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RPBPF (Raspberry Pi) how not to buy
« on: December 09, 2024, 01:24:10 PM »
Since I am a stock-picking genius (sometimes) I decided to buy some Raspberry Pi stock.  Mistakes were made.  Maybe we can describe a better way to buy it for some other brave gambler.  (I am here to learn.)

Raspberry Pi went public about 5 months ago.  I would rather they had stayed "pure" but whatever, I guess I'll try to make money on it. Same with how they focused on commercial customers during pandemic shortages...would rather they hadn't but I'll admit it is probably better business.  And my final bit of analysis is that a lot of people beat on Raspberry Pi for being kind of expensive on performance/$ basis but I still think they have a good product and ecosystem and innovation pipeline.  Seeing the RP2040 chip pop up in many other products is something that makes me go hmmmmmmmm in a good way.

OK, so this stock is traded on the London stock exchange.  Seeing a price of ~400 GBX threw me for a loop as I thought the price was in the $3.50-5.00 range.  It turns out this is British pounds pence (pennies).  OK cool, now how to buy it?

I use Fidelity.  There is nothing found there for RPI.L.  More Googling turns up RPBPF.  It seems shady.  The 6-month chart of RPI.L and RPBPF do bear a resemblance but definitely differ more than I would expect.  More Googling.  I find* the below Reddit thread which increases my confidence (no one screaming that it is a scam).  It also raises some interesting information about lock ups and insider shares.  Whatever, let's buy this RPBPF then.

https://old.reddit.com/r/pennystocks/comments/1h6xord/raspberry_pi_stock_in_the_us_otc_rpbpf/  *Technically I found this today, but it fits the story nicely to say that I found it back then (around Thanksgiving) when I was doing this.  But the thread is only 4 days old!  There were other things I was finding then but I'm not going to dig around in my history to find what they were.

RPBPF does show up in Fidelity.  Next -> Next -> Next and bam "Fidelity does not accept market orders for illiquid securities.  Please change your market order to a limit order."

OK...I guess I need to do a limit order.  I am familiar with the basic concept of a limit--don't want to buy for more than say $3 so place a limit buy order for $3 and when the price drops to $3 it will buy it.  But what about if the price is rising?  IDK, so I did a limit order for $4.30 which was the most recent price.  This sat for over one (US) business day with no action.  I think there was a long stretch of days over Thanksgiving where trading wasn't open in London.  Or something.

Mentality is changing now.  I want to buy this at whatever market price, so...a limit higher than the current price?  Some research made it seem likely that I could set a high limit and only end up paying the market price.  Fidelity: "For example, if your limit is $100.00 per share and the market fills your order, it's possible you could buy shares at a price lower than $100.00.

So at this point I am somewhat sure that I won't give someone a big juicy sale price.  I tried at (from what I recall) $6.00, well over the latest price I was seeing of $4.30.  It said that was too high.  So I tried again at $5.25 and that was accepted.  Now to wait.

I checked a couple days later and I had shares.  The fun part is that it shows an average cost of $5.28 per share.  What the heck!?  Well, I was planning to hold for a long time anyways which will ease the pain.

I will accept any mocking and face-punches.  Please accompany it with a pointer or other bit of productive discussion.

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Re: RPBPF (Raspberry Pi) how not to buy
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2024, 12:44:42 AM »
Most brokerages are similar, but IBKR has two advantages: better connectivity to international markets (like LSE), and better margin rates.  So an Interactive Broker's account might help in your international stock picking.

That said, London's market opens in their local time, not on US time.  Looks like London is about 7 hours ahead of New York, which means if you try to buy stocks around noon in the U.S., the London markets are already closed.  That might be why you had to place a limit order - you were making an order outside market hours.

When I search Google, I get "RPI.L" for the stock ticker.  Since its June IPO, it has gone up +3.1%.

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Re: RPBPF (Raspberry Pi) how not to buy
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2024, 09:38:11 AM »
Well RPBPF is $6 at the moment, so your pain is over!

However I'm following this with interest. My main brokerage also does not recognize RPI.L and this is the sort of reason why I set up an Interactive Brokers account for fun money or an emergency fund a couple of years ago. The awkwardness of the I.B. interface turned me off of further experimentation, but long-term I'd like to be able to access their cheap margin and invest anywhere in the world. Probably should try their trading app.

I.e. just as my broker's limitations are herding me into American-exchange stocks, other people's brokers are likewise herding them into a limited set of exchanges. This could contribute to a price differential. But if we want international exposure it's just too easy to invest in country-specific ETFs on American exchanges rather than trying to do currency conversions and learning a new set of rules in an awkward interface.

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Re: RPBPF (Raspberry Pi) how not to buy
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2024, 10:14:31 AM »
I love rising prices!

What I find strange is how the RPBPF price is only updated daily, at least on the few publicly available charts I have looked at (Yahoo, etc.).  What is the explanation for that?