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These are my 401k options - should I make any changes?
« on: August 27, 2015, 08:38:18 AM »
I currently have 100% of my 401k money in the Vanguard LifeStrategy Growth Fund (80% stocks/20% bonds). I've been happy with it, but looking at the other options offered by my plan, I wonder if I could be doing better?

I'm thinking of leaving my existing money where it is, but putting future contributions in the S&P 500 index (which was just added a few years ago as an option). But I'm open to any suggestions.  I'm very much a KISS investor (Keep It Simple, Stupid) so I don't want to necessarily have my contributions divided among 5 different funds and then needing to go and rebalance every 3 months (or whatever). But if having it divided between 2 or 3 funds and adjusting every 12-18 months makes more sense than where it's currently parked, I'm open to it. I also don't mind a bit of risk, I don't need this money for another 20 years (this current downturn doesn't have me phased at all, I was thinking of making this change for the last few months now).

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 Advantus Money Market   
 
General Bond
 Vanguard Interm-Term Bond Index I 
 
US Stock
 Advantus S&P 500 Index 
 T. Rowe Price Large Cap Growth 
 Loomis Sayles Value Admin 
 DFA US Small Cap I 
 
International Stock
 Vanguard Total Intl Stock Index I 
 
Sector Stock
 Van Eck Global Hard Assets A 
 Ivy Real Estate Securities Y 
 
Balanced
 Vanguard LifeStrategy Cnsrv Gr Inv 
 Vanguard LifeStrategy Growth Inv (this is where my money is parked right now)
 Vanguard LifeStrategy Moderate Gr Inv

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Re: These are my 401k options - should I make any changes?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2015, 08:49:54 AM »
I think you are fine where you are.  My only thoughts are little international might not hurt (great debate here as most large US companies derive a solid portion of their revenue from foreign sources), and I'm curious as to what the expense ratio on the Advantus S&P 500 index is, but I doubt it is better than Vanguard.

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Re: These are my 401k options - should I make any changes?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 08:54:26 AM »
I currently have 100% of my 401k money in the Vanguard LifeStrategy Growth Fund (80% stocks/20% bonds). I've been happy with it, but looking at the other options offered by my plan, I wonder if I could be doing better?

I'm thinking of leaving my existing money where it is, but putting future contributions in the S&P 500 index (which was just added a few years ago as an option). But I'm open to any suggestions.  I'm very much a KISS investor (Keep It Simple, Stupid) so I don't want to necessarily have my contributions divided among 5 different funds and then needing to go and rebalance every 3 months (or whatever). But if having it divided between 2 or 3 funds and adjusting every 12-18 months makes more sense than where it's currently parked, I'm open to it. I also don't mind a bit of risk, I don't need this money for another 20 years (this current downturn doesn't have me phased at all, I was thinking of making this change for the last few months now).

Money Market
 Advantus Money Market   
 
General Bond
 Vanguard Interm-Term Bond Index I 
 
US Stock
 Advantus S&P 500 Index 
 T. Rowe Price Large Cap Growth 
 Loomis Sayles Value Admin 
 DFA US Small Cap I 
 
International Stock
 Vanguard Total Intl Stock Index I 
 
Sector Stock
 Van Eck Global Hard Assets A 
 Ivy Real Estate Securities Y 
 
Balanced
 Vanguard LifeStrategy Cnsrv Gr Inv 
 Vanguard LifeStrategy Growth Inv (this is where my money is parked right now)
 Vanguard LifeStrategy Moderate Gr Inv
Personally, if the expense ratio on the S&P 500 fund is less than .25, I'd put 100% into it, then when you are closer to retirement, start switching to the vanguard lifestrategy growth inv.

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Re: These are my 401k options - should I make any changes?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2015, 09:07:40 AM »
Vanguard Growth (where I'm at) is 0.26% expense, the S&P 500 fund is 0.16.%

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Re: These are my 401k options - should I make any changes?
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 09:29:56 AM »
Vanguard Growth (where I'm at) is 0.26% expense, the S&P 500 fund is 0.16.%
If this is true i'd go 100% to S&P 500, but if I'm not mistaken the VASGX (Vanguard LifeStrategy Growth Fund) is only .17%, maybe you have the 2 mixed up?

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Re: These are my 401k options - should I make any changes?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2015, 11:04:08 AM »
Vanguard Growth (where I'm at) is 0.26% expense, the S&P 500 fund is 0.16.%
If this is true i'd go 100% to S&P 500, but if I'm not mistaken the VASGX (Vanguard LifeStrategy Growth Fund) is only .17%, maybe you have the 2 mixed up?

No, the info sheet for my 401k has .26 under the "total expense" column, and .17 for the S&P fund. So keep current funds where they are at and put 100% of new contributions in the S&P fund?

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Re: These are my 401k options - should I make any changes?
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2015, 11:11:05 AM »
Vanguard Growth (where I'm at) is 0.26% expense, the S&P 500 fund is 0.16.%
If this is true i'd go 100% to S&P 500, but if I'm not mistaken the VASGX (Vanguard LifeStrategy Growth Fund) is only .17%, maybe you have the 2 mixed up?

No, the info sheet for my 401k has .26 under the "total expense" column, and .17 for the S&P fund. So keep current funds where they are at and put 100% of new contributions in the S&P fund?
Personally, I would move your current balance and future contributions all to the S&P Fund until you are closer to retirement age, however both funds are great and it's hard to go wrong with either one(assuming that S&P 500 fund is only .16% expense ratio).

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Re: These are my 401k options - should I make any changes?
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2015, 11:14:33 AM »
The LifeStrategy Growth fund is not a bad one at all. It already has a good split between stocks and bonds, and it has a pretty high percentage of international assets within each category as well. You didn't post the expense ratios of your other funds, but my guess is that by switching to some other set of funds you would be able to shave no more than 0.1% off of your weighted average expense ratio (likely less), and would need to monitor your different asset classes to make sure they stay in balance.