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Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« on: March 23, 2016, 08:33:26 AM »
I want to stop buying birthday presents for everyone else's kids. But I feel like I'm breaking the social contract if I don't buy a gift for a birthday party we are attending. Other than not going to birthday parties, what do you do? We also did a no gift book exchange for our son's last party. We have two kids, and the birthday presents really add up!

Relatedly, OMG what is up with kids' birthday parties? They are so $$$ and over-the-top! I don't want to rent a space, have an art lesson, and give a good bag!

Tell me it's ok to have the kids splash in a baby/wading pool (that we already own) and not do "goody bags."

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2016, 08:49:43 AM »
I can completely relate to the fact that birthday parties (other kids and your own parties) can add up quickly.  My oldest has had 5 party invites in 2016.  I personally think that if you are going to attend a party, it is appropriate to bring a gift. The cost/value of that gift is up to you.  You could give them an invitation to come with you to the park or zoo or some other experience? Or give a small token gift? My son's favorite gift at his party was a 5$ nerf gun.  If you don't want to give anything, I would just skip the parties all together.  We are now setting a limit the number of parties, which is working so far because dh is a bit of an introvert and only wants to attend the parties of close friends anyways.  For your own child's party, you get to do whatever you want!  We have been to a few parties where there is no goodie bag and honestly, I think everyone involved is just relieved!

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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2016, 08:55:46 AM »
Only 5 parties in a year? That sounds awesome! My son usually wants to go... we have about two parties a month that we attend.

ETA: Oh, I see that you mean 5 invites in 2016... yeah, that's a lot!
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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2016, 09:55:51 AM »
Can your kids afford the birthday gift out of their budgets?  Do you still intend to give a card?  After witnessing a mountain of toys overwhelming a small apartment, if you have to give something, just give cash.

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2016, 04:05:59 PM »
Think of the other children's parents. They hate the piles of crap too. For other children's parties, either bring a book (children's books are cheap and you could buy good quality second hand), some sweets/cookies (bake them with your child!), or have your child draw them a special card. For your child's birthday, put "no presents, please" on the invitation and reinforce this by telling the parents beforehand that you will not be accepting any presents at the party. If someone arrives with a present, say thank you but hand it back to them. They can always give it to another child. (Yes, I am a social hardass, but I think the other parents will be secretly grateful.)

The season your child is born in makes a big difference. I'm an October baby and I swear it rains every single birthday, but I had some great birthday parties in my parents sitting room. We played party games, my parents hired a magician, and then we had sandwiches, cake and jelly and ice cream. I was happy because I got to dress up (it was always fancy dress and I think I was a cat about five years in a row) and play games and eat my favourite foods (OMG, ham sandwiches cut into STAR SHAPES!!!) My brother, on the other hand, always had great weather and got outdoors birthdays. They're kind of easier because a few water pistols and balls makes a party, but mine were great for me. One great indoor activity is to do arts and crafts at home. Buy lots of coloured paper, glue and glitter and have the children make as much mess as they want. Yes, you will be picking glitter out of the cat for days, but they'll love the unrestrained mess. There are loads of variations on this, from decorating treasure boxes to making masks or crowns.

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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2016, 04:42:26 PM »
For my five-year-old's birthday, we invited a few kids. They wanted to play with Play-Doh, then they just sort of messed around for a while, and they made English muffin pizzas. No goody bags. I was going to get each kid a balloon but then I wound up having to take him to Urgent Care that afternoon for stitches, so we didn't have time to get them.

Art supplies can also be good--at least they're consumable!

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2016, 07:13:33 PM »
I would just go cheap on the gifts. Target's dollar section has lots of fun stuff - get a dollar beach bucket and fill with 3-5 other $1 things. They usually have little books, coloring books, socks, seasonal toys, kid gardening stuff, snacks, craft stuff, flash cards, etc. Other ideas under $5: bubbles, sidewalk chalk, stickers, craft supplies. For an older kid, maybe just $5-10 in a card, or a fun thing with your kid - like you'll take them both our for ice cream sometime (lots of cheap places you could go).

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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2016, 10:52:41 AM »
Thanks for the ideas! Love the Target Dollar section suggestion and the book suggestion. 

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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2016, 12:41:59 PM »
It’s easy to get around this if you are okay being the weirdos who don’t do gifts for moral reasons. No one expects the Jehovah’s Witnesses or the environmentalist hippies to give gifts because they know that isn’t their thing even in their own families. We don’t have the issue with friend birthdays yet, but we do have little family members. We give them an age appropriate book, and never spend over $15. The parents are 100% fine with this because 1) they don’t want any more crap in their house, and 2) they know we are not big spenders or gift givers (we don’t even buy each other birthday presents!).
Maybe offer to bring a snack instead if you are avoiding gifts altogether. You can call the parents to RSVP, and when you do you can say something like: “we don’t do a lot of gifts in our family but we are so excited to see Joey on his birthday and we'd love to contribute. Do you need anything for the party? We can bring cupcakes!”  Only a spoiled monster parent would think "OMG my child MUST receive a gift to add to their pile of crap. Shove your cupcakes!"
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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2016, 02:01:03 PM »
I think this is the 3rd thread on a related topic in the past couple days, and it's gotten me thinking two things:

One: it sounds like parents are taking a lot of responsibility for both the parties and the gifts. Which I totally understand for very small kids (2-3) but starting at 4-5 my sisters and I were heavily involved in both planning and attending parties. Planning in the sense of: who do you want to invite, what food would you like, and where would you like to have it (home or park, which park, etc...entertainment venues were off the table for us but that obviously varies for families; maybe your home is small so you're ok with certain venues but not others). Gift-giving in the sense of: what do you want to give your friend/what does your friend want? At younger ages I'm sure the choices were somewhat guided, at older ages it was "your budget is  $20, unless you can find someone to do a joint gift with". I mention this because, thinking back, both were pretty good learning experiences. One about making decisions and planning, the other about empathy and thinking of someone else's wants rather than one's own.

Two: I assume your desire not to give gifts comes not from cheapness but from a desire to curb materialism and waste (as you say, there's a social contract that if you take advantage of someone's planning a party, you give a gift). Or you're tired of thinking about it, in which case see #1 and make your kid do it. But, if it's just not wanting to give junk, it's worth thinking about what "things" (not necessarily material) you value about childhood and gearing gifts (not necessarily material) toward those ideas. Some things that were popular in our social group growing up:
1) Art supplies. My friend discovered cross-stitch and calligraphy and I discovered polymer clay (Sculpey) this way. We also did some sewing and knitting from kits we got. It's still stuff, but it teaches DIY skills! I remember we were big fans of Klutz books for their cute included supplies and their fun-to-follow directions. YMMV though.
2) Board games. Many of them we still have (and play). Some of these get expensive though, which brings me to...
3) Joint gifts. $15-20 was pretty standard gift value in our circle(s) but sometimes 2-3 families that knew each other well would band together and get one nice thing instead of 3 junky ones. I think it worked well.
4) Sports equipment. I'll be honest most of this was pricier and thus came from parents (rollerblades, etc). But we were obsessed with Chinese jumprope for a while (that's the one where you put an elastic around your legs). In the Age of Screens, anything to get kids excited about the Real World, neh?
5) Books. We were all avid library patrons, but these were still always appreciated.

Of course, we got our share of Barbies, etc. But it probably says something that I remember lots of the above and not a lot of the more standard toys.

Final note, sometimes it's not exactly about what the gift is, but how it's presented. A young, close family friend was turning 5 or 6 when I was 13 or 14 and nobody in my family was inspired with what to give (all the above ideas seemed exhausted). We ended up in a Hallmark store of all places, and they had these plastic dinosaur eggs with stuffed dinosaurs inside. They were cute and we were desperate so we got her one; then I sat down and typed up some detailed, formal instructions about incubating and caring for your baby dinosaur. Apparently she was obsessed about it for quite a while; the parents had to sneak into her room at night to "hatch" the dino after a few days! (They seemed amused, not upset, by this.) It was still a stuffed animal, which we all had too many of by the end, but at ~$10 it was less than our usual birthday gifts for friends this close; the extra effort made it a pretty unique gift, though. I could see this working *really* well around gifts of experiences... give a kid a "treasure map" and then take them on a hike to find the "treasure"/gift (chocolate coins + costume jewelry or craft rhinestones?). Give them a flashlight and a smores kit and invite them for a real or backyard campout. Give them a "field guide" (i.e. notebook or coloring book) and invite them to the zoo (if you have a cheap or free zoo around).

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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2016, 03:10:32 PM »
Tell me it's ok to have the kids splash in a baby/wading pool (that we already own) and not do "goody bags."

Had the same conversation with the wife recently. I said it was totally OK to just have the party at a playground in the afternoon with no food, goody bags, etc... Just let them play. My daughter had a blast and so did the other kids. My wife felt compelled to buy the bags and send them home. I still disapprove.

As for the rest of the question, depends on the age. Little kids get so much crap for their birthdays that I do not think an extra bag will even be noticed. In fact, if you came to my LOs birthday party and did not bring a gift, you would become my personal hero.

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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2016, 08:32:36 PM »
My DS11 circle of friends have started asking for gifts for charitable causes at their birthday parties. The last one we went to, the request was for toys for young children at the local children's hospital. My DS plans to ask for items to take to the dogs at the local no-kill shelter. Others have asked pjs for a foster-care pj drive or books for a family shelter.

Cost-wise, it comes out the same, but somehow it feels nicer than buying a $15 plastic widget that ends up in a box with a bunch of other plastic widgets.

I think even young kids can get into this idea, and if you start it with your kids, maybe you can lead a mini anti-consumerism revolt in the birthday party social scene.

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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2016, 09:39:54 PM »
If you have an Ikea near you, they have some amazing kids stuff under $10-$15 also. They add new stuff seasonally too. Their play food sets are all nice and $10, wooden working cash register is $14, large easel with chalkboard on one side and dry erase on the other is $15, etc.

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Re: Presents for kids' friends birthdays
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2016, 07:20:16 AM »
Ikea for the win! It's a little far, but doable. Love the idea of giving experiences-- campout, sleepover. Plus that's a gift for the parents!

At 4.8 years old, my oldest is still too young for the presentation idea, but I'll stash that away for the future.

And books are always good.


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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2016, 09:09:24 AM »
I've said this on other threads....best birthday party rule, if the kid is 5, make it a maximum of 5 guests.  Favorite cheap birthdays we had: a scavenger hunt--you hide the "treasure" ( mardi gras beads for my girl) and come up with clues the kids have to follow to find the treasure.  This can be moved inside if the weather is bad. Mardi gras beads are the "goody bag."  Art show...get inexpensive watercolor sets ($1 each or less during back to school sale).  Cover table in plastic and let each kid paint a picture.  Hang them from a string across the wall for that art show when parents pick up. I even found cheap black mats at Michael's so they were "framed."  Paint set and the picture were the "goody bag." This was a huge hit!  Picnic in the park---with a stream.  Use peanut shells with a little melted wax ( or play dough) with a toothpick with a  tiny sail glued to it, or make origami boats with older kids.  Race the boats down the stream.  Have picnic lunch and cupcakes. I never, ever sent candy home.  No one cared.  For food for young kids, you can make simple sandwiches and cut them into shapes with a large cookie cutter.  As kids get older, like age 7, have the birthday kid help make the food and cupcakes/cake. 

I personally thought it was really annoying when people used birthday parties as collections for charities...just say "no gifts" and let people do what they want with the money. This almost became a competition among moms at one point when my daughter was young.  But she was shy and introverted and never wanted to go to the large parties anyhow, just those of her close friends.

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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2016, 10:39:10 PM »
One of the best gifts our son got was a gift card for the frozen yogurt place for his 5th birthday. No crap in the house and he had the power to decide when we went out (within reason). He loved having that power. Now we do the same for other kids.

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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2016, 09:02:57 AM »
I try to buy stuff on sale. When my kids were younger, I always had a stash of toys I bought at deep discounts in the gift closet. As they got older though, I feel it's more meaningful and appropriate for my children to choose gifts they feel happy/excited about giving. Sadly, this means our budget has gone up considerably since kids rarely give much notice before parties. I do feel gifts are a societal necessity unless the birthday child says "no gifts" though.

I do like the experiences idea - things like sleepovers, a picnic in the park, etc - what awesome gift ideas! On her 13th birthday, one of my DD's friends made her an awesome collage of photos of their group of friends. It was a fabulous gift that cost nothing.

@little_brown_dog I like your suggestion. I remember when my kids were little, one of my close friends struggled to make ends meet. We wanted them to come but I hated the thought of their feeling obligated to give a gift. When we invited them, I asked if they could help with party organizing in lieu of a gift. They would come early, help me clean, prep, decorate. Win win for all of us :)

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2016, 12:58:07 PM »
On her 13th birthday, one of my DD's friends made her an awesome collage of photos of their group of friends. It was a fabulous gift that cost nothing.

Doubtful...I recently made a photo album for my grandma and the prints were like $20 (I think I picked out around 200 for $.10 each at CVS, knowing some wouldn't turn out as expected). A nice board and probably a full container of glue this would take is another few dollars. And if she used any decorations like stickers, photo corners, ribbons, etc. that weren't hand-drawn/cut, those can add up really fast (though they do make the final product look very nice). So I'd guess unless it was a very small collage it was at least $10-15. It is a wonderful, thoughtful, and personal gift, better than most things you could buy for that, but it's not zero-cost.

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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2016, 02:16:12 PM »
On her 13th birthday, one of my DD's friends made her an awesome collage of photos of their group of friends. It was a fabulous gift that cost nothing.

Doubtful...I recently made a photo album for my grandma and the prints were like $20 (I think I picked out around 200 for $.10 each at CVS, knowing some wouldn't turn out as expected). A nice board and probably a full container of glue this would take is another few dollars. And if she used any decorations like stickers, photo corners, ribbons, etc. that weren't hand-drawn/cut, those can add up really fast (though they do make the final product look very nice). So I'd guess unless it was a very small collage it was at least $10-15. It is a wonderful, thoughtful, and personal gift, better than most things you could buy for that, but it's not zero-cost.

That particular one was made by a 13 yr old. It consisted of about 10 photos printed out on regular 8x11 paper and stapled together into a shape. I'd say the cost was pretty minimal :) DD loved it.

But I agree - material costs for crafts can be $$$. Of course, there are always Mustachian hacks :)  I once made some cool crafts as gifts pretty inexpensively but it took some price comparisons, research, thought, and various hacks to get the cost down. (And tons of intensive labor of course)