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What is your Asset Allocation of investments for use to be financially Independent?

100% VTI baby
19 (38%)
80/20 or 60/40 etc.  Auto-rebalanced, set it and forget it
24 (48%)
Dump all savings into rental properties - landlording is best way for high ROI
0 (0%)
My Investment Statement says I'm "X", but I actually invest sporadically all over the place
6 (12%)
Stocks and bonds are doomed - all my savings in Savings account making 0.5% interest
1 (2%)

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Voting closed: April 06, 2022, 10:29:27 AM

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What is your Asset Allocation and why
« on: March 30, 2022, 10:29:27 AM »
Interested in what your Investment Policy Statement contains, what your defined Asset Allocation is, and the years expected for your savings to support you?

Its easy to generate a AA, but question if people are actually living it out, or spending endless hours buying/selling, options, alternative investments, etc.  Do you have 1 investment account at fidelity/vanguard? Or have 10 accounts for every good idea out there to diversify and chase higher returns?

Also, good to know if your AA is savings of core holding that you plan to use to retire for 10/20/50 years, or savings is part of your retirement plan (pension and Social Security Income provide solid basis, and investments are bonus).

How Long do you need to live off your investments, and do you plan to change AA over time? If so, what are those milestones.

How has the last few years changed your outlook or changed your investment allocation?

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2022, 10:55:33 AM »
I used to be in the 100% VTI club but recently adjusted based on the Portfolio Charts discussion and reading some books on it. I believe there's some magic to inverse correlation and you can capture some of it with more asset classes. Also I got honest about my risk tolerance and true financial goals are.

Currently:
55% Total Stock Market (VTI)
15% SCV
10% Ex-US
5% Long Term Bond
5% Intermediate Term Bond
5% REIT
5% Gold

Debating a move of some VTI into TQQQ(triple nasdaq) for more inverse relationship with the Bonds/REIT/Gold. I wish this had deeper back-testing.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2022, 11:13:51 AM »
Over 90% all-stock index funds, so I put 100% VTI as my answer as it’s the closest.
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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2022, 11:17:46 AM »
I'm 100% stocks, 80/20 domestic/international, which is both what my IPS says, and what I follow.  I actually just rebalanced this week because international went below 19%, so i sold/bought within my IRA to bring it back to 20.  I was 100% domestic, but everything I've read said 20-40% international is a good idea, and I couldn't find much saying it's a BAD idea, so i took the lower end of the spectrum and changed my allocation and policy.

I'm still accumulating.  Haven't quite figured out what my allocation will be for retirement.  Conventional wisdom tells me I should do 80/20 stock/bond split, but bonds aren't inversely/uncorrelated enough for me.  Maybe LTT.  Maybe crypto+gold. I have a little BTC I bought for cheap before it's first craze, and if it keeps going up it's going to be a high enough percentage of my portfolio that I'll have to make a decision about it.  And I like the lack of correlation of gold to stocks, as well as the added doomsday protection they offer, but the costs involved in buying and selling are shit.  I've been thinking 80/10/5/5 stock/ltt/btc/gold, but while I'm ok selling BTC once it passes 5% of my portfolio, I don't think I'd also buy it when it drops, so I'm not putting it on my IPS, which tells me I should probably just think of it as gravy and will probably just do a 80/20 stock/ltt split.

This will be my entire retirement income (no pension).

*Edited for bad math
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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2022, 11:35:08 AM »
Interested in what your Investment Policy Statement contains, what your defined Asset Allocation is, and the years expected for your savings to support you?

My IPS says that I'm 90% global market cap weighted equities (or close to: EM is tricky) and 10% YOLO. In practice I'm 99% global market cap weighted. I reserve the right to change my IPS, obviously.

Not sure which years it will support me. In December 2029 I'm quitting my job, leaving the USA, and taking a long sabbatical. I may or may not want to ever work again. I shouldn't "need" to work again in the sense of living indoors and eating food.
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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2022, 01:29:56 PM »
My advisor is more conservative than I am, which is a good thing.  When I almost FIRE’d in December 2020, I moved from 80/20 (at age 40) to 60/40.  I ultimately decided not to FIRE, and I now plan to continue my career until full retirement age (49 in 2029).  Upon returning to work, I did not, however, revert to an 80/20 portfolio.  I am keeping this AA.  Is it conservative?  That depends on your perspective.  My advisor won’t make plans projecting anything better than 2% real growth moving forward.  And that’s why I hired him. 

What do I believe myself?  I am pessimistic about the future in a way I never was in the past.  I don’t see this coming generation of Americans living in a society that is anywhere near as prosperous or economically-fair as the one I grew up in.  I believe our best days are behind us.  Of course, America is a still a net exporter of trends, technology, culture, etc., and I don’t mean that I see that reality ending soon, but I really doubt we’re ever again going to have a situation like the 1950’s that people seem to love to pine about nowadays -- where a high-school-educated worker could be a home owner and could support a family of five on a single income. 

Yes, the past few years have changed my outlook.  I honestly believe that tougher times lie ahead.  Perhaps much tougher.  I already see signs of it.  I see people around me expressing things I never remember hearing as a child… but I do remember reading about in the lived experiences of past generations of Americans – things like feelings of envy and resentment over access to quality meat, for example.  I have literally recently heard someone express envy toward someone else because that other person had regular access to good cuts of meat. 

To be clear, the crises of the past several years have exacerbated and accelerated these trends, but I think the writing has been on the wall since I was a child.

I remember, as a child in the 1980’s, how foreign and incomprehensible early 20th century cartoons were to me – in terms of societal norms.  There was a real cultural gap that needed to be overcome in order for the cartoons to make sense to me.  For example, I remember an early 20th century cartoon depicting a person’s house with the whole neighborhood lined up outside of his door, with the caption “He roasted a goose!”  That cartoon made absolutely no sense to me until someone explained it:  if you had a goose to roast at that time, it meant you were very rich or experiencing abundance, and since most people couldn’t eat goose regularly, they would show up in a queue if they heard you were roasting one.  I thought that was preposterous.  You see, I remember stores practically giving frozen turkeys away when I was a kid.  I remember families where every household roasted a turkey for Thanksgiving just because they thought they had to, even though everyone ate at grandma’s.  So entire birds got thrown away.  I remember my own family throwing away pounds of turkey because even the dogs and cats got sick of it after a while. 

Well… as a 40-something-year-old in the 2020’s, the situations depicted in those early 20th century cartoons are no longer preposterous to me.  In fact, I believe we are hurtling backwards toward those times.  I personally know of several families that changed their holiday meat choices due to cost last year.  Granted, 2020 and 2021 were exceptional, but again, I don’t think it’s a flash in the pan phenomenon.  In the probably-not-too-distant future, you are going to hear people bragging about being able to eat turkey and steak.  I think mid-21st century kids will be able to laugh at many of those early 20th century cartoons without needing the cultural translation that us late 20th century kids needed… because their world will be more similar to the robber baron era than to the world I grew up in.  I might be too pessimistic in this regard, but that’s all a longwinded way to say that I see value in a 60/40 portfolio.  It has the ingredients for growth, but also a portion of mitigating fixed income to weather ups and downs when I am drawing down.

My feelings about the future notwithstanding, what really matter are my risk profile and my goals.  I will receive a federal pension upon retirement that will likely provide half or more of my income needs.  A lot of people consider the pension as a part of one’s fixed income position because it plays a similar role:  to provide regular, steady income as safely as possible.  Does that mean I could go 100% stocks… and consider my portfolio a 50/50 portfolio?  And since I will be retiring at 49, that means I potentially have a 40-year retirement (or perhaps even longer, although I doubt it).  All the more reason to go with 100% stocks, right?  I will need the growth potential.

Or will I?  I have a federal pension waiting in the wings, which will kick in on the day I retire.  Isn’t that an invitation to assume less risk?  If my pension really can provide half or more of my income needs in retirement -- and I have enough in my portfolios to provide the other half – would it then be wiser for me to focus on wealth preservation rather than growth potential, especially given my pessimism regarding the future?  Should I not, then, focus on making my investments more conservative because I do not need to assume the additional risk?  Maybe 50/50 is better… maybe 40/60 is even better!

I am going to lean conservative because I am bearish on the future and feeling as risk averse as I have ever been, understanding that a portfolio must provide growth potential during a long retirement (unless one is a HNWI with eight figures in the bank or something like that).  This is a matter of my values, my goals, my risk profile, and what I believe about the world around me (and what will happen to that world in the future).  I write that while noting that some, such as my advisor -- who are even more bearish and risk-averse than I -- would call my 60/40 portfolio (with the federal pension locked and loaded) to be unnecessarily risky.  I understand that this MMM crowd skews a little more “exuberant,” as they say, and probably views my portfolio as risk-averse.  May the gods smile on all of us.

As for how many accounts I have, I have two:  a TSP account and a Vanguard account.  About 10% of my portfolio is in a Roth IRA, about 40% in taxable, and about 50% in TSP.  100% of my funds are in low-cost index funds (with the exception of my checking and savings accounts, which are in cash).  I do not necessarily have all the same funds in different accounts, but I consider my entire portfolio across both accounts as a single entity, the AA of which currently stands at about 60/40.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2022, 01:36:24 PM »
Not nearly enough choices

80/20 scv/LTT not auto rebalanced.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2022, 04:16:52 PM »
50% US Total Market
25% US Small Cap Value
25% US Intermediate Treasuries

Trying to keep it simple, but its difficult to stay the course.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2022, 04:41:15 PM »
Series I Savings Bonds — max that at 10k per year.  Buy dips in market with it as needed over the years. Put rest into VTI.
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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2022, 11:03:18 AM »
100% stocks, about 60/40 US/international. <3% in yolo individual stocks
Have around 10k in I-bonds, and would like to add more as an emergency fund. But I keep buying stocks so need to save up some cash first..

Why? Because I see no point in bonds. Not really in general, and definitely not now! I'm probably 10 years from FIRE, might change as I get closer, either a) bonds look better then, or b) some alternative..? (RE?)

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2022, 11:09:51 AM »
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Why? Because I see no point in bonds. Not really in general, and definitely not now! I'm probably 10 years from FIRE, might change as I get closer, either a) bonds look better then, or b) some alternative..? (RE?)

I've posted about this before but here goes.
I highly recommend people consider having a bond/CD ladder for a few years when they approach their retirement date. Not bond funds, actual individual US government bonds/bills, iBonds, CDs. That way you know what you will get when they mature, you are not subject to losses if your fellow fund holders sell.

This helps buffer any reaction to the market dropping because you know you have the next 3-5 years of living expenses in a "risk-free" ladder. I've helped quite a few clients transition to living off their portfolio using a ladder and it really helps.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2022, 12:28:30 PM »
Why? Because I see no point in bonds. Not really in general, and definitely not now! I'm probably 10 years from FIRE, might change as I get closer, either a) bonds look better then, or b) some alternative..? (RE?)

What if on April 15th next month, the May 1st "Series I Savings Bond" composite interest rate is announced to be 7.9%?   You'd have a guaranteed (7.12+7.9)/2 = 7.51% return for the next 12 months on $10k ($20k if married), if you bought them between April 15 and April 30.

Definitely not now? Seems like the best time to me.  Good chance it outperforms the stock market over the next year I would guess.  But perhaps the $10k is such a small portion of your overall portfolio and it doesn't matter much in that case.
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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2022, 12:39:05 PM »
Why? Because I see no point in bonds. Not really in general, and definitely not now! I'm probably 10 years from FIRE, might change as I get closer, either a) bonds look better then, or b) some alternative..? (RE?)

What if on April 15th next month, the May 1st "Series I Savings Bond" composite interest rate is announced to be 7.9%?   You'd have a guaranteed (7.12+7.9)/2 = 7.51% return for the next 12 months on $10k ($20k if married), if you bought them between April 15 and April 30.

Definitely not now? Seems like the best time to me.  Good chance it outperforms the stock market over the next year I would guess.  But perhaps the $10k is such a small portion of your overall portfolio and it doesn't matter much in that case.

Glad you've got a crystal ball saying that's going to be better than the stock market

With 10 years to fire no reason to own bonds.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2022, 12:50:40 PM »
I picked the 80/20 option, because it's the closest.

I follow our IPS -- we're 80% globally weighted equities (approx) and 20% bonds and cash.  We were 90/10 for a long time, but we're getting near FIRE and I'm planning to pay off our house in ~3.5 years, so we're holding more bonds / cash.  We also spend in CAD but have most of our investments in USD, so having a cash buffer allows us to avoid currency swings.  Like others, we're currently using I Bonds ($40K as of today).  Very recently (within the last month) I added a 5% SCV tilt to our equities.  Maybe it's too small to matter, and I may increase it, but I'm leery of making a big swing.  It's split between AVUS, AVDV and AVEV.  And I don't auto-rebalance.  I do it manually, quarterly.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2022, 01:04:03 PM »
Mine says this:
Buy and hold appreciating and income producing assets - Never own more than 5 individual stocks - 5 REITs - 5 Index ETF/Funds - 5 Specialty ETF/Funds - Own as much income producing real estate as feasible while maintaining liquidity and leverage requirements - Draw only dividends and cash flow during retirement as possible.

Income producing real estate assets 40-60% of Net Worth leveraged at <60% LTV
Liquid Investable Assets 40-60% of Net Worth
-Large Cap US Equity 30-45%
-Mid/Small Cap US Equity 15-25%
-International Equity 15-25%
-REITs 0-15%
-Conventional Bonds 0-10%
-Inflation Protected Bonds 0-10%
-Individual Stocks 0-20%
-Fixed Income from Loans 0-20%
-Cash 5-20%

Right now my RE to Market Equities ratio is within range but my individual stock allocation has been blown out of the water by Tesla over the past couple of years.  When it first started to run back in 2020, I sold enough to get back my original investment and have let the rest ride, throwing my asset allocation way off during its runup from about $50/share to over $1000/share.  If I throw out that 'free' Tesla stock, I am within range for the rest of my portfolio, but no bonds until I hit my FI target.  I treat those leftover tesla shares like owning a classic car, I dont drive it much, but sure like looking at it.

My why is that it seems to make the most sense to me for my targets and goals.  Over the next 7 years, our stache will increase and our spending will decrease with our last 4 kids going away to college on their 529 funds leaving us fully financially independent.  I think/hope it will naturally feel like a good time to transition away from W-2 work.  Whether I do something more for self-employment work will depend on what happens.  A couple of my kids have big aspirations to be landlords, so it might be a natural transition to consulting, supporting and/or investing in some of their future endeavors.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2022, 01:06:06 PM »
Why? Because I see no point in bonds. Not really in general, and definitely not now! I'm probably 10 years from FIRE, might change as I get closer, either a) bonds look better then, or b) some alternative..? (RE?)

What if on April 15th next month, the May 1st "Series I Savings Bond" composite interest rate is announced to be 7.9%?   You'd have a guaranteed (7.12+7.9)/2 = 7.51% return for the next 12 months on $10k ($20k if married), if you bought them between April 15 and April 30.

Definitely not now? Seems like the best time to me.  Good chance it outperforms the stock market over the next year I would guess.  But perhaps the $10k is such a small portion of your overall portfolio and it doesn't matter much in that case.

Well I meant bond funds. With all the limitations I consider I-bonds something different, more emergency fund/cash. Yes only 10k per year is rather limited, rebalancing in and out of them is a hassle, can't own in tax sheltered account etc. I just bought 2k worth actually, and will try to get more before 4/30. 

You're very excited about i-bonds (you've made something like three threads about it..), and yes they're a good deal right now. But do remember that for something like 10 years, up until 6 months ago they yielded 1.5% - 3%. While the S&P grew 20%+ (yes ofc we couldn't know that ahead of time, but still). I know because I have I-bonds from 2013.. At one point my savings account had the same yield as my I-bonds! And if inflation drops again they could be back to 3% in a year.
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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2022, 01:29:42 PM »
Why? Because I see no point in bonds. Not really in general, and definitely not now! I'm probably 10 years from FIRE, might change as I get closer, either a) bonds look better then, or b) some alternative..? (RE?)

What if on April 15th next month, the May 1st "Series I Savings Bond" composite interest rate is announced to be 7.9%?   You'd have a guaranteed (7.12+7.9)/2 = 7.51% return for the next 12 months on $10k ($20k if married), if you bought them between April 15 and April 30.

Definitely not now? Seems like the best time to me.  Good chance it outperforms the stock market over the next year I would guess.  But perhaps the $10k is such a small portion of your overall portfolio and it doesn't matter much in that case.

Well I meant bond funds. With all the limitations I consider I-bonds something different, more emergency fund/cash. Yes only 10k per year is rather limited, rebalancing in and out of them is a hassle, can't own in tax sheltered account etc. I just bought 2k worth actually, and will try to get more before 4/30. 

You're very excited about i-bonds (you've made something like three threads about it..), and yes they're a good deal right now. But do remember that for something like 10 years, up until 6 months ago they yielded 1.5% - 3%. While the S&P grew 20%+ (yes ofc we couldn't know that ahead of time, but still). I know because I have I-bonds from 2013.. At one point my savings account had the same yield as my I-bonds! And if inflation drops again they could be back to 3% in a year.

Sorry to bother you with my excessive posts.  I know I've been posting too much lately.  A bit manic about it I guess.  Soon enough I am sure I won't be posting for many months here.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2022, 02:16:23 PM »
Why? Because I see no point in bonds. Not really in general, and definitely not now! I'm probably 10 years from FIRE, might change as I get closer, either a) bonds look better then, or b) some alternative..? (RE?)

What if on April 15th next month, the May 1st "Series I Savings Bond" composite interest rate is announced to be 7.9%?   You'd have a guaranteed (7.12+7.9)/2 = 7.51% return for the next 12 months on $10k ($20k if married), if you bought them between April 15 and April 30.

Definitely not now? Seems like the best time to me.  Good chance it outperforms the stock market over the next year I would guess.  But perhaps the $10k is such a small portion of your overall portfolio and it doesn't matter much in that case.

Well I meant bond funds. With all the limitations I consider I-bonds something different, more emergency fund/cash. Yes only 10k per year is rather limited, rebalancing in and out of them is a hassle, can't own in tax sheltered account etc. I just bought 2k worth actually, and will try to get more before 4/30. 

You're very excited about i-bonds (you've made something like three threads about it..), and yes they're a good deal right now. But do remember that for something like 10 years, up until 6 months ago they yielded 1.5% - 3%. While the S&P grew 20%+ (yes ofc we couldn't know that ahead of time, but still). I know because I have I-bonds from 2013.. At one point my savings account had the same yield as my I-bonds! And if inflation drops again they could be back to 3% in a year.

Sorry to bother you with my excessive posts.  I know I've been posting too much lately.  A bit manic about it I guess.  Soon enough I am sure I won't be posting for many months here.


I'm not bothered by it, that's what the forum is for.. If there's a thread i'm not interested in I ignore it

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2022, 08:17:47 PM »
60% stock index funds
30% cryptocurrencies
8% cash
2% gold

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2022, 10:45:24 PM »
92% global index funds
5% TSLA
3% Cash and bonds

Mostly chosen for consistent long term growth. No plans to draw down until my wife finishes working.

TSLA grew from 2% of my portfolio to 20% so I sold down to the 5% it's at now.

No rental properties. Owning our own home is more than enough money in real estate.
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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2022, 03:27:25 AM »
Around 70-75% equities, FTSE All-World.
Rest in bonds, most of which was issued by our home country, sprinkled with a little bit of international.

Bonds are the emergency fund, not buying anymore anytime soon, it got filled to a certain level we were comfortable with at the beginning.
Periodic investments are going into equities each month.

Plan is to first reach the not-gonna-starve-or-freeze base level of FIRE assets which should happen around the time we reach 90/10 with this strategy.
Then using monthly contributions, taper down to around 60/40 and reach a reasonably fat FIRE number that way.
Then after we FIRE, perform a reverse equity glidepath the ERN way, i.e. spend down the bond allocation first, which should allow around another decade for the equities to grow untouched.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2022, 04:56:24 AM »
Not nearly enough choices
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Agree, and I gotta say I don’t care for poll responses that editorialize reasons behind them.  Pet peeve I suppose.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2022, 07:24:07 AM »
I chose 100% VTI. I'm actually 90-95% VTSAX and similar total market investments in TSP, IRAs and Taxable account.

We keep a chunk of cash, but aren't drawing from our retirement yet despite being FIREd. We live on my mil pension, VA disability and are spending down some inheritance. Don't intend on touching our investments for several years yet. When we get closer, I'll move toward a 80% equity 20% bond allocation.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2022, 04:19:13 PM »
Overt 90% all-stock index funds, so I put 100% VTI as my answer as it’s the closest.

Pretty similar. 401ks are in a target date, but large taxable is all equities, and we add more to taxable than 401ks each year.

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2022, 04:33:07 PM »
None of the above.

About 8% Bonds, 92% equities (broad mutual funds, with some large and small cap, and some limited international).  Sounds aggressive but because my spouse will have an inflation-adjusted pension, we consider that to serve basically the same function as the bond portion of a portfolio.  (I'd have even less in bonds but DH isn't quite there, so this keeps him comfortable.)

We are about to sell our rental property and will likely increase the bond allocation when invest that money, because we will be on a shorter timeline for that chunk of money. 

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2022, 01:31:50 PM »
I believe Jeremy Grantham was correct to identify a bubble, but got the timing wrong (not early 2021, when Fed was still printing money).  At some point I expect the Fed to fight inflation by forcing a sustained yield curve inversion... and that is a reliable signal of recession in the 2 years after it begins.

Maybe I'm wrong: recession is mild, China exits lockdown, peace in Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  I'm fine giving up 2022 stock returns to find out - to get the chance to market time a crash.  This is not meant to convince anyone to flip to active investing, but it helps explain the unique allocation of my portfolio:

63% cash, including short term treasuries
20% stock ETFs with a value tilt; only 1/3rd US
14% hedge funds (mostly venture capital)
03% bearish derivatives (SPY puts; ^VIX calls)

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2022, 08:25:28 AM »
I believe Jeremy Grantham was correct to identify a bubble, but got the timing wrong (not early 2021, when Fed was still printing money).  At some point I expect the Fed to fight inflation by forcing a sustained yield curve inversion... and that is a reliable signal of recession in the 2 years after it begins.

Maybe I'm wrong: recession is mild, China exits lockdown, peace in Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  I'm fine giving up 2022 stock returns to find out - to get the chance to market time a crash.  This is not meant to convince anyone to flip to active investing, but it helps explain the unique allocation of my portfolio:

63% cash, including short term treasuries
20% stock ETFs with a value tilt; only 1/3rd US
14% hedge funds (mostly venture capital)
03% bearish derivatives (SPY puts; ^VIX calls)

Just curious.  Do you have a trigger, timeline, or other set of conditions for when you will reenter the market with most of that cash?  if this crash that you hope to market time hasn't happened in a year, or two years, or... at what point do you call it and go back to whatever a normal AA for you might be?

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2022, 08:53:35 AM »
My IPS says 80/20 with stocks at 80 US / 20 ex-US and 5/25 rebalancing bands. All of that is Total Stock Market, Total International Stock Market, and Total Bond Market.

Why? Because when I started investing at age 38, it seemed like a good one for my goals. Now I'm 47 and still like it. The Covid flash-crash and this bear market have shown that it's adequate for my risk tolerance. Planning on ramping it down to 60/40, starting 5 years out from retirement.

I also have a 5% fun money account that has grown to ~11%, but since I've already gotten my cost basis back (and then some), I'm letting it run.
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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2022, 11:21:43 AM »
Over 90% all-stock index funds, so I put 100% VTI as my answer as it’s the closest.

I guess I never really answered why.  Basically I’m still more than 10 years from FI, might be more like 15+ years.  I save 40-50% of my income, but it’s a pretty modest income for a fairly HCOL area and my housing cost will at least triple after I leave my job, even if I moved to a LCOL area (I get to rent for pennies on the dollar through my employer).  So yeah, longer horizon = almost all my money goes into the stock market.  I will reassess when Im a few years from FI

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Re: What is your Asset Allocation and why
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2022, 01:47:22 PM »
I believe Jeremy Grantham was correct to identify a bubble, but got the timing wrong (not early 2021, when Fed was still printing money).  At some point I expect the Fed to fight inflation by forcing a sustained yield curve inversion... and that is a reliable signal of recession in the 2 years after it begins.

Maybe I'm wrong: recession is mild, China exits lockdown, peace in Russia's invasion of Ukraine.  I'm fine giving up 2022 stock returns to find out - to get the chance to market time a crash.  This is not meant to convince anyone to flip to active investing, but it helps explain the unique allocation of my portfolio:

63% cash, including short term treasuries
20% stock ETFs with a value tilt; only 1/3rd US
14% hedge funds (mostly venture capital)
03% bearish derivatives (SPY puts; ^VIX calls)
Just curious.  Do you have a trigger, timeline, or other set of conditions for when you will reenter the market with most of that cash?  if this crash that you hope to market time hasn't happened in a year, or two years, or... at what point do you call it and go back to whatever a normal AA for you might be?
In a crash I would buy in stages starting at -25%, and if deep enough I would push 100% equities.  If the market goes up and down without hitting -20%, my only action is to watch for a calm period with a low ^VIX and add to my bearish calls & puts.  The weakness in my theory is the unprecedented $19 trillion worth of combined Congress & Fed stimulus that could keep stocks going for an unknown length of time.

The Fed meets monthly from May to July, and are widely expected to raise the overnight Fed funds rate by 0.50%, which should immediately show up in 3 month treasuries.  I want to see if the yield curve inverts, and then if the Fed will still apply a 0.50% rate hike to an inverted yield curve.  If the yield curve inverts and stays that way, that's a reliable signal of recession within 2 years, and I plan to wait for it.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/fomccalendars.htm

Back in Feb 2020 I predicted a small market drop days in advance, which I believed impossible before that moment.  I've been an active investor with individual stocks since then.  The returns were unbelievable, but the effort has been tiring.  With 1/3rd of my portfolio passive and the active allocation in cash, I can just wait 1.5 years without needing to make decisions.  It's a much more relaxing portfolio, yet still has the potential for market beating returns if the crash I'm expecting actually occurs.

 

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