Author Topic: The idiosyncrasies of Mega Back Door  (Read 841 times)

toniteisthenight

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The idiosyncrasies of Mega Back Door
« on: January 25, 2018, 03:02:26 PM »
Hi all!

I'm hoping you guys can help guide me along your path...

I am a full time employee and also have a side business trying to hustle a buck. I have a Roth IRA, a rollover IRA from old employer's 401k, a 401k under my current employer, and a solo401k of which I am the named employer, participant, trustee, and administer. I followed TheFinanceBuff's lead here: https://thefinancebuff.com/executing-mega-backdoor-roth-in-solo-401k.html

My question is about ProRata. My solo401k has pre-tax money in it already. If I contribute after tax (with the intent of backdoor), am I able to rollover only the after tax portion? How do you guys manage to do the mega back door w/o touching the pretax money? Maybe I need ANOTHER solo401k that is empty most of the year, only to serve as a temporary parking post for backdoor?

Thanks!

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Re: The idiosyncrasies of Mega Back Door
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2018, 04:12:50 PM »
I think pro-rata concerns depend on how the actual 401(k) plan document is written. If the plan is structured so that after-tax contributions go into a legally separate sub-account from the pre-tax contributions, that's ideal for the mega backdoor Roth. Don't ask me what verbiage to add to your 401(k) plan document to make sure this is the case; I have no idea.

However even if your plan does put all the money in the same pot, it seems like you could rely on IRS Notice 2014-54 to remove all the money from the 401(k), putting pre-tax balances in a traditional IRA and post-tax balances in a Roth IRA.

toniteisthenight

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Re: The idiosyncrasies of Mega Back Door
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2018, 04:26:49 PM »
Thanks for the great link - I look forward to reviewing that tonight.

Funny, I'm in Seattle too!