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"Sense of Community" Activity for Daughter
« on: September 19, 2016, 12:30:19 PM »
Hi,
I have question regarding my  9 years, 10 months old daughter. MY wife believes the daughter needs to join an organization with a sense of community. The daughter is already very active in little league & girl scouts. We live just outside of a large east coast city. Can anyone recommend a nonreligious organization that fosters a strong sense of community?

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 12:35:30 PM »
Can you elaborate on  what your wife is looking for that's not available with your daughter's current activities?

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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 12:40:30 PM »
Ya, I'd say those two activities are pretty perfect.  I was going to suggest Girl Scouts.

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 12:48:03 PM »
Those activities sound great. Do you and your wife feel a sense of community with the activities that you participate in? Are you trying to foster an overall sense of community because its missing in your collective lives?

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 01:27:12 PM »
Hi everybody,
She believes that people who participate regularly in activities put forward by a church, synagogue, etc. experience a degree of community found in few other places in society. (I'm antisocial so I'm not having issues with this LOL). I think she believes such organizations foster closer friendships than simply being in school with peers.

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 01:42:43 PM »
Perhaps a Unitarian Church would be up your alley?

Some are more "churchy" than others, but they don't have a specific religion that they follow or preach so they can appeal to people are looking for a church but are no longer christian. We've tried out our local one and I don't enjoy the services, but the people involved are great.


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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 01:59:27 PM »
Perhaps a Unitarian Church would be up your alley?

Some are more "churchy" than others, but they don't have a specific religion that they follow or preach so they can appeal to people are looking for a church but are no longer christian. We've tried out our local one and I don't enjoy the services, but the people involved are great.
Thanks for the recommendation. However, as mentioned, we are looking to go religion-free. So, everyone please keep the ideas coming.

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 03:03:51 PM »
If the Unitarians(!) are too religious for you, you're in for a hard time finding something for someone your daughter's age. Are you sure you're familiar enough with them? Outside small-town New England, they're mostly atheists & agnostics looking for something to do on Sunday morning.

Otherwise, try "Ethical Culture" and "humanist" as searchable local keywords.

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2016, 03:04:41 PM »
A few places have ethical humanist societies- but they are not very common.

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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2016, 03:19:41 PM »
The Unitarian church was great for our atheist family.  Even now my college age daughter wants to stop by for a service when she is in town, to say hello to the many people who were part of her childhood.
I had a great sense of community with my Girl Scout troop growing up.  We worked hard and planned week long camping trips, where we did all the food purchasing, food prep, etc..  But my daughter's experience was quite different.  Everything was adult organized and paid for by parents. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2016, 04:16:42 PM »
I think much of the sense if community found in religious groups comes from family participation vs just child and the interaction with people of all ages. There are not many non religious such groups, at least not in my area. Maybe try to cultivate more community with her girl scout troop families? Weekly visits to a nursing home, with the girl scouts and their parents,  may allow you all to build relationships with another generation?

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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2016, 06:24:27 AM »
If Girl Scouts are like Girl Guides in Canada, I don't think you can do much better than that in terms of fostering a sense of community.  The program is all about community, personal morals, teamwork, etc. 

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2016, 06:30:06 AM »
Volunteer as a family.


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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 06:46:11 AM »
If those 2 activities are not enough(why aren't they enough?), Volunteer.  Some places:


food bank
homeless shelter
nursing home
community garden
humane society or pet shelter
train a service pet
habitat for humanity
your local library (a reader, book cleaner, etc.)
Many of our towns and cities have a tourism bureau.  Many need volunteers.

The Lion's Club does some great work.  If there is not a chapter near you, how about you start one :)
http://www.lionsclubs.org/EN/index.php

If you want her to also learn something along the way, I have been a member of FIRST for 10 years.  It is a robotics organization that promotes student interest in STEM.  She would by of age for LEGO, which just started the season about a month ago.  Their site has a place to go to meet a team near you, or start one.
http://www.firstinspires.org/robotics/fll
 







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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2016, 02:12:17 PM »
I think much of the sense if community found in religious groups comes from family participation vs just child and the interaction with people of all ages. There are not many non religious such groups, at least not in my area. Maybe try to cultivate more community with her girl scout troop families? Weekly visits to a nursing home, with the girl scouts and their parents,  may allow you all to build relationships with another generation?

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Thanks, I like your points about the family as a whole participating & people of different ages being involved.

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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2016, 08:59:38 PM »
What about Sierra Club or another conservation group? These groups have a mission that is all about a higher purpose (being part of nature, respecting the earth, conserving resources for future generations). I think they would be particularly valuable for us atheist families, as nature is a beautiful, casual, and very natural/intuitive way to easily teach your children about the BIG stuff (where we come from, what we are meant to do, caring for others) without religion or gods. I'm pretty sure most local groups schedule things like group hikes and volunteer activities such as picking up litter and planting native plants.
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2016, 09:26:46 PM »
I would heartily recommend a local 4H chapter. Many think of 4H being only for rural kids, but we had an urban club and it was a significant part of my childhood. I learned so many unusual and useful skills and was exposed to great things in that organization.

Are you into nature as a family? See if your state conservation department has a Master Naturalist group. Our MO one was actually just mentioned recently on The Daily Show, oddly enough! The whole family might be able to join and I would say my experience in our local chapter has been the closest thing to church-like community I have had outside of a church in my life.

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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2016, 10:01:34 PM »
Perhaps a Unitarian Church would be up your alley?

Oh sweet Jesus, no. I was forced to attend UU church about the same age as the OP's kid when my mother got the same bug up her ass the OP's wife has. I hated it, and to this day cant say much good anout UU's since I remember them being as sanctimonious as any true believers. And childrens' Sunday School sucked, I hated giving up Sunday mornings.

I wasnt a joiner as a child, I was and am still an introvert. I was steered into every activity by my mother. at least, I remember it that way.I DO remember  having fun in Girl Scouts, piano lessons were ok and I became fairly competent, but Rainbow Girls was another idiocy my mother seemed to think was part of that "community building" thing.

But miraculously, as an adult, I became a joiner because I found organizations that really interested me. As an adult I am very active in several plant and neighborhood organizations because they center on my areas of interest:  gardening and  my historic neighborhood.

Those generalized activities that kids do--Church activities, Scouting, etc may be OK, but they don't really cater to a specific interest. so OP I,would ask your daughter: what interests her? And does she want to give up free time to participate in do-gooder activities in the community, or will she see that as just another chore?

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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2016, 10:15:23 PM »
I would heartily recommend a local 4H chapter. Many think of 4H being only for rural kids, but we had an urban club and it was a significant part of my childhood. I learned so many unusual and useful skills and was exposed to great things in that organization.

Are you into nature as a family? See if your state conservation department has a Master Naturalist group. Our MO one was actually just mentioned recently on The Daily Show, oddly enough! The whole family might be able to join and I would say my experience in our local chapter has been the closest thing to church-like community I have had outside of a church in my life.

Agreed that if you can find a greenie group that is a good cohesive, healthy group  (no infighting etc.) with a children's program, that would be great! The American 
Iris Society, for instance, welcomes youth and has special programs for kids. We have had children hybridizng iris!

But it comes down to what interests your daughter.  I think it is critically important to encourage her in activities that grab her imagination and interest. It teaches her to go out into the community and find a group of peers, rather than joining up with just any general group of humans who will then dictate axtivites of the group where she simply follows along, without much real passion.

I guess these two posts of mine finally got to the real point: help your kid find her passions. The self actualized successfully FIRED citizen here  keeps busy carrying out that which they love doing. Workong with community organizations is usually part of that.
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2016, 10:46:43 PM »
Gotta jump on the "do stuff as a family" bandwagon. Community doesn't happen if it's just the kids doing the work.

Our local (public) K-8 school was our community hub. Service learning was a huge part of the curriculum for the kids, but we parents really got roped in too. It wasn't just PTA meetings: teaching mini classes, chaperoning overnights, running fundraisers, pulling invasive plants, agitating for political change, making food for families in need...we all learned new things. (That list doesn't look joyful as I read it, but we really had a bunch of fun working hard and getting to know other families.) Hard to believe that both kids enjoyed middle school...I didn't know that was possible, but I think when families work together for goals that benefit some "greater good" everyone wins. This is especially true for middle schoolers. They sometimes need help pulling their attention out from their own navels.

Don't be afraid to go deep with your commitments. You never know what you will learn when you say YES. (But also know when to say "I'm not the one for that job, but thanks for thinking of me!" )

The Unitarians were great for our family, though we are not currently attending. I especially appreciated their OWL (Our Whole Lives) program. I think other people on this forum have talked about this...it's a thoughtful, non-shaming sex ed with an inclusive sense of family. It prompted excellent discussions with my kids.

What does your daughter enjoy doing? What is she curious about? What issues does she get indignant and upset about? Follow her passions and help her get nerdy about the things she cares about.




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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2016, 01:24:58 PM »
Sounds like it's your wife who feels she's not part of a community. Maybe she should join some sort of club? I bet the PTA would be a good fit. Then she and your DD would have the school community and you can stay home ;-)

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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2016, 02:18:22 PM »
Sounds like it's your wife who feels she's not part of a community. Maybe she should join some sort of club? I bet the PTA would be a good fit. Then she and your DD would have the school community and you can stay home ;-)
Hi,
She is working on a school committee subcommitee, co-leading a Girl Scout Juniors troop, & occasionally coaching little league. she is also starting a part-time kiddie-related business. I think she is over committed with kiddie stuff at this point. Perhaps she is over compensating for a perceived lack of connection?

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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2016, 03:24:46 PM »
Sounds like it's your wife who feels she's not part of a community. Maybe she should join some sort of club? I bet the PTA would be a good fit. Then she and your DD would have the school community and you can stay home ;-)
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She is working on a school committee subcommitee, co-leading a Girl Scout Juniors troop, & occasionally coaching little league. she is also starting a part-time kiddie-related business. I think she is over committed with kiddie stuff at this point. Perhaps she is over compensating for a perceived lack of connection?

Agree that this sounds like it is more about your wife's needs than your daughter. It also might be her realization that at 9 or 10, your daughter is growing up and her feeling the need to cram in all "girlhood" or community activities now.

In my experience, having 1 or 2 activities that you are truly committed and devoted to - and share with others - is what builds communities. Having more "things" on your calendar actually causes the opposite, because you are always overbooked, stressed, and lacking free time to get together with the people you are sharing these activities with (which helps build more meaningful relationships).

What does your daughter think? Have you and your wife asked her what activities she enjoys & whether you should make changes?

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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2016, 07:12:04 AM »
Sounds like it's your wife who feels she's not part of a community. Maybe she should join some sort of club? I bet the PTA would be a good fit. Then she and your DD would have the school community and you can stay home ;-)
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She is working on a school committee subcommitee, co-leading a Girl Scout Juniors troop, & occasionally coaching little league. she is also starting a part-time kiddie-related business. I think she is over committed with kiddie stuff at this point. Perhaps she is over compensating for a perceived lack of connection?

Agree that this sounds like it is more about your wife's needs than your daughter. It also might be her realization that at 9 or 10, your daughter is growing up and her feeling the need to cram in all "girlhood" or community activities now.

In my experience, having 1 or 2 activities that you are truly committed and devoted to - and share with others - is what builds communities. Having more "things" on your calendar actually causes the opposite, because you are always overbooked, stressed, and lacking free time to get together with the people you are sharing these activities with (which helps build more meaningful relationships).

What does your daughter think? Have you and your wife asked her what activities she enjoys & whether you should make changes?
Hi,
The daughter is pretty team-oriented. She loves scouts & baseball. My sense is she'd be happy to participate in any number of team-type activities without considering the consequences of being overloaded.

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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2016, 07:59:15 AM »
I would heartily recommend a local 4H chapter. Many think of 4H being only for rural kids, but we had an urban club and it was a significant part of my childhood. I learned so many unusual and useful skills and was exposed to great things in that organization.

Are you into nature as a family? See if your state conservation department has a Master Naturalist group. Our MO one was actually just mentioned recently on The Daily Show, oddly enough! The whole family might be able to join and I would say my experience in our local chapter has been the closest thing to church-like community I have had outside of a church in my life.

Agreed that if you can find a greenie group that is a good cohesive, healthy group  (no infighting etc.) with a children's program, that would be great! The American 
Iris Society, for instance, welcomes youth and has special programs for kids. We have had children hybridizng iris!

But it comes down to what interests your daughter.  I think it is critically important to encourage her in activities that grab her imagination and interest. It teaches her to go out into the community and find a group of peers, rather than joining up with just any general group of humans who will then dictate axtivites of the group where she simply follows along, without much real passion.

I guess these two posts of mine finally got to the real point: help your kid find her passions. The self actualized successfully FIRED citizen here  keeps busy carrying out that which they love doing. Workong with community organizations is usually part of that.

Totally agree! It was actually 4-H that helped me find some of my passions. I never did scouts, but I imagine it might be similar in that we got to pick multiple "courses" or projects each year and then we had a county-wide competition at the end of the year and if your project got a purple ribbon, it went on to the state fair. While the rural clubs were raising rabbits and pigs, our "city" club got to pick from projects like rocketry, ceramics, electricity, clowning, woodworking, glass etching, crocheting, engines, sewing, tin punch, public speaking, cooking, cake decorating, child care skills, paper making, etc. It was nice because it seemed like we could choose a variety of projects that that might be traditionally geared towards boys or girls but anyone could take them, regardless of gender. Now, I suppose the variety of courses available to any particular club would be limited to the availability of locals able to teach those topics (a lot of them were taught by parents of members with these skills), but all those courses I mentioned were available to us in our little town of 25,000 people and we weren't the only chapter in town.

I gained many life skills, artistic skills and really developed myself as a youngster, I felt. Monthly meetings always featured a special guest speaker from the community that ranged from local authors, foreign exchange students, the mayor, a police officer or other public officials, artists, musicians, historians and wildlife conservation agents (this was always my favorite because they would bring a rehabilitated hawk or owl they would fly over our heads...one of the major experiences that inspired me to a lifelong passion for conservation). They also promote civic development and when you get older you have the opportunity to go on this trip that at the time was called "Citizenship Washington Focus" where you travel on a charter bus with other 4-Hers from around the country to Washington, D.C. and see all the historical sites and participate in a leadership conference.

4-H in my experience was very community oriented. Since so many courses were led by parents, all the families got to know each other pretty well and we made a lot of friends over the years. It was also not very expensive (chapters are often supported through local county extension offices) and we didn't have to sell any cookies or popcorn!

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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2016, 09:22:06 PM »
See if your area has a "sunday assembly" group.  Basically church without god, 100% atheist.

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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2016, 08:45:59 AM »
If the Unitarians(!) are too religious for you, you're in for a hard time finding something for someone your daughter's age. Are you sure you're familiar enough with them? Outside small-town New England, they're mostly atheists & agnostics looking for something to do on Sunday morning.

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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2016, 10:41:56 AM »
See if your area has a "sunday assembly" group.  Basically church without god, 100% atheist.
That's an interesting concept.

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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2016, 11:29:31 AM »
See if your area has a "sunday assembly" group.  Basically church without god, 100% atheist.
That's an interesting concept.

I have to admit I haven't actually been but I have a few friends that go regularly.  They set it up pretty much like a normal progressive church service; there's a band and some singing, followed by somebody giving a speech on a topic like community service or something (local comedians, activists, etc.  it's rotating instead of having one 'pastor' or person in charge).  Followed by coffee and donuts and chatting with the other attendees. The exact setup probably depends on the specific group too but I think their entire goal is to fulfill the need of people that want a 'church community' without god.  I know our local one only meets once a month with some interest group meetings in between, so it's not as big as a real church but it's something.
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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2016, 11:43:57 AM »
Hahaha, trying to fulfill the 'need for church' without a god... Something's missing there :)

Anyway,
Local adopt-a-road organization. We do a stretch near work. Only 2x per month, nice sense of accomplishment/team/community. Lots of such organizations out there! Try local Chamber of Commerce.

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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2016, 11:56:11 AM »
Hahaha, trying to fulfill the 'need for church' without a god... Something's missing there :)

Respectfully, for an atheist, there's something missing from every church, given that god(s) do not exist. That doesn't diminish the very real social benefits that churches provide, and it's perfectly reasonable for atheists and agnostics to seek the same connections without the offensive doctrine.

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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2016, 12:05:03 PM »
Hahaha, trying to fulfill the 'need for church' without a god... Something's missing there :)


Its as if athiests and agnostics could possibly form a community whose goal is for the greater good. Preposterous.

I like this Sunday Assembly idea. It sounds like what I wanted the Unitarian Church to be.

Ultimately, what helped us gain a sense of community was to have a really good group of friends with children the same age as ours. Basically, we became a better part of the community. This involves spending time with friends, attending neighborhood events, working the the local neighborhood association, volunteering with the school, etc. Basically, my kid's sense of community is still an extension of my sense of community. But she's 4, so I imagine this will change as she gets older and starts to want her own identity in the community.

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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2016, 12:35:24 PM »
Hahaha, trying to fulfill the 'need for church' without a god... Something's missing there :)

Anyway,
Local adopt-a-road organization. We do a stretch near work. Only 2x per month, nice sense of accomplishment/team/community. Lots of such organizations out there! Try local Chamber of Commerce.
I agree, I cant grok the need for a church community without god. I am not a believer and I dont  get it.

Maybe I just see SO MANY opportunities for community fellowship, learning, sharing. Especially in my city, a culturally rich old city (St. Louis) there are lectures and programs and and book discussions and social awareness learning opportunities galore, multiple things per day. What is a UU or Ethical Society church going to offer that I cant get elsewhere? I cant see it.

But I will say that the Ethical Soceity here in St. louis has a great modern building, pretty spectacular. I went to an art show there last weekend and will be going to a concert there next month.



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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2016, 01:00:32 PM »
Hahaha, trying to fulfill the 'need for church' without a god... Something's missing there :)

Anyway,
Local adopt-a-road organization. We do a stretch near work. Only 2x per month, nice sense of accomplishment/team/community. Lots of such organizations out there! Try local Chamber of Commerce.
I agree, I cant grok the need for a church community without god. I am not a believer and I dont  get it.

Maybe I just see SO MANY opportunities for community fellowship, learning, sharing. Especially in my city, a culturally rich old city (St. Louis) there are lectures and programs and and book discussions and social awareness learning opportunities galore, multiple things per day. What is a UU or Ethical Society church going to offer that I cant get elsewhere? I cant see it.

But I will say that the Ethical Soceity here in St. louis has a great modern building, pretty spectacular. I went to an art show there last weekend and will be going to a concert there next month.

Is it necessary that you understand it in order for it to be worthwhile to others?

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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2016, 01:12:29 PM »
Hahaha, trying to fulfill the 'need for church' without a god... Something's missing there :)

Anyway,
Local adopt-a-road organization. We do a stretch near work. Only 2x per month, nice sense of accomplishment/team/community. Lots of such organizations out there! Try local Chamber of Commerce.
I agree, I cant grok the need for a church community without god. I am not a believer and I dont  get it.

Maybe I just see SO MANY opportunities for community fellowship, learning, sharing. Especially in my city, a culturally rich old city (St. Louis) there are lectures and programs and and book discussions and social awareness learning opportunities galore, multiple things per day. What is a UU or Ethical Society church going to offer that I cant get elsewhere? I cant see it.

But I will say that the Ethical Soceity here in St. louis has a great modern building, pretty spectacular. I went to an art show there last weekend and will be going to a concert there next month.

Is it necessary that you understand it in order for it to be worthwhile to others?

No, of course not. I actually value diversity, especially of ideas. But I do judge those who want a
non-god centered Sunday A.M. churchy experience as probably being devoid of imagination. Same judgement for those who dont retire because they cant imagne what they would do with all of that free time. Cant grok their POV, either.

Keep in mind I had my UU experience with non believers who couldnt pat themselves on the back hard enough for being in church without the "offenive doctrine" as they were clearly superior beings. Little did they know that they set up a lifetime of distain from me, so much for their lack of offense.
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Re: "Sense of Community" Activity for Daughter
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2016, 01:39:30 PM »
But I do judge those who want a non-god centered Sunday A.M. churchy experience as probably being devoid of imagination.

That's a fair criticism. I've never attended a UU church or any similar secular organizations, but as someone who grew up in a devoutly religious family and gained a great deal of positive personal fulfillment and community bonding from that experience, I certainly can see why one might want a church-like community without the requirement to accept a specific doctrine. I have only come to accept my own agnosticism in the past couple of years after fighting it for most of my adult life, and the one thing that I truly miss is the sense of community and common purpose that I found when I was an active member of a church. The weekly routine of the church service was a vital part of that attachment. I'm sorry UU didn't provide that for you, but it sounds as though others are getting something positive out of it.

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Re: "Sense of Community" Activity for Daughter
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2016, 06:29:38 PM »
I was going to suggest Scouts.  Guess you already have that covered!


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Re: "Sense of Community" Activity for Daughter
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2016, 12:19:34 PM »
I've done UU at a couple of congregations because my husband went through a phase where it interested him, but we are both atheists.  It was not my thing, but I can see where it could be great for lots of non-religious people.  Re the Sunday morning, it's likely to be the one time people aren't already scheduled.  This is particularly true if you have kids who are in extra-curricular activities.  The ministered I encountered in UU were mostly highly educated, interesting and articulate.  Even if it didn't appeal to me, I nearly always came away with something to think about. They also had excellent musicians come in.

I'm at a loss as to what the OP's wife is really trying to get at with this.  I was raised in a very religious family (Catholic) and never got any sense of community out of it and we did no service activities at all.  I don't see why Girl Scouts wouldn't fit the bill perfectly.

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Re: "Sense of Community" Activity for Daughter
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2016, 03:48:40 PM »
I've done UU at a couple of congregations because my husband went through a phase where it interested him, but we are both atheists.  It was not my thing, but I can see where it could be great for lots of non-religious people.  Re the Sunday morning, it's likely to be the one time people aren't already scheduled.  This is particularly true if you have kids who are in extra-curricular activities.  The ministered I encountered in UU were mostly highly educated, interesting and articulate.  Even if it didn't appeal to me, I nearly always came away with something to think about. They also had excellent musicians come in.

I'm at a loss as to what the OP's wife is really trying to get at with this.  I was raised in a very religious family (Catholic) and never got any sense of community out of it and we did no service activities at all.  I don't see why Girl Scouts wouldn't fit the bill perfectly.
Girl Scouts seems fine to me too. I think she had a childhood where she moved a few times & went to a school where the kids weren't nice to her & she felt left out. I imagine she wants her kids to feel more connected to their peers. I don't see her or me being enthusiastic about service activities. It's not that we don't care about making the world a better place. Rather, our finances are terrible. (Long story worthy of a case study.) We need to be focusing on bringing in additional revenue  & cutting costs.

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Re: "Sense of Community" Activity for Daughter
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2016, 05:15:40 PM »
I haven't bonded with our local Unitarian community (too churchy) but I know others from the east coast who identify as atheist but loved their Unitarian youth group and didn't feel any religious pressure or even influence. Maybe worth a try?

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Re: "Sense of Community" Activity for Daughter
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2016, 05:21:45 PM »
Other ideas: volunteer groups, trail building, waldorf groups, hiking groups, workshops for a hobby and try to start a group, summer camp friends, start a playgroup with other likeminded families. I really wish there was an atheist church equivalent for exactly this reason. The Unitarians in my area are just liberal Christians, which is fine but not my cup of tea. I have friends on the east coast who loved UU youth group though and said it wasn’t churchy for them.

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Re: "Sense of Community" Activity for Daughter
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2016, 06:11:16 PM »
My wife and 14 yo son facilitate an english as a second language conversation class at the local library.  Not affiliated with a church or belief system but loads of community.

 

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