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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9350 on: June 14, 2022, 07:45:50 PM »
Wouldn't peak bear mean the bottom was in?


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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9351 on: June 15, 2022, 07:24:38 AM »
If I understand you right, you're calling the top of the bottom?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9352 on: June 15, 2022, 08:48:16 AM »
If I understand you right, you're calling the top of the bottom?

I thought he was calling the bottom of the top.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9353 on: June 15, 2022, 08:56:55 AM »

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9354 on: June 15, 2022, 09:07:24 AM »
If I understand you right, you're calling the top of the bottom?

I thought he was calling the bottom of the top.
When you get to the bottom you go back to the top. And then you start agsin.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9355 on: June 15, 2022, 11:35:22 AM »


"And I can't tell the bottom from the top
Am I standing on my head or on my heels?
Is it cloudy, is it bright?
Is it day or is it night?
Am I wrong or am I right?
And is it real?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isn3GsBNlSc

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9356 on: June 15, 2022, 11:51:09 AM »
"From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture's there
The memory won't escape me
But why should I care?"

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9357 on: June 15, 2022, 01:34:12 PM »
75 basis point increase to the fed funds rate and the stock market goes up by 2.5% and the bond market (or at least BND) goes up by 1%.... makes sense.

Making sense top is in?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9358 on: June 15, 2022, 02:51:08 PM »
75 basis point increase to the fed funds rate and the stock market goes up by 2.5% and the bond market (or at least BND) goes up by 1%.... makes sense.

Making sense top is in?
That particular top has been in since roughly 5000 BC.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9359 on: June 15, 2022, 02:53:54 PM »
75 basis point increase to the fed funds rate and the stock market goes up by 2.5% and the bond market (or at least BND) goes up by 1%.... makes sense.

Making sense top is in?

If the market could be predicted that easily, I'd be much, much richer.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9360 on: June 15, 2022, 03:18:07 PM »
I think the leading theory is that there is a little more certainty now. As in, "Whew! The Fed has our back."

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9361 on: June 15, 2022, 03:36:22 PM »
75 basis point increase to the fed funds rate and the stock market goes up by 2.5% and the bond market (or at least BND) goes up by 1%.... makes sense.

Making sense top is in?
More likely, PPI fell as reported a couple of days ago, for the 2nd month in a row. PPI usually predicts CPI a couple months in advance. The market is thinking the PPI top is in.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9362 on: June 15, 2022, 04:12:30 PM »
75 basis point increase to the fed funds rate and the stock market goes up by 2.5% and the bond market (or at least BND) goes up by 1%.... makes sense.

Making sense top is in?
More likely, PPI fell as reported a couple of days ago, for the 2nd month in a row. PPI usually predicts CPI a couple months in advance. The market is thinking the PPI top is in.
Interestingly, the bitcoin price bumped up a smidge just following the fed announcement (to the hour). Not sure if this is just noise, or that crypto isn't actually decoupled from regulated currencies. Still not sure that crypto has found it's bottom though. As of today, the top is still in!

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« Reply #9363 on: June 15, 2022, 09:16:24 PM »
75 basis point increase to the fed funds rate and the stock market goes up by 2.5% and the bond market (or at least BND) goes up by 1%.... makes sense.

Making sense top is in?

I mean the market dumped like 4% recently right?  Maybe a 1% increase was being priced in?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9364 on: June 16, 2022, 06:52:35 AM »
75 basis point increase to the fed funds rate and the stock market goes up by 2.5% and the bond market (or at least BND) goes up by 1%.... makes sense.

Making sense top is in?

I mean the market dumped like 4% recently right?  Maybe a 1% increase was being priced in?

Calm down everybody, the market is headed back down again this morning.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9365 on: June 16, 2022, 08:17:43 AM »
Well I have not bought any VTSAX yet.. Today might be the day to dip the toe!

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« Reply #9366 on: June 16, 2022, 08:19:51 AM »
Everybody's favorite CNBC punching bag, Jim Kramer, actually predicted this response to a 75 bp hike.  He said it would be a relief.

But careful observers will note first the market dropped significantly, then had a one day relief rally, and now fell back down.  The market knows the top is in.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9367 on: June 16, 2022, 09:03:09 AM »
Stonks on sale!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9368 on: June 16, 2022, 09:13:13 AM »
My 401k makes VTSAX purchases on the 1st and 15th of every month.  I notice the market seems to rally these 2 days and then drop back down.  I've noticed it even during giant dips like now. What's up with that?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9369 on: June 16, 2022, 09:17:54 AM »
Stonks on sale!
Silly rabbit. Stonks are always on sale.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9370 on: June 16, 2022, 09:43:41 AM »
Stonks on sale!
Silly rabbit. Stonks are always on sale.

Not true. The NYSE was closed for 11 days in 1933 and six days in 2001. Meanwhile the Russian stock markets were closed for 75 years.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9371 on: June 16, 2022, 09:44:19 AM »
Stonks on sale!
Silly rabbit. Stonks are always on sale.

Not true. The NYSE was closed for 11 days in 1933 and six days in 2001. Meanwhile the Russian stock markets were closed for 75 years.

#themoreyouknow

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9372 on: June 16, 2022, 11:45:35 AM »
75 basis point increase to the fed funds rate and the stock market goes up by 2.5% and the bond market (or at least BND) goes up by 1%.... makes sense.

Making sense top is in?

I mean the market dumped like 4% recently right?  Maybe a 1% increase was being priced in?

Calm down everybody, the market is headed back down again this morning.

Phew, that's better. Another big drop at least makes sense...  :)
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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9373 on: June 16, 2022, 12:00:58 PM »
Stonks on sale!
Silly rabbit. Stonks are always on sale.

Not true. The NYSE was closed for 11 days in 1933 and six days in 2001. Meanwhile the Russian stock markets were closed for 75 years.
I'd bet a wooden nickel that someone, somewhere was still selling stonks.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9374 on: June 16, 2022, 01:55:49 PM »
My 401k makes VTSAX purchases on the 1st and 15th of every month.  I notice the market seems to rally these 2 days and then drop back down.  I've noticed it even during giant dips like now. What's up with that?

Too many people doing the same thing, try changing you purchasing dates to the 3nd and the 17th. 

P.S. The top is in!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9375 on: June 16, 2022, 04:59:19 PM »
All fun and games until the GOAT MOAT is in.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9376 on: June 16, 2022, 05:56:17 PM »
All fun and games until the GOAT MOAT is in.

I thought we already had the GOAT MOAT?  Is this GOAT MOAT 2.0, new and improved!  Better, faster and Toppier?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9377 on: June 16, 2022, 06:12:23 PM »
All fun and games until the GOAT MOAT is in.

I thought we already had the GOAT MOAT?  Is this GOAT MOAT 2.0, new and improved!  Better, faster and Toppier?

When top is in, how can something, even GOAT MOAT, be Toppier?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9378 on: June 16, 2022, 06:21:53 PM »
All fun and games until the GOAT MOAT is in.

I thought we already had the GOAT MOAT?  Is this GOAT MOAT 2.0, new and improved!  Better, faster and Toppier?

When top is in, how can something, even GOAT MOAT, be Toppier?

The first GOAT MOAT was a classic. This sequel is just a money grab. It doesn’t have the style of the original.

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« Reply #9379 on: June 16, 2022, 07:21:55 PM »
All fun and games until the GOAT MOAT is in.

I thought we already had the GOAT MOAT?  Is this GOAT MOAT 2.0, new and improved!  Better, faster and Toppier?

When top is in, how can something, even GOAT MOAT, be Toppier?

The first GOAT MOAT was a classic. This sequel is just a money grab. It doesn’t have the style of the original.

Just wait until they come out with the GOAT MOAT Prequels.  Hard to believe they can pull off the CGI de-aging of The Top convincingly

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9380 on: June 16, 2022, 07:43:49 PM »
I must cash out on this ride to the top.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9381 on: June 17, 2022, 11:10:52 AM »
I must cash out on this ride to the top.

I must cash in on this ride to the bottom.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9382 on: June 17, 2022, 07:54:31 PM »
All fun and games until the GOAT MOAT is in.

What's a Goat Moat? Pray tell?


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« Reply #9383 on: June 17, 2022, 07:57:35 PM »
All fun and games until the GOAT MOAT is in.

What's a Goat Moat? Pray tell?

Some would say that it's a moat full of goats

But true devotees will tell you that it's the Greatest of all Time Mother of all Tops

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9384 on: June 22, 2022, 08:15:34 AM »
Pretty sure we'll have to flee the planet before it gets eaten by a giant mutant star goat.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9385 on: June 22, 2022, 08:43:08 AM »
Pretty sure we'll have to flee the planet before it gets eaten by a giant mutant star goat.
Just don't take away our telephone sanitizers.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9386 on: June 22, 2022, 09:04:11 AM »
It would be pretty disappointing to be on the cusp of saving the world from over-consumption and climate change as people adopt our values, only for a particularly dirty telephone to result in several billion deaths.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9387 on: June 22, 2022, 01:29:39 PM »
(reads too quickly)

It would be pretty disappointing to be on the cusp of saving the world from over-consumption and climate change as people adopt our values, only for a particularly dirty telephone to result in several billion deaths.

Population top is in too??

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9388 on: June 22, 2022, 01:42:43 PM »
Pretty sure we'll have to flee the planet before it gets eaten by a giant mutant star goat.


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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9389 on: June 22, 2022, 02:19:14 PM »
Pretty sure we'll have to flee the planet before it gets eaten by a giant mutant star goat.



You have top artistic skills.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9390 on: June 23, 2022, 06:23:55 AM »
(reads too quickly)

It would be pretty disappointing to be on the cusp of saving the world from over-consumption and climate change as people adopt our values, only for a particularly dirty telephone to result in several billion deaths.

Population top is in too??

Even without the giant mutant star goat or the dearth of telephone sanitizers we are near the population top.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9391 on: June 23, 2022, 07:23:07 AM »
(reads too quickly)

It would be pretty disappointing to be on the cusp of saving the world from over-consumption and climate change as people adopt our values, only for a particularly dirty telephone to result in several billion deaths.

Population top is in too??

Even without the giant mutant star goat or the dearth of telephone sanitizers we are near the population top.

The most humane way to solve our population problem would be to remove all the warning labels from things, and let natural selection solve the issue for us.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9392 on: June 23, 2022, 09:22:44 AM »
Pretty sure we'll have to flee the planet before it gets eaten by a giant mutant star goat.



You have top artistic skills.

There’s a star goat waiting in the sky
He’d like to come and eat us
But he thinks he’d blow our mind

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9393 on: June 23, 2022, 09:47:08 AM »
(reads too quickly)

It would be pretty disappointing to be on the cusp of saving the world from over-consumption and climate change as people adopt our values, only for a particularly dirty telephone to result in several billion deaths.
Population top is in too??

Even without the giant mutant star goat or the dearth of telephone sanitizers we are near the population top.
The most humane way to solve our population problem would be to remove all the warning labels from things, and let natural selection solve the issue for us.
I think overprotective parents would spoil most of that effect, aka "bulldozer parents" that don't even allow their children to make mistakes.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9394 on: June 24, 2022, 07:36:23 AM »
I was sharing with my son and daughter that a co-worker I know has five(!) kids, and they thought that lifestyle was unimaginably bizarre.

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« Reply #9395 on: June 25, 2022, 11:29:27 AM »
(reads too quickly)

It would be pretty disappointing to be on the cusp of saving the world from over-consumption and climate change as people adopt our values, only for a particularly dirty telephone to result in several billion deaths.
Population top is in too??

Even without the giant mutant star goat or the dearth of telephone sanitizers we are near the population top.
The most humane way to solve our population problem would be to remove all the warning labels from things, and let natural selection solve the issue for us.
I think overprotective parents would spoil most of that effect, aka "bulldozer parents" that don't even allow their children to make mistakes.
in the short term, sure, but once the parents are no longer around to protect their kids, Darwin kicks in again

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« Reply #9396 on: June 28, 2022, 12:06:37 AM »
(reads too quickly)

It would be pretty disappointing to be on the cusp of saving the world from over-consumption and climate change as people adopt our values, only for a particularly dirty telephone to result in several billion deaths.
Population top is in too??

Even without the giant mutant star goat or the dearth of telephone sanitizers we are near the population top.
The most humane way to solve our population problem would be to remove all the warning labels from things, and let natural selection solve the issue for us.
I think overprotective parents would spoil most of that effect, aka "bulldozer parents" that don't even allow their children to make mistakes.
in the short term, sure, but once the parents are no longer around to protect their kids, Darwin kicks in again

Doesn’t breeding for overprotective parental traits lead to fitter children?

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« Reply #9397 on: June 28, 2022, 05:26:46 AM »
(reads too quickly)

It would be pretty disappointing to be on the cusp of saving the world from over-consumption and climate change as people adopt our values, only for a particularly dirty telephone to result in several billion deaths.
Population top is in too??

Even without the giant mutant star goat or the dearth of telephone sanitizers we are near the population top.
The most humane way to solve our population problem would be to remove all the warning labels from things, and let natural selection solve the issue for us.
I think overprotective parents would spoil most of that effect, aka "bulldozer parents" that don't even allow their children to make mistakes.
in the short term, sure, but once the parents are no longer around to protect their kids, Darwin kicks in again

Doesn’t breeding for overprotective parental traits lead to fitter children?

Darwin top is in, there is no place to go but down from here.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9398 on: June 30, 2022, 09:19:06 AM »
Darwin top is in, there is no place to go but down from here.



The top is in!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #9399 on: June 30, 2022, 10:20:16 AM »
Keep buying. Lower highs top is in?