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Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« on: December 13, 2015, 03:06:39 PM »
Hello,

I am starting to research baby gear requirements, and will be combing these forums for the various existing topics on what the true essentials are.

One essential for us will be a car-seat. Our hospital is within walking distance, and I'm secretly hoping we'll be allowed to walk home with the baby, but who knows if I'll be a in a fit state for that or if we'll want to. And anyway, we need a car seat for visiting family/friends further afield.

I am learning about the differences between infant car seats and convertible. At this stage, we think we would prefer a convertible, because we live on a high floor and so don't think a click in/out car seat would be useful for us - they're so heavy/bulky, we'd rather get the baby in and out of the car seat and wear him/her up the stairs in a sling than use the capsule thingy (we're not planning to get a stroller for similar reasons, at least not immediately).

But are you allowed to put a newborn in a convertible? The car seat websites say you can. But they look giant, would a little newborn just be swimming in one of those things?

And I read on this website (http://www.babycenter.com/0_how-to-buy-a-convertible-car-seat_430.bc) that "experts say young babies are safer in an infant car seat". Is that true? There are no references! If so, are the risks significantly higher putting a newborn in a convertible (obviously one rated for their weight/height - I understand babies are different and a premie/small bub may not meet the minimum weight requirements) than in an infant car seat?

I'm open to any and all advice, including if you want to convince me why I need an infant car seat for practical reasons, but my question is really about the safety of going the convertible or 3-in-1 route from birth, and whether that has worked for people.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2015, 03:42:09 PM »
I liked with an infant seat that you always have somewhere to put them securely. Stroller, out to eat, at the store in a shopping cart. We used ours till she out grew it at about 13 months.
Another benifit in the colder climates is that you can get the carseat blankets and covers rather than to have to put a coat warmer clothes on. They go in the seat in the warm house and then put into the car.
Now that she is a standard seat it takes so much longer than just clicking in the infant seat.
The stroller we got with the seat was used very little. We used the infant seat with a jogging stroller the seat just sat in an clipped on.
Also the seats are not very heavy I always just hooked it on my elbow and carried her around easily. As she grew I got stronger at the same time.

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2015, 05:35:43 PM »
Also curious about this topic.  Additionally, will the click in infant car seat fit in a Honda Civic without the front seats having to be pushed forward?

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2015, 09:49:48 PM »
I would just get a convertible.  IMO infant car seats are bulky & awkward. Once out of the car I preferred to use a carrier. 

Side note: With our second we tried to use the infant car seat from our first.  She cried every second she was in the infant seat.  Bought a convertible to put her in......magic!  No more crying.

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2015, 10:32:42 PM »
The most important thing is that your infant's seat does not move, no matter how hard you tug on it.
If you don't have your own car, you want something easy to install to that firmness / security level.

The main reason people like the baby tub style is to not wake a sleeping baby when you arrive home.   But it is likely that babies get used to being transitioned, and it is not the big deal that most people assume it would be... especially if you are not in a car a lot.


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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 06:27:13 AM »
Sounds like you won't be driving much on a regular basis, so the convenience factor might be less of an issue. The other advantage of bucket seats is you can get 2 bases and switch cars easily. But you could just get 2 convertibles in that case. Also, it slightly more difficult to do the buckling when they are rear facing, but you will have to face this issue eventually either way.

You can't put an infant in a 3-in-1 booster. Those are only forward facing and are for children over 2. I have seen inserts for the convertibles so the child is more snug in the larger seat. Most aren't good below 5 lbs, so unless you have a very small baby, you should be fine. I would recommend a carrier or sling that is very comfortble and that you can use with one person since you will be using it often. Some are hard to get the baby in without help.

Regarding the hospital, they are probably used to people bringing up the bucket seat to the room, but if you went this route, you would have to have someone pull the car up to the door for them to check the seat before the baby can leave.

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 07:06:19 AM »
If you do not do the pumpkin seat you will be limited for the first few months to only going places where you can use your stroller or baby wearing because they will not be able to sit up in a restaurant high chair or the grocery cart. And don't count on baby wearing because it can be difficult. (my kids were just too big for me to wear)

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 07:18:34 AM »
A friend of mine with 5 kids in the Air Force (thus she's lived in a lot of different places/climates) told me that she recommends a convertible car seat only as long as the following two things are true
1) You plan to babywear
2) You don't live somewhere with a lot of snow.

She said if you are somewhere snowy the bucket seat is nice because you can get the baby all snuggled in before you leave the apartment/house. But unless it is really really cold, the baby will be fine to have the door open for a few seconds to situate them.

Babywearing because getting a small infant in and out of a stroller is a lot more tedious without the snap in bucket.

Convertibles have special inserts for infants, and often don't come with them, so make sure you get one.
If your baby is less than 5 pounds, you probably need a special seat, but that might be true for buckets too.

Our plan has been to get a snap in/out for my car and a convertible for my husband's. He won't do most of the drop offs, and that saves us money over buying a second base since we need the convertible eventually anyway. (Though I've been told you can safely use the snap in without the base, but that looks terrifying to me.)

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2015, 07:29:11 AM »
She said if you are somewhere snowy the bucket seat is nice because you can get the baby all snuggled in before you leave the apartment/house. But unless it is really really cold, the baby will be fine to have the door open for a few seconds to situate them.

This is the only reason I bought an infant car seat. We hated lugging the thing around (my baby was much easier to carry!) but she was born in January in a cold place, so it was really helpful to put her into a warm seat then move the seat into the car rather than put her into a cold seat in the car. I'm sure if I didn't have it we could have warmed the car up or something (I'm generally incredibly opposed to this, but I can make exceptions for newborns) but it was nice that way.

So other than when it was cold, I never used the ability to take the bucket out of the base.

Just get a car seat that you're comfortable installing/removing and you'll be fine.

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2015, 07:30:29 AM »
We used a convertible from about 8 weeks on. We were given a second hand bucket seat, but our LO hated it, and preferred the convertible, which we used until she was five.

If you use a convertible, and it's cold, you need to careful how much clothing you put on your baby. Please check out this article about carseat safety and too much "fluff." Basically you can have very little compressible material (no fluffy blankets, snow suits, jackets, etc) between your baby and the carseat and buckles. With a freezing cold convertible seat this may be more difficult.
http://thecarseatlady.com/warmandsafe/

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2015, 08:59:29 AM »
You can certainly use a convertible from the beginning but infant car seats are very convenient for the first few months. Our 11 month old is still using it (she is over 20lb and tall for her age) and we just leave the seat in the car most of the time and get her in and out, but it's still nice being able to carry the whole seat out in some situations, like when she is sleeping or it's raining. We also got a good deal ($50) because it was a slightly older model (it's a Graco with a 30 or 35 lb weight limits - I can't remember for sure but 30 lbs is plenty). I would never pay over $100 dollar for an infant seat. Every baby though I've always wondered if I should just skipped it but I feel we get enough use out of it to make it worth it.

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2015, 09:06:03 AM »
If you use a convertible, and it's cold, you need to careful how much clothing you put on your baby. Please check out this article about carseat safety and too much "fluff." Basically you can have very little compressible material (no fluffy blankets, snow suits, jackets, etc) between your baby and the carseat and buckles. With a freezing cold convertible seat this may be more difficult.
http://thecarseatlady.com/warmandsafe/

That is an excellent reminder!  No jackets in car seats!!!

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2015, 09:06:26 AM »
I loved our infant bucket seat with both children.  It's just so convenient.  They both fell asleep in it every time they rode in the car.  It was my eldest's preferred sleeping spot for a while and my youngest never transitioned well from car to home regardless of whether he was in a carseat.  We also wore both babies a lot, but that did not take away from the convenience of the infant bucket seat.  Both of my kids were in it for at least a year.

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2015, 12:06:35 PM »
I used a Britax convertible seat from day 1 with Baby #1. It's definitely doable.

For Baby #2 we used an infant bucket seat and I loved the convenience. He graduated directly to big sister's convertible seat when she was ready for a 3-in-one.

For Baby #3 we reused #2's bucket seat, but she will need a new convertible to remain rear facing through at least age 2 (our original convertible has expired.)

If you think you can get away with not using an infant bucket seat, then try it. Once you have experienced the convenience of the bucket seat, you won't want to give it up!

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2015, 01:36:20 PM »
I want to chime in with our experience because I think it is relevant. We have a convertible seat (the smallest on the market, Corroco Cumbi) and have used it since birth. Our baby came six weeks early and was under 4 pounds when she left the hospital. The NICU required us to bring the seat up and they did a 1-hour test with her in the car seat before allowing us to take her home in it. Basically it checked to make sure that all of her vital signs remained normal while she sat in it. Yes, she used the infant insert (and still does at 1.5 years!) but it has worked out great.

Remember that the car seat is meant to hold and protect the child while you are in the car. It is not designed to be a safe and ergonomic place for a baby to spend extended periods of time. It is a little more of a pain to pull the kid out of the car seat when you arrive at your destination, but it is healthier for the baby to be in something like a wrap than spend a bunch of time in the car seat. As a bonus, the car seat grows with the kid for much longer so you have less crap to buy and dispose of. Win win!

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2015, 08:39:04 PM »
TL;DR Skip the infant seat and get the convertible.

Disclaimer: I hate infant car seats so much that I created an account for the sole purpose of responding to your question (I have been reading in the forum for a long time).

We used a convertible car seat from birth with #1 and now pregnant with #2 I’m trying to decide whether to buy a second of the same seat or a convertible that will take my 2 year old all the way to a booster with seatbelt. Like ysette9, we bought the Combi Coccoro and our two year old is still rear facing in it now.

Reasons we love our convertible:
1. One less car seat to buy. Even the cheap infant ones are expensive. Do you really want to spend an extra $100 or more on something that is completely unnecessary? And don’t forget about storing it if you plan to have another kid.
2. The Combi Coccoro is super compact. We are also a one car family and have a fairly compact car (Nissan Versa hatchback). We have had friends complain that they can’t fit their infant seat behind the driver, but my 6 foot husband can drive with our convertible behind him.
3. Removes the temptation to leave baby in the car seat for extended periods of time. Sure, there are times where it would have been awesome for my baby to stay asleep a little longer after falling asleep in the car, but really a car seat is intended for use in the car and just because something is commonplace (like leaving baby is car seat outside the car for extended periods of time) doesn’t mean it is healthy. Easier to not have the temptation.

Reasons I hate infant bucket seats:
1. They are bulky, awkward, and much heavier than just carrying the baby. I am an avid babywearer, but seriously even just holding the baby in my arms walking to and from the car is preferable IMO to carrying the car seat.
2. They take up so much space inside. Again- just hold/wear the baby.
3. If you aren’t careful they can become seats of neglect. I often see babies in their infant seats on the floor, away from people, and in the winter completely covered up. For long periods of time (and often NOT asleep). My opinion of course, but I have a feeling this has contributed to the increase in flat headed babies that need helmets (an extra cost not usually covered by insurance).

Some other things to consider/responses to other peoples concerns:
1. My hospital did allow us to take her home with the convertible, but be prepared to have to explain why you can’t bring the car seat up to the room (as this is what they are used to). They just made me ride in a wheel chair holding DD until we got to the car.
2. I’ve never seen a convertible seat that didn’t come with the infant insert. I’m mostly familiar with the compact convertibles (like the Combi and the Diono), but if what someone else said is true just make sure you are not buying third party inserts as it is not considered safe to put any accessories into a car seat that weren’t made and tested by the manufacturer.
3. I’m not sure how close you live to the hospital (we were about 2 miles so technically walking distance), but remember YOU will be recovering and probably should not be walking ½ mile after just giving birth. I tore pretty badly with DD and at 1 week postpartum got a “stern talking to” for taking a short walk around our block. Apparently in the “olden days” women recovered from child birth by sitting all day with their legs crossed. Whether that is true or not my advice is to take it easy and don’t try to do too much at first. It’s easy to overdo it and that just delays your own recovery.
4. The safest car seat is one that is installed correctly. Watch lots of videos, read the instruction book, and have your work inspected. Once you get comfortable with your seat you will be able to transfer it from car to car in minutes.
5. My daughter was born in the winter in Washington D.C. While there are colder climates we managed just fine walking to and from the car (and we had no garage so car/car seat was cold). When the conditions outside were icy/snowy I had her strapped in the Ergo or Moby just in case I fell. It’s easy to wrap your coat around them if you are wearing them on your front. I personally would be much more nervous about having my baby inside a car seat completely covered up where I couldn’t see them than strapped to me where I can feel and hear them breathing. But personal preference I suppose.
6. In response to the “can’t go anywhere the first few months” without the seat this is just crazy. We took our daughter everywhere we went before she was born (eating out, church, store, etc etc) and it was never an issue. Sometimes we wore her sometimes we carried her. My baby was 9 pounds when she was born and I never felt like she was too heavy to carry in my arms for long periods of time.
7. We didn’t use a stroller until about 6 months when someone gave us one for free. I just recently bought one for walking around the neighborhood, but my 2 year old prefers to walk probably because she hasn’t really spent a lot of time in a stroller. Fine with me because like the car seat strollers are bulky (and we got a pretty compact umbrella) and a pain. I'd still rather carry her (she is almost 30 pounds and I'm 5 months pregnant) than take the stroller in the car and push it around empty because she wants to walk.
8. Someone else suggested trying the bucket seat and then you won’t want to give it up. I say ask a friend to let you carry their baby in it (and then without it) and you’ll convince yourself you need a convertible. :)

Congrats on baby and good luck! Make your decision based on what is important to you and not what others say you "must do."

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Re: Did anyone use a convertible car seat from birth?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2015, 12:56:45 AM »
So I think I need to look into the convertible brands. I didn't realize they can come with infant inserts - I was confused because the ones I'm looking at say rated for 5 pounds + [with a length requirement as well - we're both 6' so I'm assuming our baby will be likely be long] but look like an infant would get lost in them.

Yes, a little baby will look comically small in a convertible, even with an infant insert. But those seats have been tested with newborns (well, newborn crash test dummies and sensors) so they are still safe.

A big upvote for the planned baby wearing from me! We owned a free cycle jogger stellar for a few months and never really used it. I used my Moby and Ergo carriers everyday for over 2 years. In fact, I carried my almost 5 year old in an Ergo while we were in Lisbon this summer!

Pack a white towel or sheet in the car for the summer months. You'll want to cover the seat to keep the seat, and especially the buckles, from getting too hot.