering fuel for thought

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Re: Quit to be Stay at Home Parent (Again!)
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2022, 12:06:14 PM »
My husband quit his career when we had our third and our family has never been happier. After a few years he applied to be the kids garden teacher at the school. Now he even gets paid a little bit to spend time with the kids and their friends.