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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #100 on: May 27, 2025, 10:31:44 AM »
I have only really been investing for three years and about six months as a mustache. Trying to time the market seems impossible. I started in the down year of 2022 followed by two crazy back to back years in 2023 and 2024. All you can do is control what you can control and not freak out.

2022 wasn't a down year.  I started investing in 2007.  Now, 2008 . . . that was a down year.  :P

I once was on a flight with an aerospace engineering student.  There was some severe weather we were going around, and it was a bit bumpy.

DW complained about the severe turbulence, and he turned to her and, smiling, said: "This is just light turbulence.  It isn't moderate turbulence yet, because there are no free-floating objects."

2022 was light turbulence, unless you were heavy into SPAC's, bitcoin, and tech.

2008 was moderate turbulence.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #101 on: May 27, 2025, 11:56:54 AM »
I moved 40% of my money into bonds at the bottom like a dunce and now Im regretting it. Luckily I kept the majority in stocks but I'll remember this lesson for the rest of my life. I got caught up in the news and the doom when I should have known no one had any extra information they were operting on.

I'm going to buy back in and keep it there this time, while also going on a diet of news around markets. The news is not reflective of any special information and I was better off living my day to day and sticking to the plan.

Sorry you got caught in the bumps, why did you feel the need to sell? You need to think on that because otherwise, buying back in now is a recipe for disaster if you don't know what caused this. Especially if you are a long way off from fire.

You sell at a bottom, buy back after a big jump, and then markets tank 15% again next month. Will you keep up the same patterns?

Market could also go up 15%, we just don't know. You need to invest like you understand that we just don't know.

You need an investment strategy you can stick with.

Read up here:
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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #102 on: May 27, 2025, 03:55:33 PM »
I moved 40% of my money into bonds at the bottom like a dunce and now Im regretting it. Luckily I kept the majority in stocks but I'll remember this lesson for the rest of my life. I got caught up in the news and the doom when I should have known no one had any extra information they were operting on.

I'm going to buy back in and keep it there this time, while also going on a diet of news around markets. The news is not reflective of any special information and I was better off living my day to day and sticking to the plan.

Sorry you got caught in the bumps, why did you feel the need to sell? You need to think on that because otherwise, buying back in now is a recipe for disaster if you don't know what caused this. Especially if you are a long way off from fire.

You sell at a bottom, buy back after a big jump, and then markets tank 15% again next month. Will you keep up the same patterns?

Market could also go up 15%, we just don't know. You need to invest like you understand that we just don't know.

You need an investment strategy you can stick with.

Read up here:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/IPS

I got caught up in the fear of tarriffs and reading to much analysis online. It was the feeling that anything could go wrong and the market would never recover. My issue was the news and forums I was reading were so confident in their analysis in saying the US is done, the hegemony is voer, blah blah. Little did I know, they had no extra info.

Then Trump caved. It's all a dog and pony show. I just have not read any news since and I'm much better for it because even if there are problems, people are going to figure out ways to make money.

and my money is back in equities, where I wanted it. I think I also have a friend who I listen to that is just a more conservative investor than I am and hes still in bonds. I was losing sleep over being out of the market, even with the volatility, so now that I'm back I'm sleeping like a baby.

I also realized, since I have a fairly low cost of living, I didn't need that money yet anyway. I should stop letting the news and emotions of other investors scare me and stick to a plan that I want, which is lower my cost of living and take some equities on.
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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #103 on: May 28, 2025, 11:09:27 PM »
The market will somehow go positive tomorrow based on futures and then pump until July and then some new trade policy will go into effect and we will be right back where we started.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #104 on: May 29, 2025, 07:14:06 AM »
The market will somehow go positive tomorrow based on futures and then pump until July and then some new trade policy will go into effect and we will be right back where we started.
It might not be a trade policy. Yesterday's court ruling suggests the whole tariff war might be over, because a 49 year old trade deficit does not constitute an emergency. So the whole net effect of the Trump administration might be tax cuts and a rising debt - about like the Bush administration, or Trump 1.0.

Instead, it might be:
  • Outright repression of political opponents
  • Bond vigilantes revolt and drive up rates
  • Continued dollar weakness
There are two scenarios where the tariffs stay an issue: Trump just ignores the courts and the whole thing draws out for 3.5 years. Or, the Republican-owned Supreme Court rules in Trump's favor.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #105 on: May 29, 2025, 08:24:48 AM »
The market will somehow go positive tomorrow based on futures and then pump until July and then some new trade policy will go into effect and we will be right back where we started.
It might not be a trade policy. Yesterday's court ruling suggests the whole tariff war might be over, because a 49 year old trade deficit does not constitute an emergency. So the whole net effect of the Trump administration might be tax cuts and a rising debt - about like the Bush administration, or Trump 1.0.

Instead, it might be:
  • Outright repression of political opponents
  • Bond vigilantes revolt and drive up rates
  • Continued dollar weakness
There are two scenarios where the tariffs stay an issue: Trump just ignores the courts and the whole thing draws out for 3.5 years. Or, the Republican-owned Supreme Court rules in Trump's favor.

Trump still has 2 rules under which to make tariffs, and he has.  Section 232 auto, steel, and aluminum tariffs, for example, remain.  And he used section 301 in his first term.

This way was faster, but it doesn't mean he can't hit 'em where it hurts.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #106 on: May 29, 2025, 09:43:55 AM »
We have been in a trade deficit almost double my lifetime. This is nothing new. The way we have evolved to a free trade neoliberal system is why we are in this exact situation. The U.S.'s real export now is debt, especially when we got off the gold standard.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #107 on: May 29, 2025, 11:10:02 AM »
I moved 40% of my money into bonds at the bottom like a dunce and now Im regretting it. Luckily I kept the majority in stocks but I'll remember this lesson for the rest of my life. I got caught up in the news and the doom when I should have known no one had any extra information they were operting on.

I'm going to buy back in and keep it there this time, while also going on a diet of news around markets. The news is not reflective of any special information and I was better off living my day to day and sticking to the plan.

Sorry you got caught in the bumps, why did you feel the need to sell? You need to think on that because otherwise, buying back in now is a recipe for disaster if you don't know what caused this. Especially if you are a long way off from fire.

You sell at a bottom, buy back after a big jump, and then markets tank 15% again next month. Will you keep up the same patterns?

Market could also go up 15%, we just don't know. You need to invest like you understand that we just don't know.

You need an investment strategy you can stick with.

Read up here:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/IPS

I got caught up in the fear of tarriffs and reading to much analysis online. It was the feeling that anything could go wrong and the market would never recover. My issue was the news and forums I was reading were so confident in their analysis in saying the US is done, the hegemony is voer, blah blah. Little did I know, they had no extra info.

Then Trump caved. It's all a dog and pony show. I just have not read any news since and I'm much better for it because even if there are problems, people are going to figure out ways to make money.

and my money is back in equities, where I wanted it. I think I also have a friend who I listen to that is just a more conservative investor than I am and hes still in bonds. I was losing sleep over being out of the market, even with the volatility, so now that I'm back I'm sleeping like a baby.

I also realized, since I have a fairly low cost of living, I didn't need that money yet anyway. I should stop letting the news and emotions of other investors scare me and stick to a plan that I want, which is lower my cost of living and take some equities on.
@wantstoinvest , my condolences on your rough learning experience.  All of us had to, at least partially, learn the hard way.
Besides mistymoney's great advice on having an IPS, you should look at RWD's list of all the times people were SURE that the market/US/world was DOOOOOOMed.
Confidence in doomsaying is a vital necessity.  Doomers are SURE, non-doomers are not as certain.
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/investor-alley/the-mother-of-all-dead-cat-bounces/msg3361112/#msg3361112.  --- earlier in this very thread. 

Also instructive is a on old blog post on "Bob, the world's worst market timer". https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2014/02/worlds-worst-market-timer/

Fortunately for me, there was so much "friction" in moving money around when I started, that I really didn't have much choice but to ride out: 
Early 2001 or so (down 30%)
2008-2009  My 401K was worth less than all the money I put into it. --- My response was "too late now, just ride it out" and kept putting money in stocks.
My IPS said put 50% of available cash in stocks when the SP500 was down 20%, how could it go wrong :-)   Minus 30% later, I was still dribbling money into stocks.
I'm proud of the fact that with my last few dollars of cash in March 2009 I bought 1 share of BRK.B, mostly for the shareholder meeting credentials, which I still have.  BRK.B up 500% since.
2020 - Remember the Covid dip? --- it was a major, apocalyptic, crash at the time.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #108 on: May 29, 2025, 11:15:07 AM »
@wantstoinvest , my condolences on your rough learning experience.  All of us had to, at least partially, learn the hard way.
Besides mistymoney's great advice on having an IPS, you should look at RWD's list of all the times people were SURE that the market/US/world was DOOOOOOMed.
Confidence in doomsaying is a vital necessity.  Doomers are SURE, non-doomers are not as certain.
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/investor-alley/the-mother-of-all-dead-cat-bounces/msg3361112/#msg3361112.  --- earlier in this very thread. 

Also instructive is a on old blog post on "Bob, the world's worst market timer". https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2014/02/worlds-worst-market-timer/

Fortunately for me, there was so much "friction" in moving money around when I started, that I really didn't have much choice but to ride out: 
Early 2001 or so (down 30%)
2008-2009  My 401K was worth less than all the money I put into it. --- My response was "too late now, just ride it out" and kept putting money in stocks.
My IPS said put 50% of available cash in stocks when the SP500 was down 20%, how could it go wrong :-)   Minus 30% later, I was still dribbling money into stocks.
I'm proud of the fact that with my last few dollars of cash in March 2009 I bought 1 share of BRK.B, mostly for the shareholder meeting credentials, which I still have.  BRK.B up 500% since.
2020 - Remember the Covid dip? --- it was a major, apocalyptic, crash at the time.



Thanks for the kind words everyone!!! I have learned my lesson for sure, I held my money through COVID no sweat but I got nervous this time cause I thought if the US government is essentially stopping free trade, the system is doomed. I should have known that there was some bluffing involved and I should have also just ignored it. Like all the posts you have mentioned about major events showed, none of them mattered.

Maybe it is also because I had some more skin in the game (post tax brokerage that almost did not exist during COVID) that I also felt different, but I learned my lesson. Overall, I took a 100k hit! But I'll have to live with and remember that I need to stick to my AA. I felt terrible being out. I live pretty cheap and have nothing else I want to do with my money (real estate, gold, other assets) so I should have just stayed true. But now I know. The whole point of index funds to is essentially to set it and forget it, but I was reading news and checking numbers like a day trader. Waste of time and money!!!

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #109 on: May 29, 2025, 11:16:37 AM »
Is there a thread fof those of us who haven't looked at our investment balances since 2024 or so?

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #110 on: May 29, 2025, 12:27:14 PM »
Is there a thread fof those of us who haven't looked at our investment balances since 2024 or so?

There was a White Coat Investor blog post many years ago about a study of physician investors and those who had the best results were the ones who lost their password to their account.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #111 on: May 29, 2025, 12:41:56 PM »
Is there a thread fof those of us who haven't looked at our investment balances since 2024 or so?

There was a White Coat Investor blog post many years ago about a study of physician investors and those who had the best results were the ones who lost their password to their account.

Love this.

But I do remember reading a news story about a guy who did not check his brokerage account for about a decade (I think) and it was turned in to the state as abandoned property. He had a bunch of Apple or Amazon stock that went up astronomically in that time period. Point is, I believe you do need to log in to your accounts occasionally (maybe once a year?) or this could happen. I'm too lazy to look up the details right now, and it probably depends on who you have your money with, but it's good to keep in mind.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #112 on: May 29, 2025, 01:19:43 PM »
Is there a thread fof those of us who haven't looked at our investment balances since 2024 or so?
What would there be to talk about?

"I wonder how much money I have?"

People would just offer the solution.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #113 on: May 29, 2025, 05:22:30 PM »
Is there a thread fof those of us who haven't looked at our investment balances since 2024 or so?

There was a White Coat Investor blog post many years ago about a study of physician investors and those who had the best results were the ones who lost their password to their account.

thats hilarious and informative!

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #114 on: May 29, 2025, 05:29:39 PM »
Is there a thread fof those of us who haven't looked at our investment balances since 2024 or so?
What would there be to talk about?

"I wonder how much money I have?"

People would just offer the solution.
There's a 79 pages of a thread devoted to not paying off your mortgage. I imagine there would be plenty to discuss. For example, people could gloat about how well their investments are doing compared to people spending hours a day trying to predict the future.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #115 on: May 29, 2025, 08:33:19 PM »
Is there a thread fof those of us who haven't looked at our investment balances since 2024 or so?
What would there be to talk about?

"I wonder how much money I have?"

People would just offer the solution.
There's a 79 pages of a thread devoted to not paying off your mortgage. I imagine there would be plenty to discuss. For example, people could gloat about how well their investments are doing compared to people spending hours a day trying to predict the future.
Oh, I've already gloated there plenty of times

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #116 on: May 30, 2025, 10:08:44 AM »
Is there a thread fof those of us who haven't looked at our investment balances since 2024 or so?
What would there be to talk about?

"I wonder how much money I have?"

People would just offer the solution.
There's a 79 pages of a thread devoted to not paying off your mortgage. I imagine there would be plenty to discuss. For example, people could gloat about how well their investments are doing compared to people spending hours a day trying to predict the future.

but you'd have to check to know, right?

Then you are checking.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #117 on: June 25, 2025, 07:27:01 AM »
If this is a "Dead Cat Bounce" there may be a dead cat on the moon soon.



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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #118 on: June 25, 2025, 11:14:36 AM »
It ain't over yet.  In fact, it's hardly begun.  Maybe we will know, by the time of the 2026 midterm elections.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #119 on: June 25, 2025, 09:50:56 PM »
Market hit a new all-time high. If this a dead cat bounce, it will be the craziest one I have seen since I started investing.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #120 on: June 26, 2025, 08:18:09 AM »
It ain't over yet.  In fact, it's hardly begun.  Maybe we will know, by the time of the 2026 midterm elections.
That's the nice thing about predicting recessions - either you're right, or you will be.

Market hit a new all-time high. If this a dead cat bounce, it will be the craziest one I have seen since I started investing.
Not to pick nits, but the S&P500 and the total market indices have not hit a new high since February. They are very close, though.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #121 on: June 26, 2025, 10:38:17 PM »
you are right, but point being flirting with all time highs and then going back down would be a pretty wild bounce

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #122 on: June 27, 2025, 07:45:56 AM »
It ain't over yet.  In fact, it's hardly begun.  Maybe we will know, by the time of the 2026 midterm elections.
That's the nice thing about predicting recessions - either you're right, or you will be.

Market hit a new all-time high. If this a dead cat bounce, it will be the craziest one I have seen since I started investing.
Not to pick nits, but the S&P500 and the total market indices have not hit a new high since February. They are very close, though.
S&P500 is currently 6,160.24 new milestone.  If this is a dead cat bounce


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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #123 on: June 27, 2025, 07:54:52 AM »
It ain't over yet.  In fact, it's hardly begun.  Maybe we will know, by the time of the 2026 midterm elections.
That's the nice thing about predicting recessions - either you're right, or you will be.

Market hit a new all-time high. If this a dead cat bounce, it will be the craziest one I have seen since I started investing.
Not to pick nits, but the S&P500 and the total market indices have not hit a new high since February. They are very close, though.
S&P500 is currently 6,160.24 new milestone.  If this is a dead cat bounce


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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #124 on: June 27, 2025, 09:57:15 AM »
I am not saying this is a dead cat bounce.  I am saying you cannot be certain it isn't.  Not for some time, as we see what happens over the next six months, at least.  That would always be true, but is particularly true with significant federal government actions in play.

The S&P 500 set a new record close of 1,565.15 on Oct. 9, 2007, topping the dot com bubble high, and following a peak of 1,553.32 on July 13.  That was a gain from a low of 1,407.12 on Aug 15 of that year, a drop of 11% in one month.


Of course, this was the last gasp before what became the global financial crisis of 2008.  But we only know that, once the next chapter unfolded.


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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #125 on: June 27, 2025, 12:09:38 PM »
NASDAQ intraday record today too.   
« Last Edit: June 27, 2025, 12:12:05 PM by aboatguy »

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #126 on: June 27, 2025, 02:54:57 PM »
The cat must have eaten a bunch of bouncy balls before falling....

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #127 on: June 27, 2025, 04:07:10 PM »
The cat must have eaten a bunch of bouncy balls before falling....
Fell to  NASDAQ and S&P500 closing records...

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #128 on: June 27, 2025, 07:17:47 PM »
I hope this thread runs forever like the top is in thread.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #129 on: June 30, 2025, 05:32:18 PM »

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #130 on: June 30, 2025, 07:26:51 PM »
none of it makes sense anymore and I am tired of trying to make it make sense

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #131 on: June 30, 2025, 09:09:57 PM »
none of it makes sense anymore and I am tired of trying to make it make sense
Don't even try. Don't waste any brain power trying to think about it. Spend your efforts on your career, your earnings, and training your intestinal fortitude to behave like a good investor (read: ignore your investments).

This subforum is terrible for encouraging good investing behavior. In fact, some of the most prolific posters here are terrible investors.

Autoinvest into the index. Read JL Collins. Go live your life. Climb some mountains. Read JL Collins again. Build and enjoy your career. Look for a life partner. In ten years report back.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #132 on: June 30, 2025, 09:27:44 PM »
I know you are right. I have read JL Collins and Millionaire Next Door. All of my investments are direct payroll deductions or monthly recurring buy orders. I automated all of it.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #133 on: June 30, 2025, 09:39:20 PM »
This subforum is terrible for encouraging good investing behavior. In fact, some of the most prolific posters here are terrible investors.

That's because those of us who just invest in the indices and then forget about it don't have anything new to say, haha.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #134 on: July 02, 2025, 09:20:15 AM »

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #135 on: July 03, 2025, 07:58:39 PM »
Yet again, this dead cat just bounced to new
NASDAQ and S&P500 intradaday and closing records


6,279.35. S&P 500
20,601.10 NASDAQ


On Monday the market goes up, down or sideways.....
« Last Edit: July 03, 2025, 08:04:15 PM by aboatguy »

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #136 on: July 04, 2025, 05:22:16 PM »
Dead, not dead. Dead, not dead.

Seems more like Schrodinger's cat to me. (lol)

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #137 on: July 05, 2025, 03:02:04 PM »
The tariff pause comes to an end early this month. Who knows how the market will react. This whole Trump era has really made me go from being a U.S. only investor to having a 60/40 split of US / EX-US. I will probably just simplify at some point and go all VT.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #138 on: July 05, 2025, 07:08:36 PM »


I've had a couple nights like this after too much chili.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #139 on: July 07, 2025, 11:02:34 PM »
me after eating way too much taco bell

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #140 on: July 08, 2025, 07:46:01 AM »
me after eating way too much taco bell
Is there any amount less than "too much"?

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #141 on: July 09, 2025, 08:35:31 AM »
me after eating way too much taco bell
Is there any amount less than "too much"?


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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #142 on: July 12, 2025, 10:49:46 AM »
me after eating way too much taco bell
Is there any amount less than "too much"?
Yes, not eating it at all.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #143 on: July 12, 2025, 11:04:23 AM »
me after eating way too much taco bell
Is there any amount less than "too much"?
Yes, not eating it at all.

All this taco bell talk makes me want to get a mexican pizza, crunchwrap supreme, a gordita and maybe some nachoes bell grande.

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #144 on: July 12, 2025, 11:33:36 AM »
me after eating way too much taco bell
Is there any amount less than "too much"?
Yes, not eating it at all.

All this taco bell talk makes me want to get a mexican pizza, crunchwrap supreme, a gordita and maybe some nachoes bell grande.

Meximelt forever!!!

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #145 on: July 12, 2025, 03:00:59 PM »
I actually like Taco Bell. I will probably go there like once every other week for some fast food that has enough sodium to make a pool taste like the ocean. I have always liked it and will never stop

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #146 on: July 14, 2025, 06:14:22 PM »
New NASDAQ closing record......



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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #147 on: Today at 09:10:23 AM »

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #148 on: Today at 09:34:17 AM »
Is that cat trying to catch Starman?

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Re: The mother of all dead cat bounces?
« Reply #149 on: Today at 12:17:40 PM »
Is that cat trying to catch Starman?

I believe the cat is trying to catch the market.

New all time highs for the S&P 5006,294.75 and the NASDAQ 20,903.70


I guess one invester's all time high can be another's dead cat bounce.